SimSheet (a sim-tracking program) [Now with Aspiration and LTW tracking!]

[Inge]

It could be... Rufio doesn't like quotes round strings

[rufio]

Ooops.  Actually, what I don't like is spaces in folder names (too used to having to escape them in linux) so I never realized.  I'll reupload.

ETA:  Forgot to add, I did reupload and the output path should now have quotes around it.

[coralleane]

*whimper*  Redownloaded, and although the first dialog doesn't show, it seems to not be calling SimPE at all now - the cmd.exe window flashes up briefly and goes away before I can even attempt to read it (it *looks* like it has a file path in it but I'm not sure) and then I get the message about checking I have the correct SimPE version.  I'm off to bed now (anything I try and do to test will just result in stupidity at the moment because I'm exhausted), but in the morning I'll try to remember to give it a shot by moving it into a different folder or anything else anyone can think of.  This was with the 'regular' version, btw, not debug, since it looks like that file wasn't changed - at least, when I went to unzip it, WinRAR reported identical file sizes and modify dates. 

[rufio]

"It's just ten characters of code," the demon of laziness said.  "You don't need to test it," she said.

Inge?  The only change to the command is the quotes around the second url.

[tunaisafish]

I'm getting the same as Coral
Any chance you can leave the cmd.exe box up after execution until we get it working on everybodies machines?
Either by a switch or a 'press any key to close' prompt.

[rufio]

I don't remember how to do that in Windows.   Some call to system (), right?  I'll try manually entering it and see what comes up.

ETA: It works just fine when I get up the command line and do it by hand, but not when SimSheet calls it with system ().  Is this more Windoze fuckery?

[tunaisafish]

The 'pause' command gives the 'press any key' prompt.
Just tried these below in a command prompt and they work just like they'd do in bash.

echo foo || pause
echo foo && pause

[rufio]

Well, calling system ("pause") right after the other system call just shows "press any key" and nothing else - no error messages, or anything.  Am I doing it right?

[Inge]

Lack of error messages probably means there was no error.  Lack of anything means you didn't use "echo" lines

[rufio]

Ok.  I am a Windows noob.  How does echo work?  Is foo a string, or something else?

ETA:  Ok, I see - still no error messages, though.

[tunaisafish]

I could write a batch file that you could call with the 2 arguents if you like?
batch files are windows answer to shell scripts.
I could add some sanity checking that the directories and files exist etc,
and end with a pause so we can debug.

The only 2 args you'd need to supply would be the "SimPE.exe path" and the "output folder".

ETA, make that 3 args.  Forgot the hood.

[rufio]

Sure.  This is a file that I put in the SimSheet directory and invoke with system (), right?  Should the paths be absolute or relative to the location of the batch file?

[tunaisafish]

Check your email to sort out the details

[rufio]

Ok, finally managed to get tunafish's batch file (it was eated by gmail) and ran it.  What happens is that SimPE runs for a while, and then pops up an error saying "Use -out specify an existing folder".  Is the commandline argument parser unable to deal with quotes?

[tunaisafish]

Does the output path have a trailing '/'?

[rufio]

Yes, because you included one in the example you sent me.  I can try taking it out.

ETA: Ok, that worked with the batch file, although directly invoking the command still doesn't seem to.  Guess I'll package tuna's file into the zips reupload, then.

[tunaisafish]

Yeah, my fault you didn't read the last email that contained the attachement

BTW, this tool helped me find out why one of my sims was broken, and highlighted another broken EA-made sim

Chastity Gere looked like she was stuck in permiplat, and she should not have been as I'd not played her that much.
Her 'real mood' was hidden, she was actually heading for aspiration failure.  I put the thinking cap on her and she lost skill points and had her energy drain to zero.
Sorting my playables in SimSheet showed her aspiration was set to 'Nothing', although in game all indications said she was a romance sim.
There was another child set to Knowledge instead of grow-up.

Easily fixed in SimPE, but much easier to actually locate the problem aspirations using SimSheet

[rufio]

Ok, I've updated - tuna's batch file is in the zip, and you'll need to put that in the SimSheet directory too.

[tunaisafish]

Loads OK again

Full hood.  All sims were loaded, as their names appeared in the right 'Households'.

Problems
1/ Quiet a big bug with the 'List of Sims'.
I found a workaround to stop it crashing.  Hopefully this will point you in the right direction.

At first, only playables were listed in the 'List of Sims' window.
Had to toggle the townies off&on to get them to display.

Opening from a savefile, then trying to sort on any field causes simsheet to just disappear.
 - think this is related to townies not showing.  It sorts OK after toggling the townies off&on in the filter.

No 'Adoptables' showing until you toggle the Filter off&on.
I think there are more like this not showing until you toggle the filter off&on.
The list of names starting with A was 1 page to begin with, and grew up to 5 pages after I'd cycled through all the family-filter options.

Not sure if you've implemented these 2 yet...
2/ Pressing 'Add Notes' causes a crash (with MS send report dialog).
3/ Cancelling the 'Add Image' causes a crash (with MS send report dialog).

Suggestions
1/ 'At Large' is confusing, can this be 'Townies/Dormies'?
2/ Some way to filter/sort on family?
  We can easily filter most of the special families through the Filter checkboxes.
  Maybe add a dropdown to filter a specific playable household.
  Maybe add a surname or household column to the list for sorting on.

Thanks for the update

[Inge]

Rufio did you get the latest QA?  It has more output fields and some changed headers so you need to update for those.  We got some more age fields one of which might be the one you wanted.

[rufio]

At first, only playables were listed in the 'List of Sims' window.
Had to toggle the townies off&on to get them to display.

Yeah, I forgot to set all the filter flags to on at the start.

Opening from a savefile, then trying to sort on any field causes simsheet to just disappear.
 - think this is related to townies not showing.  It sorts OK after toggling the townies off&on in the filter.

I'm not sure how that would have to do with the filter flags, but I'm not seeing it after fixing them, so I guess it must have.

Not sure if you've implemented these 2 yet...
2/ Pressing 'Add Notes' causes a crash (with MS send report dialog).
3/ Cancelling the 'Add Image' causes a crash (with MS send report dialog).

Noted.  The first probably has to do with my changing the way the list was stored.

1/ 'At Large' is confusing, can this be 'Townies/Dormies'?

Probably, yes.

2/ Some way to filter/sort on family?
  We can easily filter most of the special families through the Filter checkboxes.
  Maybe add a dropdown to filter a specific playable household.
  Maybe add a surname or household column to the list for sorting on.

Surname is not stored as a separate field, but the simplest way to do this would be to add a household column to the List of Sims.  Will do.

Inge, I do not have the new QA - how do I get it?

[Inge]

Surname is output as a seperate field however.  Also household name.

Are you a member of the SimPE forums?  If so, tell me your username and I will add you to the QA group.  If not, join, then go back to step 1

[rufio]

I think I may have signed up as rufio once.

[Inge]

Well go and find out if you still have an account and it is still working.  You'll have to hurry if you want me to sign you up for QA before I go into my nightly downtime!

[rufio]

Yep, still works.

ETA:  New version up, tuna's bugs are fixed.