Razor1911 release vs. Reloaded release

[VeilSethekk]

So... Does the Razor version have any new content or clothing?

Reports have been saying that there's nothing significantly different about the Razor version versus the Reloaded one, except the version number and perhaps a few more or less bugs, assuming EAxis bothered to do anything about them between those two builds.

So no new objects, no new clothing, still no word on the 2nd neighborhood...

[JonaBullets]

I'm currently downloading Razor version, not only cause it looks like newer version, but cause I like to hoard ISOs. Can some one confirm or advise, what the difference is between the two?
Is there more clothes, objects etc, or is it more just error report fixes/more back end related?

[TashaYarrr]

Patch is a standalone patcher:

Sims3_1.0.632.00002_from_1.0.631.00002.exe   10,720,392   05/25/2009 19:40

That's 10mb or so.

I did just notice something new in my game: I actually had neighbors show up and greet my Sim after move-in. This is the first time in about six test households (and additional movings) that this has happened, on my first new hood/Sim after installing and patching razor.. Not sure if this is related, probably not.

[rufio]

Ugh, I'm really not sure it's worth redownloading the whole thing at this point.  I did manage to free up more space on my main drive, but still.  

[mandababy]

Patch is a standalone patcher:

Sims3_1.0.632.00002_from_1.0.631.00002.exe   10,720,392   05/25/2009 19:40

That's 10mb or so.

I did just notice something new in my game: I actually had neighbors show up and greet my Sim after move-in. This is the first time in about six test households (and additional movings) that this has happened, on my first new hood/Sim after installing and patching razor.. Not sure if this is related, probably not.

That happened in my game once from the previous version, so I don't think thats new in this build. But it did only happen once, I thought it was strange that it only happened once, and not before or after. But I thought it was because they actually had neighbors! Previously the houses I had lived in were up away from the town, so I figured it was simply because they actually had neighbors next to them and thats why they came.

[coltraz]

Where are you guys getting the patch? Just so I'm clear. As far as I know, I'm getting it here: http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/sims/sims3/patches/Sims3_1.0.632.00107_from_1.0.631.00107.exe

Correct?

[Zazazu]

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4913395/The_Sims_3_-_Razor1911
Seems to be a torrent. Definitely needs more seeders. I'm going to DL this (hate Rapidshare part files) and stick around for a bit to seed.

[Trickster]

Even no-account-rapidshare should be faster than torrents.

[coltraz]

Ugh, I'm really not sure it's worth redownloading the whole thing at this point.  I did manage to free up more space on my main drive, but still.   

So far there isn't a lot of information on whether it is worth it or isn't worth it, so I'd just wait it out if I were you.

If I were torrenting (rather than getting it off usenet) I'd need more solid data on what's different about the 2 releases.

Oh, and I've never had Sims come greet me when I move in. Interesting.

[J. M. Pescado]

Real game is 631. If Razor's is 631, it is real, QED.

[JonaBullets]

Real game is 631. If Razor's is 631, it is real, QED.

Score!!! does it have anything more to it? or is that EAxis crap we got in the first one all we get in the "real" ?

[rufio]

Zazazu:

Well, there is this on mininova, with a whole 12 seeders, but given how long it took to download the last time I'm not real excited about it.

Coltraz, as I understand it, if you want to be able to install official patches you need the new version, and there may be mods that only work with the new version as well.  If I were planning on playing TS3 long-term I would probably torrent it, but I'm not.

[Zazazu]

Even no-account-rapidshare should be faster than torrents.

Torrent delivery time is 8hrs 17 min from start of download. Should be a bit less, because things go faster in the wee hours of teh morning...I usually notice that real download time is about 80% of first estimate. Rapidshare file is in 26 parts. Each part has a 3 min waiting period before download starts. Approximate download time is 13 minutes (plus 3 minute waiting = 16 minutes). 26 parts * 16 min/each = almost exactly 7hrs. 80% of current torrent estimate is 6.6hrs. Add to that the fact that Rapidshare likes to crap out and say you can't download for another hour, plus requires more finangling on my part, and torrent always wins for me.

ETA: and 5 seconds later, I'm getting estimated download of 3hrs 52 minutes.

[Krippakrull]

Where are you guys getting the patch? Just so I'm clear. As far as I know, I'm getting it here: http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/sims/sims3/patches/Sims3_1.0.632.00107_from_1.0.631.00107.exe

Correct?

That might be for the US version since that one ends with a 7. Razor release is worldwide version and ends with a 2. I got mine here: http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/sims/sims3/patches/Sims3_1.0.632.00002_from_1.0.631.00002.exe

[JonaBullets]

Even no-account-rapidshare should be faster than torrents.

Unless you have a private tozza account, I'm pulling it off mine,, and max speeds, mind you Australia speeds are shit all compared to everywhere else. LULZ!

[Trickster]

Even no-account-rapidshare should be faster than torrents.

Torrent delivery time is 8hrs 17 min from start of download. Should be a bit less, because things go faster in the wee hours of teh morning...I usually notice that real download time is about 80% of first estimate. Rapidshare file is in 26 parts. Each part has a 3 min waiting period before download starts. Approximate download time is 13 minutes (plus 3 minute waiting = 16 minutes). 26 parts * 16 min/each = almost exactly 7hrs. 80% of current torrent estimate is 6.6hrs. Add to that the fact that Rapidshare likes to crap out and say you can't download for another hour, plus requires more finangling on my part, and torrent always wins for me.

Thats what reconnect-thingies are for ;-)

Even no-account-rapidshare should be faster than torrents.

Unless you have a private tozza account, I'm pulling it off mine,, and max speeds, mind you Australia speeds are shit all compared to everywhere else. LULZ!

Yeah, had my first version in 1 hour and 15 minutes. Although extracting took about another half an hour (damd double packaging).

[J. M. Pescado]

Score!!! does it have anything more to it? or is that EAxis crap we got in the first one all we get in the "real" ?

Beats me. I'd have to actually get it first. Despite how Awesome I am, I am not magic.

[Judhudson]

Where are you guys getting the patch? Just so I'm clear. As far as I know, I'm getting it here: http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/sims/sims3/patches/Sims3_1.0.632.00107_from_1.0.631.00107.exe

Correct?

That might be for the US version since that one ends with a 7. Razor release is worldwide version and ends with a 2. I got mine here: http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/sims/sims3/patches/Sims3_1.0.632.00002_from_1.0.631.00002.exe

Strange...The one that ends with .00002 is only 10mb, but the one with the .00107 ending is 17mb.  I suppose it's even a newer patch?  Or does the ending reflect only the game's region?

[griz]

I did just notice something new in my game: I actually had neighbors show up and greet my Sim after move-in. This is the first time in about six test households (and additional movings) that this has happened, on my first new hood/Sim after installing and patching razor.. Not sure if this is related, probably not.

I had neighbors visit my first family and a few of the later ones with RLD release, but it usually didn't happen.

So no new objects, no new clothing, still no word on the 2nd neighborhood...

didn't they announce some time ago that the 2nd neighborhood would be downloadable for registered users a few weeks after launch?

[Krippakrull]

Strange...The one that ends with .00002 is only 10mb, but the one with the .00107 ending is 17mb.  I suppose it's even a newer patch?  Or does the ending reflect only the game's region?

The last number denotes region AFAIK, but the fact that the patch is 107 instead of 007 might mean it's a newer version, not sure though.

[Hitch]

Speaking 100% out of my ass, with no real knowledge at all on the subject...

From the sound of the second downloadable neighborhood, they're going to make you download half the game from a website that can only be accessed by registering with the CD key on the back of the highly misleading instruction booklet. So, in theory, you have to buy the game to get all the stuff. (At least in their mind.) Of course, if that's the case, it won't be long before someone figures out how to Arrrr all of the extra content and make it available to the general "we don't want no rootkit" public.

[lemmiwinks]

Found the following on Usenet just now. Dunno if it is important.
nfo file for an 8.5 meg rar in alt.binaries.cores

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 ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
 │                         Razor 1911 proudly presents:                       │
 │                             The Sims 3 Crackfix                            │
 │                             (C) Electronic Arts                            │
 ├────────────────────────────────────┬───────────────────────────────────────┤
 │ Date: 2009-05-25                   │ Game Type : Simulation                │
 │ Size: Small                        │ Protection: DVD-Check, Serial         │
 └────────────────────────────────────┴───────────────────────────────────────┘

 Game Notes
 ~~~~~~~~~~
 The   freedom   of  The  Sims  3  will  inspire  you  with  endless  creative
 possibilities   and  amuse  you  with  unexpected  moments  of  surprise  and
 mischief!  Create  over  a  million  unique  Sims  and  control  their lives.
 Customize  everything from their appearances, to their personalities and even
 the  home  of their dreams. Then, send your Sims out to explore new locations
 around  town  and  to  meet  other  Sims  in  the  neighborhood. Go online to
 download  exclusive  content  and  show  off your own creations to the world.
 With  all-new  quick challenges and rewarding game play, The Sims 3 gives you
 the  freedom  to choose whether (or not!) to fulfill your SimsÆ destinies and
 make their wishes come true.

 Note:
 ~~~~~
 We missed some ingame dvd checks. Here is the fix. Enjoy!
 
 For the guys who nuked us:
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 The EA updater dont works with Releoaded release because
 the updater is only working for Sims 3 version start from 1.0.631.00001.
 Reloaded is 1.0.615.00107 and not final
 
 http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/sims/sims3/patches/sims3_sku2_update_manifest.xml
 
 
 
 Install Notes
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 1. Extract RAR
 2. Copy crack to <InstallDir>\Game\Bin
 3. Have Fun!
 
 
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[TashaYarrr]

lemmiwinks: yeah, that is razor's cracked exe, they just packaged it separately.

The 00107 patch will not apply to this version, states wrong region.

[Sigmund]

Help Please In Post Aove! Thanks! 

There is a separate thread for downloading, installing, and running the game.

From the sound of the second downloadable neighborhood, they're going to make you download half the game from a website that can only be accessed by registering with the CD key on the back of the highly misleading instruction booklet. So, in theory, you have to buy the game to get all the stuff.

That makes the most sense, and explains the double speak used earlier in the AP news article. If it is only part of the game, it's because EA wants us to download the rest from them. Personally, I fail to see why a second neighborhood is supposed to lure anybody in when they've got such a limited selection of buy mode objects anyway. Why do I need a second neighborhood if everybody is using the same furniture with different textures?

[coltraz]

Hmm... Now I don't know which patch to go for! I guess I'll use the one you used, Krippakrull ... unless the razor version is US and needs the one I linked to. Blah!