Sim wants to fall in love with her husband's alien son

[ZephyrZodiac]

Be glad you're not royalty!

Oddest case I remember reading about was a man who had a son, and they lived in the south of Italy somewhere.  The son moved up North (i don't know why) and met his half-sister ( it seems Dad had had a brief affair) fell in love and the bride and groom were virtually at the alter  steps when dad arrived to put a stop to the wedding!

[Dark Trepie]

You can hear all sorts of opinions on this.  The one I've heard the most is that 3rd (or was it 4th?) cousins are so genetically different that they don't really count as reletives anymore.

Get together with your 1st or 2nd cousin however and you run the risk of having a baby with nine heads!     (forget where I heard that one from)

[buddha pest]

I did have one incident where I got confused and one of my sims had a little relationship going on with their 2nd cousin.  When I realize what I had done I was slightly disgusted with myself lol  But in my defense the 'hood was getting huge and I was losing track of everybody...who was related to who and what not..especially when their were some babies being born out of wedlock and what not heh.

with the NL autonomous romance interactions, this is starting to happen in my neighborhoods by itself.

i guess as the generations go on autonomous incest will get more and more inevitable.

weird/gross/funny

[ZephyrZodiac]

From how I understand it, my first cousin is my aunt/uncle's child, my second cousin is my mother/father's first cousin (and therefore close to being an uncle or aunt) and their children are second cousins once removed.

Therefore, if my second cousin is my mother's cousin, they will share two grandparents.   My second cousins once removed will share two great-grandparents with me, but only one grandparent, but they are still genetically fairly closely relatied, although I believe you don't need a dispensation from the Pople to marry your second cousin if you are a Catholic, only a first cousin.

[Regina]

I'm figuring that in the US alone there's got to be something like at least one-fifth of the population who descended from the same 5x-great-grandfather I did, and if they got to looking into their family background, which did descend from royalty (in this case one of the ancestors was William the Conqueror), it gets very weird in there.  In the old country, you'd look at the family line that was started by a couple, follow it down for two or three generations, and then end up with some descendent of that couple marrying another of their descendents.  By the time they did marry back in they were around fourth cousins.  I realize, of course, there wasn't as large of a genetic base back then as there is now from which to choose a marriage partner and keeping royal families royal was and still is a real trick.

One thing I've always thought odd in TS2 is that I'll have a sim who recognizes another sim as their relative, but the recognition doesn't go both ways.  So far I've seen this mostly with in-laws, whereby the d-i-l would recognize her f-i-l as a relative, but he didn't recognize her as a relative and would roll up a want to flirt.  I've thought about trying it out to see what happened but haven't got brave enough yet. LOL

[gali]

Instead of making them relatives (parent and son), just reduce with the SimPe their relationship to -10 (minus 10). It helpes too.

[rohina]

I noticed the uneven relationship thing with one of my families that had the alien child. The human stepmother (you know, the one whose husband had the alien baby) was a romance sim, and once the alien child was a YA at Uni she rolled wants to flirt with him. However, she couldn't ACT on the wants - flirt never came up as a possibility in her interactions with him, and he couldn't flirt with her. I thought it was pretty funny at the time, actually. Like, she was all "oooh I have forbidden desires" in her slutty romance way.

[Oddysey]

I noticed the uneven relationship thing with one of my families that had the alien child. The human stepmother (you know, the one whose husband had the alien baby) was a romance sim, and once the alien child was a YA at Uni she rolled wants to flirt with him. However, she couldn't ACT on the wants - flirt never came up as a possibility in her interactions with him, and he couldn't flirt with her. I thought it was pretty funny at the time, actually. Like, she was all "oooh I have forbidden desires" in her slutty romance way.

It's not a bug, it's a feature!

The family dynamics of aliens are always interesting.

[ZephyrZodiac]

I think that's related to a problem I had with a couple of gay teens who wanted their parents to get together.  So the mum of one and the father of the other met and fell for each other and moved in together.  Everything was fine between the kids until the parents got married!  Then, suddenly, they were getting all the flirt wants, but could only give friendly hugs and family kisses!  So, when they grew up, they moved in together, relationship 100/100, both had the pink and red heart, but they still couldn't do anything but hug!  I didn't have SimPE back then, and I had to get the parents to break up so they would no longer see each other as brothers!  Once they got their relationship going, the parents were able to fall in love and get married again!

[ari_]

Oddest case I remember reading about was a man who had a son, and they lived in the south of Italy somewhere.  The son moved up North (i don't know why) and met his half-sister ( it seems Dad had had a brief affair) fell in love and the bride and groom were virtually at the alter  steps when dad arrived to put a stop to the wedding!

I remember about 10 or 15 years ago, there was a case in I think Spain where a brother and sister who'd both been adopted out and had never known each other ended up married and with children. When they found out, they decided to stay as a married couple - after all, they had the kids already, and saw no point in breaking up.

[aussieone]

And how did the kids turn out? 

[ari_]

And how did the kids turn out? 

I don't remember (or rather, I was probably never mentioned), but I don't think they had any serious problems. Inbreeding only gets problematic if you keep doing it over and over, so unless their kids keep up the practice, the family line should be safe.

[Andygal]

Yeah, inbreeding doesn't mean your automatically screwed. It's generally a bad idea because it can bring out harmful recessive traits that otherwise wouldn't have been expressed but you can get away with it on occcasion. Not that I would do it.

and I have one neighbourhood where ALLLL the plyable sims are related by blood or mariage to the founder sim. They just keep on marrying townies and NPCs. It stated off as a legacy family attempt. Now it's a back neighbourhood with 4 generations of sims and one family of 10 kids. And  it's tarting to get into the kind of territory where they don't recognize each other as family. But I've not allowed them to do anything with any relatives as yet. And they won't be marrying relatives thank you very much. As long as there is an endless supply of townies and NPCs they don't need to marry each other.

[ZephyrZodiac]

I think the intermarriage thing became a problem in isolated villages when the nearest neighbour was more than a day's walk away.  It's never been a problem in towns - except, of course, for Pharaohs!

Of course, by the nature of things, if a brother and sister meet up for the first time, there'll be some kind of attraction because they are family, but it would probably be misinterpreted!  I'm sure it's happened many times over, especially when adoption details were kept so secret!  Which goes to show, there should be a law to prevent siblings being separated when they get adopted - I know most agencies try to keep them together, but if they can't find a suitable family to take all the kids, they will split them.

[Oddysey]

Inbreeding is only a problem if there are recessive defects in the family. Trouble is, that many features that cause lifethreatening illness when one has two copies beneficial when the person only has one copy. Sickle cell anemia is like this; protects against malaria. And cystic fibrosis protects against cholera. So you have a situation where if there aren't any other carriers of a gene in the population, a carrier's descendents will do much better than everyone else, but the more carriers there are the worse any individual carrier's descendents are likely to do. The benefits of this situation are maximized, and the problems minimized, with inbreeding taboos.

In the sims, of course, where there are no genetic diseases, inbreeding poses threat except to the sensiblities of the users and the coherency of the family tree display.

[ZephyrZodiac]

And possibly no noses for alien descendants?

[J. M. Pescado]

Necromancy is bad, 'mkay?