FFS "Batbox" Lot Debugger v2.0: NUCLEAR WAR EDITION

[jolrei]

Baaaa!  Will try that.

[rufio]

If there's a snapdragon right next to the bed, do they actually ever need to get out of it?   

[kazebird]

I am not sure, but I know if a sim is stuck in a bed with no way to get out, they cannot die of most deaths including fire. I don't even think they would even need snapdragons, because you can't go into any failure state on said bed (except maybe hygiene). It would be a miserable existence, but they would not die of starvation.

Just another way to torture any unwanted townies...

[rufio]

Actually, I think I heard about using that strategy to trap the nanny on the lot so could leave while there were children at home - lure the nanny into the bed and then surround it with walls, and the social worker never comes at that point, apparently not even if you starve your spawn.

[J. M. Pescado]

A nanny on the lot suppresses the SS from ever coming, yes. If you lock a nanny into a bed, the nanny can never leave since control is never returned to the nanny until it can leave the bed, so the SS will never come. The presence of enough mixed snapdragons will keep the nanny from ever desiring to even LEAVE the bed, as an "Evil" snapdragon will periodically deplete its energy while the "good" ones refill all the other motives lost to decay and the evil snapdragons, creating a permanent Sleeping Beauty nanny.

[witch]

That is diabolically clever.

*witch sweeps a bow

[jolrei]

If there's a snapdragon right next to the bed, do they actually ever need to get out of it?   

The point is not whether the bloody creatures NEED to actually leave the bed.  The point is my need to torture them in interesting ways, which requires that they occasionally be able to go to places where there is better potential for lulz.  The fact that I occasionally reward them by allowing them to sleep or woohoo is not to be construed as my personal desire to have the nitwits lying around in bed all day, especially when they lie there and complain about it.

[Darby]

A nanny on the lot suppresses the SS from ever coming, yes. If you lock a nanny into a bed, the nanny can never leave since control is never returned to the nanny until it can leave the bed, so the SS will never come. The presence of enough mixed snapdragons will keep the nanny from ever desiring to even LEAVE the bed, as an "Evil" snapdragon will periodically deplete its energy while the "good" ones refill all the other motives lost to decay and the evil snapdragons, creating a permanent Sleeping Beauty nanny.

That is quite the brilliant and chuckle-inducing idea!     What happens to the nanny's van, though?  Any borkage potential here? 

[J. M. Pescado]

There is no nanny van. Nanny vans only appear to pick up and drop off the nanny, they don't hang around while the Nanny is there.

[Darby]

Oh duh.  I use nannies so rarely, I forgot.   

[Count Four]

... The presence of enough mixed snapdragons will keep the nanny from ever desiring to even LEAVE the bed, as an "Evil" snapdragon will periodically deplete its energy while the "good" ones refill all the other motives lost to decay and the evil snapdragons, creating a permanent Sleeping Beauty nanny.

I really should come around here more often.

[LynnMar]

Hi,  yes Suinge said that you had a witch alignment in your new lot debugger but when I read it,  it did not say anything about the witch alignment.  I sure would like to have that.   thanks   

[J. M. Pescado]

It's there: Make Me.../Witch.../Good, etc. If your sim is already a witch, you can still access the function for alignment-shifting by shiftclicking.

[Exiled]

I'm sure I used the Pre-Uni Upgrade option on Peter Ottomas, but at some point, he reverted back to four wants, and I didn't get the PUU option on him again.  I used Twojeff's Sim Blender to readd the want locks manually, but is this a sign that the neighborhood is slowly becoming unplayable?

On an somewhat-related note, I didn't know about the corruption of Samantha's twins and let them be born.  Would killing them do the trick, or do I need to do Deleted 2 on them?

[J. M. Pescado]

I'm sure I used the Pre-Uni Upgrade option on Peter Ottomas, but at some point, he reverted back to four wants, and I didn't get the PUU option on him again.  I used Twojeff's Sim Blender to readd the want locks manually, but is this a sign that the neighborhood is slowly becoming unplayable?

If this happens, then you need to use "Fix Want Slots And Locks", which will correct issues of inconsistencies in want slots. Upgrade PreUni is only for assigning a sim's uni attributes.

[FrickinIdjit]

I know you're busy with the latest botchery but, if you don't mind, could you please add an option to Nuke those damned butterflies and fireflies?  I don't know how many times they've interfered while I was trying to build an addition.

[J. M. Pescado]

There's a Stuck Object Remover for that.

[cwykes]

When you use the randomiser, you get a message saying the batbox is fixing or deleting things as it exits to the 'hood screen.  What is it doing?  Is it fixing problem on the lot or in the 'hood?  What is happening when you run it several times in succession and get more fixes the second time than the first?  Recent experience on a lot had 5,23,8,26,18 fixes (numbers not all exact btw).

I also notice that "delete gossip from dead" is still an available option after I've done it once.  It isn't an option that is always there, so I'd have thought one click should eliminate the problem.  (no dead sims on the lot, so it's not new gossip)

[J. M. Pescado]

When you use the randomiser, you get a message saying the batbox is fixing or deleting things as it exits to the 'hood screen.  What is it doing?  Is it fixing problem on the lot or in the 'hood?  What is happening when you run it several times in succession and get more fixes the second time than the first?  Recent experience on a lot had 5,23,8,26,18 fixes (numbers not all exact btw).

The randomizer's "message" just indicates the random number it advances the sequence by. There is no pattern to it, every time you run it, it will basically generate X sims, where X is the number reportedly fixed, then discard the results by quitting without saving. The generator, however, remains advanced and will therefore not be locked in the first spot of the sequence.

[cwykes]

And all this time I thought it was fixing buggy things as well as randomising.  well duh!

How about the gossip thing? Why doesn't the option disappear after it's been clicked once?

PS - my PC won't run sims3 & I'm not sure I want it either, so I'm hoping you're not giving up on Sims2

[J. M. Pescado]

How about the gossip thing? Why doesn't the option disappear after it's been clicked once?

Because detecting whether or not gossip exists to be deleted somewhere in the neighborhood is computationally expensive and risks overrunning the allowed instruction count. This is also why it is not an "instant" action, and instead must be queued.

PS - my PC won't run sims3 & I'm not sure I want it either, so I'm hoping you're not giving up on Sims2

Well, not giving up. There will be more Awesomeland yet. But a PC that runs TS2 should be able to run TS3 better, as TS3 is more stripped and has less stuff.

[cwykes]

OK - so the fact the button shows says there is a problem, but the fact that it reappears sometimes means it didn't get fixed because of time constraints.  Is that it?

I have an oldstyle PCI graphics card which is dealbreaker for Sims3 I believe.  So it's new PC time later this year.  Son half-promised to build me one out of his & his cousin's leftovers. 

[Kyna]

I have an oldstyle PCI graphics card which is dealbreaker for Sims3 I believe.  So it's new PC time later this year.  Son half-promised to build me one out of his & his cousin's leftovers. 

I am running TS3 on an oldstyle PCI graphics card (ATI Radeon 9550).  Yes, all graphic settings are on minimum.  Some advice: save early, save often, and remember you can rename your backup if your save game gets corrupted.

[cwykes]

Maybe your card is better than mine.  I've got a radeon 9250 (one of the PCI ones) which is definitely under minimum spec if I'm reading the list right. I'm still not really tempted though.  Minimum graphics sucks for a game that's main selling point is lookinga nd playing better than the old one.  Then there's securom.  I decided I'd vote the effective way on EA's copy protection stance and not buy Sims 3.  I plan on holding out longer than a few months...

[pandora]

Hi,

I have a problem after using the lot debugger. I turned my sim into a witch. Now I want to visit the magic lot, but there were suddenly 8 magic castles and all lots are empty when one visits them What am I to do now?