Question about alien kids

[cwhitney]

I've had one alien kid in my game since installing NL, and she's considerably different from the other alien kids, and I'm wondering if this is a function of something included with NL, or if it's something I've downloaded.

The most recent alien kid differs from other aliens in that she has human eyes and she does not have Pollination Tech as a parent.  Her father is the only parent on her family tree.  I downloaded the Multiple Pollination Techs hack from MTS2, and I removed it when I installed NL.  I did not put it back (I didn't bother to check to see if it was NL compatible).  Also, this alien child was a product of the Dance Sphere rather than the telescope.  She also has DNA coming from somewhere else as her lower jaw not only is different from her father's, it almost could be diametrically opposed (she has a very thin, tapered chin; he's got jowls)

I read rumors that there was something that changed with NL with regards to alien children, involving making them no longer relatives, but I never saw that confirmed by a Maxis source.  Is that the case here, or is something else going on here?  I sort of miss making pure alien kids, and was wondering if there's something I could do to restore that ability.

[J. M. Pescado]

I think that's just the way alien spawns are handled now, so they're no longer all half-siblings. This otherwise seems normal, I don't think you're guaranteed to always receive alien eyes.

[gjam]

Human eyes have always been a possibility.  The very first alien child I got had them.  (See my avatar.)

[gypsylady]

I have had them turn out human skin and alien eyes, alien skin and human eyes, alien skin and alien eyes and totaly human looking .It is just the roll of the genetic dice.

[J. M. Pescado]

I have had them turn out human skin and alien eyes, alien skin and human eyes, alien skin and alien eyes and totaly human looking .It is just the roll of the genetic dice.

It is not possible to have human skins with alien eyes, since the alien eyes basically are just a null eye that defaults to the eyes baked directly onto the skin.

[gypsylady]

I stand corrected I meant to type human eyes.My brain thinks faster than my fingers can type and I get ahead of my self.There fore you are more awesome than I.


edit:fixed typo

[Pegasys]

My half-alien recently had a child, who is, naturally, quarter-alien, but still has the green skin. However, he's got HUGE gray eyes. Are these huge eyes dominant (Is this readily apparent in SimPE)? I mean I am really getting serious about selective breeding these days. 

[Jysudo]

I really hate it  when aliens get bug shaped human beings - its spooky!

And that Multiple PT hack from MTS2 is compatible with NL - I been using it and the alien kids have the PT's genetics.
- very sharp pointy ears and small good looking bug shaped eyes and yes a nose.

[Adara]

I installed the new patch a few days ago and now all of my alien kids are siblings again. PT ist listed as their father.

[Ancient Sim]

It is not possible to have human skins with alien eyes, since the alien eyes basically are just a null eye that defaults to the eyes baked directly onto the skin.

Presumably you are talking about first generation aliens, straight from the abduction?  I've had quite a few children/grandchildren of aliens who've had human skin and alien eyes - in my experience, the skin is the first thing to phase out.  In my new Pleasantview, I gave both Caliente sisters recessive alien skin & eyes, resulting in Nina having a son to Don with expressed alien eyes and recessive alien skin and Dina's twin daughter to Mortimer (second born) having the same combination; her twin brother inherited no alien genes at all.  What I have noticed is that the alien eyes change in subsequent generations - both the Caliente offspring's eyes look like normal eyes with darker pupils, whereas the original aliens have the huge bug-like pupils. 

[cwhitney]

Human eyes have always been a possibility.  The very first alien child I got had them.  (See my avatar.)

Weird.  What's the likelihood of getting human eyes?  This first kid with human eyes in my game is the tenth alien child born.

[Jysudo]

I thought ita 50-50% if the simmie has cc eyes.

[Lythdan]

I had a half alien get abducted a week or so ago...and he'll be pregnant probably for the next 5 years or so...gotten really sick of that 'hood

[Tgdrysix]

I really hate it  when aliens get bug shaped human beings - its spooky!

And that Multiple PT hack from MTS2 is compatible with NL - I been using it and the alien kids have the PT's genetics.
- very sharp pointy ears and small good looking bug shaped eyes and yes a nose.

Would this be a default pt replacement? And could you point me to that thread at mts2?...I tried searching for something like this but was unsuccessful in my attempt .....thanks, tgdrysix

[ZephyrZodiac]

Well, I had an alien who married a non-alien with the elf-face.  Their child is very like her mother - so I think the elf face must take precedence over the alien one.

[angelyne]

Would this be a default pt replacement? And could you point me to that thread at mts2?...I tried searching for something like this but was unsuccessful in my attempt .....thanks, tgdrysix

You can find one here : http://laverwinklesims.com/index.php?topic=17.0

You can also make your own pt replacement by using the file above.  All you have to do is extract the facial structure of a sim that you like, and replace the facial structure in the file above with your own.

[PattyB]

Would this be a default pt replacement? And could you point me to that thread at mts2?...I tried searching for something like this but was unsuccessful in my attempt .....thanks, tgdrysix

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=71852

There is a link in this thread to the original Multi-Poly hack.

[miramis]

The most recent alien kid differs from other aliens in that she has human eyes and she does not have Pollination Tech as a parent.  Her father is the only parent on her family tree.  
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I sort of miss making pure alien kids, and was wondering if there's something I could do to restore that ability.

As of this last nightlife patch my recent alien spawn has polination tech as the second parent.  I do have GloamingMerles Poli-Tech replacement though so perhaps that is why?

[Tgdrysix]

Would this be a default pt replacement? And could you point me to that thread at mts2?...I tried searching for something like this but was unsuccessful in my attempt .....thanks, tgdrysix

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=71852

There is a link in this thread to the original Multi-Poly hack.

Thanks will check it out....tgdrysix

[Tgdrysix]

Would this be a default pt replacement? And could you point me to that thread at mts2?...I tried searching for something like this but was unsuccessful in my attempt .....thanks, tgdrysix

You can find one here : http://laverwinklesims.com/index.php?topic=17.0

You can also make your own pt replacement by using the file above.  All you have to do is extract the facial structure of a sim that you like, and replace the facial structure in the file above with your own.

I knew about this one and it's nice but I wanted to stick with the green alien skintones....I have several I use....but making my own maybe the way to go....I'm assuming I would use 
simpe to make this default replacement?  Is there any tutiorals on doing this? I'm very new to that program and I really need step by step instructions ( oh and any pics would be nice too, )....thanks , tgdrysix

[Sleepycat]

I knew about this one and it's nice but I wanted to stick with the green alien skintones....I have several I use....but making my own maybe the way to go....I'm assuming I would use 
simpe to make this default replacement?  Is there any tutiorals on doing this? I'm very new to that program and I really need step by step instructions ( oh and any pics would be nice too, )....thanks , tgdrysix

for making default replacements -  http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?topic=2930.0

as for the polli-techs, I use the one at laverwinkle now but I use to use one of the ones in that thread at mts2

polli-tech replacement file(s) do not affect the skintone (or hair color) so you can use it with any alien skintone you want 

[ElfPuddle]

Sleepycat, when you use multiple poli techs, do your alien kids show up as related to each other, or do they all have the same poli tech as their "biological sponsor"

In other words, does the multi poli tech just help the genetics (whatever you use), or does it actually help that "we're all related to each other" issue?

Am I even making sense? Never mind. Must go home.

[Sleepycat]

Sleepycat, when you use multiple poli techs, do your alien kids show up as related to each other, or do they all have the same poli tech as their "biological sponsor"

In other words, does the multi poli tech just help the genetics (whatever you use), or does it actually help that "we're all related to each other" issue?

Am I even making sense? Never mind. Must go home.

At one time I did use the multi-polli-tech hack over at mts2 so I can actually answer this *giggles*

Yes the kids showed different polli-tech parents and it took care of the "all related" issue but then NL came out and I had restarted my hood (yet again) and NL changed the "all related" thing   

I read that the multi-polli-tech hack didn't work with NL for some people and never got around to testing it out myself and now I'm reading that the patch changed the "all related" thing back to what it was before NL *sigh*  I patched days ago and if I remember I am going to check my alien spawn in strangetown and maybe try the multi-poli-tech hack (which does what Maxis should have done in the first place!)

[vcline]

Sleepycat, when you find out about the multi-polli-tech and NL situation, please let us know.  And if anything can be done within SimPE to fix things the way they are supposed to be, I hope you can supply details so I can fix my alien kids (assuming they need fixing, I haven't visited them since NL).  So far I can only do the most rudimentary things in SimPE, but I'm always wanting to learn more.

[Jysudo]

I am a bummer and a philopsophical risk taker and I leave the PT (mts2 version) hack in my NL game.

No problems at all. The kid get sharp pointy ears and black bug shaped eyes, genes of the  PTs hack.

So yeah, u can use it but if u are not philosophical, pls back up ur game 1st.

The recent NL patch seemed to make the aliens linked again. I haven't checked it out for myself yet.