FFS "Batbox" Lot Debugger v2.0: NUCLEAR WAR EDITION

[Venusy]

Yeah, but I'm not seeing the "upgrade pre-Uni Sims" which is suppose to fix moved in mascots and the like, right, so they'll have the right number of slots and such? I have a house with two former mascots living in it now and neither have the right slots and the option isn't showing up.

It doesn't work for college dropouts. Only people who never went get the option.

[jsalemi]

Right; you need TwoJeffs College Adjuster Plus to fix ex-dormies/NPCs from University.  It'll let you fix their want slots and locks, grades, etc.

[JenW]

I thought they were supposed to "graduate" when you moved them in with their boyfriend/girlfriend/etc?  That's what I'd always heard, I thought...

[ZephyrZodiac]

Moving mascots into the main hood is a problem, maybe the debugger just doesn't recognise them?

[JenW]

Oh that could be...they supposedly fixed the mascots, but we know how accurate Maxis is when it comes to what they've fixed

[Venusy]

I thought they were supposed to "graduate" when you moved them in with their boyfriend/girlfriend/etc?  That's what I'd always heard, I thought...

No, they drop out. If they'd graduated, then they would have 6 want slots. They weren't booted out, as then they'd have 4 fear slots.

In the case you described, the effect is the same as if they had selected Call.../College, then Registrar - Drop Out (I can't actually remember the name for that option, but it's something like that). I think what the debugger looks for is any indication of if they went to college, and bases the logic for displaying the Upgrade Pre-Uni Sims option on that.

[ZephyrZodiac]

And since they will have the Went to College memory, the debugger presumably assumes they are not pre-uni sims!

But you can use the electronics tree from TJ to give them the extra slots.

[J. M. Pescado]

If the game thinks they're already graduated, the option won't appear because the graduation data is corrupt. Use the Jeffian College Adjuster to add the missing items manually.

[ZephyrZodiac]

And next time, move them into a college lot and make them work like everyone else to get their degree!

[JenW]

Ah, okay, I must've misheard something somewhere along the line. Thanks for the help all.

LOL ZZ, it's for a legacy so I'm not sure if that would be within the rules or not

[ZephyrZodiac]

Well, I suppose it depends on the rules!

[witch]

Where exactly are they?  I have all mine in Downloads>Hacks>Pescado/TJ/Crammyboy etc. and they all work fine.

They're in Downloads\Hacks.  I even tried moving them up into the main Downloads folder, but it didn't help.

Just an off-the-cuff question - you have enabled viewing of custom content in your build/buy catalogues have you?

[jsalemi]

I thought they were supposed to "graduate" when you moved them in with their boyfriend/girlfriend/etc?  That's what I'd always heard, I thought...

No, they drop out. If they'd graduated, then they would have 6 want slots. They weren't booted out, as then they'd have 4 fear slots.

No, that's not always true -- I just moved a college dormie in with his boyfriend, and while he didn't get the extra want slots, he did come with a graduated memory and a diploma.  According to the Prima guide at least (I know, not always the best source of info), the status of a dormie becoming playable by moving in with a playable sim is supposed to track the playable sim's status.  IOW, if the playable graduted, the game treats the dormie as graduated; if the playable dropped out, the dormie dropped out.  The College Adjuster lets you easily make them 'true' graduates, by giving them grades and the extra want slots and locks.

[JenW]

Yup, Witch. I am a custom-content junkie so I definately keep it enabled. I can buy the debugger, just wasn't seeing the options I expected.

[ZephyrZodiac]

I thought they were supposed to "graduate" when you moved them in with their boyfriend/girlfriend/etc?  That's what I'd always heard, I thought...

No, they drop out. If they'd graduated, then they would have 6 want slots. They weren't booted out, as then they'd have 4 fear slots.

No, that's not always true -- I just moved a college dormie in with his boyfriend, and while he didn't get the extra want slots, he did come with a graduated memory and a diploma.  According to the Prima guide at least (I know, not always the best source of info), the status of a dormie becoming playable by moving in with a playable sim is supposed to track the playable sim's status.  IOW, if the playable graduted, the game treats the dormie as graduated; if the playable dropped out, the dormie dropped out.  The College Adjuster lets you easily make them 'true' graduates, by giving them grades and the extra want slots and locks.

I think there's a difference between dormies and mascots in this respect, although I personally always make dormies graduate same as any other sim!

[JenW]

Does the "move in" option work in Uni now, then? I haven't tried it since before the first NL patch (maybe even before NL, I don't remember) and it sure didn't work for me, and someone somewhere told me it was broken

[ZephyrZodiac]

I've always managed to get dormies to move in - but you can't do it in dorms if they already live there!  But if they are friends and your sim lives in a house (not a Greek House) then your sim can just ask them to move in.  If it's a Greek House, then you'd have to go through the normal procedure, i think.

Another thing you can do, of course, is to use the mind control mirror and the teleporter and get them to find own place - but you always, I think, need to unattached members of the default house on the lot for it to work.  Once they are in the Students' Bin, they can be treated like any other student - since they will only have 500 simoleons if you do it this way, they would presumably have to move into a dorm first.

[witch]

Yup, Witch. I am a custom-content junkie so I definately keep it enabled. I can buy the debugger, just wasn't seeing the options I expected.

Now I'm confused - I thought it was paranoidandroid who was having problems? And ZZ was helping her/him?
I think we might have crossed our wires here. 

[ZephyrZodiac]

That's the trouble with long and involved threads!  Lots of crossed wires.....

[JenW]

Yup, Witch. I am a custom-content junkie so I definately keep it enabled. I can buy the debugger, just wasn't seeing the options I expected.

Now I'm confused - I thought it was paranoidandroid who was having problems? And ZZ was helping her/him?
I think we might have crossed our wires here. 

Oops! I should have looked more closely to who you were responding to I jumped in and started pestering everyone too, so ZZ was helping both of us, being such a lovely helpful person. The wires were crossed on my end, as is so often the case

[ZephyrZodiac]

Now I'm confused!   But did I help?

[JenW]

LOL

Yes you did

[ZephyrZodiac]

That's good to know! 

[twistingsims]

I have a couple of sims who's diploma's changed to other sims when first sim moved out.  How do I use the debugger to re-issue the diploma to the sim.  It does say only works in debug mode.  Now does that mean I have to use the boolprop testingcheats enabled true, and then am I in debug mode?  I did that and the box did not give any options of reissue said sims diploma.  If not then can I get some details for dummies on this procedure.

[ZephyrZodiac]

Does the sim in question still have a diploma, even if it's the wrong one?