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I don't know if this in in the right Forum, but whatever.  Christianluv (not sure if the spelling is right) made a hacked diploma which made it possible for adult sims to get the 6 want slots without actually going to college.  Does anyone know where to find this glorious object? 

I believe the hack you are looking for is the Counterfeit College Diploma.  It should be on MTS2, but I think the site is down for maintenance right now.  Once it's back up, you should have no trouble finding it.

Christianlov retired from MTS2. His hacks can be found here (http://files.sims2graveyard.com/christianlov/), at the Sims2Graveyard.

Why are you all pointing to the non-awesome when Pescado's Lot Debugger will do the same thing?

Plus a whole lot more useful stuff too! ;)

Thanks guys :) 

And I think you can get fake diplomas for them too.  Two Jeffs had one in his Buyable Rewards, I don't know if it's still there over at his new home.

You don't need FAKE diplomas. The Lot Debugger can set and grant a REAL one that is indistinguishable from the Real Deal, for any CAS sim. It will even generate faked memories of a speed-run college experience, so you can create a CAS sim indistinguishable from a played Uni graduate.

Shows just how long ago it is since I upgraded any pre-Uni sims!

I have the lot debugger, but I haven't upgraded my pre-uni, ex-townie sims at all. They have been played with fairly extensively. Would it cause any problems if I was to do it now?

I shouldn't think so - I did it with sims I'd played right from the beginning, and had no problems.  I just haven't done it in this present hood as I'm aiming for a bit of RLism, and it's a run-down innercity area undergoing refurbishment (Docklands?) so it seemed to me that the parents shouldn't have degrees, but the kids should go to college and there should also, eventually, be an influx of graduates to the area as there is more upmarket housing available.  Meanwhile, my townies get moved in when I feel like it.  The latest family to move in still has one teen roaming the streets, and they live in Cyclonesue's container yard!  (But better, no doubt, than a park bench or a cardboard box....)

Hmm. I'm gonna upgrade them then. Thanks Zeph.

You can always back-up first, then if you don't like the results, you can go back to how it was.

Emma, I don't have problems upgrading sims at any time. Most of my playable sims get upgraded purely for the want slots. I don't like being dictated to by wants, so the more there are the more chance there is of randomly fulfilling one or two during the day. My sims start at low job levels too and as I'm not a fanatic about skilling either, that means they don't leap to the top of a career path immediately.

all my CAS sims have diplomas and uni memories, thanks to the lot debugger. my servos do, too. i have not run into a single problem thus far, and the extra want slots have definitely resulted in less aspiration failure.

I just use the college adjuster to give them extra want slots if I feel like it.  But this present game, they don't get any extras, but I do give them three more want locks, and I rarely get below green with any of them - once a want is locked it's much easier to fulfil it, so often if it isn't, you're in the middle of getting them to fulfil a want and the idiots re-roll it to something else!

Yeah, I upgraded Goopy (Grilled Cheese Sim-didn't mind testing on him ;D) and everything seems to work fine. I have a question though, does it work on plantsim babies that have grown to adult?

Dunno, never tried that.  But the College Adjuster should be able to give them the extra want slots.  Since plant-sims can't go to college, the debugger probably can't change that, but I may be wrong - the only time I played Daisy Greenman, I changed both her and Rose back to human, and she grew up normally, except that she had all the talking to plants stuff.

I have and use the lot debugger, but I still prefer CL's counterfeit diploma, because it allows me to choose the sim's GPA, a feature that is not included in the debugger.

No. Upgrading Pre-Uni Sims is designed specifically to function for this, as its original intent was specifically to upgrade a pre-Uni-era sim so that it would have Uni attributes, and this was done specifically BECAUSE those sims had been heavily played and you did not want your favorites becoming second-class citizens.

Bit late now, cos I've already done it :D I just want to know about the Plantbabies that have aged to adult. Can you upgrade them?

You can, yes, but plantbabies aren't really supposed to have that ability.

Okay, so it is a bit cheaty then :D

Well, you can always cure the plantism while they are still toddlers and let them grow up normally and go to college, then turn them back into plantsims if you want.

Plantrocillin cannot be taken by toddlers, no? Since toddlers skip all other age stages, probably because Maxis wanted to intentionally sabotage going to college with plantsims, there's no normal way to do this.

Rose must have given it to Daisy before Daisy grew up, in my game.  Because Daisy grew up to be a child (I think, can't remember for certain) or a teen, and went to college - unless I cheated somehow....I can't remember, and I haven't played that game in quite a while.

When I update Maxis sims (ex: Cassendra Goth), the fake memories do not appear though they have the graduated Uni feature.  Is that bad?

Also, I notice that if I update a sim and it gets fake college memories, when I move any into a new lot, it creates another sum caude memory so they end-up having 2 sum caude memories, how come it is doing that and is that bad?

Zoiks! I didn't know that lot debugger could make university time obsolete! Hot damn. \:d/

Yep, haven't played Uni for yonks.

No, this is normal. Adding the memories to those sims would destroy continuity, so only sims with no adult-age memories, like freshly wiped CAS sims, will receive the memories. Thus you can create a sim in Adult CAS and instantly upgrade to post-Uni.

This is a Maxis bug that has continually eluded detection. We're not entirely sure WHAT causes this, although I have a few ideas of how to prevent duplicates. It is not specifically the cause of the Lot Debugger, and it doesn't appear to be explosionary in and of itself.

I am happy to hear the debugger has nothing to do with that though I did not thought it would otherwise it would have been fixed awhile ago.  Been so long since I had a sim go to Uni the regular way, I did not remember about that if it was at all mention before.

Let's just say I was just worried a bit of moving my sims in new houses but if those mem are harmless, I will continue to do so without fear of BFBVS.

If after the BV rush you think you have time to fix that and need help testing it, I am willing to help, just give me a sign.

I threw together an experimental fix awhiles ago.  You can try it here (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,5544.0.html).  Some people have claimed it worked.  I don't recall now how thoroughly I tested it back then... from briefly skimming the thread, it seems like the generation of duplicate graduation memories wasn't always reproducable in a consistent manner. *shrugs*

Also... the hack is preventative, in that, going forward, if you move your sims around, theoretically you shouldn't get duped memories.  For any sims that already got the dupes, you'd have to fix 'em by using SimPE to delete the dupes.


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I will try it out Syber and let you know.

I will create a few CAS sims and play with some Maxis ones that have the double-memory and see if more or none are created for them and report in your original thread.

BV won't arrive here until Friday so it will keep me busy until I get it lol.

thanks :)

I like playing uni, mainly to take a break from playing multiple-sim households (I play one playable per dorm or uni house at a time).  I gejnerally play them by personality - outgoing romance sims are there for woohoo, and may skip classes if the "need" arises.  Knowledge sims go to class and skill, etc.  However, I use the lot debugger to upgrade CAS townies when they marry in and become playable, and for any "spares" that get relegated to the townie pool (why waste time running them through uni?).

You find romance sims are less interested in doing well - mine seem to roll as many got to class/write term-paper etc. wants as do the Knowledge sims.  If you use ACR and they've just made a booty call and the go to class icon appears in their queue they just ignore the date and go to class!

The least motivated in my game always seem to be popularity, who only want to be friends with every sim they meet......plus all those silly related wants, and if you use nogreekhousespam they just spawn even more useless wants...

Yeah, well, I have nogreekhousespam loaded and my popularity sims all still want to join a greek house, even though the only uni I'm running is Academie La Tour, which has no greek houses.  I suppose I could create one, but I'm still having fun with dorms and greek houses is something I'm saving for later when I get more playable students lined up.

I don't like Greek Houses, although I have used the option to make one small house into a Greek house occasionally, when the inmates whine enough!  I just get so sick of the half-eaten, rotten pizzas and the cheapo furniture!  But I believe there is a hack to stop them going downtown.....

The lot debugger's "Upgrade pre-uni Sim" works very well indeed.

When I have an adult Sim I've been playing since the early pre-uni days, before I upgrade them I have them write a novel.  I figure that the actual amount of work involved in novel writing is about the same as what they'd do in uni, so it feels less like a cheat.  If they don't have all skills maxed, I make them write two novels.

Things get odd if you marry a dormie.  They don't have the option to upgrade, and they never got beyond the first day of school so they don't have the extra want slots and locks.  You can add additional want slots and locks by spawning Vincent's Sim Modder.

Everything's taken care of by one awesome hack and stuff built into the game.

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You could, of course, move the dormie into a house and make them do it the hard way!

I agree, though, about the novel writing - if they were really good, in RL they'd probably get an honorary degree from somewhere!

TwoJeffs' college adjuster lets you do that, and a whole lot more.

Why should dormies get away with it?  Playables have to work hard for there degrees!  (At least, hard-ish...)

If I'm playing owned businesses, I quite often  grab the dormies and use them as worker fodder....

By standard maxian behaviour, moving a YA townie/dormie in with an adult sim will upgrade them to the same college level as the sim who asked them to move in.  But it's borked and doesn't always work, and several hacks interfere with it.

I'd be interested in finding out just how you got the plantbaby cured of plantsimism, ZZ.  I've tried, and there was no way I could get it to happen.  Did you have a hack that allowed it to happen?

I honestly don't remember, but thinking about it, I believe I must have let her grow up, tell Rose to give her the drink, and then used the agesims cheat to grow her back down again.  I didn't see why she should be the only non-adult/elder sim in the neighbourhood not to have the chance to go to college......I did think at first that I'd had her drink the antiplantism stuff as a baby, but on retrospect I think it must have been that I tried it that way too, and then decided to cheat.....

The main reason I did it, though, was because it was just after the release and before any useful hacks had appeared to address this problem that I had - which was that Rose kept appearing at portals of the lots of any sim she'd ever met, or merely seen passing by, and causing the most horrendous lag.  So having cured her of plantsimism she didn't do it any more, and I didn't want Daisy causing the same problems.