Several months ago I noticed animations missing when two Sims are in the hot tub making out.  While doing the makeout interaction, their bodies only rock back and forth against the side of the tub, over and over again.  In the past, I distinctly remember further animations where the couple would also periodically move to the center of the hot tub while continuing to make out.  However, my Sims are no longer doing that, they just stay against the side of the tub.  This occurs with any Sim couple, in any hot tub (above ground or inset) on any lot, residential or community.  (Yes, I have tried deleting the hot tub and buying a new one.) 

All hot tub interactions are available, and I'm having no other problem using the tub.  It's just that these extra animations are missing from the makeout.  Not a big problem for me as far as affecting gameplay, but I'm just wondering why are they gone?  I'm not getting error messages, just the missing actions.  I can't pinpoint exactly when this started occuring, I just happened to notice it one day.  I do know that it was already occuring before I installed AL and M&G.

I have all EPs and SPs and my hacks are:

Romancemod
Norandomflirtwants
Simsky FasterEducation
Squinge Easy Breakup
Simwardrobe NoWitchesonCommunityLots, NoHobbyMannerisms

Thank you Selzi, I appreciate you providing this.  I have downloaded it so maybe it will prevent this glitch from happening again to my other Sims.  Thanks again.

Thank you so much ZephyZodiac for your patience and detailed help.  Some people here think everyone just "knows" how to do everything in the game.  But we have to be taught how.  Everyone had a starting point, remember?  Please be more considerate of this as we love the game too and want to enjoy it to the utmost.  That's what this community is here for:  to support and assist one another.

For some reason, the tutorials are not working in my SimPE.  I get an error page.  But I will definitely do the error log report.  I did not know how to generate this, and you explained it very clearly.  Thanks again.

From ZephyrZodiac:  "It should be fixable in SimPE, but I think if I were you I'd familiarise myself with the program first (and make sure you have the right version for the Expansions you are playing, if you've had it a long time without using it)."


I checked, and do have the right version for my Expansions.  I have made a back-up copy of my game.  I have no idea how to use SimPE, there is no guidebook???  I have read in other places here that there is a way to go into SimPE and mark or unmark check boxes:  for example to remove symbols such as "in love with" to change Sim relationships.  Wouldn't I be able to just go into SimPE and check the box for "married" between those two Sims to fix this problem?  If so, what are the exact steps to take to accomplish this?  There must be someone here who works with SimPE all the time and knows how to do this who can walk me through it.  Please help.

How do I turn on debug mode?  Please explain.  Is this an in-game process or related to SimPE?  Thanks a bunch....

Four of my college grads (not CAS) moved back to town into the same house together.  There are two couples.  I got the first couple engaged, then married.  No problem.  The next couple I got them engaged...everything fine.  Then went to propose marriage (guy asking girl) and the girl "jumped back" out of the action altogether.  The guy got the double wedding rings spinning above his head, but she didn't.  Their icons still showed only the "engaged" symbol.  He was still wearing engagement ring; she had no rings on.  Also, he had the "got married" memory, but she didn't.

So I exited game w/o saving, tried again this time alternating who was proposing (girl to guy),  same problem happened.  He gets the rings spinning above his head and the marriage memory.  She didn't.  Exited again, decided to try an actual ceremony with the wedding arch.  The cut scene played fine, but same thing happened.  Only he got the spinning double rings, she didn't.  No last name change.  Their icons still only showed "engaged."  However, both of them are now wearing wedding rings on their fingers.  Again, only he has the "got married" memory.  They still have different last names.  Also, in the relationship panel, it does not show them together as married in the family tree.  They are both shown separately as single.    Grrrrrrrrrrr and grrrrrrrrr!! 

I want them both to register "married" on their icons, not just engaged.  I want them to have the same last name.  Is this fixable in SimPE?  I have that program installed, but have never used it.  I can pull up the neighborhood that shows listing of all names in the neighborhood.  But what do I do from there?  I have no clue.  Can someone please walk me through it step by step?

Hacks installed:  Romance Mod, Norandomflirtwants, and EasyBreak-up.

Thank you for that link, Ethendrelle.  That was awesome of you.  Found it, got it!  Thanks again.   

Who is Squinge, where do I find him, and get this mod?  Please provide a link if possible.  I appreciate all your help.  (I checked the site you indicated, but did not find Squinge or this hack.)

What is the easiest way to make sims fall out of love (without getting angry at each other, etc.)?

I have several sims who have old lovers with whom they rarely interact anymore.  The relationship points are around 18/12, or 23/20.  But there is still a pink and red heart for both.  I want them to NOT be in love anymore, as they are happily in love/marriage in new relationships.  What to do?  I thought that by letting the relationship gradually decay, that they would fall out of love, but no such luck.   It's like, sorry honey I haven't called you in three years, but guess what...I still love you!  Bleh.

Yikes!  I have already done some of the stuff you mentioned.        Long time ago, nothing recently mind you, but done and did nevertheless.  Shall I now frantically bite my nails waiting for a BFBVFS?  Rats, in my favorite neighborhood, too.  Why can't we delete from the sim/lot bin?

"In RL, flirting is just another social interaction, if it were harmless and your spouse isn't watching "

In RL, it would depend on what the intention of the flirter is.  For Sim A and B who are in a committed relationship, for Sim A to go "flirt" with Sim C, what is your intention for Sim A as to why you directed it?  Do you want it to lead to something more?  If not, why would you do it?  In RL, this is called "leading someone on."  If you don't want the memory, just don't do it, unless you intend to follow it up with more romantic interactions.  There are plenty of other social interactions Sims can do (admire, play, dance, hug, dirty joke, dine out, etc.) to show emotional interest without triggering a crush/love relationship.

Now, what I consider "way out" is when two Sims who just met will lock lips in a good-bye kiss when they part company.  This doesn't happen in RL!  Honestly, I had a pair who's relationship was at 3/0, do the moaning kiss good-bye!  What gives?  This same pair would shoo the other off if the suggestion of playing red hands were introduced, but gimme a lip smacker to send me off?  You bet!  I have also had the greeting "smooch" kiss counted as a "kissed so&so for the first time" memory.  Don't know if that's a glitch, 'cause it doesn't always occur.

Just want to say I have the Romance Mod and No Random Flirt Wants installed.  They are just great and add much more realism to the game.  I love seeing my engaged and married couples nix any flirting that comes their way so I don't have to worry about dealing with unwanted love/crushes popping up all over.  I had one Sim that I directed to flirt (unsuccessfully) with a married Sim lady three times when I was testing this Mod in my game.  Their relationship was at 100/83.  He was so frustrated, that he next rolled a want to buy a love potion!  Ha ha!

Thank you everyone.  And thank you NotVeryAwesome, you are quite...well, awesome for giving me that info.  I will look into that "Easy breakup" thingy.  Yay.

Is there a hack which allows two Sims to get a divorce quietly by mutual consent without one or the other actually making a big ugly mess of the relationship by having an affair in front of each other?  I have a few Sim couples that are married and aren't really attracted to each other and I'd like to get them married off to other Sims to which they really ARE attracted.  However, I'd like these Sims to stay friends and not go through the furious state.

Thank you Magicmoon, that link was exactly what I needed.  Fabulousoso!  Or as my male Sims say, "COWAG!"

I am new here and having some difficulty navigating to find what I need.  Is there a place here that lists all the hacks with a description of exactly and precisely what each does, point by point, to change the normal Maxis gameplay?  Specifically, I am looking for a description of the Romance Mod and NoRandomFlirting hacks, and similar related hacks.  I am aware of the Director's Cut zip download, but there is no description in there of what each hack does or what I can expect to see different in my game.

Along with that, I have a couple of questions about the two hacks I mentioned.  For the No Random Flirting hack:

  1.  What is considered actual flirting?  Is it a direct romantic-type interaction between Sims, such as Kissing Hand or Hug Romantically?  Does following a Sim around the room, making hubba hubba gestures with heart showers spraying, and constantly wanting to autonomously choose that particular Sim to interact with over a spouse constitute flirting?  (Seems like it!)  I have lots of Sims doing this who are married/engaged and it bugs me.  Should I not be concerned?

  2.  Does this hack prevent autonomous flirting between any two Sims?  For example, what if they are best friends but extremely attracted to each other?  Or does this hack only affect acquaintances?  I find that my Sims will tend to gaze after another Sim and want to be around them and have accompanying thought bubbles of the other Sim when that Sim is a new "prospect" rather than when in established relationships.  Often seems like the one they are in love with or like a lot gets left out in the cold while they're pursuing the fresh meat that just walked in the door.  The way they crane their whole necks around in a ridiculous way to keep their eye on a new Sim is so funny.

Finally for the Romance Mod:  Will this hack prevent Sims with aspirations other than Romance, from rolling wants to flirt with Sims other than their spouse?  And if they have cheated on their spouse, and are in love with another Sim in the same room, will it prevent them from showing flirtatious-type behavior to their own spouse in front of their lover?  Also, will it inspire more protective behavior over a spouse, such as when another Sim seems to be coming on strong to a mate, will the husband or wife step in and try to divert the situation?  I have a couple who are crazy about each other, 3 bolts, autonomously desire each others' company, yet when another male Sim starts to hone in on the wife, the husband chooses to go outside and play fetch with the dog!  Or get the mail or something dumb, instead of looking at the other guy as a threat.  One more thing, I had a situation with teens:  the guy was a Fortune Sim, the girl was a Family.  Their friendship was up to about 78/74.  I had planned on just keeping them friends.  He invited her over, and immediately after a greeting hug (not romantic) she proceeds to kiss him romantically ( I had no control over her as she was a guest) which made them both fall in love with each other---against my plans!  It happened too quickly for me to cancel the action.  I can't believe she would do that as a Family Sim and she only had 3 shy points.  So now I have to deal with this.     Will this hack prevent episodes such as this?