Guess what happens when you deleteAllCharacters in downtown?

[witch]

I thought I'd like a downtown with no Maxis downtownies, so, just like in Uni, I went to the downtown n'hood and typed the fateful command. I exited the game and went smugly to count character files. One it said, just the one backup character file.

So if you use deleteAllCharacters in downtown Nightlife, it will delete all characters in downtown, all characters in the main n'hood and all characters in the Uni n'hood too.

Back for the 3rd NL re-install in as many days...
Lucky I have backups.

[RainbowTigress]

Very smart to have backups, especially with such a dangerous command as deleteallcharacters.

[Twain]

hmmmm so deleteallcharacters.....deleted all the characters....how strange 

seriously tho, I am sorry to hear about your 'loss'

I learned with the Sims 1 that it is always good to keep backups of your game, it has saved me many nervous breakdowns, lol.

[witch]

Sorry, I probably wasn't clear enough. Before Nightlife, if you went to the uni n'hood & deleted all charcters, it only deleted uni ones. If you deleted all characters in the main n'hood, it only deleted characters there, none in uni. This NL thing of dealing to all 3 places at once is new.

I thought others might appreciate the warning.

[Hook]

I do appreciate the warning.  I'd hate to have everyone deleted from all three neighborhoods.  Thanks for finding out for us and letting us know.

I was thinking about deleting the downtownies and generating all new ones with one of the Normal Name hacks.  Looks like this should wait for a totally new neighborhood.

Hook

[MokeyHokey]

This NL thing of dealing to all 3 places at once is new.

Are you sure?  I swear when I was running a custom hood with notownieregen and nodormieregen that deleteall did just that--in both regular and uni neighborhoods, which is why I would connect a university before using the cheat so that I had no dormies interfering with my custom sims.   

[Andygal]

Sorry, I probably wasn't clear enough. Before Nightlife, if you went to the uni n'hood & deleted all charcters, it only deleted uni ones. If you deleted all characters in the main n'hood, it only deleted characters there, none in uni. This NL thing of dealing to all 3 places at once is new.

Not in my game, I made a new neighbourhood before installing NL and because I wantd a different set of townies and NPCs then the default I deleted all the characters, after adding Academie Le Tour, and it emptied BOTH the main and the Uni neighbourhoods.

[dizzy]

I did a lot of testing on this in Uni, and the cheat *always* deletes all the characters whether you were at Uni or the normal neighborhood. It will even delete characters in the sim bin.

[Oddysey]

I did a lot of testing on this in Uni, and the cheat *always* deletes all the characters whether you were at Uni or the normal neighborhood. It will even delete characters in the sim bin.

This has been my experience as well. We should pester the Maxoids to add in a "current sub neighborhood only" version of "deleteallcharacters." It's the least they can do to help with the 0x85 mess.

[HRH Posie]

I agree with you also.  I created a new neighbourhood just before Nightlife was released and added Academie Le Tour.  I used "deleteAllCharacters" in the regular neighbourhood and it deleted all characters in the neighbourhood as well as the university campus and both sim bins

[witch]

Hmm, very interesting. I did 'deleteallchars' in the main n'hood, pre nightlife, then when I went to the uni n'hood all the Maxis defaults were still there, green diamonds above all the occupied lots, sims in the bin etc, so I had to do the command again.

Maybe my game had a one time glitch? I only deleted all characters once, so I don't have any other experiences to compare to. I had a custom n'hood at the time for the main one and the academie one for uni.

[witch]

I did a lot of testing on this in Uni, and the cheat *always* deletes all the characters whether you were at Uni or the normal neighborhood. It will even delete characters in the sim bin.

This has been my experience as well. We should pester the Maxoids to add in a "current sub neighborhood only" version of "deleteallcharacters." It's the least they can do to help with the 0x85 mess.

Excellent idea! Are you going to submit it or should I? Or both? Or lots? 

[Ruann]

That would be nice... if the game actually indicated which sims were in which part of the neighborhood in any meaningful way.  Sadly, it doesn't.  There are three "families" of Townies.  One is the NPC townie pool, which includes ALL service NPCs from all portions of a neighborhood, one is the townies and dormies, and the third is more townies that were added with Nightlife, but not all of them as some wind up in your normal townie family and NPC pool.  Mr Big and Ms Diva wind up in the new famiily, but the Grand Vampires wind up in the normal Townie family, for example.  Well, correction, that's where they've wound up in all of my games so far.

[AllenABQ]

A safe method of deleting characters has been proposed to Quaxi for a future edition of SimPE.  Nothing has been promised about if or when it might be included, but Quaxi is thinking about it.  If implemented it should, ideally, eliminate a character file along with all family info, relationships, memory markers, etc., etc., essentially making it as though the character never existed in the game.

[sanmonroe]

A safe method of deleting characters has been proposed to Quaxi for a future edition of SimPE.  Nothing has been promised about if or when it might be included, but Quaxi is thinking about it.  If implemented it should, ideally, eliminate a character file along with all family info, relationships, memory markers, etc., etc., essentially making it as though the character never existed in the game.

I am hoping his hint that we may see it in the NL edition will come true.

Anyway, go here and add your support. Offer him cash, hookers, and the head of any BBSer he wants.

http://ambertation.de/simpeforum/viewtopic.php?t=1731

[J. M. Pescado]

This has been my experience as well. We should pester the Maxoids to add in a "current sub neighborhood only" version of "deleteallcharacters." It's the least they can do to help with the 0x85 mess.

This is fundamentally unreasonable, since characters are not, strictly speaking, neighborhood-specific, they're all stored in the main neighborhood's file.

So unsurprisingly, DELETE ALL CHARARACTERS deletes.....ALL CHARACTERS. Whodathunkit? Now keep this up and you buffoons will wind up in Retardo Land.

[maxon]

Sorry, I probably wasn't clear enough. Before Nightlife, if you went to the uni n'hood & deleted all charcters, it only deleted uni ones. If you deleted all characters in the main n'hood, it only deleted characters there, none in uni. This NL thing of dealing to all 3 places at once is new.

I thought others might appreciate the warning.

umm - that's not my experience.  Using deleteAllCharacters did just that - everyone, everywhere.

[witch]

Sorry, I probably wasn't clear enough. Before Nightlife, if you went to the uni n'hood & deleted all charcters, it only deleted uni ones. If you deleted all characters in the main n'hood, it only deleted characters there, none in uni. This NL thing of dealing to all 3 places at once is new.

I thought others might appreciate the warning.

umm - that's not my experience.  Using deleteAllCharacters did just that - everyone, everywhere.

Yes, if you'd read the thread you would see many people say the same. Oddly enough that was not my experience the one time I used the delete all characters command. My main n'hood was quite empty, I had the message box to confirm deletion even.

Then when I went to the uni n'hood - which already existed - it was still full of Maxis young adults. I was surprised at the time because I would have thought the delete all characters command would do just that, delete all.

That's why I did not expect everything to vanish when I did the same command in Nightlife.