Extacly. Thank you so much. When I took out all genetic BS content I was able to see the streching by applying the eyeliner... If everyone is saying that its a problem with skins then why wasn't it resolved??? Also, if it's just a case of bad facial scuplt genetics then why did the exact same results appear from breeding face 5 with 12, face 19 with 13, face 4 with 1, etc of Oupe's, Pooklet's and Maxis templates - before and after removing each type of CC in turn?

If, in fact, it was absolutely a CC issue (my game is alergic, whatever) would having only that one piece of makeup in my Downloads folder to prove streching truly affect anything? If so, then I'm willing to upload the package so you can show me.

I'm reinstalling my game tonight, yet again. Raise your hand if you'd like pictures of every step of the trial and error porcess. 

No, I don't think you should simply fix it for me. I'm just pissed that you all seem to say the same thing. "Run the game without CC". I have already fucking done that, before and after reinstalling the game (obviously before running the game with that one piece of eyeliner and thanks for pointing that out). What a stupid idea to ask people for help and not do what they're asking.

That's my take. If you're only answer is "this girl doesn't know how to drag and drop her Saved Sims and Downloads folders to her desktop", thanks a bunch for your help.

*EDIT* I see a lot of you saying Enayla skins are messed up. Those aren't Enayla's but they may (most likely) be clones/blends - whatever. Are you guys saying there's something wrong with the actual file that makes the breeding f'ed up? Even then... the problem would go away once custom skins were removed, I assume. I did remove all my CC in batches - testing each round. First BodyShop genetics (eyes, hair, skin and face templates), then everything else in BodyShop (accessories, makeup, clothing, etc), then Hacks and then all Build/Buy mode. I use the Download organizer to categorize everything, so I do know what is what.

I'm pretty damn sure it's not a CC issue since even reinstalling and running it pure doesn't fix it. You may not be able to tell by that first picture, but I can - from seeing it in game.

The picture of the four foreheads was the result of breeding two sims. This is what I posted at MTS:

"Maybe someone can try this out with me. I'll download 2 sims from the same creator. The only custom content in my game will be the custom content included with them. I'll post a pic of the first four results from breeding in CAS... and someone else could do the same? It seems reasonable to me that if somebody else has normal looking sims and mine all have crazy eyebags that then, even after all my previous tries, I have proof of a problem. Yes?

If anybody is willing to do just this for me.. please download Joshua and Teagan, breed them in CAS and post a picture of the first four results. Thank you!"

Am I the only one that makes sense to? Maybe I'm missing something. I've also tried unistalling SimPE and reinstalling a completely updated version - thinking that would matter, but nope.

All my custom skins looks perfectly normal untill their applied to a sim that I've bred in game... I don't know what else to say. Those skins are not badly made. The verticies (is that what they're called, the points on a mesh) that are supposed to be directly underneath the eye are automatically stretched to the top of the cheek each and every single friggen sim I breed in game.

Um... I'm pretty sure you can remove it all... uh... test things out to make sure it's not a CC issue and the magically reinstall it all later, right?

Like I said I did.

*EDIT* Maybe I should link to this thread it's got some info on that second picture.

Those aren't defaults. Those are custom.

If you look really hard in the first picture, you can see that the texture above and below the eye is stretched. I took that pic directly after re-installing the game and only that piece one of eyeliner was in my downloads folder. I put it in to show the stretched quality since maxis skins have no difference in tone above or below the eye. What you see in the second set is exactly what happens all the time - noticable because there is detail around the eye.

I use the download organizer so I'm pretty sure I don't have conflicting defaults of any type. And like I said... if the first try after reinstalling showed broken-ness, it can't bee a CC issue, right?

I included the wrong picture - Sorry.

I've tried every combination I can think of - sims I downloaded because according to pics they made cute babes, male/female clones of eachother, so many combinations of face templates from a few different creators... All of this done before and after each of the following - removing face templates, hacks and mods, removing ALL custom content... Saved sims, all those miscellaneous files at the end of the My Docs/Sims 2 folder and thumbnails. Oh and re-installing!!!

My machine is new (Vista), 3GB Ram, 250 Memory, AMD Turion Duel-Core RM-70, Nvidia Geforce 8200M G...

Sim detail is on high, texture as well.

My game is not legal. I've used torrents for every game (http://www.mininova.org/tor/2050375 - fyi). I've had troubles getting the patch included for Freetime to work. I thought about that too.

So, there's all the info I can think to give you. Please help... this does not seem like a usual problem at all.

I don't have too much experience with this but...

Are you asking how to mount the images... or...? I use Daemon tools. It'll put a little icon on your taskbar (a blue disk with a lightning bolt). Right click on that then "Virtual CD/DVD Rom" and "Device 0: ....." and "Mount Image". That will open up My Docs and you can find your files from there, I hope. When it asks for the next disk just repeat those same steps but find the next labeled ISO (or other files that do the same thing like .mdf or .cue).

I hope that helps... And of course if it's not and I explained things like an idiot... I admitted I didn't have experience in the first place. So there.