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Title: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: MaximilianPS on 2007 May 23, 12:26:13
is it possible ?
there is an hack / objects that will made possible to have "intelligent" npc that they can run a shop to sell flowers or cakes ?


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 May 23, 13:10:26
In Soviet Russia, business runs YOU! And didn't you quit?


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: MaximilianPS on 2007 May 23, 13:41:24
God sent you to made my hood perfect ?  ;D

btw, i suppose that hack will control just the npc that works for my family..



Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 May 23, 14:33:10
God sent you to made my hood perfect ?  ;D

btw, i suppose that hack will control just the npc that works for my family..
Business Runs You is Godlike. You need it if you expect to run any business.


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: MaximilianPS on 2007 May 23, 15:06:18
(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8103/screenshotdo4.png)
what i forget ?
... why there isn't any cakes ?


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: floopyboo on 2007 May 23, 15:28:48
Did you make any?


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: MaximilianPS on 2007 May 23, 15:37:18
lol no.. i didn't made any but the most important, i forget to palce the Business run object  ;D ;D



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ok i'll try to explane

i've made a community lot.
i've placed the "cakes expositor"
and all that you can see on the screenshot

but no cakes appear and my "controlled" sims can't buy them (also 'cause there arent lol)


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: kuronue on 2007 May 23, 16:04:42
You have to play the lot (as in, visit with the owner) and stock some cakes you've made in the shelves. Then when you visit with another family they should always be there. If you don't want to own it, buy it, stock the shelves, then sell it back.


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: MaximilianPS on 2007 May 23, 17:45:25
intresting, now i see the cakes but i can't purchase it :\


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 May 23, 18:26:24
You have to play the lot (as in, visit with the owner) and stock some cakes you've made in the shelves. Then when you visit with another family they should always be there. If you don't want to own it, buy it, stock the shelves, then sell it back.
If you sell it back, you can't buy the cooked items...unless BusinessRunsYou changes that. OFB and I aren't friends, as my simmies live long enough without wasting non-time on community lots.


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: witch on 2007 May 23, 21:31:22
When the family owns the lot, stock the shelves and use the button in the top right hand corner of the screen to set the cakes 'for sale'. Turn them all yellow. Then sell the lot back and try visiting with your family to the community lot. I don't know if this is your problem but it is worth trying,


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: MaximilianPS on 2007 May 23, 21:47:33
i've tested it...
well, the shelves are full of cakes but i can't purchase it 'causei can't click on it :(
that's sad 'cause that should start a new class of shops  :-\


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: witch on 2007 May 23, 22:26:50
well, the shelves are full of cakes but i can't purchase it 'causei can't click on it :(

What do you mean, you can't click on it?
Do your sims own the shop?
Are you there to run the business?
What sim are you using to click with, the owner?



Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: Tamha on 2007 May 24, 04:18:00
I think he's trying to create a shop that sells food or craftables that isn't owned by a playable sim. From the stream of questions being asked, I'm going to guess this isn't possible?


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: MaximilianPS on 2007 May 24, 10:52:45
I think he's trying to create a shop that sells food or craftables that isn't owned by a playable sim. From the stream of questions being asked, I'm going to guess this isn't possible?

indeed...

as suggested on previous post, I've
1) purchased a community lot
2) crafted some cakes
3) placed the cakes on the shelves
4) turned the cakes yellow with "sell this" tool
5) sell the lot

now, when I'm visit the lot the cakes are exactly where I've placed 'em but i can't click on it... i can't purchase it
I've tried to purchase the cakes with a random sim and with the owner, btw i cant purchase the stuff..

I've tried to made a floral shop to..
same steps same result, the flowers are on the shelves but i can't purchase nothing :(


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: Sagana on 2007 May 24, 11:06:44
Is it working properly when you leave the shop owned by the playable?

If it is, don't sell the shop - either get a manager and BRY and just check in with it every once in awhile or just don't ever play that sim again, pretend he's an NPC there just to own shops.

If it isn't, something else is wrong. I had a bakery and did get it working but it's been awhile and I don't remember that much about it. I do remember having problems selling single servings, rather than full pies.


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: Hook on 2007 May 24, 14:26:37
I tried a shop like this once selling fish and garden veggies.  You just can't do it, because the inventory that's sold has to come from somewhere.  It's not just something you buy out of the catalog.  If you sell the business back to the community, none of the stuff can be bought there.

You can have your Sim purchase the shop and set it up, then never go in, but eventually he'll run out of inventory and have to restock.  Whether it's growing apples and eggplants, or baking cakes or crafting snapdragons, someone's gonna have to make more.

Hook


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: Sleepycat on 2007 May 24, 16:18:26

You can have your Sim purchase the shop and set it up, then never go in, but eventually he'll run out of inventory and have to restock.  Whether it's growing apples and eggplants, or baking cakes or crafting snapdragons, someone's gonna have to make more.

Hook



I've set up a playable owned shop a couple times and it sells the craftable toys and flowers and once I take the owner there and get it all set up, I never let her return and it never needs restocking. If I take another playable there the stuff will get the restock sign but leaving resets them so when the next playable goes there everything is fully stocked again.



Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: notovny on 2007 May 24, 16:52:23
Agreed. What happens is that the restockable merchandise comes out of the owner's inventory...until the owner runs out. However, Community Lots restore to their last saved state whenever you visit them. On an owned community lot, this means the last time you played the owner and had him leave the lot..

So even if the owner runs out of items due to restocking while you're visiting the lot as a Neighbor, you can leave the lot and come right back, and find all the shelves stocked again.

Until I started building factories, I'd use the above trick quite often with crafted item stores.


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: Hook on 2007 May 24, 18:19:59
I'm almost certain my owner was running out of snapdragons at one time.  When she left the lot, there were no out-of-inventory signs at all.  Some playable Sims went to buy snapdragons, I seem to remember her inventory going down.  I definitely remember her going to the shop and having a bunch of out-of-inventory signs.

Before the Seasons patch, some items were unsellable in stores if they weren't owned by a Sim, including veggies.  If a Sim owned the lot, veggies could be sold, but I believe the ladybug loft and compost bin could not.  Also, before the patch you couldn't put a compost bin in your inventory.  I haven't done much testing of this since the patch.

Hook


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: MaximilianPS on 2007 May 25, 13:49:28
ok, so the only way to made it is to  get a manager, i think that i will wait for an hack/patch/crack/fix  ::)


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 May 25, 13:57:29
Businesses only need a manager if you want to collect remote income. Business need BRY if you want them to function with employees so that you can visit them as another family and buy things, though.


Title: Re: NPC that control OFB Shop ?
Post by: trudy on 2007 May 25, 15:40:05
OFB and I aren't friends, as my simmies live long enough without wasting non-time on community lots.

Try the comunity time project. It is not ready but I works like a charm for me. No Problems whatsoever. I used to hate runing owned bussineses because of the time isue too.