Why do so many people's male sims look like women?

[laeshanin]

The scientific interest the Y chromosome for evolutionary purposes is relatively new as it was once thought to be merely a defunct repository for DNA that was no longer of any use, and there is already research ongoing that looks into the concept that males are 'damaged' females. Certainly, in the majority of species being female is a distinct advantage as life spans are longer plus the advantage of chromosomal symmetry affords other genetic benefits. There are a number of very interesting articles about, this being one of them.

this bit here

[miros]

I read somewhere that chimp Y chromosomes have shrunk just since scientists have started measuring such things because the sperm with smaller Y chromosomes swim faster and have a better chance of reaching the egg, given the competition provided by promiscuous behavior.

[blubug]

So it'll be "v" chromosomes from now on? Or chimps are lesser men now? We'll have some good-looking girlie chimps in a few hundred years then. (Note to self: Go to bed. It's late.)

[OpiumGirl]

Interesting link, Laeshanin, thanks.

[J. M. Pescado]

Certainly, in the majority of species being female is a distinct advantage as life spans are longer plus the advantage of chromosomal symmetry affords other genetic benefits. There are a number of very interesting articles about, this being one of them.

I dunno about THAT. I mean, women have to contend with annoying health issues all their lives, which only get worse later on. Men just live short, brutish, and nasty existences that end with gruesome death in combat or an industrial accident. As expendable units, we don't have to deal with that, we just get expended.

[laeshanin]

Yes indeed. One of the most annoying health issues I have had to contend with as a woman is "man 'flu" or the common cold. It goes hand in hand with a genetic inability to remember where his car keys/socks/pants (add as applicable), or to actually tell the difference between a tea towel or a towel. 

[J. M. Pescado]

Yes indeed. One of the most annoying health issues I have had to contend with as a woman is "man 'flu" or the common cold. It goes hand in hand with a genetic inability to remember where his car keys/socks/pants (add as applicable), or to actually tell the difference between a tea towel or a towel. 

I have no idea what you're on about. I'm guessing you must have been trawling the shallow end of the gene pool, though.

[miros]

Yes indeed. One of the most annoying health issues I have had to contend with as a woman is "man 'flu" or the common cold. It goes hand in hand with a genetic inability to remember where his car keys/socks/pants (add as applicable), or to actually tell the difference between a tea towel or a towel. 

I have no idea what you're on about. I'm guessing you must have been trawling the shallow end of the gene pool, though.

Man 'flu is when your significant other gets all lovey-dovey the day before he comes down with a cold.  This means you'll get it too.

[V]

Hmm, I thought it was the man's unfortunate inability to cope with any aspect of life the moment his nose gets stuffy from the common cold. Instead of getting on with life he must suffer loudly under a pile of blankets begging for someone to bring him things.

Of course if you put him in a sound-proof room on the other side of the house you can get on with your day without having to hear the piteous whining.

[Dark Trepie]

Well, as long as were slinging stereotypes here...

Could you ladies please stop catching those PEBKAC viruses?  Its ever so annoying.  Also, take the time to read the manual that comes with your VCR.  I'm tired of having to set the clock every time the lights go out.  I'd hate to think what desperate measures you would take if no one was there to set the timer on the thing so you can record your favorite soap opera.

Oh yes, and please learn how to drive.  Getting run off the road because you're one my side of the road is getting tiresome.

Man, I tell ya, women drivers...

[Rose Outlaw]

Pebkac virus?

[Venusy]

Pebkac virus?

Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair.

[miros]

Hmm, I thought it was the man's unfortunate inability to cope with any aspect of life the moment his nose gets stuffy from the common cold. Instead of getting on with life he must suffer loudly under a pile of blankets begging for someone to bring him things.

Of course if you put him in a sound-proof room on the other side of the house you can get on with your day without having to hear the piteous whining.

That's the second stage.  If you recognize the first stage in time, you might be able to send him to visit his mother before the second stage starts.

[J. M. Pescado]

Hmm, I thought it was the man's unfortunate inability to cope with any aspect of life the moment his nose gets stuffy from the common cold. Instead of getting on with life he must suffer loudly under a pile of blankets begging for someone to bring him things.

I've always just suggested that this be done through the use of power tools. If your nose is jammed, the obvious answer is to unjam it, just like you would do with any other kind of jammed pipe: You take a pipe cleaner and swab it out. Some people are just whiny wussies, period.

Besides, from what I can tell, women whine just as much. The chat is constantly filled with people snivelling about how this and that is stuck. FLOSS IT, people. Just take some thick twine and string it into your nose and out your mouth. Now floss vigorously.

[Ephraim]

On hot American presidents: I always thought Franklin Pierce was pretty nice-looking.

On girly-men: I like my fake guys to look pretty (because it's fantasy and I'm a fangirl at heart), but I like my IRL guys to look good, yet not look prettier than me.  I don't spend a lot of time actually creating Sims anyway (unless it's Sim-me or for a story)--whatever the genetics spit out as a result of the breeding of the few Sims I actually made is what I get.

On Trepie: There's a Sim-Trepie in my hood too. 

[V]

I've always just suggested that this be done through the use of power tools. If your nose is jammed, the obvious answer is to unjam it, just like you would do with any other kind of jammed pipe: You take a pipe cleaner and swab it out. Some people are just whiny wussies, period.

Besides, from what I can tell, women whine just as much. The chat is constantly filled with people snivelling about how this and that is stuck. FLOSS IT, people. Just take some thick twine and string it into your nose and out your mouth. Now floss vigorously.

The power tool suggestion is one that I have often considered in times of "man-flu".

As you say, some people are just whiny. Men, women, it doesn't really matter; it all depends on which variety you happen to be dealing with. Most of the women I have chosen to know over the last decade have been the ones who take care of what needs to be done and who have to work around or through completely incompetent (and whiny) husbands. I have recently met some women who seem to think their husbands are supposed to "take care of them" and I am studying them as one might study a strange new variety of spreadsheet that could be used as a word-processor if you enter the correct sequence of commands.

But I digress.

For myself, I believe I will stick to standard cold medications as long as they are able to alleviate the worst of the cold symptoms enough so that I can function. Perhaps one day in absolute desperation I will consider the sinus flossing method. I probably won't use it, but the consideration of such a method will probably encourage me to get up and get on with things.

[neriana]

I do not like pretty boys. I want him looking at ME, not in the mirror, thanks. Also, I like men, not teenagers, yech. I don't like super macho men either, though, they look like balloon animals with fur. Or, worse, totally shaved. And I've never understood sexual fantasies in which I could not possibly take part. Gay sex is so not a turn-on. I watched gay porn once. It was like watching someone pee. Well, that's sort of how I feel about all porn: if I'm not actually doing it, I don't see the point.

I'm only attracted to (straight) men, but I see both men and women who look nice all the time. Perhaps I'm not very picky. But for me, a guy only gets really hot when he starts talking. Or really ugly, for that matter. The guys I've crushed on most have always been on the cute side of average-looking, but extremely intelligent, funny and charming. Nicely dressed also helps.

Regarding the stereotypes: I have had a nasty cold since Wednesday, and I have whined about it non-stop. It's not quite nasty enough to shut me up, but it makes me very, very grouchy. Also, I'm the one who programs the VCR and does various other "handy" type things around the apartment, which my grandmother taught me. My father is hopeless, and so is my boyfriend .

[gali]

"Now, I have NO problem with female looking males....But, I'm wondering if anyone can offer any theories as to why exactly almost every male sim created by a woman (especially @ MTS) looks like a woman.  I'm actually just wondering about the psychology behind it." [OpiumGirl]

Psychology for a penny, and a Feminist answer:  because the females are more shiney, have stronger character, and rule the world. The males are ninnies, ruled by their bottom side of the body, and are used only for one purpose - to donate their Y chromosomes to continue the Human breeding....

...Don't tell that to my husband....

[laeshanin]

because the females are more shiney, have stronger character, and rule the world. The males are ninnies, ruled by their bottom side of the body, and are used only for one purpose - to donate their Y chromosomes to continue the Human breeding...

Amen to that, sister.

Besides, from what I can tell, women whine just as much. The chat is constantly filled with people snivelling about how this and that is stuck. FLOSS IT, people. Just take some thick twine and string it into your nose and out your mouth. Now floss vigorously.

We do, we do. I live with a female hyochondriac who never gets anything less than Avian 'flu if she has so much as a sniffle, but will still smoke 20 fags throughout. Mind you, the ciggies seem to really clear the old tubes so less vigorous flossing (thinner twine though nicely slicked up) is required. A decent size bucket is recommended too.

Still like my men to be "real men" and not too pretty. And big - tall, wide-shouldered - with a great sense of humour.

[siggylove]

We really do like the same type of men Laeshanin - big shoulders, tall, not too much muscle?  Seperated at birth were we?

I do not like pretty boys. I want him looking at ME, not in the mirror, thanks. Also, I like men, not teenagers, yech. I don't like super macho men either, though, they look like balloon animals with fur. Or, worse, totally shaved. And I've never understood sexual fantasies in which I could not possibly take part. Gay sex is so not a turn-on. I watched gay porn once. It was like watching someone pee. Well, that's sort of how I feel about all porn: if I'm not actually doing it, I don't see the point.

Neriana, I like you, do not enjoy watching two men play hunt the sausage, nothing against it at all, just don't find it a turn on.  I can understand how men may find sapphic play appealing, but it doesn't necessarily follow that women find gay males fornicating titillating.

Each to their own, I suppose.

[laeshanin]

Must have been separated, siggy. I can find no other explanation. 

I can understand how men may find sapphic play appealing, but it doesn't necessarily follow that women find gay males fornicating titillating.

And yet the whole phenomena of slash fiction exists? I've known a few slash writers in my time - some of them good - and they are definitely fixated by male on male porn. Have to say it does very little for me but then porn is just meh... whatever floats your boat says I.

[J. M. Pescado]

Porn is boring, period. Who wants to watch cheap-looking ugly women who are so loose the men can't get off on them and have to use their hands to finish themselves off, anyway?

Now porn OUTTAKES, those are gold. There's just nothing like watching people unsuccessfully attempt to have sex.

[MMEStalker]

And yet the whole phenomena of slash fiction exists? I've known a few slash writers in my time - some of them good - and they are definitely fixated by male on male porn. Have to say it does very little for me but then porn is just meh... whatever floats your boat says I.

I do enjoy slash (well I say I enjoy slash, in truth I probably enjoyed about 0.5 percent of all the slash I've ever read. That's a quality issue though, since most of it is appalling, and I don't even go to ff.net) and so do most of my female friends. It doesn't affect my enjoyment knowing I can't take part, I just like to imagine attractive men. My main problem with porn, either gay or straight is that everyone looks like they're having an awful time. I've never seen porn with people who look like they enjoy what they're doing. Maybe it's not my main problem with porn, maybe it's that it's filled with people even less attractive than people I've slept with, crappy dialogue, shitty camera work, handlebar moustaches... Yeah, OK, my main problem with porn is that it's just plain bad.

[MyPrecious]

And yet the whole phenomena of slash fiction exists? I've known a few slash writers in my time - some of them good - and they are definitely fixated by male on male porn. Have to say it does very little for me but then porn is just meh... whatever floats your boat says I.

I do enjoy slash (well I say I enjoy slash, in truth I probably enjoyed about 0.5 percent of all the slash I've ever read. That's a quality issue though, since most of it is appalling, and I don't even go to ff.net) and so do most of my female friends. It doesn't affect my enjoyment knowing I can't take part, I just like to imagine attractive men. My main problem with porn, either gay or straight is that everyone looks like they're having an awful time. I've never seen porn with people who look like they enjoy what they're doing. Maybe it's not my main problem with porn, maybe it's that it's filled with people even less attractive than people I've slept with, crappy dialogue, shitty camera work, handlebar moustaches... Yeah, OK, my main problem with porn is that it's just plain bad.

Agreed! The best porn (I have seen; made when dinosaurs walked the Earth) was made in the early 1970's. It was a late night and a mate had managed to hire this video from the XXX shelf- very brave. Anyway about half way through finally a couple just got on with it, they had forgotten the camera and were thoroughly enjoying themselves. Just straight missionary sex with lots of giggling, not a turn on but even with the crazy "porn" music in the background entertaining to watch. The rest of the movie I have no recollection of. Today's stuff is full of heavy breathing and playing to the cameras, if my friends' husbands collection is anything to go by? 

Note- the "I've come to fix your refrigerator/TV etc etc" movies are some of the best comedy Movies around due to the- crappy dialogue, shitty camera work, handlebar moustaches...don't forget the music, now used in major supermarkets.

[J. M. Pescado]

Agreed! The best porn (I have seen; made when dinosaurs walked the Earth) was made in the early 1970's. It was a late night and a mate had managed to hire this video from the XXX shelf- very brave. Anyway about half way through finally a couple just got on with it, they had forgotten the camera and were thoroughly enjoying themselves. Just straight missionary sex with lots of giggling, not a turn on but even with the crazy "porn" music in the background entertaining to watch. The rest of the movie I have no recollection of. Today's stuff is full of heavy breathing and playing to the cameras, if my friends' husbands collection is anything to go by?

If someone giggles during sex, they need to be punched in the face. They probably need it anyway. Face-punching is an important part of good sex.