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I'm rather impressed with these maternity-enabled Maxis mesh replacements

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=237740

but I had always had the idea that Squinge's hack to enable pregnant Sims to wear any outfit was particularly conflict-prone, so I've never used it. I have just finished reading all 45 pages of comments on that mod over at inSim (30 pages on the original version and 15 on the Seasons version), and all I have learned is a) as should be obvious, it doesn't play nicely with other global dresser hacks and it doesn't have any effect on dressers that have their own hacked pie menus, and b) there are a lot of REALLY STUPID people in the world who cannot figure out what version of the mod to use. Also, the Seasons version sounds buggier than the previous ones.

I can think of a number of questions that I'd like to have more game-knowledgeable answers to than it was possible to get over there even before all the threads in Squinge's section were locked, but what I really want to know isn't necessarily about that mod in the first place -- I'm wondering what the most awesome, least conflict-causing way to take advantage of all those new maternity-enabled clothes is. (I've not heard of any other global mod, but are there non-global objects that will also allow it? And would a global dresser-modifying mod (Squinge's or otherwise) conflict with global mods that affect what Sims wear when on their own, like nounneededcoats or Crammy's work clothes fixes?)

One conflict I know of - it doesn't work with the Inteenimater. Go to my section on Jase's forum if you want a compatible forum.
I don't use the hack myself, but I suppose as long as you know what it is and how to use it, it will work. Your Sim will still get maternity clothing assigned, but you can dress them back in any kind of casualwear with the Squinge hack in. This does lead to the loss of a belly mesh usually -- that's where this new hack comes into play.

And yes, a large number of Sims users tends to be extremely stupid. It's an unfortunate miracle that they manage to power up their PC and connect to the internet every day :(


As for conflicts -- if this belly mesh mod works by modifying the property sets, it risks conflicting with any other mod that does the same. Luckily the HCDU should be able to catch it though.

As I understand it, the set I linked to are default replacement meshes, adding real pregnant morphs to all the Maxis meshes that did not already have them. Don't know whether that also involves modifying property sets, as I've never tried it. I don't believe I have any other mods that affect clothing on a broad scale like that -- none of your hiders, don't have Motoki's clothing equality mod (though I've thought about it), don't know whether either of those things would be likely causes of conflict anyway.

It didn't even occur to me to wonder if the default set itself would conflict with anything besides other default replacement meshes; I was only thinking of finding a mod that would let me USE them which hasn't been frequently identified as a cause of problems.

The files I've looked at from that thread are just mesh replacements.  It doesn't appear to do anything to property sets or textures.

The only issue I have with Squinge's hack (I use the Pregnancy & Servo version) is that the pregnant sim will still appear in maternity clothing both in the family preview as well as when she's a visitor. And, of course, the problem with pregnancy state not showing in most Maxis clothes or customs based on the Maxis meshes. Not a big issue...I like for them to wear somethng different, just not all the same stupid outfit.

And Servos, well...they revert completely when visiting on another lot. This is very annoying. I will have many Servos in Urban Paradise, but I only plan on having one Servo in Monopoly, and she's kind of a fembot. Bright pink huge hair, PVC miniskirt and tube top. Having her show up as a boring Servo is icky.

I've downloaded the new default replacement meshes but haven't installed them yet though I have been using Squinge's hack for a long time and haven't experienced any problems with it. I have a selection of clothes that use a mesh with a pregnancy morph and ensure that my pregnant sims own/wear something from that range. I have recently been using the hacked clothes rack from Numenor/MTS2  as well and still haven't experienced any problems. However, I haven't run the hack conflict detector for a little while so I could be breaking something.

Yeah, I saw that issue, and I've been trying to find a solution to the Servo problem since OFB came out and there probably just isn't one. I've installed a mod that makes the option to make a particular Sim selectable appear on the Sim's pie menu, so I don't have to install Merola's mirror everywhere, and if a Servo pops up as a visitor I can fix them again. (Although I haven't noticed a Seasons version of the Preg&Servo hack, but maybe I am blind? But Servos can also use the clothing tool and a few other things.)

Dunno if you followed the link I posted, Zaz, but it adds pregnant states to (almost) all Maxis meshes. I never wanted to bother with finding additional maternity clothes before, but with that, the idea of having more options is suddenly a lot more appealing.

I saw it, just haven't been able to use it as I didn't get home until after midnight last night. Went to HP5 right by work and going home and coming back in between seemed silly.

I'm using the Seasons version...updated before changing Lynne Pennybags, the fembot, as I only had the Prego version before.

I've been using it for a few days.  I have Inteen, I have the Season Pregnancy Wear Anything, but I don't think I run No Unneeded Coats.  The coat thing never bothered me so no point to have a hack in-game for it.  The default meshes are great IMO, very natural.  I haven't had any conflicts and my game is hacked to hell.  However, I do not use any global clothing mods, because I have Inteen and Pregnancy Wear Anything, and I think they conflict with those.  I use Insim wardrobe tool to force changes when necessary.

I've always been reluctant to run squinge's hack for wearing anything while pregnant... I've actually never used any InSim hacks.

Wonder if this would be a 'safe' alternative... as I am seriously bored with the Maxis pregnancy clothes and since my little romance sims seem to find themselves so very pregnant so very often...

I prefer maternity replacements.  I change replacement sets from time to time; I've made a bunch over the years.
This is my current one: http://www.modthesims2.com/member/showthread.php?t=238590

Ooh!  I like that idea so much better... I'm with you - too much work, cuz I have too many pregnant sims!

I'm going to give this mod a try. I run a game with practically no CC, so anything that will give me a wider variety of maternity clothing is welcome. I have been using squinge's hack for ages, no problems ever.
Like Zazazu my sims will still be wearing maxis maternity clothes when in the family preview screen, but when visiting they're wearing the right outfit, not sure why this is different in my game.

It's possible I'm the weird one. Honestly, I almost never play more than one household in a 'hood, so I'm not sure I'd seen any other pregnant sims visiting -since Squinge's hack- before Nekonoai started showing up in her blond wig and default maternity wear. Peggy Pennybags never turned up as a visitor during either of her pregnancies. And I probably won't get a chance to witness it for awhile...the only sims getting action at the moment are elders or in same-sex relationships.

Ohh, that sounds like the ideal solution! Do you know where one might find more? (Either yours or by others)

Strangely, considering how many skin and eye replacement sets there are, not many people seem to bother with maternity replacements, which is why I tend to make my own.  I know there was one medieval maternity replacement sets, using maxis textures.  I haven't uploaded any other of my replacement sets, since I mainly make them for my own game, and can't be bothered to go around gathering permission from the original creators.  I have one set based on this mesh and various recolours (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=210011), and I used to have a set I made from the mesh from Sim Chic on this page (http://www.all-about-style.com/themes_maternity.html), but I can't seem to find that right at the moment; I might have deleted them.

Find me any maternity mesh, with 9 recolours and I can throw together a replacement set in a few minutes +testing.

That's because I don't think there's really a way to make looking bloated and huge look good.

You may become motivated when your own spawns are growing.

And so that's why the current fashion trend is to let it all hang out?

I fail to see the logic of that. Mostly, I think you'd just realistically have to accept that you're going to look hideous and bloated for a while, at least until you take your crotchdropping.

What's the difference between a 8 1/2 month pregnant woman and a Playboy centerfold?

NOTHING, if the husband knows what's good for him.

:D

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Ooohhh... I think I will, soon as I get the time to look for some. And of course I can do some of the testing...

(Or if it's not too transcendental maybe I could do it myself given instructions, but if you say it would only take you a few minutes then I might just take advantage of that instead...)

Randomly, while the_mystical_one apparently does intend to do some male maternity meshes also, what I'd love to see is a default package for male maternity that I could use to just make some recolors of the original mesh. (The general idea of pregnant men in old sweats and t-shirts is fine, and the alien shirt is all good by me, but some of the others are fugly.)

So...I continued to forget to install this mod, and Nekonoai is no longer pregnant. Does it fix the separates issue? A pregant woman, using the Squinge hack, in a separate top and bottom appears pregnant on the top, but then normal on the bottom. Holy cutoff belly!

Ugh, now I have to go to bed before midnight on a Saturday like a two year old since I wasn't allowed to sleep more than 4 hours, with plenty of interruptions last night. Couldn't go out drinking tonight because I knew I'd fall asleep at the bar.

I've done it many times, so I can do it in a few minutes.  I can't promise that everyone can learn to do it as quickly.
I really suck at writing tutorials and I'm certainly not in the mood to do it now, but if you're interested in learning to do replacements, I did write a quick (drnken) tutorial on mesh replacements here (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,7997.msg221286.html#msg221286).  You can use the package I posted at MTS2 as a template.
If you want to make a stand-alone maternity replacement, you extract and replace the pregnancy textures themselves.  If you want to use the outfits you're replacing with as normal clothes as well, you can make a smaller add-on package by just replacing the texture materials.

It occurs to me that the fundamental expectation for dishonesty bodes poorly for the future of this relationship. If you actually EXPECT your opponent to proceed dishonestly, and would take offense if he doesn't, something is clearly unhealthy in this relationship.

The separate issue is fixed but, as with the outfits, some clothes work much better stretched than others.

All during my first pregnancy my husband called me his sea cow. truthful and affectionate!

Hate to drag this back on topic, sort of, but I'm having a bit of a problem with the linked downloads. I went ahead and got the ones I have expansions for, and so on. But the game completely locked up on me twice, no crash, no errors (I run with debug mode on), just frozen - both when a female sim tried to spin into her career outfit. (Science career, research assistant, I believe...) The first time, she was pregnant, but hadn't bumped yet, and the carpool had just arrived. The second time she was not pregnant, as I hadn't saved recently enough, and I sent her to the dresser to change right after getting the job, though she had the same problem. Game froze, like it was busy, only nothing happened.

I have taken them out now, because I don't have the patience to figure out which are career meshes and which aren't. It may be a hack conflict, as I didn't see much when I looked through the MTS2 thread, but still...

If it helps any, I was using the thing with the Seasons version of Squinge's hack - which was put in specifically for this set of meshes, an 'adult clothes for elders' hack, and a 'Maxis clothes as outerwear' hack, as well as a 'buyable work/NPC clothes' hack, which I took out before the second time, and still had the same problem.

I saw mention of issues with exactly that mesh when I looked through the most recent comments on the thread a couple of days ago.

Can't say this worked for me either. Downloaded all meshes, went in game to test it on a few of my pregnant sims; nothing. Thanks to Squinge's hack  I was able to pick everyday wear for my sims, but none of them showed a belly. Neither was the maxis maternity wear altered like the creator claimed to have done.

I must admit though that I've been having a lot of non-working hacks lately, things that used to work perfectly before. For instance, the bring a friend dialog from TJ, used to work, now my game just handles it in the old maxis way. Probably some major hack conflict between multiple hacks, but I can't be arsed to go and find out which ones.

Huh. I just went over and took another look - I hadn't checked since my game crashed, and that was a few days ago now - the download has been updated with a 'fixed' version. Awesome. (Hopefully!)

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Finally! MTS2 didn't want to let me download them. But I have them now. Woo!