So what is new?  Everyday on here is Grammar Day.

Well, I have just got to put my two cents in. I was inclined to go with single spacing because that is what printers and typesetters use. However, upon further investigation you are all right, according to the Modern Language Association. That should make you all happy. You can either double space or single space it's your call. However I agree, Murhagh, there is entirely too much nick picking on the forum. It takes away from the main objective and that is to help people play their Sims game not to teach them grammar. This whole thread was a waste except for a couple of constructive post.

Here's the link http://www.mla.org/style_faq3, but the meat of the matter is stated below:

Because it is increasingly common for papers and manuscripts to be prepared with a single space after all punctuation marks, this spacing is shown in the examples in the MLA Handbook and the MLA Style Manual. As a practical matter, however, there is nothing wrong with using two spaces after concluding punctuation marks unless an instructor or editor requests that you do otherwise.

So you can be practical or go with the flow.

Random the interaction problem has to do with mods conflicting. Try removing them and then adding them back one at a time. I had the same problem.

Avent, what was my grade. If it was a C I consider that acceptable. Actually I can spell, and I can type, I can proof read but when I am in a hurry or mad and I am not getting paid to worry about it. I don't worry about it. I have enough to worry about. I will glance over it run it through a spell check make sure it is understandable but I am not going to make it perfect to satisfy a bunch of Professions who spend the majority of their time grading post for grammar and spelling because that it is ingrained in them to do so.  

However, it is amazing, that all those error got past Microsoft Word because I did run it through it.  And I understand when a post is so filled with bad grammar and miss spelling that you can't understand what a person is saying it can be stressful trying to figure it out but it doesn't justify the way you guys treat people. Everyone makes mistake and I know that most the people on here that do the complaining make the same mistakes.  At least when I spot my errors I go back and correct them. I have found numerous errors on here by those very people who don't bother. Why because they know that no one is going to condemn them for it because you all own this forum, so it seems.

I can't for the life of me believe you people can be so hateful.

All most of us are trying to do is enjoy a game and the mod that makes it ten times more enjoyable. When the game goes wrong we go through all kinds of stress trying to figure out what is wrong with it. We come to this site thinking we can find answers. We SEARCH AND SEARCH AND SEARCH then because we think there must not be anyone here that has had this problem we simply ask for help. And what do we get in return? We get cussed us out; humiliated, mocked and told to go do some more searching.

I read through post after post by people who act like they own this site and the rudeness and down right hate in those people's post, the way they talk to people is unbelievable. It really make me wonder how this site has survived this long, well I take that back it has only survived because of the mods that is available here.

But you know what I will give you all the benefit of the doubt maybe you had a bad childhood. Maybe you have to take you frustrations out on others, but one thing if for sure say what you will but you are not going to run me off with your rudeness. I will stay and help anyone that asks, if I can help, until whoever owns this forum boots me off for being so helpful if that is the policy here and it seems it is.

Well I ran it through a spell check and I glanced over it. I can read it and if it bothers you then I am sorry for you.

Having a slow computer will do the same thing. Does you computer meet the minimum requirements?

Random, don't take it personally; they talk to everyone like that. You could be a genius and they would try to make you feel stupid.

I think their problem is that they have never done any searching themselves and don't realize how much time it takes going through all these threads. But I will say they are very smart. I am beginning to believe they may be professors or at least teachers. I have never felt like I was back in school more than when first coming to this forum.

But I am learning to ignore their rudeness in order to gain their wisedom... Evidentally it makes them feel superior; but that don't mean they are.

I hope with the help they have given you, you can fix your game. If not ask again. Believe it or not a lot of people on here are nice.

I would also like to know, but for now I just take them into CAS and make them young again.  Click control C and type "edit sim" in the window.

Make sure your vents aren't covered up. My son's laptop has vents on the bottom and if you set it on the bed or anything other than a hard surface it will clog the vents and make it heat up.

As stated previously the traits were not showing up in my game while playing with Awesomemod since I last reinstalled and updated the game.  This had happen only sporadically previously and only maybe the last couple of weeks or so. I didn't really pay much attention, thinking it was only a glitch until they stopped showing up at all when I reinstalled and updated.

Does anyone know if it is possible for Awesomemod to conflict with outdated mods if they are NOT included in the same folder?

The only mods I had in the c:\programfiles\electronicarts\mods\packages folder was Awesomemod and the config file. However, I did have outdated mods (not knowing at the time they were outdated) saved elsewhere on my computer.

As stated above when I installed the other mods in c:\programfiles\electronicarts\mods\packages, updated them and removed the old saved mods from elsewhere on my computer to the recycle bin the traits appeared while using Awesomemod. The game started working fine with Awesomemod!

That is the only thing I can come up with that may have caused the problem I was having.

However, I tried to reenact it by restoring the outdated mods but the trait still showed up. So maybe removing them to the recycle bin broke the contact enough to straigten Awesomemod out.

I haven't had this problem until about the same time they came out with the new patch and then it was just occasionally and only with certain lots and I imagine that is when the other mods became outdated. But it wasn't a big problem until I reinstall my game and I couldn't get traits at all.

It seems like from Sims 2 I have heard that conflicts can cross to other parts of the computer and people would tell you to completely get rid of the conflicting cc/mods from your computer. But it looks like it would still conflict even if it was in the recycle bin (I hadn't empty it yet) or maybe the recycle bin has some barrier that keeps the rest of the computer from accessing the files in there.

EDIT:  I had posted this question to a tech support web site and they did confirm that mods can conflict even they they are both not installed in the same game and are in different folders.  And I also found out that different mods may cause different types of conflict. It was the outdated Hidden Traits program that was effecting the traits, which makes sense. Then once I got that fixed I was having a problem with the relationships not showing up I removed three more of my least favorite mods and that fixed it but I am not sure yet which mod was causing that problem.

The moral to the story is if you are having problems make sure all you mods are uptodate whether they are installed in the game or just somewhere on your computer.

My game is working!  The traits are showing up, I have no idea what I did to fix it.  

If you haven't been following my problem then check back a few post in this thread if you want to read everything; but just to narrow it down, I had reinstalled my game and the only mod I had reinstall was Awesomemod and its config file. I didn't even install my saves. It was a clean install. The problem: my traits disappeared all but the stupid trait. I couldn't get them in CAS and the sims that were in the game didn't have traits. I did everything by the book when I installed. Awesomemod was working. No one could help and had not idea what the problem was. I tried reinstalling my saves, it didn't help.

The only thing I done to fix it was give up on Awesomemod. I removed it and the config file and install another story progression mod.  It worked! All my traits were there. I reinstalled the rest of my mods and it stopped working. After filtering through the mods I updated a couple and it started work again.

Then it started nagging me. If this mod can work why can't Awesomemod?  As I said in a previous post, I don't give up easily.  The only thing different was Awesomemod and the Awesomemod Config file was missing. So I begin to wonder if there was something I had set in the config file that was causing the problem. I thought it may have been the setting where you can keep testingcheatsenabled true on permanently.  So I removed the story progression mod I was using and reinstalled Awesomemod. It worked! I checked the config to see if the settings were the same, they were. Testingcheatsenabled true was still on. So I reinstalled the config file. It's still working.

What could have happened to make it start working?  Anyone got any idea?


EDIT:  Something I haven't mentioned. I did update the awesomemod that was suppose be outdated I think tomorrow but it still didn't help. That was right before I gave up and removed it. I don't know if there was a change in it that didn't show up until this last install. Not likely, but I thought I would throw that out there.  Or maybe installing the other story progession did something to change something.

I am afraid to turn my game off, it might stop working again.

Well it must be my computer then. Thank you

Wizard, you said that it would be best to start with a clean game and not reinstall saves using this latest patch. Did you not add back your saves? If you didn't how do you give the sims traits?

I will try to add back my saved sims and see if that triggers the traits to start working. However, that is why I had to reinstall my game in the first place. I was trying to get rid of a weird cc. If was called bottom.nkd. It came in with a couple downloaded sims. It is the bottom half of a naked woman and was included in all ages of the female sims. I had babies being born with it and toddler would roll it when they aged. The thing would deform them and it was certainly bizarre to see a sim walking down the street half naked. It came in with two different sims one called Josie and one called Andrea Real. I removed it from my grandson's computer but it wasn't showing up in my launcher for me to remove from mine so I resorted to removing the downloads and saved sims but it didn't get rid of it so I had to reinstall the game.

I am going to back up my grandson's saved sims and install his maybe it will work then. His are the same as mind without the weird cc.

I also had a vampire shirt that was doing the same thing but it was also included in the men's wardrobe selection.  I was able to remove that one. It came in with a downloaded toddler call Catryn. By the way all these were downloaded off of Sims 3 website's Exchange.

I will let you know if it fixes the traits.


EDIT:  Before I tried installing my saved sims I decided to remove Awesomemod and restart the game. As I mentioned somewhere in another post previous to this one, the game works find without Awesomemod. I created a sim, gave her traits and saved her to the bin.  I went out of CAS bought her a house and moved her in then quit and saved the town.

I reinstalled Awesomemod and restarted the game.  I opened up the saved game and immediately noticed that I was given the three options, Create Sim, Choose Household, or move in household, where before I wasn't given the Choose Household and all the sims were in the town were already there. (EDIT: This was because I had already moved a sim in a house and saved the neighborhood. The option to Choose Household is only missing when I am opening a new game.) I chose the option to create a sim. The sim I had created was there but none of her traits were listed and when I tried to give her traits it wouldn't let me.

I went out of CAS and opened the house of the sim I had previously created. Her traits wasn't listed in the Simology tab. Someone else had posted this happening to them at: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15531.msg503500.html#msg503500.  I had this happened to me a few days ago also before I updated but it stopped. So this is evidentally something pre-this last update.

So that leads me to believe that adding my saved sims might not work either but I will try that.

Edit Edit:
I installed my saved sims and there was no change. I tried creating a new town and it was exactly the same. It gave me the three options as above to Create Sim, Choose Household or move in household. But the traits are missing from every sim and I can't add them. I even tried using the "addtrait good"; it said there wasn't a trait called good.

So now I will add back my saves because it can't get any worse. Until there is a solution I will probably have to just use another mod.  

I can't believe this isn't happening to more than just a few people.  Maybe it has to do with my computer being on the low end of the required specs. My graphic card is as low as it goes. I can run it fine without Awesomemod so either Awesomemod uses more of something my computer doesn't have enough of or there is something not compatible.  I hate to give it up. I don't think any of the other mods are nearly as good. I will keep checking back and seeing if anyone has found a solution.

Thankyou to those that tried to help me.

Wizard:

I always choose to copy my created sims to the bin so that they show up in the select a sim box and I can make other sims from my favorites maybe changing something minor to make them different. I like starting with a sim I like and changing them because I usually do not like the one the game generates.

In case you or anyone else isn't familiar with the option, you access it by click on the three dots at the bottom of the newly created sims' portrait at the bottom of the CAS window. It gives you the choice to Create a Twin, Share Sim, or Save Sim to Bin. When you choose to save it to the bin it shows up in the Pre-made sims as another pre-made sim to choose from.

Pescado:
I am talking about the sample sims the game normally give you to choose from in the Pre-made Sim box in CAS.

Hippy:
Yes, I have noticed the same thing. I thought it was strange it didn't have the third option, but since I have always added back my saves immediately I have never encountered that before. But the reason I noticed it yesterday was because I did have the feeling that when I first started this game, way back when I first installed it on the computer, I had a choice to choose one of the families that was already in the town to start playing with. Now I can only choose a family from the bin and place them in a house before the other families show up in the town.

Silent:
Well I click on the asterisk and all the pre-made sims shows up in the Pre-made Sim box (Thank you, I have noticed that button, but usually when you install a new game the premades are already there. I didn't think about clicking on it because I hadn't installed any cc yet.) but when I choose one of them I still can't select their traits.  So I still have that problem. You know when you create a sim you give them a name, and choose from a selection of clothes, hair, facial features and traits.

I can choose the traits on my grandson's computer, I think because I have my saved sims installed in it.  (EDIT:  read the following posts related to this, my grandson's computer didn't have the outdated mods on it) But on my computer I can't choose traits for any sim I create or any of the sims in the Pre-made Sims box whether they are downloaded or are pre-made. Lol I take that back, it does give me the option of the "Stupid" trait so at least I can make myself.

So are you saying that you haven't saved any of your created sims to the bin when you first created them?  If you did, then you should have sims in the CAS.  At least I believe that is why I do on my grandson's computer.

Yes I have created sims hundreds of them. I have reinstalled my game countless times but I don't remember going to the CAS before installing my saved games.  So I don't know how long it has been since these pre-made sims and traits have been missing. It seems like I had the feeling I was missing some sims for a while now but like you, I create my own so it wasn't a problem and I figured I must have lost them through reinstalling sometime or another. But the more I think about it, I remember thinking I had more elderly pre-mades than what I have now. So this must be something that has occurred previously.

I have two computers, one I am giving to my grandson for Christmas and am setting it up with Sims. It has the original files prior to updating this last time. I have updated it to the latest patch and Awesomemod but I didn't have to reinstall the whole game before I updated it. I just checked out the CAS in it and the original Sims are missing. I wished I had thought to check it before I updated. However all the sims I have created and saved to the bin are in the CAS and the traits are available to choose from.

My computer: I had to reinstall the whole game, when I go into CAS there are no sims at all. It will give you one sim when you first go into it but you can't add traits or choose their life time wish.

So I cannot even create a new sim unless I install my backups.  I haven't done that yet so I don't know if that will add the trait selection back or not. I have a feeling it will and if it does I will be able to play the game. I have been installing my downloads so I checked them out in CAS but could not choose the traits for them.

I am wondering how this will affect people who don't save their games. They will probably have to play a while before installing Awesomemod and get some sims save to their bin. (EDIT: Read the continuing post on this topic, having saved neighbhorhood and saved sims had nothing to do with this problem.)

Yes I have checked out the game. Awesomemod is working. I can click and select another households without going through edit town and I have it configured for Testingcheatsenabled true to come on automatically and it is working.

Ok it is 1:38 here and I ran this through spell check and glanced over it again but don't have time to triple check.

So what, am I suppose to cuss you out the way you guys are cussing me out. I ask for help as politely as I know how and then someone responded by cussing at me. If you ask me you are the ones who need to learn proper language. I am not going to set by and be talked to like that and I will not lower myself to using that type of language, it is not necessary to get my point across and it is very bad grammar. So, if you don't want to help me then don't.

I do appreciate what you had said at the beginning of your post in trying to help me (at least it sounded like you were trying to help me to start with) but none of it applies to my situation. As I have said, if you had read my post, I do not have the new EP WA. There are no posts for me to read that I can find.

Wizard:
Actually I was telling you how stupid I was but also letting you know that I was at least familiar with installing the Awesomemod and installing the game.

I don't know how I can tell you any clearer (I even used smaller paragraphs as someone has told me I should even though the topic didn't change). I have said all this before (most of it) but I will try again. Maybe if I outline it line for line you will understand my situation better:

1. I started with a new installation (3 times I have done this).
2. I didn't reinstall any custom content or mods, only awesome mod.  
3. I do not have the new EP, WA.  
4. I have not added back any of my saved files though I do have them backed up on my computer.
5. I use the TS3Install helper to install all package files but like I said the only one I installed was Awesomemod. I installed it in the package file not any of the folders within the package file.
6. I deleted the cache file

Now have either one of you or anyone else installed this game (only the base game - not the EP)
1. Using a clean install
2. Installed the updated Awesomemod and no other mods or custom content
3. Then gone to the CAS window and looked to see if the original sample sims and the trait selections were there. Or know of a thread where someone else has?
4. If their sims were there then there is something wrong with my installation. But I can't for the life of me figure out what it is.

I am about to pull my hair out. I am having Sims withdrawals and I need to go Christmas shopping.

If you don't have the answers or any suggestions that would apply then don't reply. I really do not like being humiliated.

I have ran this through Word's spelling and grammar check so blame that program if there is an error.
By the way, is there really a rule that you have to spell everything perfectly on this forum to make a post and if you don't you will be cussed out for it.

Maybe you need to put your glasses on. I typed in plain English "I had reinstalled my game". That means I was starting out with a fresh-spanking-new game. I immediately updated to the latest patch before I installed any mods (including Awesomemod). I started the game to make sure it was working ok. I check the CAS files the sims were there it was working fine. (by the way I have done this three times in the last two days - I have installed Awesomod more times than I can count in the past so I know how to install it (unless something has changed with this new patch)

I have been playing sims since Sims 1 when it came free with my computer and I know I have to back up everything before reinstalling. I have backups at various stages more than I can count. That there should tell you how stupid I am (I can only get so many backups in my thirty gigs allotted space). Anyway I am getting off of the point. The game worked fine. I installed Awesomemod check the CAS and the pre-made sims were gone.  I took out Awesomemod and they reappeared.  I have tried deleting the cache file each time I have reinstalled the game. It is still the same.

Now tell me if anyone has had to reinstall there game since they have installed this new patch and new Awesomemod and if they have had the same problem. Is there something wrong with Awesomemod or is there something special I need to do that I haven't had to do in the past.

If I sound a little T'd off that is because I am. I hate the way you people talk to people like they are lower and stupider than anything on earth. I hate the way people hesitate to ask a question on this forum (including me) and start off by apologizing for asking the question. What is this forum for if it isn't to help people? And don't tell me if I don't like it I can go somewhere else for the answers because I can't. I have gotten hooked on this mod and I can't play the game without it so if I give up the mod I will probably give up the game. But I don't give up easily so don't hold your breath. I am hear to stay until I get booted off by whoever it is that does the booting and I don't think that is you.

If I get any madder I won't have a keyboard left so I am going to close and hope some nice person can help me.

By that remark I am assuming that this has been posted here before maybe more than once and evidentially from your reaction it is right under my nose. So I am stupid. I can't help it. But I am certainly not lazy I have looked and looked. I reread the rtfm.txt file and have done everything by the book. If you know the answer, please go against your grain, be nice and tell me. I would certainly appreciate it.

Edit
I tell you what let's make it fun, let's play charades.  Give me a hint where I might be able to fine the answer, you don't even have to give me a link, maybe the general date this was discussed and since it is evidentially hiding under a topic title that is irrelevant, give me a few words from the topic. Or you could just send me a private message giving me the link if you don't want to discuss it here, then we could both delete our post and pretend it didn't happen.

I just updated to the 1.7 patch and the updated Awesomemod. I had reinstalled my game because I had some weird cc giving me some problems and I couldn't find the item to uninstall it in the launcher.  I went into CAS to make sure the item that was driving me crazy was gone but there wasn't any sims in the Pre-made Sim bin nor were there any traits to choose.

I went out of the game and removed Awesomemod restarted the game and it worked fine. I have been searching for the last three hours and can't find anything related to this.

I am not using the new EP and I don't have any other mods or cc installed.

Has anyone had this problem?

Edit:  I have another computer that I have had the same problem with but I didn't have to reinstall because the item giving me the problems showed up in the launcher and I was able to remove it. While I was trying to uninstall the item, I found out that I can't uninstall cc from the launcher unless Awesomemod is removed. I used to be able to install with Awesomemod installed.

Edit, Edit:  Strange but on my other computer I can install and uninstall from the launcher with Awesomemod installed.  It may have something to do with it being a better computer.

Ok...thanks. I will reinstall and then just update to the 1.4 patch until Awesomemod is ready for the 1.7 patch. Take your time I am not rushing you just wanted to know if I had done something to my game. I had download a program to check my registry and was a little worried about it messing it up.

Is the new update for Awesomod suppose to work with the new patch (1.7.9002001)?  I installed the patch last night and now it crashes before the menu comes up. I reinstalled the game. It worked fine before adding back Awesomod. I reinstall a fresh download of Awesomod, deleted the cache file and I restarted it from the TS3.exe like I am suppose rather than from the laucher. Crashed again. I took out awesomod and it works.

P.S. After taking out Awesomemod my old hood worked fine, didn't explode...

Zar...well in any case I don't need a crack if I use Awesomemod.  But that is good to know. Thank you.

I think I figured out what was wrong in my game. Awesomemod's default has the no CD option selected so it wasn't that I didn't select it. The short cut I was clicking on wouldn't work unless I used the CD and it was the short cut to the TS3.exe file not the laucher. But when I went directly to the TS3.exe file it worked without the CD so evidently the short cut was faulty. I created a new one and now it works. Maybe I created the short cut before I installed Awesome mod and that had something to do with it. I don't understand why since I think it is just a link to the original file. But maybe something was crossed I don't know. It works now though.

Thank you all for helping me....

I'll tell you what, you do a search and tell me what you used as key words to find this topic then and only then will I let you make me feel completely stupid. I search using everything I could think of and all it gave me was countless hits of non relavent topics.  I figured it had been discussed before because there is very seldom a topic on here that hasn't be discussed before and very seldom a topic that someone like you acts like a complete _ _ _ telling us to search through those thousand of non relavent topics. If you don't want to help anyone then why are you even talking to me.

Yes I use awesomemod. I didn't think there was anything wrong with using it. I think it makes the game more interesting. I thought a crack was something that made a game that someone pirated work so that EA wouldn't know they stole it. I don't see anything wrong with starting the game without using the disk if you paid for it. Actually I had thought EA made it so that you didn't need the disk but evidently I was wrong.

The way I could tell that my Awesomemod was working was because I could click on a sim from a different family and select them rather than having to close out that family and lose their wishes. But just like with anything, part of something can work while other parts of it may not.

Yes I have read the frequently asked quesitons but it has been a while and evidently I had read that I could select the no disk option and that is how I was able to play the game without using the CD. I do have a bit of a memory problem so that is very likely. In any case I assume that when I updated Awesomemod I have to reselect that option. So I will try that.

Some of you people on here can be really be rude but I guess I will just have to keep enduring it if I want answers because there are others on here than are very kind and helpful.

So I appreciate your telling how to fix this but I could have done without your rudeness, it didn't help a thing but agitate me but then again I guess that is what you were trying to do. So you could have saved your breath. I'll keep making post and asking questions that I can't find a answer to whether you like it or not.

I did proof this and would have ran it through a spell check if I had one. I am in the middle of switching computers and haven't got all my program installed. So save yourself the trouble of telling me how illiterate I am. I have what I was looking for at least I think I do and will not be reading any more replies to this topic.

Kain, when your game tells you, you need a new update just download the same file from the same place you got the previous one. Pescado doesn't change the name of the file so even though it may look the same it is a updated file. Sometimes even the size of the file is the same.

You mean that the awesome mod is a crack. If so why can't I start my game without the cd now. The awesomemod is working at least some of it is. I can click on sims and select them.

I was able to start my game without the disk by clicking on the TS3.exe file in the Bin folder. Then all of a sudden I can't do that anymore. Does anyone know why I was able to in the first place and why I can't now. My disk already has a couple of scratches and I don't want to keep having to use it. And I really don't want to resort to using a crack. Not that I feel there is any wrong with using a crack. I am just afraid I will get caught...  So maybe I do feel it is wrong.

Forgive me....pleeeeese if this is already posted somewhere. I did look...I even goodled but the only thing I found was crack related.

Maybe the announcements are new to the newer updates. The one I was trying to use was old. I didn't realize he was updating them.

However I don't think (unless it is new) it has the option to customize each lot for allowing or not allowing aging, births, relationships, immergration, careers, and radom deaths. I like to slow my favorite sims down the babies grow up way too fast just like in real life... And I don't want my favorite sims marrying just anyone and I certainly don't want them to die or get old. I don't let them get past adults.

If there is a way, is has to be selected from the cheat window and it is much easier to to use the cell phone and pick the options. You don't have to keep a list of the options you just click what you want to select.

I am tempted to uninstall ISM to see what the difference is but my game is working too good right now to mess with it.