Another dumb- ass neighborhood restart question.....

[ZephyrZodiac]

Inge's method of renaming is quicker, though.

[Tgdrysix]

Well in that case I would make a backup copy of the hood and keep it someplace safe, and keep backing it up every so often if I continued to play it, and especially I would take all my stuff out that I wanted to keep safe from the big fiery ball when a new EP is installed.

when you "backup" your hood were do you put it or rather send it?  do you backup just the neighborhood folder or thesims folder?  cause yeah I'd like to prevent the bfb from blowing up this hood ! tgdrysix

[ZephyrZodiac]

I put mine on my second hard drive, but if you don't have one, somewhere else in you My Documents folder is fine.  If you use SimPE to make your back up for you, it just puts it into the EAGames folder, so I'd guess if you put your back up in there in a folder labelled Back Up Folder, it would be OK and hard to lose!

[Tgdrysix]

Also worth removing some of the townies and dormies.  But make sure you get all the memories of other sims who have met them and remove them too.

 I'm not awesome enough to use Simpe to remove memories and such....which I probably need to brave it and download cause before I KNEW it would cause a bfbvfos...I moved the pleasents from pleasentview into a brand new custom hood I made....lot,house, and pleasents.....yikes !  I hadn't been playing the sims2 for very long and I certainly hadn't stumbled across this site....and well I made a big boo-boo....I was setting up this neighborhood for nightlife....and well I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I didn't mess it up too badly....I haven't been there recently to play that hood been stuck in pleasentview trying to get pass my first generation there before I move on to strangetown and then my new custom hood...so much simming to do so little time !  Tgdrysix

* I do have the no regenerate townies/downtownies hack installed to help keep the numbers down *

[Marg]

 I would back up any files you wanted to make sure you don't lose.    I made a copy of my neighbourhoods,
my saved sims, my project folder, my downloads.   I just have a folder sitting on my desktop called back-ups.
When I make new backups I just put them in a folder with the date I made the backups, and then move the new folder I just made into my Back-Ups folder on my desktop.   You can put them wherever you want them to be.    Some people put their back up files in their Documents folder.  I just find it easier to leave them on my Desktop.    If you back up the  Sims2 folder, you will back up the entire game.   That's not really necessary unless that's what you want to do.

[Tgdrysix]

I would back up any files you wanted to make sure you don't lose.    I made a copy of my neighbourhoods,
my saved sims, my project folder, my downloads.   I just have a folder sitting on my desktop called back-ups.
When I make new backups I just put them in a folder with the date I made the backups, and then move the new folder I just made into my Back-Ups folder on my desktop.   You can put them wherever you want them to be.    Some people put their back up files in their Documents folder.  I just find it easier to leave them on my Desktop.    If you back up the  Sims2 folder, you will back up the entire game.   That's not really necessary unless that's what you want to do.
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Thanks I really need to do something like this just in case something would go wrong...I would really hate to lose my stuff not to mention the time I've put into this game...I think I would want to back up my entire game.....not necessary but I rather have a backup of everything than chance leaving something out that I might miss....tgdrysix

[ZephyrZodiac]

Since we're talking a lot of Gigs here, make sure when you do your second back-up that you either overwrite or delete the first one, or in no time you'll have no Hard Drive Space left!

[C.S.]

Also worth removing some of the townies and dormies.  But make sure you get all the memories of other sims who have met them and remove them too.

I'm not awesome enough to use Simpe to remove memories and such....which I probably need to brave it and download cause before I KNEW it would cause a bfbvfos...I moved the pleasents from pleasentview into a brand new custom hood I made....lot,house, and pleasents.....yikes ! 

If you are going to fix the Pleasants, and they had been out and about, you may need to remove their attraction markers too in the neighbourhood memory editor. I had deleted a bunch of sims, then I started getting 'Missing neighbor for data access' error messages in debug mode. Big thanks to Ancient Sim who told me how to fix it.

[ZephyrZodiac]

Attraction markers are a pain, you have to make sure you get both the attracted and the attractor's markers!  Takes forever with some sims!  But you know if you haven't got them all, your sim will be unable to pee, shower or bath!   (Same applies to the sim they were attracted to!)

[Tgdrysix]

Since we're talking a lot of Gigs here, make sure when you do your second back-up that you either overwrite or delete the first one, or in no time you'll have no Hard Drive Space left!

Glad you mention this cause I just checked and I did have a backup copy that I forgot I made ....probably before I installed nightlife....so I would delete this old one to be replaced with the more up to date copy, right? Thanks again for the info!!! Tgdrysix

[Tgdrysix]

Also worth removing some of the townies and dormies.  But make sure you get all the memories of other sims who have met them and remove them too.

I'm not awesome enough to use Simpe to remove memories and such....which I probably need to brave it and download cause before I KNEW it would cause a bfbvfos...I moved the pleasents from pleasentview into a brand new custom hood I made....lot,house, and pleasents.....yikes !

If you are going to fix the Pleasants, and they had been out and about, you may need to remove their attraction markers too in the neighbourhood memory editor. I had deleted a bunch of sims, then I started getting 'Missing neighbor for data access' error messages in debug mode. Big thanks to Ancient Sim who told me how to fix it.

I haven't a clue to  what you are referring to with "attraction markers"? What exactly are these things and if I actually don't "play the Pleasents" do I really need to be concerned? If so how would I fix this? I don't have SimPe.... I haven't really gotten "into" playing the hood I moved them to, I orginally set it up to play when nightlife came out but I've been stuck playing Pleasantview instead.  So I'm not really attached too much to that hood yet though I do have some sims I'd hate to lose....like Jamie and Adam from the mythbusters! I was just trying to get my Pleasentview to a certain level before I moved to my other hoods cause it had set idle for so long! Anyway thanks for the help and suggestions, tgdrysix

[ZephyrZodiac]

Attraction markers work both ways, if one of your sims is attracted to one of the Pleasants, but for some reason only one of them gets the memory, or the memory is corrupt (ie, has no token) then it can cause real damage to your sim, and the first you know of it is whn they can no longer use the bathroom, either to pee or to wash!  So, if that happens and you don't sort it out, you end up with a very miserable (and if you don't use cheats and hacks) a very dead sim!

[C.S.]

Well, Tgdrysix, if/when you get SimPE, you'll recognise the 'attraction markers' once you see them. One has an icon thingy, these are attraction tokens that shows 'Was Attracted to [insert name]' and may have more than one even if it was for the same sim, so it's easier to track down to delete. The other just says '[invisble] Token - Attraction Marker'. There is only one and from what I understood, it's for showing somebody was attracted to your sim. I gather it's created when some random sim do that 'pssh' sound, point at your sim and make a 'call me' sign while hearts floated about. It doesn't say who it was, and can cause some problems like resetting your sim e.g. you direct another sim to interact with the afflicted sim and the action drops out of the queue faster than you can put it there, nor can the afflicted sim do anything because, well, the action drops out of the queue faster than you can put it there . So you could end up with a miserable and eventually, very dead sim, like ZZ said. Basically, you can forget about playing that lot until you fix the problem.

Like I said, that's only if they had been out and about (or they had been entertaining at home) since you got NL, as there's a chance some other sims had checked them out. There's a thread here about deleting memories. There's also one for adding memories if you are interested. You might want to consider getting the Memories editor enhancements for SimPe (great stuff ) from Peasantry if you decide to get SimPE. Either way, if you had lot-binned any one, it might be a good idea to fix them if you want to keep them .

[ZephyrZodiac]

Pity the Patch makes no mention of having fixed that!  Why do they need memories of attraction to unknown sims anyway?

Now, sensible memories for fulfilling a want - i.e. "Buy a computer"  - memory:  "Bought a computer" - would make sense and shouldn't cause any problems, although I suppose if they started telling every sim they met it would need de-spamming!  And why they need an invisible memory for eating an unknown meal is totally beyond me!  I mean, maybe having Lobster Thermidor followed by Crepes Suzettes is memorable, but Mac and cheese followed by gelatin?  Just how memorable is that?

[C.S.]

.... but Mac and cheese followed by gelatin?  Just how memorable is that?

Maybe the tastes or textures clashed . How about those burned their food ones? What, like if they burned it once, they'll never burn it again .

[ZephyrZodiac]

They seem to do it a lot when the fridge is getting empty!

[Tgdrysix]

Well, Tgdrysix, if/when you get SimPE, you'll recognise the 'attraction markers' once you see them. One has an icon thingy, these are attraction tokens that shows 'Was Attracted to [insert name]' and may have more than one even if it was for the same sim, so it's easier to track down to delete. The other just says '[invisble] Token - Attraction Marker'. There is only one and from what I understood, it's for showing somebody was attracted to your sim. I gather it's created when some random sim do that 'pssh' sound, point at your sim and make a 'call me' sign while hearts floated about. It doesn't say who it was, and can cause some problems like resetting your sim e.g. you direct another sim to interact with the afflicted sim and the action drops out of the queue faster than you can put it there, nor can the afflicted sim do anything because, well, the action drops out of the queue faster than you can put it there . So you could end up with a miserable and eventually, very dead sim, like ZZ said. Basically, you can forget about playing that lot until you fix the problem.

Like I said, that's only if they had been out and about (or they had been entertaining at home) since you got NL, as there's a chance some other sims had checked them out. There's a thread here about deleting memories. There's also one for adding memories if you are interested. You might want to consider getting the Memories editor enhancements for SimPe (great stuff ) from Peasantry if you decide to get SimPE. Either way, if you had lot-binned any one, it might be a good idea to fix them if you want to keep them .

I guess I will eventually have to get SimPe but I think a newer version is in the makes so I'm holding off until then....no point in downloading something that will have to be updated in the near future....oh wait isn't that what we have to do with the sims everytime a new ep comes out??? ...    Never mind....  .... Tgdrysix

[ZephyrZodiac]

Well, with SimPE, you don't always need to update every time a new version comes out unless you actually want some of the new features.  And since it takes a while to find your way around in it, the sooner you start the better, in my opinion.

[gjam]

There's always a new version of SimPE about to come out.  It's updated quite frequently.

Edit:  What I was trying to say (but didn't make clear) is that there's no point in waiting for a new version, might as well take the plunge now.  Because as soon as one new version comes out, then the one after that will be "coming out soon" again.

[ZephyrZodiac]

But if the one you have works for you, and you don't need the new features, why waste time downloading and installing each new edition?  (Also, they sometimes totally screw things up and have to issue yet another one a couple of days later, by which time you've already used it and something has gone very wrong!

[Tgdrysix]

There's always a new version of SimPE about to come out.  It's updated quite frequently.

Edit:  What I was trying to say (but didn't make clear) is that there's no point in waiting for a new version, might as well take the plunge now.  Because as soon as one new version comes out, then the one after that will be "coming out soon" again.

Well, with SimPE, you don't always need to update every time a new version comes out unless you actually want some of the new features.  And since it takes a while to find your way around in it, the sooner you start the better, in my opinion.

But if the one you have works for you, and you don't need the new features, why waste time downloading and installing each new edition?  (Also, they sometimes totally screw things up and have to issue yet another one a couple of days later, by which time you've already used it and something has gone very wrong!

 I'm in no real hurry to "play" the neighborhood that may have issues.... cause I did something I shouldn't have but didn't know at the time I shouldn't have....so waiting for the most recent edition of simpe to come out wouldn't be a problem but getting any version to familarize (sp?) myself with the program wouldn't be a bad idea either unless the  newer version is completely different from the previous one...does anyone know if this will be the case? Tgdrysix

[ZephyrZodiac]

Well, they never have been in the past, except when they brought in the new interface (although mostly it just does the same stuff as the Classic, but with a few additions for NL), and if you familiarize yourself with one, then you shouldn't have problems with a later version.  It's mostly a matter of knowing where things are and what can, or cannot, be done, so I think if I were you I'd go ahead and get it now and give it a go.

[vcline]

It's mostly a matter of knowing where things are and what can, or cannot, be done, so I think if I were you I'd go ahead and get it now and give it a go.

Aye, there's the rub.  I know how to do a few things, but there's so much in there, and the tutorials seem to be only for the simple stuff.  Does anyone have links for explanations of the not-so-simple stuff?  The thread in MATY for changing the DNA of Strangetown is especially good.  Thanks to whoever wrote it! 

[ZephyrZodiac]

I think the best thing would be to list the stuff you want help with, to give people an idea of what will be useful to you.

[Tgdrysix]

Well, they never have been in the past, except when they brought in the new interface (although mostly it just does the same stuff as the Classic, but with a few additions for NL), and if you familiarize yourself with one, then you shouldn't have problems with a later version.  It's mostly a matter of knowing where things are and what can, or cannot, be done, so I think if I were you I'd go ahead and get it now and give it a go.

Okay so  I went ahead and downloaded Simpe....and installed it....haven't got brave enough to open it yet....any words of encouragement for me?   Any words of wisdom...pieces of advice....(feeling like a sim would who's fixing to look in a coffin)!!!! Tgdrysix