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Anti Garden Lag for TS2Seasons
Made by: Flying Fish Systems (J. M. Pescado)

Congratulations to: Draklixa!

Special Thanks To:
Hobbsee the Scrawny Pencil Neck
Fat, Hairy-Bellied Ness
Rohina the Ugly Butted
Fat Gwilly People

INSTRUCTIONS:
Place in your MYDOCU~1\EAGAME~1\THESIM~1\DOWNLO~1 directory.

FEATURES:
The visual effects of bugs and ladybug houses are not displayed, because they
cause horrible lag. This prevents the horrible lag produced by those items.

COMPATIBILITY:
This hack is fully compatible with all FFS hacks. For TS2Seasons.

SIDE EFFECTS:
May cause computer damage, incontinence, explosion of user's head, coma, death,
and/or halitosis.

WARNING:
Do not open, crush, dispose of in fire, put in backwards, short-circuit, or mix
with non-awesome hacks - may explode, leak, or catch fire, resulting in injury
and/or death.

Do you still get the bugs but you just can't see them?

Emma you got it exactly right.  Not displayed visually but still there. 
Will this be for all bugs including plate/garbage flies or just garden bugs/ladybugs?

Just garden bugs, the old plate/garbage flies don't cause any lag.

So it makes the bug infestion of plants and trees invisible?

How will I know when to spray since Macrotastics doesn't make Sims spray infested plants?

I guess by hovering over the plant, and seeing its health?  Of course, if you keep the plants in a greenhouse, you never have to worry about the bugs...

You can't really spray anyway. Either your employees will do this for you, if able, or the gardener will. YOUR sims probably cannot spray anyway, or if they could, Macrotastics will make them. You can only counteract bug infestation with increased drowning at harvest. If you turn your sim into a plant, then he will gain the ability to spray safely. Otherwise, adults and elders which are not robots cannot spray, and whether or not you can see the problem does not change anything.

Besides, if it no longer causes lag, you can just wallpaper the place in ladybug houses, permanently ending the bug problem anyway. After all, the obstacle to placing ladybug houses was previously THE LAG, OH THE LAG...but that's gone now.

You can manually click on them and see if "spray" or "spray many" show up. they won't show on an uninfested plant.

So we can safely ignore the bugs? The plants won't die before harvest time arrives?


But it's safe for kids to spray, right? I've been having the adults do the gardening and the kids do the spraying.

Wouldn't a greenhouse be both more economical and visually appealing?

But I'm playing a challenge at the moment and greenhouses are just not in the budget yet.

They could, but not with other measures taken to improve their health.

It is safe for kids to spray. Kids will also macrotastically spray as a result, only full adults and elders are not permitted to spray.

You seem to have confused me with someone else. I never said that. Seriously. Visually appealing? WTF?

FYI....

Have no problem with ladybug lag or any other effects running Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit version with AMD Athlon 64 Dual Core with a Nvidia 8500 Video card and 2 GB of system memory.

Later,

Pcgeekri

 :) Monique has a hack at either InSim or MTS2 that pops up a notification box when plants/trees need watering/spraying/trimming or harvesting and Jfade has a hack so that adult sims can safely spray their trees and plants as much as they want  :)

My teens can macro/garden spray. On the other hand though, the gardener doesn't spray the bug infested trees/plants.

There's no teen or child plantsim, so they're safe from turning. Gardeners are adults, so they're not safe.

The Gardener, as hired from Maxis, will, but he does it so slowly that he may not ever get around to doing it if the problem is really bad and there are many other things to do.

Child/teen/YAs cannot become plantsims. The Gardener is an adult or elder, so isn't safe, but he's an NPC, so who cares?

I've had the gardener visit, say 'Your plants are perfect!' (or whatever) and bogged off when everything has been teeming with bugs. I have the daily gardener so there isn't 3 days worth of work on lot.

I wish that this hack included an option for adult sims to spray, then choose if they wanted to be vulnerable to plantsimism, or not. There are times I want sims to be plantsims and I prefer to do it the long way rather than just use the debugger.

This hack has nothing to do with spraying or not spraying. Adults always have the OPTION to spray, it's just that Macrotastics will not direct them to do so because it is not a "safe" operation. Macrotastics only performs "safe" operations and will not do anything that runs the risk of altering your sim's state.

Yeah, I just wish macrotastics included spraying for adults.

That is not considered a "safe" operation so it is disabled for adults and elders. Macrotastics will not intentionally perform unsafe operations that carry high probability of state damage. If Jfade adds a modprobe hook so that anti-plantsimism code can be detected, we can support this check, but otherwise there is no way to determine.

I don't know what I did wrong.

I removed djssensibleladybugs from my hack folder. And put this one in. I still got lightning bugs and bug infestation bugs. I couldn't afford a ladybug house, so I don't know about it. I didn't see butterflies, although maybe they just come out in certain seasons? It was fall during my test. Are we still supposed to get lightning bugs and butterflies? I don't see how to catch them if we don't.

I placed the mod in my ZNEW folder, where I always place new hacks before deciding to keep them or not. Is there anything that would affect this because of load order? I don't have any other mods affecting bugs, and no conflicts show with HCDU.

I would have done further tests, but decided that I must have forgot to put the mod in. So I got out of the game and was surprised to find out that I actually did have it installed properly.

I'm having the same problem. I can't see ladybugs, but I still see the pests.

Edit: I think this hack borked my water many option, too, because it started working again when I took this hack out. I took out another non-awesome one that gave sims fun and body when they gardened, but it doesn't seem like that should have had any effect on water many. I could be wrong! Anyway, I have no other gardening hacks.

Yeah, I ran the game again today and added ladybug houses. No ladybugs, but I get pests. I actually like it this way. I like sending 'safe' Sims to spray when I see them.

So since I like it this way, it will probably start working as intended the next time I load it. :P

It's possible preexisting ones don't go away if they're already out, and it only stops new ones from appearing.

These were new 'pests' because I planted the first garden on that lot after the mod was installed.

Like I said, I like it this way, but don't understand why it would be different in different games.

I just played a house with a garden for the first time last night after installing this, and I noticed that, while the sim was able to garden (water) all the existing plants, there were no plants actually there.  And I was pretty sure they were growing before.  Hovering over the plot showed what type of plant and its health, but the appearance was of just a hole in the ground.

I chalked it up to maybe just a graphical glitch, but now you have me wondering...

 


I installed today and my gardens were reset as well. But about 24 sim hours later they started growing again. So just give it some time.

I'm still getting visible bugs from trees and plants. These are new gardens planted after the hack was installed.

I also have incredible lag when I use multiple sprinklers. The screen would stutter a lot.

Uh, this thread is about bugs not sprinklers.  ::)

   I also was going to ask about adding an anti-lag for garden sprinklers in this hack.  i figured the Anti Garden Lag would cover any lag dealing with gardens.

I believe someone on MTS2 has already done an anti-sprinkler lag.

   Gotcha,  it's a hack by Numenor    http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=222748

   The reason i asked was you had mentioned the lag from the Garden Sprinklers earlier, so i was kinda hoping you already had something in your secret stash.   ;)

Umm, hello?


Still getting the visible bugs. How come this fix works for everyone but me?

I have the visible bugs, too. I don't mind them, because I haven't experienced any bug-related lags, but still, I think I shouldn't see them, having the fix installed and all...

No my game doesn't lag either, but still.....I don't want to see the bugs, especially when we aren't allowed to macro>spray :P

At least I'm not the only one this fix doesn't work for. It's annoying though.

The same thing happens in my game. After thinking about it, maybe it's just supposed to be a preemptive measure. If you add the lady bug houses beforehand the pests shouldn't show up, right?

No - the ladybugs eat the pests, they don't prevent them from coming.

Ladybugs do a sort of both, after a fashion, much like how a Ring of Regeneration can prevent damage. The bug logic still runs, but they are consumed by the ladybug effect almost immediately and thus the player never has to deal with it. Note that multiple lady bug houses are unnecessary: Ladybug houses provide protection to everything within their radius, regardless of how many items there are or how many ladybug houses there are. The effect does not stack.

So the obvious question is, what's the radius of the ladybug house?  4 squares?  8?  The whole lot?

Yes; TwoJeffs has a 'always perfect gardens' version of his 'always perfect plants' over on the Inteen site.

That hack always seems a little too cheaty for me... :D I like the perfect plants one though.

Oh, yea, I've had that one forever. I got tired of sims and/or gardeners constantly bitching about not being able to reach some plants.

Those little triangle flowerbeds don't get watered if they are placed next to a diagonal foundation or wall-they always die. That's why I got the PP hack :D I'm not one for loads of shrubs and flowers in my sim gardens anyway, but I like to have a few at the front of my houses.

another way to be sure and have no bugs is to build a green house. You can even have trees in the greenhouse also, I always put my garden and trees in one, and have never had a bug once I did that.

My garden plots look like this..

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W                     W
W  PPP TT PPP  W
W  PPP TT PPP  W
W  PPP TT PPP  W
W                     W
W  PPP TT PPP  W
W  PPP TT PPP  W
W  PPP TT PPP  W
W                     W
W  PPP TT PPP  W
W  PPP TT PPP  W
W  PPP TT PPP  W
W                     W
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W = Greenhouse walls
D = Greenhouse door
P = Plants
T = Trees

And no bugs... Just good food...

Another stupidity is that Sims can't trim shrub even over the lowest mortar fence. If they could walk over it, they should damn well be able to reach their hands over it, but no. Until Seasons came out, I used Windkeeper's Plastic Shrubs and Flowers in such occasions, but now they stand out like a sore thumb in snowy winter garden. A seasonal-working hacked shrub set which does not require trimming would be awesome.

I got so tired of that that TJs' perfect plants went into my game and never came out. :)

 same problems as everyone else:  ladybugs are gone
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Me too I can see pests on the plants. I have about 10 plots and the lag is not so strong, anyway I guessed this mod should remove the pests visual effects at all?


Also I desperately look for a mod that descrease the chance for plants of being infected. I have seen it I guess on MTS2 bt now I cannot find it.
May be tip about how to do it by myself? I'd like to see that ladybugs work is really helpful, my sim had to dispose all plants as they was all almost died though ladybug house was near by...


thank you