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Venusy
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #25 on:
2007 May 09, 22:54:10 »
Pescado's stuff is normally compatible with everything post-OFB, so yes, there should be a Pets version available.
FAKE EDIT:
Yep
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #26 on:
2007 May 09, 23:24:13 »
Quote from: syberspunk on 2007 May 09, 04:26:57
Mind if I ask, I took a peek into the list of BHAVs and I was just wondering, which BHAV is the one that checks for saved from death?
It isn't
CT - Test - Death of Sim
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Saved from Death is complex. I believe the check tree for THAT is simply "At Least Teen". A complex procedure involving looking at GUID arguments is then installed in that to determine whether or not the BHAV is being called for THAT want, one of several others in need of sanity-checking, or a more generic and benign one, and then running special checks for the special cases.
Quote from: syberspunk on 2007 May 09, 04:26:57
Also... just wondering if the electronic related BHAVs are pretty much the same as those in nogizmowants?
Yes. This hack merges nogizmowants. Having the two wouldn't hurt, since they're the same, but the old one is now deprecated in favor of merging everything, along with noresurrectwant.
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MissDoh
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #27 on:
2007 May 10, 04:22:42 »
Quote from: atomica on 2007 May 09, 22:46:35
Hi! I'm new here and from what I've seen so far, you are indeed much more awesome than me.
But I only have university, nightlife, and pets. I assume this hack will not work for my game.
Is there an available version that does not require seasons?
(I'm really sorry if the answer is obvious. I was blinded by your awesomeness and couldn't check the rest of the forum before I posted.)
Taken from the main post, it should answer your question
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Wants & Fears Sanity
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dorquemada
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #28 on:
2007 May 10, 06:59:02 »
Quote from: Chienne on 2007 May 08, 16:58:00
I've been using this, and now my Knowledge sim has five slots of buy-stuff wants. Her house is fully furnished, so it's not the "buy a toilet, buy a shower, buy a refrigerator" set of wants you get when you move a sim into an empty house. And she's maxed on skill points, so while she can't wish for those, she could still wish to play chess or stargaze or play with the dog or kiss her girlfriend, and she doesn't. Usually only my (rare) Fortune sims have the want to buy things that cost at least X amount, but now my Knowledge sims do, too. I guess if you take away their desire to kill themselves, then they want expensive consumer goods. Weird!
Heh. My knowledge Sim, all skills maxed, platinum forever, now constantly wants to do naughty things to his wife. Who wants to max her skills and nothing else.
I wonder what else affect those wishes - e.g. why some fortune Sims are obsessed with painting masterpieces and others only want buy stuff.
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J. M. Pescado
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #29 on:
2007 May 10, 07:41:15 »
If you REALLY wanna know what makes sim brains tick, dump out the want tree tunings. It's not as complex as you think it is.
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Karen
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #30 on:
2007 May 13, 10:31:01 »
Can you add to the list of wants squashed by this hack: No want to play Marco Polo unless a swimming pool is present. For what it's worth, this was on a Uni lot, but I don't have any pools anywhere in my Uni hood so he's stuck with it until he graduates
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Aeval
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #31 on:
2007 May 14, 00:57:41 »
Using Paladin's hack conflict program, I am showing conflicts with the following TwoJeffs hacks.
No Personal Electronics Want Spam.package X3 (one for each gizmo)
No Resurrect Want Spam.package
Havechildnotadopt.package
I assume that the first two have been made redundant and I will delete them. The third one is really handy for same sex couples and I'm going to try it out Besides general weirdness, is there any specific error that I should be looking for?
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #32 on:
2007 May 15, 00:16:31 »
Does this stompinate stupid wants like 'Buy a fountain costing at least §3000' when the most expensive fountain in the catalogue costs §2500 (or whatever it costs)? It is an unfulfillable want that should not be there in the first place. Stupid EA.
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Hook
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #33 on:
2007 May 15, 01:48:34 »
I thought the "buy a fountain over 600" wants had been removed by Maxis.
Hook
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #34 on:
2007 May 15, 02:08:35 »
Apparently not, since I have a fortune sim who constantly wants to buy a §3000 fountain that does not exist.
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pioupiou
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #35 on:
2007 May 15, 06:42:20 »
Quote from: Hook on 2007 May 15, 01:48:34
I thought the "buy a fountain over 600" wants had been removed by Maxis.
Hook
no it is still there. I can't remember if it works now, as it used to be unfullfillable.... I have a fountain that cost 6000§ in my game (the big round one from university) and I seem to remember that the want is "buy a fountain that costs at least 6000"
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #36 on:
2007 May 15, 06:58:29 »
That sucker is impossible to use on any lot in my game. The lag it causes just kills gameplay; I've given up on even the little fountains as well. It's a pity, as some of them are very pretty.
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Magicmoon
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #37 on:
2007 May 15, 08:37:35 »
I installed this, removed redundant hacks, then fired up the game.
I load in a lot and notice that the teenage boy has a want to go out with
Vicky.
While I am still looking over everyone's wants, the phone rings and Vicky asks him to go out on a date. While that won't fulfill the 'go out' want I decide to let him go.
He meets her downtown and rolls up the normal date wants. They then go inside the restaurant. But every time I fulfill one of his date wants, the want slot is replaced with 'do something romantic, such as flirt, kiss, whatever, with
Andrea.
Finally, all of his want slots are filled with wants about Andrea.
I check. Andrea is on the comm lot. OK. So she is accessible. Then I check his attraction score. He has 2 bolts for Vicky, his date, but only one bolt for Andrea. Plus he barely even knows Andrea. STR was less than 30, I think.
So what caused this?
Sadorandomness
He really is more attracted to Andrea and the # of bolts is incorrect
Like most men, a bird in the bush is more attractive than 2 in the hand
This is normal, expected behavior from Sims
My game is borked and I need to search for the source of the problem
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Tamha
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #38 on:
2007 May 15, 09:12:37 »
I tend to get those kind of reactions from Romance sims pretty often myself, but the sim they want to "cheat" on their date with isn't always around. It can get really annoying, and I find that usually the only thing that really fixes it is going to a different lot. Of course, I don't usually remember to put lot debuggers on my community lots, so I don't know if that would help either.
Sometimes I have it happen with other Aspirations, but usually they are either more attracted to the other person or have a pretty decent relationship with them already (at least friends).
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J. M. Pescado
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #39 on:
2007 May 15, 09:40:58 »
Quote from: magicmoon on 2007 May 15, 08:37:35
Sadorandomness
He really is more attracted to Andrea and the # of bolts is incorrect
Like most men, a bird in the bush is more attractive than 2 in the hand
This is normal, expected behavior from Sims
My game is borked and I need to search for the source of the problem
Points 1 and 4 are the usual explanations of this behavior. I suppose I can look into a sanity clamp on that, although I've honestly never seen this behavior for a completely random person.
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Magicmoon
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #40 on:
2007 May 15, 20:29:44 »
I've never seen it on a completely random person either. By that I mean that the 2nd person that they want to flirt with is usually someone that they already know, but may, or may not, have a high relationship with. However, it does happen quite often and like Tamha, the wants to flirt with the 2nd Sim often comes up when the 2nd Sim isn't even available. But since using ACR and various other MATY fixes the 2nd Sim is usually on the lot now before those wants start showing up.
If the Sim is actually
more
attracted to the 2nd Sim, then it makes sense that they would
want
to have those interactions with them, even if acting on those desires would have unfavorable outcomes. But I would really like the Sim to be more attracted to another before they roll up wants to ruin perfectly good relationships. Plus the Sim wasn't able to have a great date because all of his want slots were filled, which again makes sense
only
if more attracted to the 2nd Sim.
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Llial
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #41 on:
2007 May 16, 13:44:28 »
After using Paladins hack conflict scanner it came up with this:
*** POSSIBLE CONFLICT DETECTED ***
File Type: BHAV
Procedure Name: CT - Test - Play Handheld
Group ID: 0x7F739728
Instance ID: 0x000011AE
Packages Containing This Procedure:
\downloads\_A_ Pescado_nogizmowants.package
\downloads\_T_Pescado_wfsanity.package
*** POSSIBLE CONFLICT DETECTED ***
File Type: BHAV
Procedure Name: CT - Test - Buy Cell
Group ID: 0x7F739728
Instance ID: 0x000011B4
Packages Containing This Procedure:
\downloads\_A_ Pescado_nogizmowants.package
\downloads\_T_Pescado_wfsanity.package
*** POSSIBLE CONFLICT DETECTED ***
File Type: BHAV
Procedure Name: CT - Test - Buy Handheld
Group ID: 0x7F739728
Instance ID: 0x000011B5
Packages Containing This Procedure:
\downloads\_A_ Pescado_nogizmowants.package
\downloads\_T_Pescado_wfsanity.package
*** POSSIBLE CONFLICT DETECTED ***
File Type: BHAV
Procedure Name: CT - Test - Buy MP3
Group ID: 0x7F739728
Instance ID: 0x000011B6
Packages Containing This Procedure:
\downloads\_A_ Pescado_nogizmowants.package
\downloads\_T_Pescado_wfsanity.package
*** POSSIBLE CONFLICT DETECTED ***
File Type: BHAV
Procedure Name: CT - Test - Resurrect
Group ID: 0x7F739728
Instance ID: 0x000011DC
Packages Containing This Procedure:
\downloads\_A_ Pescado_noresurrectwant.package
\downloads\_T_Pescado_wfsanity.package
*** POSSIBLE CONFLICT DETECTED ***
File Type: BHAV
Procedure Name: CT - Generic Test - Pet Is Eligible?
Group ID: 0x7F739728
Instance ID: 0x00001274
Packages Containing This Procedure:
\downloads\_T_Pescado_wfsanity.package
\downloads\_T_twoJeffs_No Pet Obsession.package
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jrd
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #42 on:
2007 May 16, 13:48:02 »
Unless specifically instructed otherwise, assume any Pescado hack with a conflict with this can be replaced by it.
As for the twojeffs one - pick and choose. The one that loads last (alphabetical sort) "wins".
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Zazazu
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #43 on:
2007 May 16, 16:34:31 »
Quote from: karen on 2007 May 13, 10:31:01
Can you add to the list of wants squashed by this hack: No want to play Marco Polo unless a swimming pool is present. For what it's worth, this was on a Uni lot, but I don't have any pools anywhere in my Uni hood so he's stuck with it until he graduates
Huge pools are a staple in my dorms. I love seeing simmies run around screaming in their swimsuits during a fire:
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notveryawesome
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #44 on:
2007 May 16, 16:37:22 »
Quote from: pioupiou on 2007 May 15, 06:42:20
Quote from: Hook on 2007 May 15, 01:48:34
I thought the "buy a fountain over 600" wants had been removed by Maxis.
Hook
no it is still there. I can't remember if it works now, as it used to be unfullfillable.... I have a fountain that cost 6000§ in my game (the big round one from university) and I seem to remember that the want is "buy a fountain that costs at least 6000"
Ah yes, I forgot about that behemoth thing. I think my brain just blocks it out when I'm scrolling through the catalogue, because it's of absolutely no use.
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J. M. Pescado
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #45 on:
2007 May 16, 23:02:10 »
Buy it, stuff it into the inventory, delete it. Free ASP.
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #46 on:
2007 May 17, 15:30:34 »
Quote from: notveryawesome on 2007 May 16, 16:37:22
Quote from: pioupiou on 2007 May 15, 06:42:20
Quote from: Hook on 2007 May 15, 01:48:34
I thought the "buy a fountain over 600" wants had been removed by Maxis.
Hook
no it is still there. I can't remember if it works now, as it used to be unfullfillable.... I have a fountain that cost 6000§ in my game (the big round one from university) and I seem to remember that the want is "buy a fountain that costs at least 6000"
Ah yes, I forgot about that behemoth thing. I think my brain just blocks it out when I'm scrolling through the catalogue, because it's of absolutely no use.
I love that fountain. My dorms tend to be palatial, and generally feature at least one. Sometimes inside in the foyer. Prettttty...
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gethane
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #47 on:
2007 May 18, 03:00:08 »
I am having trouble with with fountains in general. All of a sudden my people in my homes stopped doing anything autonomous. I turned testing cheats on, and the log showed that there was a problem with the fountains (different fountains on different lots) and then when I deleted them, everything went back to normal. On one lot it was the fountain and a destroyed cat nip mouse that was throwing erros.
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Strangel
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #48 on:
2007 May 24, 19:30:20 »
Quote from: gethane on 2007 May 18, 03:00:08
I am having trouble with with fountains in general. All of a sudden my people in my homes stopped doing anything autonomous. I turned testing cheats on, and the log showed that there was a problem with the fountains (different fountains on different lots) and then when I deleted them, everything went back to normal. On one lot it was the fountain and a destroyed cat nip mouse that was throwing erros.
I seem to be having that same problem. Oddly enough, one of the houses it's REALLY hitting.. has no fountain..
BUT! They DO have a cat.. -ponders-
Now when you say the fountain threw the errors, did you mean it said "error: fountain", or did it pull "error: sim" and you traced it BACK to the fountain?
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gethane
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Re: Wants & Fears Sanity "Death To All Nesses" Public Beta Edition
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Reply #49 on:
2007 May 24, 20:16:28 »
Quote
did it pull "error: sim" and you traced it BACK to the fountain
this one. i attached one file for example.
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