Rant - The ways in which the sims community is completely insane.

[Brynne]

I wonder if Shaklin has restrictions on what hair meshes may be used with his mods? I may have to go double-check my adult section...

[starrling]

Wow, thanks guys.  But after spending so much time on this forum, you do realize my skin has gotten a bit thick, right?  The guy is a turd, plain and simple.  And an Italian one to boot.  Hey... wonder if it's my Genoan ex-fiancee trying to get back at me for years past.  *maniacal laughter fades into the sunset*

[neriana]

Ok, here's another one where the modder's 'instructions' get really out of hand (from MTS2):

'I've had some requests for my YA dreamhair to be available in other age groups and colours so here it is for adults. Recolours are always welcome, please do not use for adult content, unblurring, sexually explicit situations.'

You can find it here: http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=181022.  Surprisingly, no one has commented on this 'restriction' yet....

I don't like porn, but I hate people like this. WTF is with being so obsessed with how horrific naked Sims are that it even occurs to you to warn people against using some hair you made while the blur is off? I'm an adult, it's no one's sodding business what I'm doing with a bunch of pixel people! What do people like this do, shower in the dark so they aren't corrupted by the sight of their own evil nakedness?

[Emma]

I don't like porn, but I hate people like this. WTF is with being so obsessed with how horrific naked Sims are that it even occurs to you to warn people against using some hair you made while the blur is off? I'm an adult, it's no one's sodding business what I'm doing with a bunch of pixel people! What do people like this do, shower in the dark so they aren't corrupted by the sight of their own evil nakedness?

I bet their Barbies always had little panties and bras on

[NothingToSee]

Ok, here's another one where the modder's 'instructions' get really out of hand (from MTS2):

'I've had some requests for my YA dreamhair to be available in other age groups and colours so here it is for adults. Recolours are always welcome, please do not use for adult content, unblurring, sexually explicit situations.'

You can find it here: http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=181022.  Surprisingly, no one has commented on this 'restriction' yet....

Good grief.

It's almost tempting to download it, do all that stuff with it, take photos, post them up and then ask him what he's going to do about it.

Some people...

[Jysudo]

I bet their Barbies always had little panties and bras on

Don't know why I find this very hilarious 

[J. M. Pescado]

It's almost tempting to download it, do all that stuff with it, take photos, post them up and then ask him what he's going to do about it.

Some people...

Go for it. I mean, if they REALLY didn't want it to happen, they shouldn't have given you the idea. It's clearly their fault. This is clearly a reverse psycholergy experiment. Go for it! Do it! You know you want to.

[Jysudo]

Remember to put the pictures here too 

you know we love nekkid sims 

[vector]

And consider including some text along the lines of, "If you didn't want sims to act this way, you shouldn't have created such a whorish hairstyle."

Bwah! 

Anyway, the Sims fan base is dissimilar to that of, say, Counterstrike or a DnD-style game with user created dungeon mods. It's dissimilar in that there seem to be lots more women. This can't be a coincidence.

The divine philosopher Plato was doubtful in what rank of living creatures to place and collocate them [women, Sims custom content creators], whether amongst the rational animals, by elevating them to an upper seat in the specifical classis of humanity, or with the irrational, by degrading them to a lower bench on the opposite side, of a brutal kind, and mere bestiality. For nature hath posited in a privy, secret, and intestine place of their bodies, a sort of member, by some not impertinently termed an animal, which is not to be found in men. Therein sometimes are endangered certain humours so saltish, brackish, clammy, sharp, nipping, tearing, prickling, and most eagerly tickling, that by their stinging acrimony, rending nitrosity, figging itch, wriggling mordicancy, and smarting salsitude, their whole body is shaken and ebrangled, their senses totally ravished and transported, the operation of their judgment and understanding utterly confounded and all disordinate passions and perturbations of the mind thoroughly and absolutely allowed, admitted, and approved of;
-- François Rabelais

Obviously some 15 year old boys in the Sims2 CC creating community also display this behaviour, which we will blame on the feminisation of society and homoerotic advertising. Yes, that's what we'll do.

[neriana]

Vector, I have to put up with that kind of shit at work all the time, no fucking way I'm putting up with it anywhere else. Walk to the edge of a very high cliff over jagged rocks, turn around, and take one step backwards please. Thank you.

The DnD modding community has tons of women, you can't pin this crap on us. Also, I'd rather deal with the Sims 2 community than the Counterstrike one any day.

[J. M. Pescado]

Also, I'd rather deal with the Sims 2 community than the Counterstrike one any day.

WHEN YOU PLAY COUNTERSTRIKE, THE TERRORISTS WIN!

[vector]

The DnD modding community has tons of women, you can't pin this crap on us. Also, I'd rather deal with the Sims 2 community than the Counterstrike one any day.

Oh, I knew I should have said Doom. I didn't want anybody to think I only played a handful of games and was completely unaware of the user bases for most of them. It's my wandering uterus.

[Jelenedra]

My favorite mod for a DnD game (Kivan of Shilmasta for Shadow of Amn) was written by a woman and it's one of the most interesting things I've come across. Much more interesting than Bioware shaky attempt at 'romance' for the female PCs.

[vector]

My favorite mod for a DnD game (Kivan of Shilmasta for Shadow of Amn) was written by a woman and it's one of the most interesting things I've come across. Much more interesting than Bioware shaky attempt at 'romance' for the female PCs.

That's because Bioware are men, and we all know what the male idea of "romance" usually comprises, I think. Good god! Did you ever play NWN and have a go of the brothel in it? And the cheesy meathead dude that you *had* to use if you were playing a female character, because the sexay chicks would just tell you to get lost? I felt like complaining to Ophelia about her house of ill-respute specifically because I was so offended at the lame gigolo I was expected to associate with.

[neriana]

My favorite mod for a DnD game (Kivan of Shilmasta for Shadow of Amn) was written by a woman and it's one of the most interesting things I've come across. Much more interesting than Bioware shaky attempt at 'romance' for the female PCs.

Have you played Kelsey, by jcompton? I'm also really interested in Aklon, which BigRob says should be done within the year. I'm working on one myself, but haven't announced it officially because gods know when it will be done.

Vector: You will find that I'm nearly as nasty toward sexism against men as sexism against women. Bioware screwed up the BG2 romance for female characters (the fact that there was only one was ridiculous), but they have improved substantially. Also, their romances for male characters contradict your prejudice. Bioware is far from perfect in the writing romance and male-female equality department, I've complained about it myself, but they're a hell of a lot better than you want to give them credit for. Nor do I think getting angry at them for not including lesbian prostitutes in NWN really makes a bunch of sense.

Now, if "we all know what the male idea romance usually comprises" means candlelit dinners, backpacking together, sitting in bed reading Calvin and Hobbes on a rainy day, playing World of Warcraft together, moving 3000 miles to be with your girlfriend, and cooking together, to name a very very few, then yes, you may include me in that "we". If, otoh, you're trying to imply that the male idea of romance is just sex, not only is that a rotten thing to say, but worse, it's blatantly untrue. Men are not one monolithic entity glued together by testosterone .

[Jelenedra]

I haven't played the Kelsey mod yet, I can't... get around the portrait. Takes it too far out of the game for me.

I am anxious about the Aklon mod as well. I plan on trying the Solufein mod as soon as I beat the game with Kivan. Then after that... I suppose I'll actually play the game with Anomen if I have to...

Anyways, for the longest time I applauded Bioware for their romances in SoA simply because they HAD one. I mean, the only other alternative for romance in a RPG was Final Fantasy. I always added the appendex if only they had three choices for the female characters too... I mean what hot-blooded Child Of Bhaal would pick the goody-goody 'O Lady Fairest....Dudley Doright' Knight over Valygar or Haer'Dalis. (or Cernd for that matter...god I love Jason Marsden's voice...)

Then they did KOTOR. (I haven't played NWN, so that doesn't factor in)

[neriana]

I haven't played the Kelsey mod yet, I can't... get around the portrait. Takes it too far out of the game for me.

I replaced the portrait with a different one, that's quite easy to do. It's really worth it. I got to know jcompton a bit, so I can't play it any more (it feels like flirting with him, since it's his voice and very like him in character), but I'm very glad I did play it. He did a great job on it.

Someone needs to actually finish a Valygar romance. I should bug my boyfriend to do it, Valygar is his favorite character.

[Jelenedra]

I know it's easy, I just don't know which one to use. =p

Do you still talk to him? Because he needs to get to cracking on that Haer'Dalis romance.

[neriana]

I had a falling out with a couple of his moderators, so I don't still talk to him because for a while I was too angry to talk to anyone associated with them, and then, meh. "Falling out" is putting it very mildly, actually. I still have one of them on ignore at all websites both he and I visit.

I probably wouldn't play a Haer'Dalis romance written by Jason, actually. I'm pretty picky, and I'm not sure his views about the chaotic neutral tiefling bard would be close enough to mine to let me enjoy it. It's too bad JPS has disappeared from gibberlings3, his version of HD looked like it was going to be good.

[Jelenedra]

Yeah, I dunno about some of the REALLY over involved posts some people (at gibberlings3) were making about the Doomguard. Not really big into all the DnD lore, and all that... mess wasn't how I pictured Dalis at all.

I sorta pictured him as a preverse Empath that got off on all the unstable feelings he picked up from other people. Must be my Misty-ness showing through (picturing Bards as projecting Empaths)

[neriana]

I do like the DnD lore myself, but some of the stuff about Haer'Dalis got... really weird. There are a couple people there who are rather obsessed .

Anyway, we seem to have derailed this thread quite thoroughly.

[Jelenedra]

Aye, that we did.

And there were a few... very scary... fans of the Haer'Dalis thread. I think that might be why JPS got scared of it.

All I know is that I am digging the Kivan romance. It was a very good start for modded NPCs for me, I think.

[neriana]

Aye, that we did.

And there were a few... very scary... fans of the Haer'Dalis thread. I think that might be why JPS got scared of it.

All I know is that I am digging the Kivan romance. It was a very good start for modded NPCs for me, I think.

Yeah, I thought of that as a possibility too. I think he had some real-life stuff going on too, but...

[vector]

Vector: You will find that I'm nearly as nasty toward sexism against men as sexism against women.

And you'll find that I'm equally flippant either way.

Amazing.

[Jelenedra]

Oh, I am sure. Real life got in the way of my fanfiction. And now I am so far off track of my mindset back then I don't think I could pick it back up. (I never was one for writing my ideas down first and then writing them. Never worked for me.)

I was throwing around the idea in my head for a NPC mod for SoA, but I have no coding ability. So, the character idea is up there, but no real plans for a follow through because no matter how much writing I did, I'd never be able to make it usable.