Squinge found something interesting...

[cabelle]

A couple years back, I was at a baseball game and saw some woman breastfeedin' her baby while trying to conceal it subtly with her jacket. That was really disturbing to see, especially given the amount of people there. 

 It's definitely disturbing to think a parent has to hide to feed her child, isn't it?

I think it's disturbing to criminalize women feeding their babies the optimum food for humans and encouraging feeding a vastly inferior substance to avoid offending.  And that's all I'm saying.

C

I will never understand why people act like that either. A mother should be able to care for her child in the manner she believes to be best. When I see people make some big disgusting deal out of it I have to wonder what's wrong with them. Baby's eating, so what? Why do you (the person with the problem) have to turn it into something dirty? And I'm not against bottle feeding, I'm more pro-"mom should do what is best for her situation and all other's should keep their noses out."

[Larxene]

I don't see a problem as long as a blanket or such is used or the mother does it in a private place. My mother always went to the car or draped a blanket over my sister to be polite when in public. She really didn't want to just whip a tit out and force others to watch, that's incredibly rude. It's like taking a piss in public, masturbating in public or having sex in public. Sure, they're all natural and normal but not everyone wants to see it while they're eating or on an outing. Same with changing a diaper. That's why we need nice places for mothers to go to tend to these things if they absolutely have to be in public with baby at feeding time, like a lounge.

That said, I never understood why Maxis didn't have breastfeeding in game. It's a mother/child bonding thing but I suppose the media would turn it into OMG PORN! even though adult female sims don't even have nipples.

[cwieberdink]

I don't see a problem as long as a blanket or such is used or the mother does it in a private place. My mother always went to the car or draped a blanket over my sister to be polite when in public. She really didn't want to just whip a tit out and force others to watch, that's incredibly rude. It's like taking a piss in public, masturbating in public or having sex in public. Sure, they're all natural and normal but not everyone wants to see it while they're eating or on an outing. Same with changing a diaper. That's why we need nice places for mothers to go to tend to these things if they absolutely have to be in public with baby at feeding time, like a lounge.

That said, I never understood why Maxis didn't have breastfeeding in game. It's a mother/child bonding thing but I suppose the media would turn it into OMG PORN! even though adult female sims don't even have nipples.

Exsqueeze me?  If it is like taking a piss, masturbating or having sex then it is like porn.  Except it's not any of those things.  Not at all.  Breastfeeding is NOT sexual and it is NOT the elimination of body wastes that are a health hazard.  This is an ignorant and incorrect view.  It is nice to be discreet, but it is certainly NOT rude to nurse your baby without covering yourself head to toe.  In the victorian era when women couldn't even show an ankle, they would open their dress and breastfeed in CHURCH sometimes covering their exposed entire breast with a hankie if they had one available. 

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[uaintjak]

Sims have breasts?

[cabelle]

I don't see a problem as long as a blanket or such is used or the mother does it in a private place. My mother always went to the car or draped a blanket over my sister to be polite when in public. She really didn't want to just whip a tit out and force others to watch, that's incredibly rude. It's like taking a piss in public, masturbating in public or having sex in public. Sure, they're all natural and normal but not everyone wants to see it while they're eating or on an outing. Same with changing a diaper. That's why we need nice places for mothers to go to tend to these things if they absolutely have to be in public with baby at feeding time, like a lounge.

That said, I never understood why Maxis didn't have breastfeeding in game. It's a mother/child bonding thing but I suppose the media would turn it into OMG PORN! even though adult female sims don't even have nipples.

Exsqueeze me?  If it is like taking a piss, masturbating or having sex then it is like porn.  Except it's not any of those things.  Not at all.  Breastfeeding is NOT sexual and it is NOT the elimination of body wastes that are a health hazard.  This is an ignorant and incorrect view.  It is nice to be discreet, but it is certainly NOT rude to nurse your baby without covering yourself head to toe.  In the victorian era when women couldn't even show an ankle, they would open their dress and breastfeed in CHURCH sometimes covering their exposed entire breast with a hankie if they had one available. 

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And you said it perfectly. *stands and applauds faemidwife*

[Ashleigh]

Exsqueeze me?  If it is like taking a piss, masturbating or having sex then it is like porn.  Except it's not any of those things.  Not at all.  Breastfeeding is NOT sexual and it is NOT the elimination of body wastes that are a health hazard.  This is an ignorant and incorrect view. 

faemidwife, I hope my earlier smartass comment wasn't taken the wrong way - I was definitely being sarcastic toward the other poster and I wanted to let you know that I agree with you wholeheartedly. I'm the biggest childless boob nazi I know.

[Rascal]

I breastfed all my kids, and while I tried my best to remain decently covered in public, I can assure you that the one thing that upsets Joe Public more than seeing a breastfeeding mum is listening to a baby screaming with hunger.  Fortunately by the time the last one came along many places had 'family rooms' - lounges for feeding and changing.  It made a huge difference!

[shezoe]

FYI, I kept getting errors while trying this mod until I turned off JMP's eye in the sky baby minder then it worked ok.

ah! good to know! i use the baby controller too, but have yet to play a lot with babies since downloading this hack. Thanks for the warning!

[cwieberdink]

faemidwife, I hope my earlier smartass comment wasn't taken the wrong way - I was definitely being sarcastic toward the other poster and I wanted to let you know that I agree with you wholeheartedly. I'm the biggest childless boob nazi I know.

Absolutely not. You are fine. I knew what you were saying.  I wasn't gonna reply to this thread because I know this is a hot button issue for me, but I just hate it when people compare breastfeeding to sex or eliminating waste.

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[Marg]

 This mod works well so far.    It's interesting, you can see the animations Mom goes through to find the nipple for the baby, but no clothing is removed.    When the baby is finished feeding Mom sort of rocks side
to side while she is holding the little one.  Another bonus is there are no bottles to discard.

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whenever you click on a sim with the intent of a social interaction with another adult (or ANYthing really) you get the "breast feed baby" option. Made me snicker since it DOES apply to a lot of adults i know 

Squinge has updated this pie menu now to not show up unless you click on a baby.

[gethane]

You know, I honestly cannot understand why a woman using her breasts as nature intended perfected through millenia of evolution (or god, whatever you want to believe) is controversial. It was the only way to feed a baby until the last century.  I honestly don't even understand why some people are "against" it. And not in public? Women show more in bikinis on the beach than most women show while breastfeeding, though sometimes the baby isn't terribly cooperative about being discrete. I see more breast tissue on billboards, on tv. Humans are mammals. The very definition of what makes us different than other creatures on this planet is the female of the species provides milk to the young.

I wish those of you that are disturbed by breastfeeding would take 5 minutes of your life and educate yourself about it. Don't want to seem like one of those screaming ninnies on the bbs? Well act like you care about REAL information, about everything, not just the sims.

[J. M. Pescado]

I don't see a controversy either. Stop trying to make one. End of story.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program:
This is definitely interesting, but has the minor drawback that Squinge has overridden the global pie menu. Kind of a no-no. Maybe I should make a more awesome version.

[cabelle]

A more awesome version would be lovely Pescado. Thank you.

[Marg]

 Oh yes please.    A more Awsome version would be appreciated.

[anelca]

i'm sure i posted around midday (UK time) about what this mod actually looks like in the game but i can't see it 

anyway, the breastfeeding sim waves their left arm about a bit in a vague unbuttoning of the clothing way, the baby stays static and then the reverse buttoning up of clothing. no breasts are seen

so nothing controversial at all, whatever your views are about BF in RL
but it's a start for of us who wish to see it in our game

[Regina]

Pescado, I would LOVE to have an awesome version of this mod, and NOT one I have to go behind closed doors to retrieve! LOL

I remember way back in the early chats about TS2, it was said breast feeding was to be an option.  I was very disappointed when the game came out with only bottles.

[Pegasys]

Here's another vote for an awesome-ized version. I was about to download it but I hesitated - not about the breastfeeding part (AT ALL), but about the integrity of the hack... I'd download an awesome-ized version in a hot second.

[radiophonic]

Here here. Another vote mostly because I like to keep all of my installed hacks from the same site so I don't have to scrub the web to find updates, and let's not forget the awesomeness of it all, of course.

[Renatus]

Heh, I saw this mod yesterday and was greatly amused that he also incorporated men breastfeeding...
That ought to be fun to see...

That was the main thing that gave me pause about it. I know IRL it's technically possible, but... no. Just... no.


Another vote here for an Awesomized version.

[J. M. Pescado]

That was the main thing that gave me pause about it. I know IRL it's technically possible, but... no. Just... no.

It is? How? I thought the expression "Tits on a bull" was the epitomy of nonfunctionality.

[atavera]

This is very interesting.  I guess maxis is reading those modding request forums after all, but didn't have the guts to implement this one fully.  I was shocked one day to recieve a PM requesting this one time on MTS2(I have no idea why I would be the one to make new animations, especially for something like this )

As Pescado mentioned, overwriting the global pie menu is definetly not something you would want to have though.  I suppose that Squinge probably could have posted this in the non-adult forums had he not enabled it for males  and added a censor grid(or is that just the screenshots of his game with censorship disabled?) or something.

[atavera]

That was the main thing that gave me pause about it. I know IRL it's technically possible, but... no. Just... no.

It is? How? I thought the expression "Tits on a bull" was the epitomy of nonfunctionality.

ROFL that reminds me of some jokes that I've heard

[Renatus]

That was the main thing that gave me pause about it. I know IRL it's technically possible, but... no. Just... no.

It is? How? I thought the expression "Tits on a bull" was the epitomy of nonfunctionality.

Hormones. Males actually do have mammary glands, but generally they don't produce the right hormones to make them function. Usually the hormonal stimulation is from an outside source, like medications and possibly diet. Googling "male lactation" gives a surprising number of links; here's the Wikipedia article.

[DrBeast]

Thank you Renatus for inadvertedly reminding me I've got work to do, heh! Genes to clone, bacteria to feed, etc etc...
And welcome aboard atavera!

[laeshanin]

I don't see a controversy either. Stop trying to make one. End of story.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program:
This is definitely interesting, but has the minor drawback that Squinge has overridden the global pie menu. Kind of a no-no. Maybe I should make a more awesome version.

J.M., get yer skates on and do this!

Breast v bottle? No contest as breast is best, and screw mammary fixation as they have a SECONDARY sexual function. Visual stimuli for all those blokes out there to remind them human females are in season ALL the goddamn time. Get over it...