Problem - Music skipping/repeating in CAS - causing Computer Crash.

[kathryn.mari.]

I posted this elsewhere the other day...but I think it may not have been appropriate in that thread...so I am reposting it in it's own thread. Hope thats okay 

I only have Sims2 and UNI installed.

I have had multiple instances of game crashing while in CAS, where the Music starts skipping/repeating. It will freeze the entire computer. I have tried to alt-ctl-delete, minimize to end task, but nothing works. If I wait in hopes the music will correct itself or try clicking anything while its in that loop, the game either locks up or hard crashes and I have to do a reset of my computer.

It's happened while just zooming in/out on a CAS sim while I'm seeing how some content looks, or even while just scrolling thru the clothing files to plan an outfit. It happens with or without custom 'skin related' content (all cc has been tested and is mainly my own) in the game. Needless to say, this is taking major amounts of relaxation and fun out of the game. I haven't played the game or used CAS for quite some time due to this problem 

I took a look at the audio error log to see if I could figure it out..and it shows tons of 'duplicate' resources? I have no idea why though. I have never touched the music files, nor have I added any music files.

Here's a sample of whats in my audio error log at the moment:

{1,22:19:48:530,00:01:09:007,5379,ERROR,TSAudio,Duplicate resource instance id found ff5ef8a5 with existing 7b1acfcd:eb8ab356:ff5ef8a5 },
{2,22:19:48:532,00:01:09:007,5379,ERROR,TSAudio,Duplicate resource instance id found ff5ef8a5 with existing 0b9eb87e:eb8ab356:ff5ef8a5 },
{3,22:19:48:544,00:01:09:015,5379,ERROR,TSAudio,Duplicate resource instance id found ff328c36 with existing 7b1acfcd:2da1f2e2:ff328c36 },
{4,22:19:48:544,00:01:09:015,5379,ERROR,TSAudio,Duplicate resource instance id found ff9a8132 with existing 7b1acfcd:2da1f2e2:ff9a8132 },
{5,22:19:48:544,00:01:09:015,5379,ERROR,TSAudio,Duplicate resource instance id found fff30ee0 with existing 7b1acfcd:2da1f2e2:fff30ee0 },
{6,22:19:48:544,00:01:09:015,5379,ERROR,TSAudio,Duplicate resource instance id found ff5b03e4 with existing 7b1acfcd:2da1f2e2:ff5b03e4 },
{7,22:19:48:544,00:01:09:015,5379,ERROR,TSAudio,Duplicate resource instance id found ffa1fe58 with existing 7b1acfcd:2da1f2e2:ffa1fe58 },
{8,22:19:48:544,00:01:09:015,5379,ERROR,TSAudio,Duplicate resource instance id found ff09f35c with existing 7b1acfcd:2da1f2e2:ff09f35c },
{9,22:19:48:544,00:01:09:015,5379,ERROR,TSAudio,Duplicate resource instance id found ff607c8e with existing 7b1acfcd:2da1f2e2:ff607c8e },
{10,22:19:48:544,00:01:09:015,5379,ERROR,TSAudio,Duplicate resource instance id found ffc8718a with existing 7b1acfcd:2da1f2e2:ffc8718a },
{11,22:19:48:544,00:01:09:015,5379,ERROR,TSAudio,Duplicate resource instance id found ff328c36 with existing 0b9eb87e:2da1f2e2:ff328c36 },
{12,22:19:48:544,00:01:09:015,5379,ERROR,TSAudio,Duplicate resource instance id found ff9a8132 with existing 0b9eb87e:2da1f2e2:ff9a8132 },
{13,22:19:48:544,00:01:09:015,5379,ERROR,TSAudio,Duplicate resource instance id found fff30ee0 with existing 0b9eb87e:2da1f2e2:fff30ee0 },

this continues..up to this:
142,22:19:48:687,00:01:09:085,5379,ERROR,TSAudio,Duplicate resource instance id found ffed20e5 with existing 0b9eb87e:2da1f2dd:ffed20e5 },

Anyone know what causes this to happen? Has anyone else got audio error logs like this? I was wondering if it had to do with both the base Sims 2 game and the Uni EP 'Program files' having music files in both their directories? and the game is reading from both 

The only hacks/mods I have currently installed, are :: startup cheat (censorblur remover), CEP, and Numenor's fix for the Tulip Lamps & Ironwood Bed.

[Baddmark]

That looks exactly like my error log.

No crash to desktop, though. Although I seem to generate more and more errors each time I play, and some weird jump bug effects appear to be creeping in now. Had a sim jump out of using the Medical Reward yesterday, causing him to drop his queued actions, too. Wouldn't have minded too much but the thing stayed bleeping for hours. 

Got lots of "missing bone" errors in the logs too. Anyone know what they are?

[RainbowTigress]

I have not had this problem in CAS, but I have experienced the music skipping/repeating as you described when I've had a lot crash when trying to load.  Then I get the error message that the application has crashed, and I get dumped to the desktop.  So I am wondering if what you are experiencing is in fact related to the music or is only a side-effect of the crash?  Perhaps it is some custom content in CAS that is causing it to crash, or perhaps a custom background?  Do you have any of these?  Does it happen right away, or only on certain clothing or other custom content?

I believe JM or TJ said somewhere that those audio errors are normal and to ignore them.  I get them all the time, but it doesn't seem to affect anything.  So I ignore them now especially since JM/TJ said it wasn't anything to worry about.

[kathryn.mari.]

Thanks!

I've only ever used the CAS background that came with the game. The last time it happened, I was creating an elder female for the first time, selecting clothing. I have no elder custom clothing content and I was using all Maxis genetics & makeup in her creation.

I have one error in the TextureError log ::

{1,05:52:47:124,00:00:16:867,6,WARNING,TextureManager,Cannot load texture 'casie-white-alpha' },

Is that related to the CAS program or to a skin (clothing, etc.) related alpha?

My only other error log is the AppWarnings Log ::

WARNING Shader validation: *** Failed to validate a shader for material 'nhoodterrainlightingmaterial' using 'NHoodTerrainLighting' as definition! ***
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialParser.cpp(5896)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'foliagelod90', handle 253 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'flowerslod90', handle 301 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'layeredwillowleaveslod90', handle 306 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'layeredjapanesemaplelod90', handle 309 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'stairslod90', handle 314 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'baselod90', handle 318 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'finishlod90', handle 320 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'woodlod90', handle 331 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'chairlod90', handle 342 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'treelod90', handle 367 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'parkbenchlod90', handle 405 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'canlod90', handle 410 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'surfaceslod90', handle 425 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'columnlod90', handle 428 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'column1lod90', handle 453 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'colorslod90', handle 516 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'walllod90', handle 519 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'mainlod90', handle 582 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'columnwoodlod90', handle 584 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'bodylod90', handle 626 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition '##0x1c050000!loveseatarizona-[shtinky-30.4.2005-113923]_wood_mahogony', handle 340 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition '##0x1c050000!babbleloveseat-[shtinky-13.6.2005-122119]_wood_mahogony', handle 358 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition '##0x1c050000!sofacolonial1-[shtinky-26.3.2005-123a8]_woods_hickory', handle 239 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'bulb_lit', handle 348 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'foliagelod90', handle 426 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'flowerslod90', handle 608 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'layeredwillowleaveslod90', handle 642 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'layeredjapanesemaplelod90', handle 635 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'stairslod90', handle 573 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'baselod90', handle 569 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'finishlod90', handle 585 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'woodlod90', handle 588 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'chairlod90', handle 556 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'treelod90', handle 542 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'parkbenchlod90', handle 254 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'canlod90', handle 653 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'surfaceslod90', handle 250 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'columnlod90', handle 405 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'column1lod90', handle 663 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'colorslod90', handle 726 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'walllod90', handle 729 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'mainlod90', handle 792 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'columnwoodlod90', handle 794 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'bodylod90', handle 836 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'column1lod90', handle 701 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'baselod90', handle 252 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'stepslod90', handle 584 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'stairslod90', handle 718 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'walllod90', handle 717 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'chairlod90', handle 762 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'surfaceslod90', handle 636 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'layeredjapanesemaplelod90', handle 834 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'woodlod90', handle 831 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'colorslod90', handle 829 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'mainlod90', handle 827 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'columnlod90', handle 694 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'canlod90', handle 723 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'foliagelod90', handle 712 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'parkbenchlod90', handle 808 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'foliagelod90', handle 715 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'woodlod90', handle 730 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'baselod90', handle 731 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'stairslod90', handle 297 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'walllod90', handle 797 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'parkbenchlod90', handle 553 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'columnlod90', handle 859 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'canlod90', handle 810 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'treelod90', handle 816 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'layeredjapanesemaplelod90', handle 338 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'flowerslod90', handle 547 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'finishlod90', handle 629 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'layeredwillowleaveslod90', handle 573 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'foliagelod90', handle 577 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'file2material', handle 506 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'afarchccellod15_afarchcaralod15_afface_s1', handle 602 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'file1material', handle 777 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'afarchcauslod15_afface_s1', handle 591 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'layeredwillowleaveslod90', handle 794 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Unknown material definition 'foliagelod90', handle 313 -- substituting dummy material definition
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(996)
WARNING MaterialManager: Material 'floorgridblack' was not released before material manager shutdown
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(145)
WARNING MaterialManager: Material 'floorlocalgridblack' was not released before material manager shutdown
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(145)
WARNING MaterialManager: Material 'floorgridwhite' was not released before material manager shutdown
.\source\GZSceneGraphMaterialManager.cpp(145)

[RainbowTigress]

What is your computer's specs?  (CPU, RAM, graphics card)

[kathryn.mari.]

Pentium 4 - 3.4Mhz
DFI - LAN PARTY - Model 875P-T
EVGA Nvidia GeForce 6800 Ultra - AGP 8x - 256MB
2 Gigs of PC500 Crucial Ballistics DDR RAM
MAXTOR HD - 250Gigs
SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS
ANTEC 550 True Power Supply
XP Home Edition with SP2
NEC Monitor - Multisync FE991sb

Nvidia Drivers I have currently = version 71.89

I plan to upgrade my video drivers to 77.77 just before I get NightLife.

[RainbowTigress]

Well, that sounds great, I am actually jealous, LOL.  I don't know what the problem could be then.  Wish I could help, but this is beyond me.  Hopefully someone else will have some advice for you.

[Baddmark]

*drools over PC specs... 

No, my error logs still own yours, and no crashes in CAS. You could go into options and try turning off the music, If you want to eliminate that from your suspects. You could try removing all your custom hair/makeup/clothes and see if it is a dodgy download causing it.

I suppose I should go into CAS later and make sure mine hasn't decided to lock up in sympathy. 

[kathryn.mari.]

Thanks so much for trying to help..most appreciated! 

I'll try turning the music off and testing it. I have most of the audio option sliders set to the middle or 3/4 of the way over towards high. (By the way, I did update my sound drivers in hopes that would help..but it didnt't)
I'll also start pulling out skin related cc.

Question - what happens if I remove genetics/makeup/clothing from the game, that may already be on sims I created in game or in the family bin? Does it revert back to Maxis content?

[Kitiara]

I have done this before, and all I can tell you is that sometimes they ended up with random Maxis hair, sometimes bald. The eyes will revert to Maxis, and clothing will as well ( in my game I had a lot of women walking around in beige capri pants with a red button up shirt) but probably all the same outfit. 
I deleted a lot of cc trying to cull downloads. It was a pain, but other than the hilarity of bald women, no bad effects.

[kathryn.mari.]

Thanks for the info Kitiara 

[Kitiara]

You're welcome.