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TS2: Burnination => The Podium => Topic started by: Morague on 2007 May 13, 11:55:15



Title: no weeds at all?
Post by: Morague on 2007 May 13, 11:55:15
Hi :)

I'm just checking to see if this is what is supposed to happen or if my lot is buggy.

I made a greenhouse & put in one ladybug thing. Set out 24 plots, composted them & planted 4 of each kind of vegi. Everything went fine - absolutely no bugs, very little talking but the weird thing is I never got any weeds at all through the whole season.  About the only thing I needed to do was water them.

Is this normal? I seem to remember weeds in a prior greenhouse, but, those sims didn't have gold badges & these sims do. I'm getting weeds on other lots that don't have a greenhouse (can't afford it yet).

Any thoughts? I want the weeds so the kids can buikld up gardening badges.

Morague


Title: Re: no weeds at all?
Post by: Hook on 2007 May 13, 12:31:37
Pescado's Indoor Plant Fixes will prevent weeds from spawning inside a greenhouse.  Weeds will still spawn outside.

Hook


Title: Re: no weeds at all?
Post by: Emma on 2007 May 13, 12:45:53
Yeah, what I tend to do is have a patch outside for about 9 plants, and I also have a greenhouse with about 12 in.  The one outside is really for earning the badges and filling the fridge and indoors is to keep the shop stocked. I have sprinklers in my greenhouse, but no ladybug houses. I keep those for outside.


Title: Re: no weeds at all?
Post by: purplehaze on 2007 May 13, 15:51:08
You don't need ladybug houses in a green house. You won't get bugs in there. I've never had weeds in a greenhouse..even with a broken sprinkler.


Title: Re: no weeds at all?
Post by: Hook on 2007 May 13, 18:13:34
Before the patch, plants inside a greenhouse could get overwatered. I don't remember if they also got weeds.  I believe they did.

Since I got Pescado's hack, there haven't been any weeds in the greenhouse at all.

My typical gardens are 10 outdoor plots for a single family, or 40 greenhouse plots for someone growing food to sell.

Hook


Title: Re: no weeds at all?
Post by: Morague on 2007 May 13, 22:53:51
Ah - so that's the culprit.

I also just figured out that something is preventing my sims from becoming Plantsims. I have been trying & trying & trying for ages & not once did I get one. Then investigating (I think it's Macrotastics) I discovered that it's set up to prevent this from happening.

I know I can just use the FFS debugger to do it but that takes all of the fun & surprise out of it.

Thanks :)

Morague


Title: Re: no weeds at all?
Post by: Gwill on 2007 May 14, 10:33:21
I think I had a macrotastic gardener turn plantsim.  I wasn't keeping an eye on him at the time so I'm not sure.


Title: Re: no weeds at all?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 May 14, 10:45:20
I think I had a macrotastic gardener turn plantsim.  I wasn't keeping an eye on him at the time so I'm not sure.
Macrotastics will not take actions that turn a playable sim into a plantsim. However, NPC gardeners spray, and this can turn them into plants, as will townies and other nonplayables. A playable adult/elder will not be ordered to spray a plant unless he is a plantsim or robot. Child/teen/YAs are immune to plantsimism and therefore can safely spray.


Title: Re: no weeds at all?
Post by: Sagana on 2007 May 14, 11:02:45
Plantsimism falls firmly into EA/Maxis sadorandom code-base. If you want it, it ain't agonna happen.


Title: Re: no weeds at all?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 May 14, 11:25:37
Also, plantsimism is an artifact of spraying, not weeding. And you never got bugs inside a greenhouse, even under default Maxis. Indoorplantfix greatly reduces weeds-in-greenhouses for realism: Who exactly plants all these weeds again? It's still possible to get them, but they're much less likely and require that YOU do something to promote this sort of problem.