Open relationship help

[striker]

I'm going to try to finally take a stab at creating a romance sim and following it through till the end.  I have the romance mod and i want to eventually get a few sims into a open relationship.  What things should I be on the lookout for and how would be the best to start?

[Venusy]

Probably the best way to start is with Macro.../Socialize.../Romantic if you have the AutoSocialiser installed. After that, I have no idea.

[baratron]

You need JM's Romance mod to take away some of the slapping .

I haven't experimented with it too much because I dislike tormenting my sims. Just read the RTFM again, and it removes "spazzing" of sims for random reasons, and "cheating" only counts if you're caught by a partner in a committed relationship. Nonetheless, it still doesn't go far enough for me. I'm non-monogamous in real life, and my partners know about each other and approve - the three of us spend time together socially, and they even do stuff together without me. However, I think the only way I could make sims of myself & my partners without slapping would be to make us all Romance sims, and that's not right - they'd both be Knowledge sims. Or I'll just have to make sure that none of us are engaged or married in the game (I assume that "steady" in the RTFM refers to the teens' "Going Steady"?) so that we don't count as being in a "committed" relationship .

In general the "cheating" stuff in TS2 annoys me. Cuddling on the sofa is NOT cheating!! Or put it this way, if it is, I've cheated with about 20 different people, some of whom were of incompatible sexual orientation. I know that no-jealousy mods exist, but I'm allergic to mods from random sources, and I want no-jealousy to apply only to certain sims in certain relationships. I mean, I'm not jealous about one of my partner's other partner because their relationship predates ours, but you bet I'd be jealous if she suddenly got involved with someone new that I didn't even know...

[gali]

You have to be very careful not to be caught cheating - that's the main issue.

Without cheats:  choose the wife work at days, and the husband work at nights - two different carrers. They will have different days-off, so you can fulfill their romantic wishes.

If you don't want them to cheat too much - you can send them to same job (preferable slackers). They can't bring friends home from work, and they always come with the main wish - "woohoo", no matter with whom.... When they have days off together, you can invite the lover to the community; take care that the clothes rackes are in a room with door, thus you won't be disturbed when doing public woohoo.

With cheats/hacks:  The most comfortable situation is, when there is no jelousy. Now you can woohoo in front of your spouse, and she can do it that too - and all are happy....
Download the hack "nojelousyatall" from Mod the Sims 2 (search nojelousyatall).

The second thing you need is  buyable community object in residential houses. You can find it too in MTS2.
The romance sims likes to woohoo in tub, then in bed, or public woohoo. Buy a clothes rack and a booth, and keep them in your yard, close to the bedroom. After work, the spouse can fulfill all 3 wishes, and the husband will be satisfied, and won't ask too much to cheat.

I had whole romance neighbourhood - once I played without cheats, and once - with hacks. I have to say that I enjoyed it much more to play with the hacks....

[gali]

Forgot one important tip:
Always engage and marry the romance sims, in spite of their fear of it. But do it wisely: ambush them to see when the fear of engage/marriage is off (it frequently is off, because of the woohoo wishes, lol), and then hurry and engage them. They will have bad memory, but won't pay aspiration points. Again ambush them, then marry them quickly.

Again ambush them, and try for baby....

By the way, they are awesome parents, and are mad about their kids.

[J. M. Pescado]

Well, I usually don't have any problems engaging Romance sims, because when I engage them, they're usually still knowledge sims.

And when they're Romance sims, they'll still get a green memory if they get married to someone rich. Married Rich Sim trumps Red Marriage Memory.

[Oddysey]

I hope you mean "mad about their kids" in a non-creepy way . . .

Romance sims can generally be quite happy when monogamous, especially if they roll a career related LTW. WooHoo is a powerful want and easy to get if the sim in question lives with their partner.

[J. M. Pescado]

Romance sims can generally be quite happy when monogamous, especially if they roll a career related LTW. WooHoo is a powerful want and easy to get if the sim in question lives with their partner.

You mean for the one day it will take you to GET to that career LTW?

I mean, you already start at L9, which means it takes one promotion, one day of platinum, to get it permanently. After that, their mini-wants become mildly irrelevant given that you have more ASP than you can shake a stick at.

[Liss]

I'm annoyed at the kids of romance sims getting pissed off and trashing the relationship with their parent if the parent hooks up with someone besides their other parent.  Also trashes their relationship with the person the romance sim hooks up with.  Makes me wanna smack the little whiners.

[Oddysey]

Exactly. LTW maxes out the mood bar for the rest of their lives, which basically means that they can do romantic-type stuff whenever they aren't starving to death.

[J. M. Pescado]

I'm annoyed at the kids of romance sims getting pissed off and trashing the relationship with their parent if the parent hooks up with someone besides their other parent.  Also trashes their relationship with the person the romance sim hooks up with.  Makes me wanna smack the little whiners.

The behavior involved here is actually rather incomprehensible and warped my mind trying to even figure it out. We eventually cracked it and wrote it into something more sensible in the Romance mod.

[veilchen]

The behavior involved here is actually rather incomprehensible and warped my mind trying to even figure it out. We eventually cracked it and wrote it into something more sensible in the Romance mod.

Thanks to the romance fix I started letting one or two romance sims hang around the neighborhood (for variety reasons). Before that I had a majority of knowledge sims, one or two popularity sims, a fortune sim or two, and zero family and zero romance sims. I still don't have any family sims, they go on my nerves, and badly.

JM, what is TOS?

G.

[J. M. Pescado]

JM, what is TOS?

A TOS is the official-sounding ninny-nonsense "terms of service" that sites like to have to make them sound big and pompous. They're long, bloated, consist of a great deal of blather, and everyone insists that people read them even though nobody ever really pays that much attention to them because they're so full of legalese that your eyes glaze over before you hit the button and you just nod and hit the "Yes" button.

Naturally, they threaten you with dire consequences of some vaguely specified nature if you violate these terms. But in Soviet Russia, TOS violates YOU!

Naturally, we here don't take such things quite so seriously, so I previously had just left it blank, but Boris suggested that funny tidbit instead. Like I said, nobody really pays much attention to that stuff anyway, so we'll just ban people either completely arbitrarily, or in Senate motions. We'll have fewer problems that way, anyway. At least when people complain I'm a completely arbitrary dictator, I can point out that we knew that from the beginning.

[veilchen]

Naturally, we here don't take such things quite so seriously, so I previously had just left it blank, but Boris suggested that funny tidbit instead. Like I said, nobody really pays much attention to that stuff anyway, so we'll just ban people either completely arbitrarily, or in Senate motions. We'll have fewer problems that way, anyway. At least when people complain I'm a completely arbitrary dictator, I can point out that we knew that from the beginning.

I would not have expected it to be different JM. :D

Aside from that, I rather know who I am dealing with from the outset. I can't stand it when people pretend they are something that they are not. I prefer the "what you see is what you get" person, at least I 'm not left guessing whether I inadvertantly stepped on some toes. That's why I like you, whether you like it or not, as long as you don't expect me to gush. I don't do gush, hero-worship or fanclubs.  ;D

G.

[J. M. Pescado]

The only gushing I prefer is the fountain of blood when I punch you in the face.

[veilchen]

The only gushing I prefer is the fountain of blood when I punch you in the face.

Punch me in the face? I think I prefer getting kicked every now and then. Aside from that, come on and try if you can stand the echo.

[Katze]

The only gushing I prefer is the fountain of blood when I punch you in the face.

Running off and hide my face. No gushing from me.

[veilchen]

The only gushing I prefer is the fountain of blood when I punch you in the face.

Running off and hide my face. No gushing from me.

You can't desert me Katze, you have to stay and aid your compatriot. I'll report you to our government. So there.

G.

[gali]

"I hope you mean "mad about their kids" in a non-creepy way . . ." (Oddyssey)

Of course - I like babies, toddlers, and childs..., even Marsha, lol.

Really, they love their kids more than any other aspiration I know. I even got a romance female who suddenly made a wish to have a baby - I locked it as fast as I could! She never showed a fear from a baby, and I gave her 4 kids.... But she was an exception in my romance neighbourhood.
 
I think the simulator liked this family, because I got the woohoo clip each time they woohooed in the hot tub - only this couple, all the others didn't have a woohoo clip....

When the kids grew to adults, I always saw one wish concerning the kids. Each day I used to invite one or two sons/daughters and keep the relations high (100/100).











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[cwieberdink]

The only gushing I prefer is the fountain of blood when I punch you in the face.

Running off and hide my face. No gushing from me.

You can't desert me Katze, you have to stay and aid your compatriot. I'll report you to our government. So there.

G.

Don't worry veilchen and Katze, JM recommended a lead pipe that goes "KRONG" so I know will protect you with such.  And since I ALWAYS WEAR BODY ARMOR, I should be mostly protected myself.   
Chris

[ZephyrZodiac]

I find the romance sims more fun to play than any of the others.  They make great parents, great aunts or uncles, and fantastic grandparents!  (Even when the baby's parent is actually a step-child!)

I ran a semi-open relationship in a Greek house with four gay male sims (using the romance Mod in the game) where two got fits of jealousy, the other two didn't, a bit like real life, really, I guess!  Just had to make sure the jealous ones weren't around at crtain times, ie at college, in the hot tub, writing termpapers, whatever would keep them busy in another place for long enough.....

[Ancient Sim]

The Romance males in my game are all great parents and grandparents, too.  I have Family Sims who show no interest whatsoever in their grandchildren, not springing-up any wants to do with them at all, whereas all Don Lothario wants is more grandkids, or to see the ones he has get engaged or married.  He rarely has woo-hoo wants anymore and only then if I play my bordello and he happens to pop by for a quickie.  Then again, he has been resurrected, so maybe while he was on the other side he 'saw the light'.

[J. M. Pescado]

I have Family Sims who show no interest whatsoever in their grandchildren, not springing-up any wants to do with them at all, whereas all Don Lothario wants is more grandkids, or to see the ones he has get engaged or married.  He rarely has woo-hoo wants anymore and only then if I play my bordello and he happens to pop by for a quickie.  Then again, he has been resurrected, so maybe while he was on the other side he 'saw the light'.

As a general rule, the more promiscuous the Romance sim was prior to becoming an elder, the more interest he will take in his grandchildren. This occurs because of want pool depletion vs. relative weight. All of the elder-family wants are non-aspirationally-specific, so anyone can get them regardless of aspiration, and tend to be worth more than woohoo. Thus, they tend to trump the mere "woohoo" want, and if a romance sim had a promiscuous adult life, he's exhausted many of his power wants as well, so that leaves only the Elder Wants. Fortune Sims, on the other hand, can never get too many $4500 paintings, and those are of sufficient power to bowl over the elder want trees. However, Knowledge sims get it the worst: Since a knowledge sim will basically have exhausted every single aspirationally-relevant want except "commit suicide" and "see dead people",  an elder knowledge sim who doesn't have permaplat can get very SOL, wanting things from family members that don't live there. or else they'll want to commit suicide. Makes them a real pain in the ass to play because, well, nothing they want involves playing them, but you have to play them in order to maintain time sync and end the story.

[ZephyrZodiac]

I never bother about time-sync.

[Darkstormyeve]

I stress about time sync as my families were all friends in Uni. They each had a handful of kids and so I marry them off to each other, then they have kids or their younger siblings growup to be married off with their peers. So time sync is very important in my game. Messes with my mind when a Sim has grown up, got married and had babies and you know her best friend is still a child.