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reggikko
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Glass Ceiling Hack?
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Is it possible to do a hack that would allow the player to set, per individual Sim, the highest career level possible for that Sim? In other words, if I have a Sim in the Science career and I only want him to get as far as science teacher and then, despite skills and friends, not be promoted further, is such a thing doable? I know Pescado has harder jobs, but I'd like more control on a per-Sim basis. Once I know if it's possible, then I can see if there is a hacker (awesome or otherwise
) who might be willing to make such a thing.
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J. M. Pescado
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 23, 15:00:27 »
...possibly. I'd have to merge it with harder jobs to deny promotion, though.
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 23, 15:15:40 »
ooohhh...that would be very shiney!!!
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 23, 15:32:42 »
Yeah... harder jobs really doesn't seem all that hard. Especially with the advantages of Uni. Heck, the advantages of being born or growing up from toddler is plenty sufficient. Pes has already shown how easy it is to max skills like by the Teen years. And making friends is pretty easy. There really needs to be like a harderharderjobs hack!
On the one hand, it's kinda fun to see how fast you can get your sim to the top, and like how many consecutive promotions you can manage to get. On the other hand... I think some sims should
really
have to work for it. Some sims shouldn't even make it to the top of their career unless they're almost well into the later stages of adulthood, if not already in their twilight years as an elder. For some sims, I'd like it to be an actual struggle whether or not they get promoted. Those career LTWs are just too easy.
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Kaliban
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 23, 15:51:00 »
As I already said a looooong time ago in a similar thread: what I'd like to have is a mod where the higher you are in your job, the lowest the chance to get promoted - even if you meet all requirements.
Having an adequate diploma could give some bonus (depending on the diploma level?), and having highers skill thant required, and more friend, would help too - but the chance would still stay low.
Add an "old timer effect" (the chance to promote grows slightly each day you are not promoted), and I would be happy.
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Zazazu
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 23, 18:38:06 »
...and if you have poor personality qualities, specifically being mean or lazy.
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jolrei
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 23, 18:50:26 »
I haven't really been bothered that much yet by my Sims getting to the top of their career. I actually like fulfilling the career LTWs (no more worries about their aspiration meter), but I can see how I might want to limit things a bit. I hate knowledge teens, always bloody skilling away and wasting time they could be snogging the paperboy or trying to go steady with the shop clerk, or sneaking out with someone they only met a few hours ago (all the things I never did when I was a teen because I was too busy "skilling").
I have taken to not letting the blighters study if they have more than 4 in any skill area or when they get to a career, they simply rocket through the promotions. I do like the idea of stopping people at "Freelance Photographer" rather than advancing in the slacker stream. I've never understood why a photographer would want to become a Professional Party Guest, especially with those dumb hours.
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Hook
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 23, 19:01:38 »
Quote from: Zazazu on 2007 May 23, 18:38:06
...and if you have poor personality qualities, specifically being mean or lazy.
Lazy is never good, but being mean should get you faster promotions, especially in some jobs. This should appeal to Pescado.
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 23, 21:12:22 »
I use harder jobs, I make my sims get jobs from the paper to start at a lower level, I give them random diplomas from the Uni sims upgrader - I don't play Uni, terminally boring - my sims still keep getting promotions every second or third day. I'd go for a harder harder jobs hack.
I like the personality influence on jobs idea.
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Zeljka
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 23, 22:13:52 »
In my experience, mean and lazy people have little difficulty getting promoted,
and in the Sims, lazy just means more apt to skill (read, play chess etc...)
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Sagana
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 23, 22:14:15 »
I might like harder harder jobs also, but I'd really like the option from the original post to decide where you want a sim to stop on an individual basis. Here's a sim that's 'ok you're a science teacher' or hey, he's a sculpter and I don't want them to go on and be something else - that's their 'career'.
I do love harder jobs (tho I forget I'm even using that) and really really like the 'there can be only one' to certain careers. Would even like some limits to some of the others as well, maybe not one but just a few in any area. How many mad scientists does a place really need?
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Horanda
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 23, 23:51:24 »
There is room for more mad scientists, I'm more concerned about the types of jobs where there really IS only one (like Mayor), or a small, finite number (like Chief of Staff).
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Hecubus
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 24, 00:39:14 »
Perhaps, rather than having the promotion foisted upon you, you get to choose whether to accept it? That way, your happy-being-a-DJ slacker sim can stay a DJ.
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Tamha
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 24, 01:10:07 »
Now that I like! "Promotions Optional" is a decent way to go, but then I'd worry about people who want to put off promotion (rather than preventing it forever) wanting to use the option so it needs to come up every couple of Sim days, and those who want to stop progress completely. It would make it more difficult to try accommodating both.
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ScoobyDoo
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 24, 01:40:56 »
To bad you can't do a pay increase while staying at the same job level. That way you can stay as a DJ but get better pay. I suppose you could turn them into seperate careers.
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Sagana
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 24, 03:01:17 »
Quote
There is room for more mad scientists, I'm more concerned about the types of jobs where there really IS only one (like Mayor), or a small, finite number (like Chief of Staff).
Harder jobs already does that. Or one of Pes's hacks limits to only one mayor, and only one crimefighter superhero, but I might have forgotten which one. I have all of his hacks like these.
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 24, 04:34:08 »
I've wanted a hack that would allow me to lock a sim into a certain career level for a
very long time.
I've had to resort to taking away skill points/not allowing skilling.
whenever I asked about a hack like this I was always told "just don't let them get the right skill points" or "take away their skill points" so I gave up asking
I just want my poor lower class sims to
stay
poor lower class sims!
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reggikko
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 24, 04:55:47 »
Quote from: Hecubus on 2007 May 24, 00:39:14
Perhaps, rather than having the promotion foisted upon you, you get to choose whether to accept it? That way, your happy-being-a-DJ slacker sim can stay a DJ.
If this option is easier to hack, I'm all for it!
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PandaGirl
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 24, 06:07:59 »
I've had a few sims that I want to stay at certain levels, so the idea(s) in this thread sound good to me. I just hope it's possible...
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notveryawesome
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 24, 06:32:14 »
I too would like a hack for this, since so many random things can cause your sims to gain skills and make friends, whether you want them to or not.
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julialenn
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 24, 13:41:45 »
Quote from: Tamha on 2007 May 24, 01:10:07
Now that I like! "Promotions Optional" is a decent way to go, but then I'd worry about people who want to put off promotion (rather than preventing it forever) wanting to use the option so it needs to come up every couple of Sim days, and those who want to stop progress completely. It would make it more difficult to try accommodating both.
Would it be possible to make it necessary to 'apply' for a promotion?
As in, make a Sim call/use computer to call his boss and ask for a promotion? That way we wouldn't be pestered by daily "Do you want a promotion" boxes.
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Hecubus
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 24, 14:24:29 »
Oh, THAT is nice.
Use all the same 'qualitifications' for promotions, but also add a random bit to it? So...the boss might be in a good mood and says yes, or he might be a royal prick and say no.
Heh...of course, now I want a Suck up/Brown nose/Kiss ass option on that phone call...
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cassblonde
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 25, 02:02:52 »
This sounds wonderful! Now to get some Awesome One to do it ...
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AuKestrel
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 25, 18:06:40 »
Quote from: Hook on 2007 May 23, 19:01:38
Quote from: Zazazu on 2007 May 23, 18:38:06
...and if you have poor personality qualities, specifically being mean or lazy.
Lazy is never good, but being mean should get you faster promotions, especially in some jobs. This should appeal to Pescado.
Too bad there isn't a way to display "Narcissistic Personality Disorder." That ought to rocket people to the top of certain career paths, esp. the higher leves of the Education one. *koffkoff*
However, being lazy ought to actually give one an advantage in the Gamer career... since innovations are often created by lazy people so they have less work to do. It seems to be a natural fit.
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Re: Glass Ceiling Hack?
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2007 May 25, 20:16:39 »
Quote from: AuKestrel on 2007 May 25, 18:06:40
Too bad there isn't a way to display "Narcissistic Personality Disorder." That ought to rocket people to the top of certain career paths, esp. the higher leves of the Education one. *koffkoff*
I'm missing an allusion here, please elucidate...
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