Mailbox problems with AM installed

[Death-Jester]

Ok, got the bug again last night. It's on the custom world Union Cove. I put all the files from that save's folder into a zip, here: http://www.filefactory.com/file/7bg9aeb0ibzt/n/autosave0_sims3_zip

[witch]

Pescado won't load a custom world to test, he'll need a save from a regular hood, most likely.

[Madame Mim]

Well, I feel better about the fact that I'd over-written my broken mailbox saves as it was in a custom world too.

[Gwill]

I hope someone can figure out what's causing this.
Every time a sim goes to get mail the game freezes completely.  It doesn't crash, but hangs there, animations continue, water ripples, leaves rustle, and butterflies flutter, but time is not moving and nothing happens.  I have to force the program closed from task manager.
Other interactions with the mailbox seems to be working, the mail man can deliver, faerie traps can be set, metals smelted, and omni seeds ordered.
As far as I can tell it only affects one household, but since that's the only household I play, it's a problem.
It's been going on since before I installed Seasons, but it might have started right after the last patch.
I've tried taking out ALL custom content except for awesomemod, and it still happens.  I'll try without awesomemod if someone can recommend an alternative safe noCD fix.  I've tried resetting and replacing the mailbox; no good.

As for computer specs, let's just say my computer is awesome, I can't check the exact specifications at the moment, but I have 24 bloody gigabytes of RAM.

What else can I try?

Edit:  By the way, when testing faerie trap, my sim was able to attempt to get mail and trigger the trap without crashing, but when he went back to fetch the actual mail freeze happened.  So there's apparently something wrong with the mail itself.

[jezzer]

I'll try without awesomemod if someone can recommend an alternative safe noCD fix.

Twallan's No-CD, from NRAAS Industries, with 3Booter from here to bypass the launcher.  It sounds like your save has gotten corrupted, if it's only affecting the one family.  You could try his Error Trap too, see if it catches anything.

[Gwill]

HOLY ERROR LOGS, BATMAN!

OK, it does not freeze when I took awesome mod out, but the stream of errors was quite unsettling.  It took half a dozen turns to the mailbox to get all the mail out because of sims reseting. There was an awful lot of unpayable bills, mountains of omni seeds (which I sincerely doubt I ever ordered) in gift-wrapped boxes, a few reward certificates, and about a hundred (literally) love letters and creepy gifts from stalkers.

Is there any possible way to nuke the content of the mailbox?

[Gwill]

Sorry, I just made a thread about this in Pudding, it didn't occur to me that it could be an awesome fault.  Feel free to merge thread.

Here you go, Pes:
http://www.4shared.com/rar/MQ27o_fg/Sunset_Valleysims3.html (I'd upload to kludgemush, but I've lost the login info. I'd appreciate if some kind soul could PM it to me.)
Good old Sunset Valley.  Lots of CC, but it loads fine without it.

Edit:
OK, I've been doing some more experimenting.
First of all, since bills and omniplants seems to be main characters in this story I dropped the No Bills Ever trait from my sim, and nuked her gardening skill.  Neither seems to have made any noticeable difference.

This is what my inventory looked like when I first managed to empty the mailbox:

It's bills and giftboxes all the way down.
Hovering over the bills it says "bill", but there are no interactions, they can't be paid, and they can't be moved or deleted without using setconfig MoveInventoryObjects true.  The gifts say "Omni plant" and can likewise not be interacted with.
I experimented with debug-clicking on the mailbox and using View Inventory.
First I tried deleting all the bills and letting a sim get mail: Crash.
Then I deleted the omniplants and fetched mail: No crash.
Also the bills turns out not to be bills, but in fact more damned love letters.

So it's pretty safe to say that the unsolicited omniplant shipments are at the root of this evil.

I deleted all the letters and the game continued as before for about a day or two, then a new shipment of plant spam arrived.  I just keep getting new ones; sometimes three or four a day.
I'll do some more experiments and see what happens.

[jezzer]

Not a clue.  I started a new game when I got the mailbox error last time.  So far, no issues.

[witch]

Just an off the cuff idea, does anyone else use Buzzler's BoxOfSeeds sorter for gardeners?

[Madame Mim]

No. I don't use Buzzler's BoxOfSeeds, neither did the family that was affected have a noBillsEver LTR.

[Gwill]

Just an off the cuff idea, does anyone else use Buzzler's BoxOfSeeds sorter for gardeners?

Dammit, I do.  It claims to be "Compatible with 1.42", but I'll try removing it.  It certainly seems like a likely culprit.

Edit: Removed it, but omni plant spam is still happening. 

[Gwill]

...as far as I can tell it was almost spot on.

Anyway...  Can we get back to figuring out what the hell is going on with these omni plants?

[J. M. Pescado]

http://www.4shared.com/rar/MQ27o_fg/Sunset_Valleysims3.html (I'd upload to kludgemush, but I've lost the login info. I'd appreciate if some kind soul could PM it to me.)
Good old Sunset Valley.  Lots of CC, but it loads fine without it.

I am unable to download this, since you apparently made it registration only. Provide relevant details to get file.

[jezzer]

I just had the mailbox error crop up again in an unawesome game.  Deleting the mailbox and replacing it from BuyDebug apparently fixed the error -- my bills and mail started coming again, as normal -- but I'm not sure what made the error happen.  For the record, I don't have the Buzzler mod witch and Gwill mentioned.

[Gwill]

I am unable to download this, since you apparently made it registration only. Provide relevant details to get file.

Stupid fucking "free" file hosting.

Try these:
http://www.filedropper.com/sunsetvalleysims3
http://www64.zippyshare.com/v/38674701/file.html
One of the bloody things must work.

[jolrei]

It does seem to be related to gardening, since the last patch.  I was wondering whether it was because I only have EPs up to Generations.  There is a jump bug reported (which my game has got as well) where the telescope stops working if you don't have Seasons. 

Same issue with the "semi-freeze".  I nuked and replaced the mailbox, and I also have the "omni plant" immovable spam in inventory.  I'll try the setconfig step.

[J. M. Pescado]

I just had the mailbox error crop up again in an unawesome game.  Deleting the mailbox and replacing it from BuyDebug apparently fixed the error -- my bills and mail started coming again, as normal -- but I'm not sure what made the error happen.  For the record, I don't have the Buzzler mod witch and Gwill mentioned.

Well, if it's also a non-Awesome problem, then I'm completely mystified as to what it could be.

[Gwill]

Awesomemod is what's causing the freeze, but it might be innocent of the omni plant spawning.

[jolrei]

The "setconfig moveinventoryobjects true" approach seems to function as a workaround - at least they can get their mail if you simply view inventory on the mailbox and then "take all".  At that point you still have to remove all the omni plant boxes (every sim day when the mailman comes) and nuke them.  It's a bit of an omni plant apocalypse.

[jezzer]

I actually got unusable, undeletable omni plant seeds from the Adventure Board while on vacation the first time this glitch happened.  When I clicked the board to check for available adventures, the "Get Mail" option was available, and I clicked it out of curiosity, because I've never gotten mail while on vacation before.  Suddenly I had phantom Omni seeds in my inventory.

[Soltis]

An interesting side note: if the game stuffs a foreign mailbox full of Omni Plants and you return home, they end up in your inventory. At that point I was unable to get them out of my inventory even with Ctrl-Shift-Click->Nuke->Object -- but using NRaas->Master Controller->Basic->Sell allowed me to remove them.

[PolecatEZ]

Happened with me as well.  However, I have no gardening skill.

The only thing clogging the box is creepy stalker gifts, and not very many of them.

Awesomemod is the only mod installed.

If the game freeze happens, it will happen consistently.  Reverting to an earlier autosave and getting the mail then usually works, and it generally a love letter which seems to be completely meaningless to the gameplay anyways.

Can we have an Awesome Option for "No Moar Stalker Mail"?


***********update**************

I did find a work-around that can be reproduced reliably.  While you may always select "Get Mail", if you do so when the little flag is down the game will hard freeze.  If you do so while the flag is up, everything is kosher and the mail clears out nicely.  Wait for the flag to go up before taking the goodies.

[wizard_merlin]

***********update**************

I did find a work-around that can be reproduced reliably.  While you may always select "Get Mail", if you do so when the little flag is down the game will hard freeze.  If you do so while the flag is up, everything is kosher and the mail clears out nicely.  Wait for the flag to go up before taking the goodies.

I have selected the get mail option when the flag was down and nothing happened.  My sim simply didn't go to the mail box, as there was obviously nothing in there, and the game didn't freeze either.  I selected the option several times and the game continued to play just fine.

[Gwill]

I suspect the "omni plants" of not being omni plants, but rather those creepy stalker gifts.  I seem to remember there being such a thing (paintings and flowers?), along with the love letters, before this started happening in my game.  I haven't had any since.
The hover text says omni plant, but that doesn't have to mean anything as the hover text on the love letters says "bill".

[PolecatEZ]

***********update**************

I did find a work-around that can be reproduced reliably.  While you may always select "Get Mail", if you do so when the little flag is down the game will hard freeze.  If you do so while the flag is up, everything is kosher and the mail clears out nicely.  Wait for the flag to go up before taking the goodies.

I have selected the get mail option when the flag was down and nothing happened.  My sim simply didn't go to the mail box, as there was obviously nothing in there, and the game didn't freeze either.  I selected the option several times and the game continued to play just fine.

This is a work around for when something *IS* in your mailbox and the flag is down = "Don't check your mail when there is something in your mailbox and the flag is down."

Nothing will happen in your game if you check the mail when there is no mail, as there is no bad mail to lock up your game.  Did I miss some obvious thing here with your observation?