Meh. When I get done the Windows 7 upgrade from hell that just won't end I will test this out myself.

I wonder if moving the mods all the way out of the Electronic Arts/The Sims 3/ etc tree would make a difference. Like if I made C:\Sims3mods and then pointed the resource.cfg to look there.

I don't understand this at all. It shouldn't be looking there or even know that directory exists. It sounds like voodoo to me. Until I hear from someone who has looked at the inner workings of the game and can give a reason for this I will continue to think so.

I figured. I love how one person does a dumb thing and blames something else completely else unrelated and suddenly it spreads around the whole community like wildfire.

I've already seen people running around telling everyone you need your library families restored on 5 different boards now. 

I still think the sims3packs won't install if you have mods in a mods folder the game never installed in the first place and technically shouldn't even know is there thing is bs too.

I'm fairly certain the cloning thingamabob gives your new object a new id automatically, but I guess that's an Inge/Peter Jones question.

http://www.simlogical.com/Sims3ToolsForum/index.php?board=20.0

http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/sims/sims3/patches/Sims3_1.2.7.00002_from_1.0.631.00002.exe

Which I believe is Razor/Euro. change the last digit on both version #s to 1 for US or 7 for Direct Download.

Well a couple of us stuck them up on file sharing sites but then someone else just said they patched without them in place just fine.

There's a lot of conflicting reports going around and people yelling that the sky is falling bla bla.

I also think this claim that you can't install sims3pack files via the launcher if you have mods in the mods directory is rather suspect. That seems like a lot of effort for EA to go to and too odd for randomness.

Err, he already designed Awesomemod to separate out the story elements and let Indie Stone control them if its in place. Other than that there really isn't much else he can do. It's up to them to update their mod to work with the latest patch.

Yep. Here is the original file if you need it:

http://www.mediafire.com/?yfbmymytmny

Well the should still bel on the CD, I believe in GameData\Shared\NonPackaged\Library but to make it simple here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LOILEQC0

It was just Baker, Funke, Glover-Wozny, Lum, Martinez and Williams I think. At least that's all I have.

I suspected EA treachery backed them up.

Edit: Ah nm Idjiit beat me to it. Oh well, there's a mirror now.

Err, the crashing on startup is a known issue when using mods. Reinstalling will not solve it.

See here and here.

Yeah, sometimes I just want to change their hair or clothes or something stupid like that but am not particularly interested in playing them and don't necessarily need all their wants and inventory etc etc data tracked like I would a sim I want to play.

I guess a way to select whether we want a townie to act like a 'virgin' one that we never touched or one that we do want to lock and come back to would be nice.


Ugh. How anal. Why is the patch worried about whether you have those damned families installed. *sigh* Good thing I backed them up.

Still taking their asses back out again. It causes trouble with Indie to have them in there, possibly with just the game itself as it tends to like to create new sims and families based on them.


True, but I suspect it may work in a somewhat similar manner. I think it's an object, a hidden one. Perhaps they've jiggered a way to keep it on the lot after it gets bulldozed too? I can hope.

I suppose we'll find out soon enough when someone reports back.

Here: http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/sims/sims3/patches/Sims3_1.2.7.00002_from_1.0.631.00002.exe

or here: http://www.simprograms.com/the-sims-3-patches/patches-the-sims-3/

It's up on torrent sites too.

And for all you tards saying you are removing mods so you can install the patch even after Pescado told your asses it serves no god damned purpose you are idiots performing voodoo that does nothing.

99% of "mods" are package files that reside in the Mods subdirectory that you created. You. Not the game. The game has nothing to do with that and it will never look there.

Now if by "mod" you mean an ini or shader package or else something that does not normally reside in the Mods directory or one of its subdirectories then yes, you will need to remove that but not just remove it you will need to restore the original file that you replaced or modified.

Now it's possible there may be some conflicts with certain mods, particularly core ones, and the patch, but that in and of itself will not prevent the game from patching.

Yep. Just change all of them. Make a backup copy before you do just so you have the original values and in case the patch decides to get picky about modified files.

It's not necessary. You modify the "DynamicAvoidance*" settings yourself in file C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin\Sims3.ini

Either half them from the defaults as JBoat did or just set them totally to 0 if you don't mind them completely walking through each other.

Mismatched tops and bottoms for all? 

Well couldn't you do a quick fix to disable full body outfits from generating on townies for everyday outfits? The game really heavily biases toward them and there's not very many or very appropriate ones.

Besides the damned overalls, I'm also getting that women's full body suit with the asymmetrical belt showing up a lot.

Otherwise I guess I can try and hunt for the damned file settings and see if I can remove or reclassify it, but it would have been nice had they made it a separate sims3pack and not quietly slipped it in with Riverview.


Err, that will delete all your custom content, or at least everything installed via the sims3pack and not the Delphy way. Seems rather extreme to get rid of one outfit but if you're fine with that. *shrug*

Yeah, the 'pineapple-less' hair does that too. Seems he didn't change the alpha on the LOD meshes.

I never used that one but you can still left click on the happiness points screen next to the treasure box to add more points as long as you have testingcheatsenabled set on in the awesomeconfig.

Seems to me they should be able to after cooking a high quality meal, like perfect and maybe outstanding and excellent. That makes more sense than boasting about supposed cooking skill from reading a book or watching a TV show. 

Possibly in the Neighborhood Workshop? I know you can modify some settings of an individual sim in your savegame, but I haven't really messed with outfit settings yet.

Oh by the way, I peeked at the Peggy and SAU hairs in Milkshape. Besides the rather high-ish poly counts, which quite frankly I expected, they didn't even bother to make new LOD meshes. They just pasted the same damned high poly one in 4 times over. It seriously takes like like 5 seconds to run a mesh through a filter to reduce the poly count.

Oh and she also has them marked to spawn on new randomly generated townies. So what this means is you could end up with multiple sims running around town with high poly hair that is being rendered even when the camera is very far away from them and you can't make out any detail anyway.

He did? Ugh, I didn't look so I didn't even notice. Shame on him! 

Anyway, he's got a free alien truck here: http://sims3tinkers.com/smf/index.php?topic=314.0

Some other new objects there too.

Few questions.

Is there a way to tell which jobs and modes of working within those jobs are 'social' in groups vs not? Loner sims get negative moodlets from being around groups of people, but I notice sometimes if I switch modes it will go away. Some are obvious, like independent research, but I'm just curious if it's known which modes are group work vs individual and which careers are better suited to loners.

How efficient is sleeping at work/school vs the bed? Would it make sense for a tired sim to arrive at work early as possible and sleep until work starts?

Does "Going to work" incur any bonus or penalty or is it keeping the bar from neither going up nor down.

I'm doing 1680x1050 windowed. It's my flat screen's native resolution.

Hmm, odd. I know if a 'perform experiment on' succeeds you can get effects like that, but in this case you're right, clearly it should be after eating the food.

As an aside, I suspect the mysterious and much discussed "Beautiful Vista" is probably emanating from a hidden object emitter like this and is not inherent to the lot.