Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.

[Inge]

Ominous sign.   

Probably means another SimPE update needed too.

[Emma]

Oh, that is weird. How do you know, is it out yet?

[Simsample]

In the pre-release promo video, there was a shot of someone sliding down a bannister. I wonder if it is a 'super' stuff pack with new anims?

[Milhouse Trixibelle Saltfucker III]

You fool, never trust trailers! They are explicitly designed to hype you up, and you will inevitably be disappointed! Have you ever seen any child in TS2 swing from a ceiling fan? I THINK NOT!

[Emma]

There are no ceiling fans!

[Liz]

There are no ceiling fans!

Details, details...

Wait, but there are ceiling fans in this new L&P, so we're halfway there, right? Feh, I still want my fire-breathing toddlers, cross-dressing butlers, and bodice-ripping animations.

[jolrei]

If the kids can swing from the ceiling fans, I want!  Otherwise, meh.

[Annette]

Bugger. Now we have to wait for a new no cd crack. Not that I have the game, yet but still. I wonder why they have done that.

[Cerridwen]

This is what I've found so far.  

The ceiling fans spin.  There are two speed options. After you turn it on, then the menu changes to an option to "increase speed" or some such. If you choose that then the menu changes to "reduce speed" or some such wording.  You can see a slight change of speed rotation.  

There is also a new menu option added to all flowers.  Your sims now have an option to "smell" the flowers.  They get down and sniff them.  It seems to increase fun, however i did not notice the nature hobby symbol so I'm not sure if the
sim gets a nature enthusiasm boost or not.  

There is also a windmill and solar panels that according to the SP's manual "lower your Sims bills" and "save Simolions" but I have not yet tested that to see if it's true or just L&P.

Not enough new plants IMO wanted MOAR.  Tons of new walls, no new floors.   The new hair styles are OK. They are almost all Child through Elder with a couple exceptions. New terrain paints to give your yards a freshly mowed look.  

My big disapointment was the staircase. It is only one huge double staircase with a larger than normal foot print.  Very limited use for me.  I was really hoping it would be two so you could only use half of it for smaller houses.  

Will update if I find anything else of interest.    

[Marhis]

however i did not notice the nature hobby symbol so I'm not sure if the
sim gets a nature enthusiasm boost or not.  

I bet they don't, because they forget to add FT code to them (never let programmers, working on some part of the game, know what other programmer teams are doing)

There is also a windmill and solar panels that according to the SP's manual "lower your Sims bills" and "save Simolions" but I have not yet tested that to see if it's true or just L&P.

2° bet: they will pay 10§ less at the mailbox. HOORAY!!!11

My big disapointment was the staircase. It is only one huge double staircase with a larger than normal foot print.  Very limited use for me.  I was really hoping it would be two so you could only use half of it for smaller houses.

Hey, hey! It's Mansions & Gardens, isn't it? You'll have a HUGE mansion with a HUGE hall with a HUGE staircase in the middle, so your sims will pass the whole afternoon walking from the mailbox to the endtable on the fifth floor* to drop their cheaper bills. See how all this makes a lot of sense?
Oh, and the staircase will allow only one sim at once, while the others will wave their arms downstairs in frustration.

I'm disappointed that there is no giant butler statue shipped with all that stuff; it would be classy.




* They fixed that bug, didn't they?

[Richief]

There is also a new menu option added to all flowers.  Your sims now have an option to "smell" the flowers.  They get down and sniff them.  It seems to increase fun, however i did not notice the nature hobby symbol so I'm not sure if the
sim gets a nature enthusiasm boost or not.  

There is also a windmill and solar panels that according to the SP's manual "lower your Sims bills" and "save Simolions" but I have not yet tested that to see if it's true or just L&P.

Anyone with the newest L&P can send me the new flower interaction? I'll fix the no hobby enthusiasm problem, if it is required. I aslo want to check the solar panel and windmill's BHAV (I may be able to tell if they do lower bills), thanks in advance.

[J. M. Pescado]

Send an objects.package and I'll feed it through hackdiff and check for the obvious reborks.

[Cerridwen]

I would be happy to send packages if someone would give a brief how to explaination. 

Or is it just uploading the c/eagames/M&P/Tsdata/ ect. objects and objectscript package?

[J. M. Pescado]

Deposit "objects.package" by anonftp to ftp.kludgemush.com. You're supposed to be smart, so figure it out.

[Cerridwen]

I think I figured it out. 

[J. M. Pescado]

Now go! And kill gruesomely in my name!

[Simsample]

You fool, never trust trailers! They are explicitly designed to hype you up, and you will inevitably be disappointed! Have you ever seen any child in TS2 swing from a ceiling fan? I THINK NOT!

Someone has reported that they had a child slide down the bannister autonomously; but that they couldn't click to make them do it. Maybe I should ask about the ceiling fans! 

[Cerridwen]

There are also new build mode additions.  There is an architecture button now in build mode that lists all of the decorative architecture items.  It includes the venting and piping and roofing items from Free Time as well.

Also under the roofing there is an new tool to set the angle of roofs so the individualroofslopeangle cheat is no longer necessary.  It can be done with a simple slider to set the number of the angle and then click on the roof you want to change. 

[fway]

Roof angle chooser? Hell yeah!

Alright, for those of you who have it now, can the new planters go on the tables? If not... you all know what I shall be doing when I get it.

[vecki]

Also under the roofing there is an new tool to set the angle of roofs so the individualroofslopeangle cheat is no longer necessary.  It can be done with a simple slider to set the number of the angle and then click on the roof you want to change. 

GAH!  WANT!  Except I am anti-Stuff Pack.  I can has dilemma?

[toad]

Just think of it as an EP

[Bugger]

Also under the roofing there is an new tool to set the angle of roofs so the individualroofslopeangle cheat is no longer necessary.  It can be done with a simple slider to set the number of the angle and then click on the roof you want to change. 

GAH!  WANT!  Except I am anti-Stuff Pack.  I can has dilemma?

You can haz arring skills?

[Cerridwen]

There is also a new menu option added to all flowers.  Your sims now have an option to "smell" the flowers.  They get down and sniff them.  It seems to increase fun, however i did not notice the nature hobby symbol so I'm not sure if the
sim gets a nature enthusiasm boost or not.  
 

OK I was wrong - I am now seeing the nature hobby ++ symbol when they sniff flowers, so this seems to be working.

As for the planters - the small cacti planter is able to go on tables and counters. The larger planters, the potted perennials and potted coleus, are not.  The large Moroccan plant and the phallus flower plant are end table size themselves.

[Yaakovashoshana]

There are no ceiling fans!

This pack has ceiling fans.

[Inge]

ikanhazindividualroofslopesliders!!!!!!!11111onetyone