Choosing Sex of Babies

[caterpillar]

This thread needs to be appended to the "Choose Sex of BAbbies" thread.

I am going to burninate all the apple trees in my 'hood.  The key problem with the "just boys" issue is that the bloody apple trees are obsequious, and one of the first bloody things your sim can grow.  Consequently, everyone has one.  I have yet to even SEE a watermelon in my game.

As much as I love the mental image of obsequious apple trees, I think you mean ubiquitous. 

[Lorelei]

The key problem with the "just boys" issue is that the bloody apple trees are obsequious, and one of the first bloody things your sim can grow.  Consequently, everyone has one.  I have yet to even SEE a watermelon in my game.

I believe I bitched about this issue in the original thread. It should have at least been limes or lettuce, which are available from level 0. Though, in RV, I have not found many harvestables outside of the community garden area.

The "ubiquitous / obsequious" thing has been noted. I knew that you meant, though.

An obsequious apple tree is probably related to Shel Silverstein's Giving Tree. (I didn't own or read the book as a 0 or 6, so I'm just guessing the author name; my memory is not that great today. I blame the bug bombs.)

[jolrei]

This thread needs to be appended to the "Choose Sex of BAbbies" thread.

I am going to burninate all the apple trees in my 'hood.  The key problem with the "just boys" issue is that the bloody apple trees are obsequious, and one of the first bloody things your sim can grow.  Consequently, everyone has one.  I have yet to even SEE a watermelon in my game.

As much as I love the mental image of obsequious apple trees, I think you mean ubiquitous. 

Quite so.  Thank you.  I have tried to correct my earlier phrase in a manner that preserves the image you mention.

[ramseyazad]

 Is there something to the way the sims choose which fruit to use in cooking that compounds the obsequious-ness of apples in food?  Do they always  make apple pancakes because apple starts with a and eating the things out of your fridge alphabetically somehow makes evil-random sense?

[dramamine]

I have yet to even SEE a watermelon in my game.

Not sure what map you're playing, but in SV there is a tiny beach cove area near a really nice white colored home that has some watermelon vines which occasionally come to harvest status. I frequent the area for bugs, fish, and gems. Not sure if you were deliberately looking for watermelons, but I'd figure I'd mention it.

[kemowery]

Yes. Search the forum. Search is your friend.

I looked at all the thread titles and didn't see one that looked like it addressed gender of babby.  My apologies.

[cassblonde]

http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15067.0.html

[caterpillar]

I have yet to even SEE a watermelon in my game.

Not sure what map you're playing, but in SV there is a tiny beach cove area near a really nice white colored home that has some watermelon vines which occasionally come to harvest status. I frequent the area for bugs, fish, and gems. Not sure if you were deliberately looking for watermelons, but I'd figure I'd mention it.

There is also a watermelon vine behind the SV Science Facility, in the little garden in back.

[Zazazu]

In Riverview, there are watermelons in the community garden, as well as in the farm houses on the edges of the neighborhood (playable households).

[jolrei]

All this, naturally, depends on whether my sim ever gets past first base with any female sim, which seems an unlikely prospect in the near future, considering the way he lives his life.  He has no social wants apart from being good friends with witch.  On the other hand, I think witch is angling for Trepie, considering the way she alternately flirts with and insults him.  Maybe they'll spawn and I'll switch playable status to them when my sim dies alone and childless.

[Tsarina]

Since I didn't have the option to give my sims a double-Y chromosome, I have to assume it's something I can't see.  Is this just a freak of sadorandomness?

Just for the record, no one has few people have double Y chromosomes. Typically, males have XY and females XX.

Edited for MOAR correctness.

[J. M. Pescado]

Well, technically, there are freaks of nature that can end up with abnormal chromosome arrangements, but those people are basically fucked up by it.

[Tsarina]

I just looked it up. Apparently, in the case of XYY, it's not a further upfuckation than increased chance of having a learning disability.

[blackjackii]

Do they always  make apple pancakes because apple starts with a and eating the things out of your fridge alphabetically somehow makes evil-random sense?

No they can make grape pancakes too.  I just buy a bunch of the fruit of choice, put it in the pregnant Sims's inventory, and allow her to eat nothing else but that fruit from her inventory through her entire pregnancy.  Except if I'm going for a boy, I will allow her apple pancakes - but that's about when she'll make GRAPE pancakes instead.  I just do the watermelon or apples in the inventory method and it hasn't failed me yet.

[J. M. Pescado]

I just looked it up. Apparently, in the case of XYY, it's not a further upfuckation than increased chance of having a learning disability.

Probably because the Y chromosome doesn't do a whole lot, being that it is small and shrivelled and contains very little information.

[Marhis]

Yep; Y chromosome lacks of vital parts, thus needs to be backed up by at least 1 X chromosome. Embryos with YY or Y0 never go past the very first part of the pregnancy and are always miscarried.

[Madame Mim]

OK, totally off topic, but how would you get an embryo without an X component anyway. I thought all fertile females were XX and therefor the eggs must be X and all embryo's have an X component?

[J. M. Pescado]

Genetic malfunctions, basically. It's not supposed to ever happen, but biological processes are complicated and prone to errors, and sometimes things just go horribly wrong.

[SolaceDevotio]

OK, totally off topic, but how would you get an embryo without an X component anyway. I thought all fertile females were XX and therefor the eggs must be X and all embryo's have an X component?

Sometimes you make a bad egg with no x in it at all.  Daddy's spermy may have a y in it, in which case the baby never makes it, ever.  If daddy's spermy has an x, then you get Turner's syndrome with a baby who has a webbed neck and will be sterile.

[Euphemism]

Do they always  make apple pancakes because apple starts with a and eating the things out of your fridge alphabetically somehow makes evil-random sense?

No they can make grape pancakes too.  I just buy a bunch of the fruit of choice, put it in the pregnant Sims's inventory, and allow her to eat nothing else but that fruit from her inventory through her entire pregnancy.  Except if I'm going for a boy, I will allow her apple pancakes - but that's about when she'll make GRAPE pancakes instead.  I just do the watermelon or apples in the inventory method and it hasn't failed me yet.

That is because when cooking, Sims chose the ingredients in their inventory first, then fridge ingredients. So, say you had a bunch of apples & watermelon in your fridge. You want a girl, so you drag watermelon into her inventory. When she cooks, if applicable, she will use the watermelon. If she has apples in her inventory, drag them out.

Edited for typo.

[maxon]

So if every sim and her dog can grow apples but watermelons have to be sought out, what does this do for the gender ratio in a neighbourhood where you make no attempt to control things?  It seems to me, if you play without knowing this information, given the ubiquity of apples (as Jolrei pointed out, though not quite in those words), aren't we going to get a sort of China Syndrome where there are more male babies born than female?  If you ask me, this is offensive to feminists.  OTOH, I got bored with the game and am not playing, so apologies if my information is wrong because of my lack of experience.

[Gus Smedstad]

So if every sim and her dog can grow apples but watermelons have to be sought out, what does this do for the gender ratio in a neighbourhood where you make no attempt to control things?

I'm unclear why this particular bit has gone uncorrected for so long in this thread.  You can buy watermelons in the store, they're not difficult to obtain.  Sure, you get apple seeds for free when you reach Gardening 1, but buying or growing watermelons is hardly difficult.

A slightly more significant issue is that the best breakfast, French Toast, contains apples and doesn't advertise it.  If you're the sort of player who finds eating lobster for breakfast inappropriate, it's not hard to end up with only male offspring if you're not paying attention.
 
 - Gus

[Marhis]

When I wanted a female sprog I made the pregnant sim eat nothing else but what she had in inventory, which incidentally was watermelons. It's not hard at all: keep feeding the preggo so she never happens to be that hungry she raids the fridge, and you're set.

[Mandapotpie]

So if every sim and her dog can grow apples but watermelons have to be sought out, what does this do for the gender ratio in a neighbourhood where you make no attempt to control things?

I'm unclear why this particular bit has gone uncorrected for so long in this thread.  You can buy watermelons in the store, they're not difficult to obtain.  Sure, you get apple seeds for free when you reach Gardening 1, but buying or growing watermelons is hardly difficult.

A slightly more significant issue is that the best breakfast, French Toast, contains apples and doesn't advertise it.  If you're the sort of player who finds eating lobster for breakfast inappropriate, it's not hard to end up with only male offspring if you're not paying attention.
 
 - Gus

Huh, did you have apples in your inventory when you made the waffles? I have been wondering about that but haven't gone back in to test that. Whenever I direct someone to make pancakes, they make apple pancakes and I *think* it uses an apple out of their inventory. I have been meaning to check and see if they don't have an apple in inventory or the fridge if they will just make pancakes.

[Gus Smedstad]

A slightly more significant issue is that the best breakfast, French Toast, contains apples and doesn't advertise it. 

Huh, did you have apples in your inventory when you made the waffles?

How did "French Toast" become "Waffles?"  French toast, unlike pancakes and cobbler, won't take just any fruit.  It requires 2 apples and 1 egg.  The "use ingredients from inventory first" rule is irrelevant, French Toast always contains apples.

 - Gus