Custom skins and townie generation

[Jelenedra]

Link won't work, I'll assume it's tripod being a punk again. =p

[rohina]

I guess. It works for me.

[seelindarun]

MadamMim did the Enayla skins, and you can find links to them on her site.

They look fine on the custom townie mutants in my game, but I haven't started breeding anyone in that hood yet, so I don't know how they will work with offspring.

Thanks for the link!  Dewshine shared a very similar scheme with me, except that neither of us really liked the idea of any random coupling producing a really vivid coloured child.  Since there are quite a lot of the exotic skins blended into that scheme, it's pretty likely that many couples will have genes that bracket one or more of them.  It's pretty cool for an Apocalypse 'hood, but I don't like to play that theme in all my 'hoods.

Eventually, we settled on geneticising all the weird skins in a range of their own (1.++) so that their proliferation could be controlled from one 'hood to another.

[rohina]

Okay, I just messed around with them a little in CAS - I had a woman with the lightest possible skin and a man with the darkest, and then rolled them a selection of kids. It certainly looks like the full range of skins is available to offspring. There are some pretty weird permutations, but if you don't want the peculiar coloured skins like green and blue, then I guess you just don't add them to  your game.

[seelindarun]

Actually, I really like the odd hues, and I think there's potential for building some interesting stories around them.  I look forward to reading yours if/when you start breeding them! 

I just didn't want to deal with random (normal-hued) couples producing off-coloured children.  Tossing the peculiar shades in a genetic range of their own off the Maxis scale prevents that, while permitting their use and proper genetic propagation in 'hoods where I want them.

Unfortunately, this could result in the peculiar effect that when I breed light (normal-hued) sims with peculiar ones, their children might be almost anywhere in the Maxis range.  I'm not clever enough to figure out any other geneticising scheme where the peculiar skins could be made "recessive", if they were blended in with the normal shades.

[Metalkatt]

Unfortunately, this could result in the peculiar effect that when I breed light (normal-hued) sims with peculiar ones, their children might be almost anywhere in the Maxis range.  I'm not clever enough to figure out any other geneticising scheme where the peculiar skins could be made "recessive", if they were blended in with the normal shades.

What about setting a .00x range?  Hypothetically, it should make them hyper-recessive, not giantly so.

[Jelenedra]

Generally, when I geneticized my "strange" skintones, I gave them a value of less than 0, like .05 or .01. That makes them recessive to skintones that are .1, so unless you have skintones inbetween .05 and .1 then the game will always favor the .1 skintone.

[jrd]

Sounds like you are confusing the skin values and eye/hair values.

Skintones work slightly different and are not dominant, but rather a spectrum.

Since:
.90 - S4
.60 - S3
.30 - S2
.10 - S1

But this does not mean that S4 is 9 times as dominant S1, rather that a child with S1 and S4 parents will end up with ~.50, and thus will be either S3 or S2, with S3 being more likely a bit.

If your custom skintone is .05 and you breed with an S3 (.60) the child will be ~.33, or most likely an S2. But due to the slight random factor he may also be another skintone (although very unlikely!).

Custom .05 and S1 will have about equal chance of being S1 or the custom skintone.

[Jelenedra]

Oh, well. Nuts. =p

[SpaceDoll]

I've started geneticizing my Enayla pixie skins.  I started with four default replacements, then added the spectrum of "odd" colors at either end, focusing on depth of color, rather than hue, but still trying to keep the colors in families.  I hope this eliminates two "normal" sims having strangely colored babies.  I threw the Glory skin, which is about the same as S3, but with leaves all over, in the middle for a sort of pseudo-recessive Pixie gene.  My goal was to have "normal" families occasionally exibit Pixie tendencies.

[seelindarun]

Interesting...  At the pale end (<0.10), your spectrum goes darker as the numbers get smaller, such that I notice your 0.01 (Is that Moss, maybe?) could almost be blended into the dark shades at the opposite end.

Dewshine's system is similar.  She started with the very deep shades (>0.90) and sorted the peculiar shades from dark to light ending up with the pale but strange shades overflowing (>1.00).  Really, what we need is for the genetic skin system to be made circular!    That way, half the circle can be otherworldly, and the other half perfectly normal.

[SpaceDoll]

YES that would be perfect!  I stuck Moss on that end to keep the greens separate from the purples; I didn't want two purpley sims to have green babies.

[ShipShape]

Ok, I think I'm doing something wrong...not sure though. I got Enayla's Eye set (Not the Eyeless one) and have been trying to de-customize them. I Deleted the product and version flags, and changed flags from 8 to 0, then changed creator to 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000? Any suggestions as to why the CC Star still shows up in BodyShop?

[seelindarun]

Necromance much? 

I don't know WTF you're doing with those flags, but I assume you have your reasons.  Read the FAQ for tutes on geneticising eyes.  In addition, this post by Mens Mortuus is useful for making the eyes available to townies, once you have geneticised correctly.

If you still have trouble, visit Madam Mim's to see how she did her eyes.  More questions?  Start your own thread for new shiny info.