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TS2: Burnination => The Podium => Topic started by: leiela on 2007 August 29, 20:30:25



Title: Sub-neighbirhoods
Post by: leiela on 2007 August 29, 20:30:25

I have a long standing neighborhood running, which i want to keep but i accidently attached a sub-neighborhood to it, namely downtown... I play a medieval setting and as you can imagine downtown isn't really in theme.

I was wondering is there anyway of removing the offending sub-neighbourhood?? if not .. if i make a "new custom downtown" and compleatly ignore this one .. is that going to create a ton of new down-townies?? im trying to limit the number of charecters ive got running around the game, ive got the no regen townies hack and id rather like not to create a whole new set.

I've tried bulldozing everything in "downtown" so i can re-build in a more medieval style but even though i have custom dirt roads show up in every one of my other neighbourhoods, downtown isn't grass .. its yukky concreate and my roads don't work on it...

Any suggestions as to get rid / re-vamp or otherwise fix my "evil " subneighorhood most welcome.

 


Title: Re: Sub-neighbirhoods
Post by: Sleepycat on 2007 August 29, 20:48:11
you can change the terrain (I hate the concrete)

for grass, in the cheat window type

TerrainType temperate

or for dirt

TerrainType dirt




Title: Re: Sub-neighbirhoods
Post by: Ness on 2007 August 29, 20:53:21
I've used said cheat before.  It created some oddities and inconsistencies at the lot level.  It changes the view at the neighbourhood level but can do nothing to the lots that have been placed.

However, if you're just intending it be there and look like it belongs rather than populate and use the area, you'll most likely be fine.


Title: Re: Sub-neighborhoods
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 August 29, 21:55:28
With the lots after a terrain change, you have to put them in the bin and then place them again. This fixes the terrain, and is very annoying. Very very annoying as when I move a family out and then put the lot in a bin, I lose all objects in the house.


Title: Re: Sub-neighborhoods
Post by: Eleonora on 2007 August 29, 23:39:54
With the lots after a terrain change, you have to put them in the bin and then place them again. This fixes the terrain, and is very annoying. Very very annoying as when I move a family out and then put the lot in a bin, I lose all objects in the house.

No need to place them in the bin, you can just pick 'em up and place on a different spot, that'll fix the terrain too.


Title: Re: Sub-neighbirhoods
Post by: Gwill on 2007 August 30, 20:05:30
If you add a new downtown you'll be able to delete the old one.


Title: Re: Sub-neighbirhoods
Post by: notveryawesome on 2007 August 31, 00:04:10
You can also use the terrainType cheat from within a lot, but the change might not be visible until you exit and re-enter the lot.


Title: Re: Sub-neighbirhoods
Post by: cwykes on 2007 August 31, 12:48:37
If lots have sims in, absolutely DON'T put them in the lotbin.  Putting occupied lots in the lotbin is "a very bad thing" and makes a nasty mess in your game files. You can pick them up and place them again no problem.

You can delete a suburb using the tiny trashcan icon that comes up on one of the screens when you click to go to the sub-hood.  It's either on the chooser screen, or the screen with the blurb about the sub-hood you pick.  Putting the sub-hood in the trash can gets rid of the burb and the lots, but leaves all the sims in your game: playables will be dumped in the simbin and the others filed away among the townies etc.  You can reclothe them all to suit as you get the chance or follow Pescado's tutorial on deleting them.

I've never heard anyone say it isn't safe to delete a suburb and I've done it several times - though never on my favourite hood.  You might want to see if anyone awesome posts to disagree with me!  Make a back up before you do it anyway!


Title: Re: Sub-neighbirhoods
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 August 31, 12:59:29
There are no known extreme consequences for deleting a suburb. It may make a mild hash out of your lot tables, but is unlikely you will run out of lot instances in the expected lifespan of the game.


Title: Re: Sub-neighbirhoods
Post by: Ellatrue on 2007 August 31, 14:38:22
That's assuming we are willing to make the jump to the Sims 3 at all. I expect it will be significantly more suck, and not enough shiny to compensate.


Title: Re: Sub-neighbirhoods
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2007 September 01, 03:19:29
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That's assuming we are willing to make the jump to the Sims 3 at all. I expect it will be significantly more suck, and not enough shiny to compensate.

And how much will the computer upgrade cost on top of the game itself?

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.. is that going to create a ton of new down-townies??

I don't think it will create a second lot of townies if you create a new Downtown.  And I would say it's worth having a Downtown mainly for the Comm Lots, of which there are quite a few medieval ones around, I think.



Title: Re: Sub-neighbirhoods
Post by: notveryawesome on 2007 September 01, 05:19:16
Hmmm, I thought you couldn't delete a subhood without first creating a new one to take its place. Has this changed, or am I imagining that it ever existed in the first place?


Title: Re: Sub-neighbirhoods
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 September 01, 05:22:34
There must be at least one...if there has been one. Yeah.


Title: Re: Sub-neighbirhoods
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2007 September 01, 05:43:35
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Hmmm, I thought you couldn't delete a subhood without first creating a new one to take its place. Has this changed, or am I imagining that it ever existed in the first place?

Well, that's why you don't get a second lot of townies.  The only time you get extra sims is with Uni if you add a second campus, you get the playables from that too.  You add the new subhood, and then delete the old one, thus only one set of townies etc.   Presumably that's why you can't delete the first before you add the second.


Title: Re: Sub-neighbirhoods
Post by: leiela on 2007 September 02, 17:53:27

Thank's a ton all deleted... and so far it doens't appear to have done any damage :) 


Title: Re: Sub-neighbirhoods
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2007 September 02, 18:01:50
I'd be inclined to run a quick check in SimPE, just to be on the safe side.  Or, even quicker, just to check for any extra characters, you could just let the Clean Installer list your character files - if there are any that should be "Person" and are shown as "Object", when they shouldn't be a dead unlinked sim, then you might have a little work to do. ;)