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Liss
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choose sex of baby hack? (pretty please)?
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2005 July 26, 23:18:49 »
Is there a hack to choose a baby's sex? Or can you make one? hehe
I'm having a fairly good time with a 'hood of my real family, and would like the babies to be the right sex...getting tired of exiting without saving, and kicking myself in the head for leaving the game running with a pregnant sim while I went to get my daughter ice cream.
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Diala
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Re: choose sex of baby hack? (pretty please)?
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2005 July 27, 00:01:28 »
I would really like this. While it isn't an absolute necessity, it DOES get annoying restarting a lot over and over because I want my Sim to have a male baby.
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Re: choose sex of baby hack? (pretty please)?
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2005 July 27, 02:10:33 »
Quote from: Diala on 2005 July 27, 00:01:28
I would really like this. While it isn't an absolute necessity, it DOES get annoying restarting a lot over and over because I want my Sim to have a male baby.
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Re: choose sex of baby hack? (pretty please)?
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2005 July 27, 02:23:43 »
Nope, this doesn't appear to be possible at all: The game has stubbornly resisted every attempt at changing this to date. In fact, it seems sadistically written to disallow this, as while the Make Character primitive DOES accept a gender-control argument, if told to make a baby from two sims, it will completely disregard this for no particularly sensible reason.
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Liss
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Re: choose sex of baby hack? (pretty please)?
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2005 July 27, 02:32:29 »
bah! thx for the reply
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Re: choose sex of baby hack? (pretty please)?
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2005 July 27, 02:53:16 »
Next best thing is the Lot Debugger. Just save when sim goes into labor and then if you don't like what gender the baby is, just run it and it will leave w/o saving. Also helps all the kids from looking alike.
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Liss
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Re: choose sex of baby hack? (pretty please)?
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2005 July 27, 03:43:03 »
Run which command on the lot debugger? I have some new hacks and not sure what's what anymore. (They are all JMP's though).
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Re: choose sex of baby hack? (pretty please)?
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2005 July 27, 05:26:19 »
I'm guessing it's the "randomize firstborn" command, or whatever it's called. The one that prevents all the first babies from being the first entry on some random table that isn't really all that random.
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J. M. Pescado
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Re: choose sex of baby hack? (pretty please)?
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2005 July 27, 08:09:57 »
The baby is only generated at birth. Twins are decided at conception, but the actual baby's attributes, gender, etc. are completely decided at birth, and you only need to save before the baby pops. The lot debugger's "randomize" function can be useful in defeating determinism in the random number generator.
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chintznibbles
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Re: choose sex of baby hack? (pretty please)?
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2005 July 27, 10:24:33 »
Oops. I guess I'll stop giving advice on things I'm not sure of.
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J. M. Pescado
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Re: choose sex of baby hack? (pretty please)?
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2005 July 27, 10:26:27 »
Silly Chintznibbles.
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Liss
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Re: choose sex of baby hack? (pretty please)?
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2005 July 27, 17:31:24 »
cool I'll have to try that.
I had a sim that I tried an unorthodox experiment on, I had her have clone babies. (used the tombsone of L&D to make herself pregnant with...herself). No matter how many times I did it, it was always BOYS. She ended up with 4 more kids this way, all boys. I tried the exit without saving method each time, like 10 times or so (no, I really don't have anything better to do with my time). Next time I'll use the box and see if it changes. I was wondering if the fact that the babies were cloned (being pregnant with herself) had anything to do with the fact that they were all boys, but theoretically it's random so *shrug*
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J. M. Pescado
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2005 July 27, 17:40:36 »
That is not random. If you self-pollinate a sim with itself, the resulting outcome will always be the opposite gender. No randomness here. The logic of *WHY* this was done this way eludes me, but that's how it is.
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Re: choose sex of baby hack? (pretty please)?
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2005 July 27, 18:15:16 »
The reason why being pregnant with youself results in an opposite gendered baby is probably because the game, when creating a Sim, creates a version for both genders, as I understand. So, in this situation, the game is just using the leftover version of the original Sim. That's a theory, anyway.
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2005 July 27, 18:39:47 »
No, that's nonsense. It's not using your original sim for anything at all, other than the genetics contribution: If your sim has recessive traits, you may not even get a true clone. As far as I can tell, it's completely arbitrary and hamfisted, much like the way the Make Character primitive forcibly ignores the gender-control argument, for no really obvious reason.
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2005 July 27, 19:05:29 »
I didn't figure I was right about the baby thing, but the game does create both genders for any given Sim. But, whatever.
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2005 July 27, 19:08:51 »
I'm not sure what you mean by "it creates both genders for any given sim". The expression of a facial form based on the genetic factors is an algorithm. I don't recall seeing the game generating unused resources for a sim in such a manner that the generated head is stored for both. However, you can flip a sim's gender, causing it to re-process its face in CAS, if you want, but this is an algorithmic procedure.
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Re: choose sex of baby hack? (pretty please)?
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2005 July 27, 21:25:54 »
I know I read somewhere that when the game creates a Sim, each age group for each gender is created. I wish I could find where I read that (it was when the game first came out). Maybe I'll find it.
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Re: choose sex of baby hack? (pretty please)?
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2005 July 27, 21:34:28 »
I'm pretty sure that's nonsense. Otherwise you'd be able to plan a sim's entire outfit for all ages right there during CAS. But you can't. The faces are procedurally generated.
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Liss
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Re: choose sex of baby hack? (pretty please)?
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2005 July 27, 22:23:44 »
Hmmmm. Ok I guess that makes sense (in a Maxian way anyway). The sim I was trying to clone was a CAS sim, so if I impregnate one of her (clone) sons the same way, I would end up with a clone of her right? This is what I was trying to do in the first place, she was getting old and has like 11 kids now, but she was (in my opinion) the best looking sim I ever made, and I don't have the original in body shop anymore. The only DNA they have is hers, no recessive genes.
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Re: choose sex of baby hack? (pretty please)?
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2005 July 27, 22:50:13 »
Can't you export her into body-shop and age her backward? You know, make an adult out of her in there? I thought that was possible. Of-course, someone more versed with SimPe might be able to tell you how to do that in the program (SimPe) itself.
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2005 July 27, 23:10:55 »
You can export existing sims into bodyshop? I asked about that before (somewhere else) and we couldn't figure out how to do that. At any rate, my computer doesn't seem to want to open bodyshop anymore. That is an entirely different problem I have LOL...anyone have any idea how to fix it without reinstall?
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Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2005 July 27, 19:08:51
I'm not sure what you mean by "it creates both genders for any given sim". The expression of a facial form based on the genetic factors is an algorithm. I don't recall seeing the game generating unused resources for a sim in such a manner that the generated head is stored for both. However, you can flip a sim's gender, causing it to re-process its face in CAS, if you want, but this is an algorithmic procedure.
So if I took one of the boy-clones, and changed it's gender in SimPE, it would make it a girl? I thought about this but was scared to do it. Will it mess anything up if I do? Or do you mean just in CAS?
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Quote from: Liss on 2005 July 27, 23:10:55
You can export existing sims into bodyshop? I asked about that before (somewhere else) and we couldn't figure out how to do that. At any rate, my computer doesn't seem to want to open bodyshop anymore. That is an entirely different problem I have LOL...anyone have any idea how to fix it without reinstall?
Exporting via SimPe is quite easy. Open the neighborhood, then open SimSurgery. Select the sim you want to export and plop her/him into the top part of the surgery window by clicking "use". Then just click on "export" and you sim should be in CAS (and in the BodyShop).
I have issues with the stupid bodyshop myself. Everytime I want to use it, I have to take my SavedSims folder out of the MyDocuments/EAGames/etc/etc. and put in on my Desktop. I then create a new, empty, SavedSims folder in the EAGames-folder. Only then does BodyShop open up. I then proceed to take the newly created sims out of the newly created folder and putting them with the others into the folder on my Desktop. I delete the now empty folder, and move the one from my Desktop back into the game. A long and boring proceedure, I know. I'm sure there are shorter ones, but I'm kind of paranoid about the whole game and figure, better safe than sorry, no?
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Re: choose sex of baby hack? (pretty please)?
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2005 July 27, 23:50:59 »
darn it, thought that might work but I tried it and it still won't open. Thanks for the suggestion though
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