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Rosehrt
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Buggy landlord complaints slow game down to almost stall.
« on: 2008 October 19, 21:33:47 »
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I hate it when the landlord complains, because it slows down the game.  Landlords always seem to complain when their is an old newspaper outside, and a toddler in the apartment.  They seem to clean up the old newspapers fine with no toddlers around.  It's just annoying that they will keep picking up the newspaper and drop it and ring the door bell, while the parents are at work and only the toddler is at home with a nanny.  The game stops with a long pause over and over again.  The only way to get the landlord to stop complaining is to click on buy  mode and wait for it to popup.  Use the moveobject on cheat and delete the old newspaper, all the baby bottles and dirty dishes. 

I was wondering if a  stop landlord compliant mod exist? And if there is not a mod for this, it would be nice if someone could make a stop landlord compliant mod. Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: 2008 October 19, 23:33:32 »
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I found that putting a garbage shoot in the hallways where your sim's doors are works for the newspapers.  He wants to come into your house to throw the paper away but if its out in the hallway, he doesn't have to. 
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« Reply #2 on: 2008 October 20, 01:42:39 »
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I found that putting a garbage shoot in the hallways where your sim's doors are works for the newspapers.  He wants to come into your house to throw the paper away but if its out in the hallway, he doesn't have to. 

No that is not what is happening in this situation the landlord does not ring the doorbell when they cannot get to the garbage shoot. They only ring the doorbell when they have a complaint.

I have had the landlord trying to get to the garbage shoot before picking up the paper and throwing their hands around in the air, and opened the door for them.  They did not ring the doorbell and cause the game to go into a long pause though. But thanks for trying to help out. 
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« Reply #3 on: 2008 October 20, 12:52:58 »
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I have not seen any such behavior occurring in the game. At what point does this "pause" occur? Can you take a screenshot of what is occurring at the moment the game pauses?
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Re: Buggy landlord complaints slow game down to almost stall.
« Reply #4 on: 2008 October 20, 16:47:49 »
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Ok, next time it happens I will try to get pictures, but it will be hard with the game going in and out of long pauses. But untill it happens again I will try to explain the situation better. For I really want a mode to stop landlord and neighbor complaints. 

Will for example you know that neighbors in apartments will complain if their is dishes left in the common area or on a balcony, a garbage can knocked over and stinky garbage, an old newspaper left outside.  But they useually won't complain unless they fell it is to messy.  When their is a toddler or baby in the apartment, it compounds the problem though, since baby bottles, and potty chairs are messy.
And a nanny will wait for the baby bottles to start be stinky before picking them up.  By that time there is alot of baby bottles thrown around. Though this won't happen with neighbors who babysit, they pick up the bottles right after feeding the toddler or baby. 

So when a neighbor feels it is to dirty they will complain, which is really annoying. The neighbor will ring the doorbell and the sim well stop whatever they are doing and drop out everything in their que to answer the door to hear the neighbor's complaint and than walk a long ways back into their apartment and up the stairs if their is a second floor in their apartment.  It will cause a brief pause in the game.  But before they can clean up the mess another neighbor will ring the doorbell, and the process will start all over again.

Now the landlord will complain for the same reasons as above just after they arrive arround nine o'clock in the monrning when most sims are at work.  Now when the landlord complains it will for some reason cause a long pause in the game from about a half a minute to a minute, and they will keep doing this over and over again.  They will keep ringing the doorbell over and over again when their is no sim availble to answer the door. So I will get the long game pauses over and over again. And usuallly the game is in fast forward at this time too. And in the process the landlord gets no yard work done. 

If their is a sim at home at the time to answer the door, the landlord willl  ring the doorbell again before the sim has time to clean up the mess.  And like above with the neighbor complaints, the sim will loose everything in their que and answer the door and do the long walk back into the apartment and up the stairs. By the time the sim reaches the top of the staris the landlord has ringed the doorbell again. So the only solution is to use the moveobject on cheat to get rid of all the stinky mess.
 
I like to add someting to the above.  I think what is the cause of the long pauses is the landlord is resetting themselves, when their is no sim availble at home to answer the door.  The landlord or a neighbor will cause the long pause in the game I found too if I counsel out the neighbor or landlord complaint before the sim answers the door.
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« Reply #5 on: 2008 October 20, 18:15:28 »
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When you turn on debug mode, does the landlord throw an error during the pause? Did you find any error logs?

It sounds like the real problem is the game treats toddlers/babies as valid sims to complain to during its initial test, but (correctly) disregards them as valid sims for the routine that finds sims to answer a doorbell. The pause is probably the game churning away, looking for someone to answer the door, erroring when it can't find anyone, then trying to find the next best action for the landlord... but the next best action is always "complain", because of the broken test for whether someone is available to complain to. I don't have AL, but I'm guessing you can at least avoid this bug by using the baby controller to disintegrate bottles, reducing mess. Combined with a changing table, this should restrict landlords and neighbors to worrying about the common areas only.
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« Reply #6 on: 2008 October 20, 23:02:49 »
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You can also always try my old, true and tested method to avoid all the bottles - turn the fridge to the wall when the nanny comes.  Her shouting and stomping doesn't cause the game to pause.
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« Reply #7 on: 2008 October 21, 05:19:34 »
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« Reply #8 on: 2008 October 21, 08:35:17 »
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So when a neighbor feels it is to dirty they will complain, which is really annoying. The neighbor will ring the doorbell and the sim well stop whatever they are doing and drop out everything in their que to answer the door to hear the neighbor's complaint and than walk a long ways back into their apartment and up the stairs if their is a second floor in their apartment.  It will cause a brief pause in the game.  But before they can clean up the mess another neighbor will ring the doorbell, and the process will start all over again.
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