actually the difference is threefold:

1- as said before, sexy feet look better, more realistic.
2- they have high polygon counts and can slow down an older under equipped pc.
3- while the feet look good, they break several shoe meshes. you might wind up with a sim in some nice new rad workout outfit with sexy toes from sexy feet poking out the ends of his sneakers.

oi, well that is good news to hear. perhaps Seasons will be the EP i settle on then. i think the weather thingy would be nifty nice rather than having my simmies (shriek) work on another downtown lot. shame about Pets tho... thanks for the recs too : )

Okay, i will avoid Pets, and will likely get OFB. The stuff packs just don't seem all that necessary, and I've read horrors about Seasons as well. arrrr matey aboot the readin' around (lowers eyepatch), i get yer meanin' (looks for bottle of rum)... sometimes i get too knee deep in me own work to wade through the equally deep morass of threads to find where the map leads, but troll for Davey Jones Locker I shall.... but don't forget to send a message in a bottle adrift to me shores if need be, then I can steer the ship meself, arrr...

I was afraid that i would not get of my $100 mess without it costing more, but i had heard this before, but not with the same spin. I trust your recommendation however. Not once in years have I known you to be premeditatedly ill founded, so thanks for this. Question: i am more partial toward getting Pets, just because it looks nice... but I hear it really introduces another unstable code change, especially to bodyshop. Is this true? Seriously, I just want the problem to go AWAY. Whatever you may perceive to be the most stable cure, I will actually follow through. OFB or Pets? and would a stuff pack <i>really</i> introduce more stable code to the depth i need?

Thanks. you're a peach, kid. A cigar for you.
*S*

I utterly loathe starting new threads, especially of this nature. I honestly would just rather lurk & read, find my answers & move on. It seems through lotza forums, lotza searching, I cannot find my answers. Perhaps a post here may yield results. Perhaps not. I know after a month of dealing with EA, I am not holding my breath on answers.

The Deal: brand new store bought Deluxe DVD. also picked up EP1 Uni while I was at it, but my gut just tells me that the problem originates with the Deluxe DVD. The game has several duplicate audio resources & missing textures. It does not matter how many times i uninstall it & reinstall it, whether it is on this pc or that pc or another pc. The problems remain. These problems exist with NO CC of any kind. These problems exist on computers that are new, up to spec & are used only as computer shop demo pc's. There is no problem with corrupt admin accounts, background processes, corrupt drivers, faulty direct x, etc.

Also: JM Pescado got wind of a post in another forum & put forth some advice. It partially worked. His advice at least got the game to a point where it not crash during the load. Now it crashes during play however.

Thus Far: I was able to get fairly far with his simple advice, so I have indeed slowly introduced CC, all new, none of it old, all of made specifically for the products I purchased. Yet the problems still exist, and I honestly believe that the bare naked product came out of the box BROKEN, thus it does battle with itself & produces anomalies. The form the game is in RIGHT NOW is with some CC. The logs show results that happen under any conditions (regarding duplicate audio resources & missing textures), and they show results that are unique to the introduction of a specific kind of CC, namely MATY hacks or other similarly authored third party content that effects globals. Things like hair, clothes, skins, makeup & objects work fine. Although most electronics and hobby type items do not. Generally, highly customized objects load and work fine. Example: The Insiminator & it's accompanying ephemera, Multi-Purpose Painting, things like that.

Ergo: I could submit a log from a naked install. I don't see the point since I had progressed somewhat with JMP's advice. I chose instead to submit the enclosed for examination.

Possibly Unrelated Aside: I found out just today that SecuROM was included on the Deluxe DVD. I thought that was a BV only thing. Well shoot me, i hadn't played the Sims 2 in a while and just got the internet again for the first time in quite a while. It's a crime to be out of the loop. A) there are no fixed no cd - exe's for the Deluxe DVD, so I've just left on the rig for now. B) I read an extensive report on beosboxboys BV problem, and it sounds alarmingly like not unlike my Deluxe DVD problem. His solution was radical. It entailed the hunting down & deletion of about 41 files 6.8 megs in size. Problem solved for bb. Not without ulcers, I am sure.

That's it. It is entirely possible that I have left something out even after the proof-read because I have typed this out so much & this problem has existed so long that it has numbed the mind somewhat. I am just hoping that a log analysis from someone who does more that just play the game will shed some light, perhaps give me an idea of how to cure my ill.

Sorry it's long, I am just trying to anticipate in advance any possible questions.
I've had no choice but to archive the logs because just one alone exceeds the 640k file limit.

Thanks.

*S*

ha, really? never gave it any thought... guess ya don't dig my cute mug, eh? i may dig that one up and use her again... but what about you? you need an avvy! glad ya liked the sig... it just saves time. people already know where i am coming from with that one...

that's what that is... the skeltons display route indicators. whatever modification you are using is somehow displaying them without the commandline use or a pie menu. usually, the pie menu is a modded mailbox. look for anything like that, ditch it. if you have some of the odd usenet object collections in use, or just present, ditch them too just to be sure. they access the command line commands via objects, not boolprop.

i still play a lot of older games from Sierra.... and i like all flavors of Gran Turismo, so i hang on to the console emulator for those. pretty much like turn based god games.... been bouncing between Empire Earth & Civ III for now. TS2 is on the back burner for a little bit. i also like arcade style stuff. I have copies of Chaos Defender, Fly or Die, Rescue from Space invaders, Zybex, Chicken Invaders... one i really love is Ragnarok....  and of course the old Atari & Namco games are always fun. these games just don't piss you off, never crash, have a high entertainment value and don't require 6 hours of unecessary reading to play. found a few old Xaxxon clones & i am digging on them in my free moments while on holiday. those kind are good time killers for the laptop while traveling. even have a copy of Railroad Tycoon... hmmm... II platinum i think it is? have that one going... and Tropico. don't ask me why i like these old games. guess they just have charm. pretty much do play all the civ games, even the free knock offs like Free Civ.... was disappointed with Alpha Centuri, but i have a thing going with it right now too...  haven't played Pirates, but may try it... still need to give Rise of Nations and SC4 a go, ha, i am stuck on SC3k...

welcome to your own place where even you, can be more awsome than you! fly your freak flag, brutha & spread those wings, cuz the sky's the limit!