Vampires

[bloodredtoe]

What color are your vamps eyes turning? I've seen pics of red eyes but all I seem to get are a translucent blue/grey color.

It depends on the original color. Their eyes become somewhat brighter version of what they originally were.

Growing plasma fruit like any other vegetable isn't "free", it does require a certain amount of work.  And since I'm trying to grow a huge batch of them to make Vampire Nectar out of - I want Perfect quality fruits, which you can't get at the Grocery.  It's a huge pain in the neck, in a non-vampire sort of way.

I was referring to the "raid store for plasma fruit" option. It is free because you don't pay for the stolen fruit. Of course they're not perfect quality, but neither are free handouts, so what are we talking about?

[anberu]

At bars, vampires have their own selection of blood-named drinks... which don't refill the thirst bar. Considering a vampire's diet is primarily liquid, it seems like the bar drinks should work like the plasma juice boxes.

[Anach]

While I expected Vamp sims to not show in the mirror, I was mostly disappointed to find my elder didn't get the 5x age boost that my YA got.

[J. M. Pescado]

Does that apply even if you are using the latest Rule of 6 version?

[Anach]

Does that apply even if you are using the latest Rule of 6 version?

Yes. YA end up with 5x age length, I assume Adults do too. It now shows like a 1000 days in Epic for YA . However, the Elders still show a end date of 900. My current Elder Vamp is at 902 days, so either she could go any day, or if it does apply, but is a hidden bonus, she will die sometime after Christmas.

[J. M. Pescado]

Elder vampires probably display funny because elders don't actually have an end of stage length.

[Anach]

Elder vampires probably display funny because elders don't actually have an end of stage length.

Well if my Elder is still alive a month from now, then we know there is an extended termination date. The XML says vampires are multiplied by 5, but with no actual termination date, only a percentage chance of death, it's a bit hard to say.

[immortelleMuse]

Is there any real purpose to having your vampire Sim sleep on the "Vampiric Sanctum"? Awesomemod shows that there's no additional benefit, but I'm just curious as to why they put a special vampire bed in the game that doesn't even give them the "slept like the dead" moodlet (as from beds which have the "well rested" moodlet) other than it looks "cool." I mean, shouldn't it at least serve a more practical purpose too? Shouldn't speshul bed be extra speshul for the limited amount of Sims that can use it? /rant

[J. M. Pescado]

It gives 30 EPH, which makes it higher-class than every other bed.

[Anach]

It makes more sense that the vamp beds should give the moodlet rather than normal beds. I bet that they simply got it the wrong way around.

[marchviolets]

One change that would immensely improve vampires imo would be to change the word "plasma" to "blood" in all vampire related instances.  The only place I know of where this would look stupid is "blood juice box" but then again "plasma juice box" already looks pretty stupid.

Would I be correct in recalling that the juice box straws are red (implying that the content of the carton is red)? It bothers me that the plasma fruit and juice boxes are red when plasma is the part of blood that is not red. Blood plasma is straw coloured, clear fluid. I would personally prefer that vampires drink blood in its complete form - red blood cells included! To me, the term "blood juice box" would make more sense.

Also, why would a vampire raid a hospital for plasma and not blood (complete with red blood cells!) when they are happy to drink blood from other sims?

[jezzer]

One change that would immensely improve vampires imo would be to change the word "plasma" to "blood" in all vampire related instances.  The only place I know of where this would look stupid is "blood juice box" but then again "plasma juice box" already looks pretty stupid.

Would I be correct in recalling that the juice box straws are red (implying that the content of the carton is red)? It bothers me that the plasma fruit and juice boxes are red when plasma is the part of blood that is not red. Blood plasma is straw coloured, clear fluid. I would personally prefer that vampires drink blood in its complete form - red blood cells included! To me, the term "blood juice box" would make more sense.

Also, why would a vampire raid a hospital for plasma and not blood (complete with red blood cells!) when they are happy to drink blood from other sims?

Because EA is trying to keep from "offending" anyone or being too traumatic for 6s and early 12s by using the b-word.  I don't usually download nitpicking mods, but that's one thing that is annoying enough for me to consider it.

[Madame Mim]

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=plasma
plasma  
1712, "form, shape" (earlier plasm, 1620), from L.L. plasma, from Gk. plasma "something molded or created," from plassein "to mold," originally "to spread thin," from PIE *plath-yein, from base *pele- "flat, to spread" (see plane (1)). Sense of "liquid part of blood" is from 1845; that of "ionized gas" is 1928.

Although I have to admit that EA probably did mean it as an alternative to 'ze b vord' only and has no concept of its etymology.

[marchviolets]

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=plasma
plasma 
1712, "form, shape" (earlier plasm, 1620), from L.L. plasma, from Gk. plasma "something molded or created," from plassein "to mold," originally "to spread thin," from PIE *plath-yein, from base *pele- "flat, to spread" (see plane (1)). Sense of "liquid part of blood" is from 1845; that of "ionized gas" is 1928.

Although I have to admit that EA probably did mean it as an alternative to 'ze b vord' only and has no concept of its etymology.

It says in your above quote "liquid part of blood". That is the reason I am having a problem with the word's use in game. The blood/'plasma' in game is red. Plasma is not red, it is clear/yellow liquid. I'm not sure how the etymology of the word would do anything to correct this?

Because EA is trying to keep from "offending" anyone or being too traumatic for 6s and early 12s by using the b-word.  I don't usually download nitpicking mods, but that's one thing that is annoying enough for me to consider it.

I agree that it is for the sake of not "offending" anyone, but like you, I do find it particularly annoying.

[Madame Mim]

Because it clearly states that the usage of the word as a part of blood is relatively modern and the base meaning is that of a mobile/maleable thing or something which spreads out into flatness, for which any liquid might fulfill the definition.

[J. M. Pescado]

While I expected Vamp sims to not show in the mirror

Yours DON'T show in the mirror? Because a brief test indicated that apparently the Lala could see herself in the mirror still. You sure that works in LN?

[Anach]

While I expected Vamp sims to not show in the mirror

Yours DON'T show in the mirror? Because a brief test indicated that apparently the Lala could see herself in the mirror still. You sure that works in LN?

I expected them to NOT show, but was disappointed to see they do. I just had amusing thoughts of sims being depressed over not being able to see themselves in the mirror when directed to do so.

[Narmy]

I don't play vampires because of how ridiculously easy it is to gain skills, especially for children and teens.

Plus, free food... unless there are meals you can cook with plasma fruit? It's kinda stupid that they give vampires a fruit, of all things, since gardening is usually done during the day....

[J. M. Pescado]

I expected them to NOT show, but was disappointed to see they do. I just had amusing thoughts of sims being depressed over not being able to see themselves in the mirror when directed to do so.

Yes, that's one of the running gags of Awesomeland, that the Lala cannot see herself in the mirror. The hilarity of Snob sims being denied their "I Am Beautiful" moodlet because they cannot see themselves in the mirror.

[marchviolets]

Because it clearly states that the usage of the word as a part of blood is relatively modern and the base meaning is that of a mobile/maleable thing or something which spreads out into flatness, for which any liquid might fulfill the definition.

Would I be correct in reading the dates on the etymology quote as being when the particular usage of the word started to appear? 1845 might be "relatively modern" and the word "plasma" still has a variety of uses, but today the word "plasma" does have a specific meaning if you are already on the topic of blood. I think that if they were searching for a word with which any liquid could be referred to, they should have used something more suitable. 

Today it is basic 'common knowledge' (I don't like that phrase but I can't think of another one) that plasma is the part of blood that does not include red blood cells. I say "common knowledge" in the sense that it is taught to young kids and teenagers at school (at least it is where I live) - the people that EA is trying to keep from offending?

To me, even if EA had been aware of the information you've shared, it wouldn't change my feeling that the above decision just doesn't make sense.   

[jezzer]

Today it is basic 'common knowledge' (I don't like that phrase but I can't think of another one) that plasma is the part of blood that does not include red blood cells.

Unless, of course, you are the Vole.

[J. M. Pescado]

I don't play vampires because of how ridiculously easy it is to gain skills, especially for children and teens.

You know, technically, there isn't supposed to BE a skill bonus for 6 and 12s. However, my examinations into various issues, like why the Thirst motive always resets to max everytime you reload the game, uncovered a steaming cesspool of bork lurking in the skill system, which results in runaway accumulators that can produce crazyfast learning speeds, or make it impossible to skill at all.