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Title: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 22, 04:42:25
Sorry MATY,but  because of attached file size limit :( I post it as Alexx58 on Insimenator and MTS2 with title"Fights for points".
http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=47141



Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Flamingo on 2007 May 22, 19:00:28
I'm not certain, but I think that promoting your stuff is techincally Retardo Land material.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 22, 19:21:02
What the difference if I can't post it on MATY?But maybe as info post it is for Podium section.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: jolrei on 2007 May 22, 19:29:25
Or perhaps Peasantry.  No little description of what this is?


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: ElfPuddle on 2007 May 22, 19:32:42
Quote
Wants & Fears Retuning for Seasons
Made by: Alexx58
I made some retuning of Seasons WantTrees and finally put fight wants and fears
triggers in proper places.Some misc retunings for bladder failure and energy failure fears
No more senseless fights or fights for fun only!Now Fights can collect points!
Futures:
Win Fight Want can appear for almost any aspiration from teens to elders.
More often for Popularity,Wealth & Pleasure Asp,and for Mean,Neat,Outgoing & Active characters.
Win Fight with subject Want can appear when relations with subject in range from -75 to -100.
Lose Fight Fear can appear for almost any aspiration from teens to elders.
Win Fight & Win Fight with subject wans can appears more often on community lots.
Win Fight with subject even with good relations can appear while party.
Chance for bladder and energy failure fears increased for any aspiration.
Some retuning for EP1(University):
Toga & Regular Party wants lightly decreased.
Hangout want lightly decreased while party.
Play handheld with subject want increased.
Win & lose game against subject wants decreased.
For EP4(Pets):
Get pets or kitten/puppy wants lightly decreased.
Commands come here,stay,sit up,play dead - decreased.
No changes for other EPs
Install:
Unrar
Make backup of original WantTree.package in \The Sims 2\The Sims 2 Seasons\TSData\Res\Wants\directory
and put this package instead.For uninstall remove this package and put original package from backup.
{Sorry for my bad english)
Enjoy!

Alexx, you owe me one for posting what you should have. ;)


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 May 23, 03:39:49
Alexx, have you seen JM's "wants & fears sanity"? It's a similar concept.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 23, 04:02:46
Any concept from J.M. about Fight Wants&Fears.Or maybe you see these wants&fears in your game with J.M.mod installed? ;D
I asked him about it several times and finally made it themselves.And else - retuning + retriggering and hack is very different things.
TreeWans package contain 303 trees with full game wants & fears tuning system and check all links not easy at all.
I almost sure that when you try this you will say"How can I play without it? :)
Also I will plan globally rebuild Party Wants section.Kick off annoying hang out and pillow fight and replace for something more resonable.Is many other missing wants that must be invoked in game.But ...if i will find time for this.
P.S.And please, no more comments about compares with other hacks or mods.I don't steal anything from anyone. >:(


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 May 23, 11:13:31
While interesting, this is really an Insim item. As a technical thing, we cannot recommend tampering with the core install as a good idea.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 23, 13:54:38
After almost week of playing with this "item" installed all I can notice-no side effects ,no game crashes,no other wants or fears disappeared.Waiting tactic is a wisdom tactic but(sorry for joke) :) it's time when Fights Runs You.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 May 23, 15:01:52
I wouldn't expect it to CRASH, but modifying core game files breaks patches and you can't install anything else that affects that file. As for the rest of your post:
(http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/crapola/pancake_bunny.jpg)


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 23, 15:14:36
Thank you very much for nice picture!I put in on my desktop as warning about before installing any patches or EP I .of course must remove any hacks or modified packages.This thread may be closed! :)


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: ElfPuddle on 2007 May 23, 15:30:53
Did you mean thread?

If not, what's a trat?


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 23, 15:34:19
Yes Thanks it was error :)


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: syberspunk on 2007 May 23, 15:38:53
I wouldn't expect it to CRASH, but modifying core game files breaks patches and you can't install anything else that affects that file.

While the latter part is true... I think something might have changed about the former part, possibly since Pets, maybe even as early as OFB?

When I installed Pets, I totally forgot to revert back to my original Wants folder (since I am using my teenwoohoowants hack And, at the time, I was using Squiinge's Uni Career LTWs hack - so all 3 "core" files are modded in my game).  Pets installed AND patched fine, with no complaints. *shrugs*

Just to test this again, I purposefully didn't bother to revert back to the original files when I installed Seasons.  Again, no complains from that or the patch[es].  Same thing goes for Celebrations! Stuff.

So... just like with the LTWs... it appears that something might've changed.  It makes me wonder if you can mod the WantTrees by sticking the .package file in the Downloads folder too?  I haven't tried it myself yet. :-\

Ste


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 23, 16:29:00
No I don't know too if it possible to make something that goes to downloads.I've made it simply for playing right now and not
with next patch or EP or in next year.You always have choice-install or not install or other choice remove or not remove.
Maybe I'll try to do somehing more compact and universal,but not now.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 May 23, 17:48:01
P.S.And please, no more comments about compares with other hacks or mods.I don't steal anything from anyone. >:(
I wasn't implying that. I just wondered if you had looked at JM's since it is similar, and you might get a bigger response promoting it on a site not of JM's, since a lot of us have his version. A lot of hackers/modders come out with similar work and that doesn't mean they've stolen from each other...just that the annoyance the mod is addressing is bad enough that more than one person cares to fix it.

I'm not downloading your particular hack, but that's just because I already have JM's, and his does what I want. Yours does some things I don't want (personal taste). Specifically "No more senseless fights or fights for fun only!" Fights should always be senseless.  :-*


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 23, 18:34:31
Cannot be any conflicts with any hacks or mods installed.But if you don't want have fights wants&fears, of course don't download
this "item".And don't be so serious :) It is only game-nothing more. ;D


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: syberspunk on 2007 May 23, 20:45:28
Actually... it would conflict with my teenwoohoowants hack, which modifies the same file, hence Pescado pointing out his disdain for such "core" file type hacks, because there can only be ONE! :D

Ste


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 23, 21:13:16
What do you mean The same file?Wanttrees.package?Seems Wanttrees is icon recharging and retriggering system and I don't
see any links with hacks in Downloads.It is "other side of the moon" :)


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Venusy on 2007 May 23, 21:44:12
I think that Syberspunk is referring to this hack (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,4464.0.html).

And I think these sort of hacks only break patches if the patch needs to modify that file (which is why some patches barf if you just edit Graphics Rules.sgr, it isn't the file the patch expected, but non-patched files aren't read).


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 23, 22:22:53
Ok Trees that was modified don't have any attitude to woohoo or any same interactions.For EP4 I only lowered
chance to appear some Wants in Wants slots.
Nothing important not changed at all.And of course I don't remove any core trees,but only
add in some trees Wants and Fears about fighting.When you play in uni - game run EP1 trees and after it
fillfulled game run random trees with chance of random wants as Fight,Invite someone,see any ghost t.c.
In this case I don't see any chance to conflict with hacks in downloads or packages in other EPs directories.
All I wanted is to have some missing wants in my game and made it not for competion in modding!
And my favorite prog not SimPE but CubaseSX because in 'not sim life 'I make music.
In any case thank you all for discussion :)


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: ElfPuddle on 2007 May 24, 15:48:07
Ok Trees that was modified don't have any attitude to woohoo or any same interactions.For EP4 I only lowered
chance to appear some Wants in Wants slots.
Nothing important not changed at all.And of course I don't remove any core trees,but only
add in some trees Wants and Fears about fighting.

I believe they're saying that any changes to those trees IS important. Hence the conflicts.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 24, 16:58:58
I think that right way to say anything about anything is to try this at first. :)


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 May 24, 17:33:57
I think that right way to say anything about anything is to try this at first. :)
You also promote using deleteallcharacters and trashing sims with wants & fears from the bin. Both of which, when done regularly, cause ye ole ball of fire.  So, yeah....perhaps it would be a good idea to recognize that the top hack/modders here may know better.

You've got a very big obsession with fights, too. I think even Pescado would be alarmed.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 24, 18:21:03
About obsession with fight you don't right at all.I'm not sportsman and Klitschko not my friend but only countryman.And I don't
have any wish turn game to fightsmadness!About J.M., it was only joke and I'm really sorry if it somehow insult him.But your captiousness surprise me a little. ;D


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 May 24, 19:15:33
I like fights. But modifying the core game files is "not recommended", as it may break patching and only a single such item can be installed. As such, this sort of thing is not recommended.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: rohina on 2007 May 24, 19:42:31
You might want to intensify the heat on your rhetoric. Remember what happened when you told MisterPaper you wouldn't recommend something?


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 24, 19:48:21
I like fights. But modifying the core game files is "not recommended", as it may break patching and only a single such item can be installed. As such, this sort of thing is not recommended.
Ahh... interesting Squinqe,syberspunk and others who made similar core mods known about it?Or maybe exist some kind of
permission or privilege to make some modification? :) As I noticed above I even don't want to think about competition in modding.
Thank you J.M. for warning and I want to ask anyone on MATY Do Not Download this item!


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: kuronue on 2007 May 24, 20:39:06
I like fights. But modifying the core game files is "not recommended", as it may break patching and only a single such item can be installed. As such, this sort of thing is not recommended.
Ahh... interesting Squinqe,syberspunk and others who made similar core mods known about it?Or maybe exist some kind of
permission or privilege to make some modification? :) As I noticed above I even don't want to think about competition in modding.
Thank you J.M. for warning and I want to ask anyone on MATY Do Not Download this item!

yes, they know. Most of them post "not compatible with any other core-altering files hack".


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 24, 20:55:55
But always can be updated. Right? :)


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Paperbladder on 2007 May 24, 21:38:57
You might want to intensify the heat on your rhetoric. Remember what happened when you told MisterPaper you wouldn't recommend something?
Pissing off a bunch of cat lovers is different than replacing core game files.

I don't entirely agree with this "don't replace core game files" thing.  As long as you backup whatever you replace then it should be fine.  Just be aware that some hacks may screw up your game though.  For patching the patching issue, just replace any modified file with the backed up file.  Then again, the Sims community is one where people don't even know how to open a .rar file so I doubt they'd do this stuff.

The practice of replacing core files wasn't recommended in TS1 either but not many people actually did it.  You could replace the effects of core game files by sticking an .iff file like "PersonGlobals.iff" in the directory which contained the object file's archive (Like "Globals").  The archives, which were .far files, would be the ones modified by any patches.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Li'l Brudder on 2007 May 24, 21:42:02
Hey, don't roll your eyes at us.

We're trying to help you not create a hassle and possibly a very large problem.

You should be bowing down.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 24, 21:53:39
Hey, don't roll your eyes at us.

We're trying to help you not create a hassle and possibly a very large problem.

You should be bowing down.
May be interesting too!Read reply 20 and 21 http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,8273.0.html
It appears that invoked (in my manner)And realy I ask somebody for help?And about what problem are you talking?
Game cannot be problem(especially large)even it's totally crashed! ;D


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 May 24, 22:06:30
About obsession with fight you don't right at all.I'm not sportsman and Klitschko not my friend but only countryman.And I don't
have any wish turn game to fightsmadness!About J.M., it was only joke and I'm really sorry if it somehow insult him.But your captiousness surprise me a little. ;D
Captiousness? No, I wasn't trying to find faults, I just was listing some other behaviors you've posted as suggestions before which are well-known game-killers. This makes me trust your stating that your hack isn't potentially problematic unlikely as compared to the posts of others.

The fight-loving comment was based off of a couple posts you made before about sims of yours who have had 450+ and 100+ fights. That's a heck of a lot of sim-on-sim action, and was noted as an observation as to why having a fight mod was so important to you, and also a minor dig at JM's vindictive nature in regards to his sims. Not that I can't be accused of the same...I'm in the midst of a mass-murdering, zombifying, neighborhood-flattening spree. Plus, a recently deceased dog in my neighborhood (Bert) was in approximately 15 brawls as apparently he was the neighborhood's bitch.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 24, 22:23:24
Well, I especially like to play in uni dorms and many of YA with very low asp points (and in enemy state with someone) can gain
points from fighs with enemies.And finally with all monsters that presented in game  I don't think that TS2 really kind game. :)


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Kyna on 2007 May 25, 02:58:31
For me what it boils down to is who do I trust when it comes to modding my game.

Do I trust someone who has been keeping my game running by providing bug fixes and quality advice since before uni came out.  Or do I trust someone who recommends doing things KNOWN to break the game (such as using delete all characters, or deleting characters from the sim bin).

Pescado's advice can be a little conservative at times.  I believe the reason for that is because there are people in this community who don't even know how to make a Downloads folder or how to unzip a file.  He pitches his advice to the level of people who don't have a clue in how to avoid a BFBVFS.

Don't mistake me for a Pescado-sheep.  There are times when I ignore his advice.  I've been playing this game and been in this community long enough now to be aware of the implications of my decisions when it comes to choosing mods for my game.  If a core-altering game file does something I REALLY want, then I'll use it but ONLY if I trust the modder.

Game cannot be problem(especially large)even it's totally crashed! ;D

This is a weird attitude for a modder to have.  To paraphrase: "If my mod crashes your game ... then it's no problem".  Well, not for you as the modder, maybe.  But it would be for me as a player.  I spend a lot of time preparing my neighbourhoods to play, and then a heck of a lot more time playing my characters.  If a mod (by anyone) turned my neighbourhood into a BFBVFS then it would be a huge problem for me - all the play time since my last backup would be lost.  I spend time playing my game to have fun.  I don't want to spend time isolating which mod has stuffed up my game, then restoring the game from backup, then replaying the sim events that were lost.  That's an exercise in frustration, not fun.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: witch on 2007 May 25, 08:06:46
Alexx, I think I need to introduce you to Gali.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 May 25, 14:58:37
If a mod (by anyone) turned my neighbourhood into a BFBVFS then it would be a huge problem for me - all the play time since my last backup would be lost. 
What's a backup? *prefers to live dangerously...stupidly...but dangerously*  I backup my custom content periodically, but not my 'hoods.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 25, 18:48:04
You must do backup of EA Games Directory with all contents - C:\Documents and Settings\User name\My Documents\EA Games :)


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: vcline on 2007 May 25, 19:15:00
I like to use SimPE to back up neighborhoods.  It names the files using date and time, so you know which is the most recent.  You do have to do each neighborhood separately, though.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 May 25, 19:52:44
Thanks, kids. I know how to do it, I just don't, and was poking fun at myself.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 25, 19:53:16
But I think that better way don't lose anything ,it time to time make backup on DVD-RW with all EA Games folder contents,because
don't forget about that HD can crash.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: witch on 2007 May 25, 19:55:58
I use Syncback, a free backup/synchronisation tool. I backup the downloads folder, pictures from both storytelling folders, my hood, movies, collections, config folder and saved sims. These can be backed up to a zip file as long as it's under 4GB, so I make a zip of each folder. I back up the hood before every play session, takes less than a minute. Once a week I copy all the backups to an external hard drive. (Saturday morning when I do boring RL housework). Syncback does all that for me, I have preset profiles which can also be exported/saved.

I don't trust SimPE, it's corrupted hoods before, for me.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 May 25, 20:22:59
I'm absolutely accept about SimPE.It still very unpredictable tool and I had totally crashed one of my hoods with it.
Thanks for info about Syncback.I don't know this tool.Need to keep look on it.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: witch on 2007 May 25, 21:14:46
http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html

Quote
• No Spyware, Trojans, Viruses, or Advertisements
• No Nag Screens
• No Registrations
• No Payments
• No Collection of Demographic Information
• No Unauthorised Internet Connections

ETA: The only thing I haven't worked out how to do is append dates to the zip filenames automatically.


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 June 03, 11:48:51
Mod was updated with new features(futures).If you interesting, you can find it on Insimenator. :)(link above)


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: AnnaM on 2007 June 03, 17:03:06
A bright new future awaits you on Insiminator!!  ;D


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: Alexx on 2007 June 03, 18:24:29
A bright new future awaits you on Insiminator!!  ;D
Oops!Sorry for funny misprint!


Title: Re: It may be interesting for you
Post by: AnnaM on 2007 June 04, 09:07:31
Hey! Funny misprints are good, no need to apologise. Only boring misprints are bad.