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So...I only have the basic Sims 2 installed.  Eventually I plan on getting University, and eventually after that, I plan on getting Nightlife.  When I started my new neighborhood, I didn't want any Townies or anything - just the basic NPCs that you need.  So of course I used the "delete all characters" command.

The problem is, I want to play this neighborhood forever, and I don't want lots of extra clutter.  So when I install University, of course I'll install the "no dormie regeneration" hack - but I won't be able to use the "delete all characters" command because that would kill my neighborhood sims that I play.

So...let's assume I buy University, install it, and before ever sending a sim to University, I open up SimPE and manually delete all the character files that don't belong to my own, playable characters, and the critiical NPCs (the Reaper, etc).  This will in effect achieve what I want, correct? (No extraneous characters cluttering up the neighborhood).  The game will automatically generate the critical sims it needs (like it did for the maid, the driver, the nanny, etc), correct?  So I'll still have professors and secret society members and all that - without a big fiery ball etc etc.  Does all this sound right, or am I missing something?

Honestly, I don't know if I'd mess with it until and unless Quaxi does that full deletion of characters and all accompanying data feature in SimPE. There's just a lot to mess with and it can get really messy.

If you absolutely must do it, then hook up the university town to your main town and immediately exit and do the deed before those townies and such have any chance to interact with anyone.

I'm also not even sure if you can have secret society members without townies/dormies. If you delete them all and then have no regen, I'm not convinced the game will regenerate them.

Well, I deleted all characters with uni, and although simPE shows two or three recreated dormies, they never show up on lots at all!  And if you're going to do it manually, I'd suggest that first you check their relationships as some of them  seem to start the game with relationships to each other or the mascots etc., in which case, you'd need to delete those memories from those NPCs memory files.

Although I've never used the function myself, the NPC/Townie Maker that is available under the boolprop debug mode has an option to "Kill all Townies".  I'm assuming it simply gives all townies dead tokens, but I'm not sure.  It's unlikely that it deletes them, but you might fire up a separate neighborhood and give it a try.  Students show up in the regular townie family hive so when you get University its an option for getting rid of them.

What I did wonder, though, is if you remove your saved games to the desktop before installing Uni, then run deleteallcharacters before copying your folders back in, whether that might work.  You'd have to be prepared for a lot of pauses while the game generates new NPCs etc., though.

Wouldn't that be a problem because some sims would have memories of having met some of the old NPCs who are no longer in the game? Or since the sam NPCs get generated would it just assume that the memories from meeting the old Kaylynn (or whatever the maid's name is) apply to the new Kaylynn?

Well, if you take the complete neighbourhood folder and put it on the desktop, Kaylynn will be there!  If you then install Uni and delete all characters, then neither |Kaylynn or any other maid or whatever will be in the game copy - it will be empty.  Then, if you copy the original folder back (note I say move to desktop, but copy back (that way if it goes pearshaped, you haven't lost your hood)  everything and allow windows to overwrite every folder in the neighbourhood, you should just have your originals in there. You can check your character folder in simPE if you want, just to be sure it's worked.   The game will only generate replacement NPCs for those that you don't have, such as cheerleaders, professors etc.

Got it. Thanks. I was thinking that the NPCs weren't part of the neighborhood  (like playable sims) and wouldn't be saved.

Every sim the game ever created, including ghosts, barista spam etc, will be in the Character folder unless you remove them yourself!

As I think I said, I don't know if it will work, but it seems to me that it might, and it's certainly worth trying.

Just be careful with the University part.   I did a few deleteallcharacters and notice that I needed to go play at least once with the Sims that were place in the college lots otherwise those lots were becoming corrupted, I was never able to load them either the game just show the glasshour meter indefinitely or the game crash.  If you load them once, move them do the bin and delete them either within the familybin or by a delleteallcharacters you should be ok.

The game does not let us move those characters to the bin unless we played the lots at least once.  I mostly choose Academie La Tour when I do that since there is no greek house in that neighborhood.  I wonder if by moving the greek member out of the house it will become a normal resident lot or do we need to change zoning.

Well, I did it in this latest neighbourhood, and it never caused any crashes!  But the game will freeze for a while when it needs to generate a new NPC, and maybe this could cause your game to crash?

Did you try to edit a house in which there was Sims previously place there by the game?  This is when my game locks, it only crash once. 

In Veronaville I had the same problem, I use a deleteallcharacters and after that I decided to edit the houses and prepare them for the families I will create, I was never able to load houses in which families were in, I needed to move them all to the familybin previously.

I have Nightlife in case it does make a difference.  I never really done it before Nightlife.

Well, I don't have Nlghtlife yet. 

In answer to the problems about houses, though, I've used both frat houses in La fiesta, and also the Shifting Paranormals house.  I haven't used the big expensive house, but I have re-decorated and refurnished it, plus done some rebuilding so there was more than one bedroom and bathroom!  It seemed ok, saved a couple of times without any problems.  every othr house I've rebuilt, turned into dorms, moved sims in, turned back into residential, all without any hitches.  considering how many I had when I used La fiesta with Strangetown, this is good!

Well after you install Nightlife (if ever you do) try it and let me know since I am starting to wonder if anything is wrong in my game.  :-\

So I create a neighborhood, choose a University, choose a downtown section then use the deleteallcharacters.  When I do that way I cannot load houses in which Sims were in.

If I create a neighborhood, choose a University, choose a downtown section then load University part, play 2 sim min. with each family, save, move them to the family bin, delete them all from the bin and then only do a deleteallcharacters then I am ok and can go and edit any houses.  But, in another post I mention that when I deleted the characters of those 3 neighborhoods at all once and recreated them all with Boolprop, the Sims I create afterward all have funny aspiration/LTW which are not related.  But I can use the Renuyu-U and they can get to normal after that but I have no idea if all the townies/NPC are ok or if they will act weird.

Maybe I will push this further and create another neighborhood and delete them and simply see what will happen, I am just tired of waisting my time doing it over and over again these days, I want to play!  :P

Have you tried uninstalling Nightlife, creating the Uni hood you want, then, if it works, backing it up before trying Nightlife again?  If it goes pear-shaped, at least you'll know for certain that it's NL that caused the problem, if it doesn't, then your original install may not have installed properly.  (I had that happen the first time I installed Uni, and quite a few other people posted with the same problem over at simFreaks.)  Unforutnately, I think you'd have to do a complete clean uninstall reinstall of everything, but it might be worth it.  that was how I solved my problem with Uni.

Thanks I will consider this as a last but valuable option.  ;D

Once you make your mind up to do it, it doesn't take all that long, sims2 is the worst, but the EPs aren't so bad - it's having to keep typing in the number of your copy, plus constantly swapping CDs that takes the time!

I don't know if this is possible, but you can create college town templates.  You could create a college in another neighbourhood using one of the standard university templates, delete all characters there, then use the empty college neighbourhood as a template to add to your base neighbourhood.   It may not work, I don't know if the game would generate new townies as soon as you associate a new college with it.

Did not took me long to made-up my mind, I just uninstall everything, what better time then now since I just resetted my game anyway!

Well now I'm off to play the little matching game when we install Sims 2, I wonder what score I will have  :P

EDIT:  It is done now with no problem at all reinstalling all of them + Nightlife patch.  Now let's see what will happen now.

Do let us know if it works  - I'm sure there will be other folks who would be glad to know, (me too, since it was only a guess!)

Well so far it was a good suggestion, I assign a dowtown section and Académie Le tour to Veronaville, did a deleteallcharacters in the University section, went back to regular neighborhood clic on a house in which there was some Sims before and it loaded like a charm.  So I went back to University section and did the same with no problem either.

Now all is left for me to test is if after I recreated all the NPC and townies if I will have Sims with funny aspiration/LTW again.

I will edit this post when I have the result.

EDIT:  thanks a million Zephyr it seems to have been a faulty installation.  I created all the NPC and townie for Veronaville in regular, downtown and University neighborhoods using boolprop, then I created 9 sims and they all have related aspiration/LTW.  Thanks for pointing that solution to me I wouldn't have thought of that. Now it's time to have fun  ;D

It's nice to know I was right!  And if I need to do the same before I install NL, at least I'll know what to do!  I'm glad everything's working smoothly now!

This is available now in the Beta Testing version (49) and it works miracles.  I got rid of 40 characters today and there is no trace left of them, not even invisible memories.  There is still some manual editing to do insofar as if, for instance, the first kiss/woohoo was with a deleted Sim, you need to add that memory to the second person they got to know 'that way' instead.  Similarly, one of 'Two Loves' removed would necessitate removing the "Had 2 Loves at Once" memory if only one remains, but it's a small price to pay for the ease of removing characters who've become a waste of space.  I had so many lots I hadn't played in months, with Sims who were still at the start of adulthood when people born after them were dead or nearly dead, so it felt great to finally get rid of them for good.  I have a few more I will probably delete as well. 

Is this the QA version, Ancient? I have that, but don't know how to delete the characters. How do you do it?

*blinks* me too. I have that version but didn't realize it could safely delete characters now.

ooooh great. My brother made some legacy families in my game and then deleted them but their useless character files are still clogging my game. And he also made a family to test a hacked object he downloaded (without my permission no less).

I'd love to be able to delete them but unfortunately, some of my sims still have memoriies of them, especailly the one legacy family that was around for a while.

I'm getting those jagged line things, so I obviously didn't do something right when I tried deleting characters, myself. I'll be damned if I can find the mistake on my own. And here Simpe has been able to do this since .49 has been out? I feel a bit...dumb.

On the SimPE website, I only see the download for the .48 version - no .49 version.  Is that available someplace not-obvious that i'm not looking?

.49 is the QA version. You have to be a member of the QA group to download it. I don't think it's available to the general public, is it? I never tried before signing up for QA.

I used DeleteAllCharacters after creating a neighorhood, college and downtown.  Mostly I was interested in having reasonable character names using one of the normal names hacks.

I was able to force generation of townies, NPC's and downtownies with no problems.  But no dormies were generated until I actually sent a Sim to uni.  Enough dormies were made to fill the dorm, maybe a few more.  My Sim's College Directory was empty, however.  Made a second Sim, moved him into another dorm, he had all the dormies from the first dorm in his college directory.  Both SS members mentioned below moved into his dorm too. :)

Here's where it gets interesting:  After creating my first Sim and letting the dorm fill, I sent her to a community lot with 4 band instruments, and she was joined by several Sims, all from her dorm except two secret society members.  The dormies got on the instruments and I expected to have to listen to horrible sounds, but they were great!  Obviously they all had reasonably high creativity skills, at least around 5, going by the amount they got in tips.  I don't think I've even seen a dormie start with any creativity skills.

I'm gonna have to check the dormies with Merola's mirror to see what other surprises they hold.

Also, learned something new:  asking another Sim if they like what they see, if you ask them twice you get to see both their turn-ons.  Or their turn-off, if it's appropriate.  "Naw, I like fat chicks."  That one cracked me up. :)

Hook

Well Hook and Zephyr, I thought I should let you know of my little experiences of today.  Though I said by reinstalling it seems to be ok (I only tested Veronaville) after I created a custom neighborhood I added a University and downtown then delete all characters, I ended up with the same aspiration/LTW I had in the past, they did not match.  That was after I add all the neeeded NPC and townie in all neighborhoods of the game. :(  I've never actually run into any problem creating those NPC or townie, the problems started afterward when I created my first YA, they both did not had matching aspiration/LTW.

In order to have the game create all the 50 University townies, you must create a Sim you move into a private house and then use the boolprop to "dpg create townies", it will create only University townie, in regular neighbohrood it wont create either University townie or NPC.  You can create downtown townies and NPC downtown while on regular neighborhood.   

I've been doing experiments all day, now the one I am into right now is in a custom neighborhood I created, I added only a downtown section, I will now delete all characters, regenerate them with boolprop then create a custom University section.  I will keep you posted on the result of that test.

Hook you would be very kind to check the aspiration of the YA and regular neighborhood Sims you created and let me know if in your case they have matching aspiration/LTW.

I don't mind doing those test since I did a back-up of my Sims 2 folder right after I install the game so I can place it back at any time and start doing more test. Thanks  ;D

It's odd that you keep getting this mismatch of LTWs.  I've got a neighbourhood which I've been playing recently, deleted All Townies, have notownieregenertion installed.  All my sims have matching LTWs with their aspirations.  The only odd thing that happens is with Autoyak, when they've scrolled through the list of their friends, they end up talking to an invisible sim, and when I look in FSSDebugger it shows the clear all offworld loiterers, which I do, and the sim puts the phone down!

Well I have Nightlife don't forget so maybe it could explain it? ??? I sure hope so, I am waiting for Hook reply because I think he/she have Nightlife install and the patch that goes with it.

Or maybe it is because I am doing it at all once, delete them, recreate them and add a bunch of Sims I don't know  :-\.

I tend to think it's Nightlife.

*Sigh* It did not work either, the 1st Sim I created had again unmatch aspiration/LTW, even worst, I went in Pleasantview and loaded the Dreamer house for the 1st time and the father which is a knowledge Sim ended up with a LTW of having 6 grandchildren.  Oh well I tried about everything I could think of... maybe Nightlife does not like when we delete the characters of downtown...

I will keep the townies that comes with the custom neighborhoods until someone found a way to get around this.

No hack, mod or custom stuff is causing this since I don't have any in my game.

I hope all these tests can and will be useful to others so I will at least know I did not waste my time doing all this  ;)  I am too much of a perfectionist I guess lol.

I'm sure people will find what you've discovered to be useful!  Have you tried altering their LTWs?   Be careful if you decide to do it in simPE - they don't in my experience get permaplat if you do - you get the message that they have achieved it, but it doesn't materialise!

Hi Missdoh.  I created two YA popularity Sims, both had reasonable wants.  One wanted to be a General, which works for popularity.  The other I don't remember, but it didn't seem odd.  I'll let you know next time I fire up the game.  Both of these YA Sims were created after I installed the Nightlife patch.

The adult was created before the patch as popularity and had a normal LTW.  After she got married I changed her aspiration to Family and she had a want to graduate 3 children from college.  Her hubby was a townie, he had a normal family want to marry off 6 children.  These Sims won't be achieving their lifetime wants. :)

The couple's daughter had a normal LTW for popularity as well.

I haven't checked the LTW's of all the newly generated dormies, but I did check their skills, and they all had a few points in every skill, the most in creativity which was normally around 5.

I wish I'd known to use DBG Force Create Townies in the Uni neighborhood.  As it is they are being created as needed which seems to be working.  I'd go ahead and create the rest if someone can assure me it will work ok;  i.e. not delete the ones I already have and not make way too many.

Hook

Ugh. Townies. Say, that'd make a good pokemon spinoff. GOTTA NUKE 'EM ALL! Maybe I should put that on my list of "bad anime parodies to do with the sims."

This deletion feature has finally convinced me to join the QA. The e-mail was in German, but I can read "click here" in just about any language. Heh.

Yes I did when I 1st notice it was happening but I used the renuyu-U, by making Sim choose an aspiration related with the lifetime showing it was ok afterwad, I could make them change over and over and they add LTW/aspiration.  I just don't understand why the game gives strange LTW/aspiration all of a sudden after the creation of a custom neighborhood and deleteallcharacters.  Well maybe I am just too much of a perfectionist but the only thing that bothers me is the fact they have those mixed-up LTW/aspiration and I don't know if it can in any way affect the game or not.  If not I will stop thinking about that and enjoy it instead.  :D

I don't have SimPe, have no idea how it works though they have great tutorials on their website, I just want to see if the game by itself can handle it without having to use external tools.

Hook, I have a question for you. Did you created the townie, downtown townie and regular neighborhood NPC only or did you also created the "EP2 NPC" which is an option on the 3rd menu you get when you clic the mailbox using boolprop?

What I will do now in create again a custom neighborhood add a downtown section, deleteallthecharacters, but create only the townie, downtown townie and regular NPC.  As for University I will create a custom one.

Wish me luck lol

I just created townies, downtownies and normal NPC's.  I don't remember creating EP2 NPC's but I might have.

I rechecked some of the new dormies as well as my CAS students and all the LTW's I saw were normal.

Hook

For the moronsamungus, what's the best way to create your own townies/dormies?

Since NL, all Townies sound better on instruments. I guess it's something they fixed. :)

I liked it when they couldn't play - gave sims who could a chance to get nasty!

Is it just me, or do the townies now have a lot more skills in other areas, as well?

For those of you asking (Brynne & Motoki, I think), Quaxi does actually tell you how to delete characters in the version 49 thread in the Q & A forum, but anyway here's how it's done:

Bring the character up in Sim Description and highlight them, then click on "Window" at the top left, then Resource Actions.  Click on Delete Character in the BOTTOM box (Plugin) and follow the instructions.  Takes a few seconds and it wipes out the entire character - they disappear from the game, everyone's relationship panel and all their memories go, including invisible ones.  Total and utter annihilation and completely painless!

Be careful with this, though.  No doubt it will be improved upon, but I had a big glitch with it today.  One of my Sims had constant error messages about "Missing neighbor for data access", whatever that means and it spread to her husband after a short while.  All I could do was delete her, but it happened when she came back.  Even moving the family to a new house didn't stop it.  I had to start all over again and delete small groups until I isolated the problem family - I knew straightaway because when I tried to load their lot the game crashed.  Once I put them back, everything was fine.  Going by the error message, I can only assume she was talking to one of them on a community lot or something and it's caused a problem.

I did manage to spawn the Tombstone of L&D in between error messages and was able to get her to die of old age, but because of the errors the Reaper only appeared for a few seconds.  She had no tombstone, no inheritance, and no one had any memory of her death, although she did appear as dead in their family panels.  I got her son to resurrect her, but she still had the error messages, which was when I realised I'd have to start all over again.  The strangest thing was the message I got when she was resurrected.  Instead of her name appearing, it said "*Social - Talk - Chat has been resurrected", which sounded even more as if she'd been talking to one of the deleted people when they disappeared from the game.

I deleted 40 characters in one go in my game, but I am now going to stick to removing a few at a time.  I could get this error again because I have no idea who has been talking to who on downtown lots, but that's a risk I'm prepared to take because the tool is so useful.  I have so many houses I never play because the inhabitants bore me to tears and this is a painless way of disposing of them.  I decided to get rid of the two toddlers Don Lothario had to two women in the same house by virtue of LizzLove's waterbed, because it just didn't seem right when his other children are either elders or almost elders, but in the end I had to delete their mothers as well.  I just couldn't bear to look at the empty cots, the highchairs in the kitchen and the little toys dotted here and there.  I felt like a murderer, killing two innocent little girls who could have grown-up together and been best friends.

Finally, one thing to remember is that although all memories pertaining to the deleted Sim are removed, secondary memories aren't - for instance, if they had their first woo-hoo with that Sim, that memory will disappear and the first woo-hoo memory will come again the next time they woo-hoo, so you would need to add a first woo-hoo memory to the next Sim they woo-hooed with if they've woo-hooed more than once.  Similarly, if prior to the woo-hoo (or instead of a woo-hoo), they fell in love with that Sim and this resulted in them having "Two Loves at Once", they would keep the "Two Loves at Once" memory even if now they only had the one love, so that would need deleting also.  Hope this all makes sense.  (And no, there aren't too many woo-hoos in this paragraph, you can never have too many woo-hoos).

Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you, Ancient! I have some characters that "bore me to tears" as well, and I've been dying to get rid of them. I also have a few families I'd like to prune. And, no, I don't mean Don Lothario's family, lol! He's keeping all 9 toddlers whether he likes it or not!
So the children, toddlers, and babies shouldn't be as troublesome to delete then, right? I don't recall seeing children on any of the downtown lots I "frequent". And they certainly would have no woohoo memories!  ::) 

Well, most children, toddlers & babies wouldn't have woo-hoo memories, no.  However, Don Lothario's children, toddlers & babies probably do - hundreds of invisible ones courtesty of their father.

And now I feel so bloody AWFUL about those toddlers I think I am going to have to put my back-up in yet again and bring them back.  In fact, as one of the mothers is an elder and the other is 2 days off, maybe I will kill them off, then prolong Don's life with a full bottle of elixir (3 days left on his second run of elderhood) and let him raise them.  He should be OK as long as he pops-off before they hit their teens.

Give me a vote - should I bring them back or not?  And if so, should they stay with their mothers (who are in love with half the neighbourhood and each other because of the waterbeds ... and they're not even Romance Sims), or should Don bring them up.

And Don has NINE toddlers in your game?  Is this in addition to older children or has he only got toddlers so far?  How many mothers are involved?  I am going to have to resurrect him again, I think.  I just can't play that neighbourhood without him in it.  He's an absolute scream since NL came out.  He walks around Downtown goosing everyone he fancies and starting fights with those he doesn't (and even those he does in some cases).  He argues like crazy with Lilith Dreamer, but they still fancy each other.  No, can't let Don go (nor Lilith either, for that matter).

Well Hook you probably did not create the EP2 NPC since I did not and I don't seem to have a problem with mixed LTW/aspiration.  there might be something wrong with forcing it, I don't know yet, I will do one last test tomorrow which will be create all sections, delete characters, add them all except for EP2 NPC and I will see if I have mix LTW/aspirations or not.  If not well I will not create those EP2 NPC again and will let the game do it on its own.

The last neighborhood I created I did not add anything at the start, deleted all the characters, add a downtown section, create a custom University neighborhood (I was sad to see the Sim State University townie and NPC are used as default) and so far I had no problem with LTW/aspiration.

Yes, nine children. And they are his only children. Welcome to fatherhood, Don! They are all the offspring of Joe and Bella. I enjoy Justin and his two younger sisters (all three are Joe-Bella offspring), so I wanted some more Goth-Bayfields to play. Joe's married to someone else, so marrying Bella isn't an option at this point. I have considered that, though. They have strong chemistry. But I digress...I wanted to pick and choose which kids to take, so Bella just kept popping those puppies out until I found the two I wanted. Joe adopted those two (there were 11 toddlers in all) and I couldn't just kill or delete the other 9 because, well, did you see their pics? lol! So I decided to spring 'em all on Don.

I vote for Don to raise your two toddlers. He really is a good dad! He might not get much romantic action for quite some time, however, but in your game it won't be as extreme as it is in mine. I have a picture of Don on the toilet, surrounded by toddlers. He can't get a moment's peace! Very funny situation.

I agree, don is a fantastic dad, although in my game the most he's ever had in any version has been twins!  But he's also a great grandad as well, and often makes best friends with a toddler grandchild before their parents do (I say grandchildren, but this is in the game where he's married to Brandi, so they're actually HER grandchildren - but she doesn't ever bother to visit!

Oh, wow, Don married to Brandi...That's a combination I never considered!

It works!  She wants it as much as he does!  I realised it in one version of my game where she got a job in the medical profession, and even though he was married to someone else, she kept ON coming home with him (or her) after work, and swooning over him more than normal!  Since he's far more active than her, he has time to hear kids read and stuff like that, he's not always lounging on the sofa playing SSX3!

A little update on the last test I am running.  In the neighborhood I created yesterday which seems to run fine,  a problem I had reappeared which was not able to load house in which there were Sims in before I did a deleteallcharacters (in a college neighborhood). 

So I rolled up my sleeves and decided to start another and last neighborhood instead (that is for test part) and place back my back-up and recreate again a new neighborhood.  For the loading house part it worked (in college neighborhood), but an important thing is that I notice (and I have no idea if it was like that before Nightlife) if you create a custom neighborhood, add a pre-made Maxis University and downtown section you must do the deleteallcharacters in University neighborhood view otherwise it seems that there is no way to load lots in which there were Sims before I did that code (well that is in my game).

I will keep you posted for the rest of the test.  What I have left to do is:  add regular townie, NPC, downtown townie and Univeristy townie, create a few sims and see if the LTW/aspiration mix-up will happen again or not.

I will keep you posted with the result.

Makes sense and explains my lack of problems as I simply loaded my custom hood, added the university and loaded it, then did deleteAllCharacters.  None of the campus houses or facilities have failed to load.

So far so good, I created all the townies and NPC (except for the Ep2 NPC).  Created 1 Sim and it did not have mixed aspriation/LTW like it used too.

I took that Sim downtown so the game would start generate the downtown NPC and it worked fine.

Tonight I will create more Sims in both regular and University neighborhoods and hope for the best.

I really wish tonight I will do my last post in regards of this since I really like the last neighborhood I created.

Crossing fingers  ;D

Ancient, thank you so much for the tutorial for removing characters with SimsPE.  I'll have to wait for v.49 to be released to the general public, too, but I have a whole Sim Bin full of boring Sims I created.  I almost feel sorry for them, like they are stuck in Sims Purgatory, but I don't want them breeding/interacting/fighting/kicking trash cans in my neighborhood anymore.  This one I hope to keep going past the 3rd generation before it's FUBAR'ed. 

Ancient, I've been trying to pm you, but your inbox is apparently full. Anyway, I haven't messed around with my characters, yet, because I had an unfortunate "disappearing neighborhood" problem I've been trying to fix. 

Ancient Sim

I tried this (I have version 49) but no Resource Actions could I find!  HELP!  (Also tried finding the tutorial at SimPE Forum, but could only find a very basic one on editing sims, the one you mention may be somewhere, but I couldn't find it.

Its a tiny little side tab all the way at the top right.

Just had a look but I can't find it anywhere!  I guess I need some new glasses!

Just thought, maybe I needed a later version than .35 before I got the .49 update?

Me too! I'm also blind. I hate to be a pain in the ass, but can someone post a picture or very detailed instructions for dummy's how to find it?

Maybe it's the layout I have going or my resolution size that is hiding it but I honestly cannot find it to save my life and it's driving me nuts! lol

hmm well ZephyrZodiac AncientSim said it should be in the "Window" toolbar menu dropdown, its not there either? I am at work so I cant look at it right now.

I never said that!  I quoted Ancient Sim!  I can't find it either!

Anyway, I've turned Goopy and all his townie mates into babies for now, just hope it still works.  At least my playable sims won't be meeting that lot at school, but until I play Downtown I'm not too sure who are playables and who aren't.

fat finger day

Under Window I have the following:

New Document Container
Resource Actions
Filter Resources
Plugin View
Resource Tree
Wrapper Information
Hex Editor
Object Workshop
Resource Information
Resource Finder
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I tried looking through all of those but I just cannot seem to find it.

I don't even have Window 1! :'(

Which edition of SimPE do you have?

Guys, you want to select "Resource Actions" under the "Window" option.  You're almost there  ;D

Zephyr, are you sure you have the QA version?  The one you have to sign up for and get approved for?  I was confused at first too, until I realized I had the released version of SimPE (which is 48), not the QA version, which is 49.

If you have the QA version, you'll see an option, at the very top of SimPE.  It goes across, starting with "File" then "Tools" then "Extra" then "Window" then "Help."  You want the "Window" option.  Click on that, then select "Resource Actions" from the menu that drops down.  A new window will open up on the right hand side, and on that menu, under "Plug Ins" is an option to delete.

Thought I had 49 (I've been signed up for ages) and checked, and I have!  But as i said, I don't have 48, 47 etc., I have been using .35 up to now, and it's still installed, but the two seem to be working separately.  I couldn't really decide what I was supposed to do with 49, as it didn't come with an installer, so I just stuck it in Program files and stuck a shortcut on the desktop.  Other things seem to be working, though - like it doesn't take so long to load stuff, and I get a different icon showing when I run Sim Browser.

I have version 49v. Okay, I think I found it. I actually had the resource actions enabled but it's in one of those little hide away bars that you have to click on. I must say I don't know if I care for SimPE's newer interface.  :P

So basically, you select the character from either the sim browser or sim description on the left hand column and then just hit delete and it deletes every single trace that that character ever existed including memories? And there's been no issues with doing this?

I just wish, as I'd posted in another thread, that when Maxis put in that enable?disable for custom content at the start of your game that they'd done the same for townies!  So much easier to just disable them!

The version I downloaded (only yesterday) is called SimPE Classic.  But it's also called .49.2117.26100. and just has the old File/Tools/Plugins/Help windows at the top left hand of the page.

It should come with 2 executables, one for the "classic" interface and one for the new one. The one I am looking at is the new one and is "SimPE.exe"

I seem to remember with that dl coming two interfaces, classic and new.

Motoki, from what Ancient said, there are some secondary memories you will need to watch for. i.e a sim had first kiss with the deleted character, or a sim had two or more loves etc with the deleted character.

Then for some reason I don't have it all. I'll try downloading again!

Correction - I do have it - just didn't see it!  I definitely need new glasses!

Hey!  I've doneit!  He's gone!!!!!  I shall now execute a happy war dance!

Motoki, as far as I know, yes, that's all you do.  Like I said, I haven't had any problems, but YMMV.  Also, make sure you select the "delete" option under "Plug Ins" - not the first one.

Zephyr, that shouldn't matter (which old version you have).  The problem might be that you're running the "Classic" interface version.  Look in the folder where you unzipped the QA version of SimPE to - there should be another .exe file called SimPe.exe.  Run that one instead of the Classic.exe.

Yes I managed to find it and did all that - the different icon fazed me!  Well, I've got Alvin futa opened, and I want to delete him, but so far haven't figured that bit out,  give me time!!!!

Well, I managed to get rid of the lot (all the Sims2 originals anyway) and so far no sign of them in my game.  But as usual, Mary-Sue has taken over the trashcan kicking role!