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Title: Please Help!
Post by: Carlynn on 2007 April 13, 06:42:49
Ok.  I have a problem.  I have posted about this at several other forums, including contacting EA about it and NO ONE seems to be able to help me.  I did a search that somehow brought me here so I am hoping someone can help me!  Here's the deal!

I have NO custom content in my Sims game other than the ones made by Maxis.  I have all of the Sims2 games (EPs & SPs). In CAS when you use boolProp and choose the alien, zombie or mannequin skin there are suppose to be heads (with the alien it is a specific set of facial features as well) that go with those. When you choose to change the head there should only be one head in there. In my game there are NONE. They are gone. Also, the werewolf full face paint is gone. The alien black eyes are still there though. I have had a bunch of people tell me that these files don't exist or that they are custom content.  THEY ARE NOT!  These files were also in my daughter's game and I could have copied them to my flash drive and transferred them to my PC & game but since my son got a virus in her PC and I had to reformat it, she lost the files and we haven't put the game back in yet.

I did have to reformat my PC lately and I was hoping that the files would be there when I reinstalled.  But no.

I know these files are on the discs somewhere but I don't know where or how to get them off of there and back in my game.

These are the numbers of the files that used to be in my game.  I checked with a friend of mine for the numbers:

0x0c560f39-0x4f184229-0x71c77514

0x6c4f359d-0x4f184229-0xb1720b1f

0x2c1fd821-0x2c176742-0x11c77514

affacelycan_s1

I installed an old neighborhood I had created with families using each head and those are showing up as they should.  I am told that this means the files are still in my PC somewhere or their heads would go back to something else. 

Also, no one can tell me why this is happening.  I use these files all the time to make strange families.  I wish someone could just find and zip them up and send them to me because this is really giving me a migraine now. 

Any help would be GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!  Many thanks in advance!


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Marhis on 2007 April 13, 07:37:17
Yup, they are not custom content: that stuff is entirely contained in game files (those installed by default). Just for the love of details, they should be in c://Programs/The Sims 2/TSData/Res/SimsD/Sim006.package or similar (one of those Simsxx numbered packages).

Try to reinstall the game, maybe somehow those files got borked; they are not related to your hoods, or saved games, only to base installation


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: SaraMK on 2007 April 13, 08:58:33
Where exactly did you used to have these files? I mean, were they individual files in your Downloads folder, or are you saying you figured out that these files are missing from inside the big archives in the Program Files directory?


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Argon on 2007 April 13, 09:28:37
I'm a little lost, unless someone made a hack that I wasn't aware of I didn't think the alien face archtype was available in CAS? The closest I can come up with is the 2 button in CAS that shows you saved Sim faces with that particular skintone, the game doesn't have one for the alien skin by default (though if you want to brave the ts2 site's Exchange, it's not hard to find the Pollination Technician).

Those look like instance numbers, but what they're for I haven't a clue.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: SaraMK on 2007 April 13, 19:48:31
I'm a little lost, unless someone made a hack that I wasn't aware of I didn't think the alien face archtype was available in CAS? The closest I can come up with is the 2 button in CAS that shows you saved Sim faces with that particular skintone, the game doesn't have one for the alien skin by default (though if you want to brave the ts2 site's Exchange, it's not hard to find the Pollination Technician).

Those look like instance numbers, but what they're for I haven't a clue.

Yeah, you know, I almost posted about that, but I wasn't 100% sure. So I checked. There is NO alien, zombie, or manequin head in CAS, in debug mode or otherwise.

There is a werewolf full-face makeup, however. It's just a face from the light skintone. There is no thumbnail for it, so it looks like a regular face, but when you click it the sim gets the werewolf face.

I'd say the original poster had downloade something weird. Maybe a house with lots of crap. That's why I asked where he or she had seen the files. If they were in the Downloads folder, that would be an indication that they had been downloaded, since the game doesn't even have a Downloads folder until you download and install something. Also, those long crazy strings of letters and numbers are often files that come with downloaded lots.

In any case, those files, as individual files, are NOT part of a normal game installation. For example, the werewolf face should be part of one of the Sims0# archives in Program Files. It should never be an individual file. So, again, I really want to know where the original poster recalls seeing these files.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Liss on 2007 April 13, 19:57:02
That confused me, too.  I've never had the alien archetype head....there is one that is elfish with pointed ears, though, maybe you are thinking of that one?


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Tamha on 2007 April 13, 20:53:31
Sometimes Maxis-made downloadable sims include facial templates. If you download all Maxis CC, it's possible that these were attached to sims you downloaded.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: SaraMK on 2007 April 13, 23:45:54
There are currently five known downloadable sims who are facial templates. None of them look like the prototype alien... although they are ugly enough to pass for zombies.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: kuronue on 2007 April 13, 23:48:33
If you somehow made an alien sim in bodyshop they'd have a face in CAS step 2, right? If you did the export-to-bodyshop trick for a BIG sim?


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: SaraMK on 2007 April 13, 23:52:36
If you somehow made an alien sim in bodyshop they'd have a face in CAS step 2, right? If you did the export-to-bodyshop trick for a BIG sim?

The alien skintone doesn't show up in Bodyshop, so this wouldn't work. You would have to create a sim in the game, export with SimPE's surgery, and then import into the game. If someone went through all that, you'd think they'd remember doing it. Alternately there may be hacks that enable the alien skin in Bodyshop, but the OP claims not to have downloaded hacks.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: kuronue on 2007 April 13, 23:54:22
..you can hack bodyshop?  :o


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: SaraMK on 2007 April 13, 23:56:01
..you can hack bodyshop?  :o

No, but you can hack skins that normally don't show up in Bodyshop so that they will show up. I think. I personally haven't used... or seen, actually, any.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Carlynn on 2007 April 15, 01:07:39
Yup, they are not custom content: that stuff is entirely contained in game files (those installed by default). Just for the love of details, they should be in c://Programs/The Sims 2/TSData/Res/SimsD/Sim006.package or similar (one of those Simsxx numbered packages).

Try to reinstall the game, maybe somehow those files got borked; they are not related to your hoods, or saved games, only to base installation

First of all, thank you!  Someone else has (or in my case HAD) these files and everyone else here is WRONG!  I can even post a link to thesims2.com about this very thing. 

There IS SUPPOSE TO BE (IN DEBUG MODE) an alien, mannequin, and zombie skin tone.  This is even mentioned in Prima's official Cheats guide, as well as several places on the internet.  Just as there are big black alien eyes.  The second step should in fact be to choose a head and that is where my files are NOT showing up.  So if someone else is missing these heads, or the skin tones - there is something wrong in your game too. 

I am beginning to think it has to do with a Windows XP update because mine is completely up to date.  My daughter also has TS2 but no internet connection at all and guess what.  She has them in hers.  That is the only difference.  That and she doesn't have Pets or Seasons.  However, I just did a reinstall and these files were STILL missing BEFORE I put Pets or Seasons in there.  So that isn't it either.

I've done the uninstall and reinstall.  Nothing. 

I made alien, zombie and mannequin families all the time in CAS.  I even have them in my game.  I just can't make them anymore cause the heads are gone.  I'll go to the file spot and find them.  I just want to know how I get them back to where they go.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Tamha on 2007 April 15, 01:29:31
Look, just because you had faces for these skintones doesn't mean they are supposed to be there. Before I even knew there was downloadable content for the Sims 2, when all I had was up to NL, I found the debug cheat and created myself an alien family. They did not have any facial templates. Also, I'm surprised that you aren't also complaining about your mannequin sims not being able to give birth, because unless you've downloaded something non-Maxis hacked CC, they have no baby skintone. Could one of your kids possibly have downloaded CC for the Sims onto your computer?


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Venusy on 2007 April 15, 01:37:25
I've never seen the zombie and mannequin facial archetypes, either on Windows XP or Vista. I have seen alien archetypes though, but they aren't the EA ones (due to a Multi-PT hack I guess).

Also:
I made alien, zombie and mannequin families all the time in CAS.  I even have them in my game.  I just can't make them anymore cause the heads are gone.  I'll go to the file spot and find them.  I just want to know how I get them back to where they go.
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/Venusy/Emoticons/emot-siren.gif)POTENTIAL BFBVFS DETECTED.(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/Venusy/Emoticons/emot-siren.gif)
(just don't let the mannequins breed and your game should be fine.)

And can't you just go into the face options panel and choose a new face that way (yes, it might not be the same, but you can still create alien and zombie faces that way, can't you?)


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: SaraMK on 2007 April 15, 01:52:38
I can even post a link to thesims2.com about this very thing. 

That would be a good idea.

Quote
There IS SUPPOSE TO BE (IN DEBUG MODE) an alien, mannequin, and zombie skin tone.

No one is disagreeing with this. Everyone can access the skintones. But, no one besides you seems to think there are any HEADS associated with these skintones.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Carlynn on 2007 April 15, 02:30:16
About 3/4 of the way down is a post from a gal named Dixielandsh who also has the same files as me (the ones I have missing), which proves they should be there.

http://bbs.thesims2.ea.com/community/bbs/messages.php?&openItemID=item.2,item.61,item.104,item.41,item.127,item.23&threadID=60f06538559170c526e77f06b2760d75&directoryID=21&startRow=1

For the record, when I wrote this I had some custom content hair files.  But as the other gal writes, she has NO CC, hacks or the like.  And, if you read the VERY FIRST RESPONSE that I got here, that person also says that yes, they ARE there and goes as far as telling where they are.

I just want them showing back up.  I'm trying to figure out WHY they are still in my daughter's PC who has NO internet connection and no CC (other than the same ones I have from pre-orders) STILL has these.

At MTS2, they have a replacement for the default alien face IN CAS.  http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=209816
It shows in the preview a photo of the original CAS default and of the replacement one as well.  I am also looking to see if anyone has redone the zombie or mannequin. 

So see, they SHOULD be there.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: SaraMK on 2007 April 15, 03:07:41
That's not evidence that an alien head should be in CAS. It's just as likely that the creator imported the default alien into CAS in order to take comparison pictures.

Did you ever install the Bodyshop Welcome Package, or whatever it was called? It came out before the game did, and was supposed to contain some extra skins. Since it was a Maxis download, and you say you've downloaded Maxis items, maybe you downloaded that. Who knows what was inside that thing.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: notveryawesome on 2007 April 15, 03:23:42
Carlynn, are you aware that CAPITAL LETTERS are the internet equivalent of SHOUTING? I understand that you are frustrated with your game, but YELLING isn't necessarily the BEST WAY to get people to help you. Just an idea...


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: purplehaze on 2007 April 15, 03:39:27
Dixielandish is usually wrong. Just because the sheep give her bene's doesn't mean she isn't full of it.  I recently *shudders* got bored and wandered into the sheep pen. I laughed my head off at some of the stuff she/he/it came up with. 

*edited for unclarity


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: nocomment on 2007 April 15, 05:55:10
Carlynn - you got some info from a friend's computer.  Can you use that computer again?  Can you tell us the actual file names you're looking at?  And where they're located?  If you do, we can look for them on our computers.

Here is what I remember from way back when the game was new.

There was no way to get to the alien skin.  Maxis locked this away because they wanted it to be special.  Using debug mode didn't work, the skin simply couldn't be accessed by Bodyshop or CAS.

Someone extracted the polination tech and put him up for download.  By downloading him you got the skin, the eyes, his head, and the mad scientist outfit.

Does anyone else remember this?



Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: notveryawesome on 2007 April 15, 06:38:38
Yes, I have the extracted Pollination Technician, which I downloaded from the Exchange. Just do a search there for 'pollination' or 'alien' or some such.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Marhis on 2007 April 15, 15:07:06
Actually, you can create sims with mannequin, zombie or alien skin, but you need first to enter CAS in debug mode, and you can't do the same thing in BodyShop.

If you put boolprop testingcheatsenabled true in your userStartup.cheat file, AND do shift-N as soon as CAS loads, then you'll find alien, zombie and mannequin skins in the skin area, and the werewolf mask in the costume makeup area.
Alien, zombie and mannequin "faces" are part of the skin itself, which also contains the alien eyes. No 3D face archetype is shown, though, only the skin part: is that what you meant for "faces"?

You can't put e.g. an alien face skin on another skin: they're connected, and when you choose an alien skin for that sim, automatically it will have also the alien skin face. Alien eyes are a different matter, 'cause they need an empty "eye color selection", and you can't do it in CAS. Aliens in game have an automatic empty (or transparent) eye color, so the default black alien eye is shown. But that kind of "transparent eyecolor" is linked to alien skintone, and can't be used with different skintones.

Anyway, the only skintone safe to use in game is the alien one, because it's built for that, and it works genetically just like any other custom skintone (genetically dominant, i.e. with genetic value = 0). The other skintones are not intended for use in gameplay, and they lack of some parts, e.g. as Venusy said, the baby one.
I'm not sure about the BFBVFS, but I'm pretty sure about huge and dangerous crashes when a sim give birth to a baby which has inherited a mannequin skintone (and that skintone is genetically dominant).
The game will crash whenever it will not find a correct skintone for the baby: some Strangetown characters are genetically borked, and have an empty skintone string in their DNA; the result, if they pass that empty string to their spawn, is a huge crash. And no, Maxis said centuries ago that they would fix the issue, but never did.
In short, be very careful with those experiments.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: ElfPuddle on 2007 April 16, 15:10:31
First of all, thank you!  Someone else has (or in my case HAD) these files and everyone else here is WRONG!  I can even post a link to thesims2.com about this very thing. 

I think it's awfully amusing that you came here for help/advice and are now yelling about how wrong we are...not to mention a quote from the BBS as "proof" when most BBS advice is either off-the-wall or will break a game faster than you can say OMGBELLA!!!111oneoneone .


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: purplehaze on 2007 April 16, 15:47:29
First of all, thank you!  Someone else has (or in my case HAD) these files and everyone else here is WRONG!  I can even post a link to thesims2.com about this very thing. 

I think it's awfully amusing that you came here for help/advice and are now yelling about how wrong we are...not to mention a quote from the BBS as "proof" when most BBS advice is either off-the-wall or will break a game faster than you can say OMGBELLA!!!111oneoneone .

Thanks for that. The amount of misinformation and plain bad advice is rampant on the BBS. Oh...and a big wave from a fellow NoDak.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: ElfPuddle on 2007 April 16, 15:51:39
[offtopic] Whereabouts in our gloriously-finally-found-Spring state? [/offtopic]


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: purplehaze on 2007 April 16, 22:09:59
WARNING: OT

I am a Minotian. ( Minot). Right now I'm at my home in Arizona. I'm coming back the end of May. *scowls*  And you?


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: ElfPuddle on 2007 April 17, 00:00:30
soon to be leaving Bismarck for the SouthEast

Why is it that every time I see Minotian I think Minotaur?


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: purplehaze on 2007 April 17, 00:56:21
I also think of Minoan. LOL  Most people there call themselves Minoters. I like the more elegant Minotian.  ::)


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Li'l Brudder on 2007 April 17, 03:25:27
Minot?

MINOT?
/me faints dead.

So many bad memories.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Carlynn on 2007 April 17, 07:40:52
The closest I can come up with is the 2 button in CAS that shows you saved Sim faces with that particular skintone

Those look like instance numbers, but what they're for I haven't a clue.

This is where it SHOULD be but I have nothing there.  Before when I clicked on the head that was there, I would have an alien shaped head.  How do I get it back there?  Cause I am using a program right now to locate the files and it is pretty rough!

These are the numbers that pop up when you run the mouse over the object in CAS in debug mode.

No, my kids have downloaded no CC into my system.  They are not allowed on this computer.  They each have their own computers.  I did find the werewolf face paint.  Just can't figure out why the head shapes are gone now.  I wish I had a way to post the ones I made before.  I have 2 alien families, a zombie family and a mannequin family, all with distinct heads that showed up when I chose those skins.

Honestly, I could care less anymore about any but the alien one.  Head I mean.  I just can't figure out why my step #2 is BLANK when it use to have something in there.

As far as using all caps, yeah, I realize that it considered yelling IF you use it continuously.  But when you use it on a word or two it shows emphasis only.

Sorry to be such a pain in the ass, but I just KNOW what my game had in it, what my daughter's game has in it and what my friend's game has in it - none of us having any CC or shared files.  And I am the only one with missing stuff.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Carlynn on 2007 April 17, 08:06:39

You can't put e.g. an alien face skin on another skin: they're connected, and when you choose an alien skin for that sim, automatically it will have also the alien skin face. Alien eyes are a different matter, 'cause they need an empty "eye color selection", and you can't do it in CAS. Aliens in game have an automatic empty (or transparent) eye color, so the default black alien eye is shown. But that kind of "transparent eyecolor" is linked to alien skintone, and can't be used with different skintones.


That's the thing.  I used to get the "skin face."  Maybe that is the proper word for it.  There was a head in step 2.  No more.  Now when I select the alien (or zombie) skin, I am able to put it on any head at all.  Not the normal one for that skin tone.  Is this starting to make more sense now?  I guess I was thinking heads all this time because there were heads in step 2 in CAS.  I don't get the Pollination Tech shaped heads when I choose that skintone.  That is what is bugging the hell out of me.  That and the head being missing from step 2.  If someone can help me get this straightened out, I'll be forever grateful!

Thank you for explaining this better!


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Ness on 2007 April 17, 08:07:11
Do you not think it odd that in a forum of over 4000 people, there's not a single person come up and said "yep, I've got them too"?

Just a thought...


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Carlynn on 2007 April 17, 08:23:10
Obviously you didn't read my last post. 

There is suppose to be a face of a saved sim in there (someone posted that earlier) and mine is gone.  Someone also posted that when you choose the alien skin it automatically went to the alien face.  Mine no longer does.  Once he explained there was no actual head but these things should be there/should happen, I understand better. 

So if someone else in here says that "the only thing they can think of is the head of a saved sim in step 2" (or something to that effect) then I am not completely wrong.  There should be something in step 2 that I am missing.  And if someone says that you choose the alien skin and you automatically get the alien face and I am not, the I am not totally wrong because something is not right in my game.

At this point all I am asking for is help in getting the picture of the alien face back and the game fixed so that when creating aliens their heads have the right shape.  No more and no less.  I don't care about the zombies or mannequins anymore.  Just the aliens.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: nocomment on 2007 April 17, 08:50:39
If all you want is the face, then download an extracted polination tech.  This will put an alien face into step 2.

Step 2 is simply a chance to choose a pre-designed face.  It could be one made by Maxis, or downloaded.  You only had one face available for that skintone.  If you downloaded another alien with that skintone, you would have two faces at Step 2.



Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: floopyboo on 2007 April 17, 10:27:39
Carlynn, you're an arsemonkey. You obviously have all the answers, so why not go bother some other forum with your insipid whining?

Much love & kisses,

me.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: ElfPuddle on 2007 April 17, 13:14:01
*hands floopy some mouthwash for use after kissing Carlynn*




Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Marhis on 2007 April 17, 14:19:30
Ok, now I think I got it. As nocomment said, exactly.

The faces you get in CAS step 2 are some preinstalled by the game plus those, customized, that you have in sims you built (or installed) in BodyShop.
Example: I have in BodyShop copies of many of my preferred born-in-game sims: they're in the CAS sim bin, and their faces (heads) shows up in CAS step 2. They're born in game, so they're not original facial archetypes, but customized faces.

If you had the standard alien 3D head in it, then, it must have been a facial archetype somehow inherited from a customized sim in sim bin: the hypothesis of an extracted pollination technician, or something like that is definitely the most likely explanation. Another easy explaination is that in your simbin there was a copy of one of your alien sims.

In a nutshell: yes, the alien face archetype is embedded in normal game files, but no, it will not shows up anywhere, in debug mode or not, as per game design, debugging included.
You can show hidden skintones, outfits and masks, by meant of debug mode, but no hidden facial archetypes, of any kind.

The only way to have any facial archetype shown in CAS step 2 is to add it, i.e. extract it from game files, package it and then put it in Downloads or SavedSims folder.

So, basically, if that head was present before and now it's not, it must be because of some additional file you now are missing, or maybe yet present but disabled/hidden by some EP installation, or patch, or other stuff.

Even shorter, there's no way to have it back reinstalling nor replacing default game files: the head you're looking for is, exactly, in C:\Programs\EA Games\The Sims 2\TSData\Res\Sims3D\CASFace.package.

The alien face is composed by:
afArchAlien_cres
afArchAlien_tslocator_gmdc
afArchAlien_tslocator_gmnd
afArchAlien_shpe
amArchAlien_cres
amArchAlien_tslocator_gmdc
amArchAlien_tslocator_gmnd
amArchAlien_shpe
buArchAlien_cres
buArchAlien_tslocator_gmdc
buArchAlien_tslocator_gmnd
buArchAlien_shpe
cuArchAlien_cres
cuArchAlien_tslocator_gmdc
cuArchAlien_tslocator_gmnd
cuArchAlien_shpe
efArchAlien_cres
efArchAlien_tslocator_gmdc
efArchAlien_tslocator_gmnd
efArchAlien_shpe
emArchAlien_cres
emArchAlien_tslocator_gmdc
emArchAlien_tslocator_gmnd
emArchAlien_shpe
puArchAlien_cres
puArchAlien_tslocator_gmdc
puArchAlien_tslocator_gmnd
puArchAlien_shpe
tfArchAlien_cres
tfArchAlien_tslocator_gmdc
tfArchAlien_tslocator_gmnd
tfArchAlien_shpe
tmArchAlien_cres
tmArchAlien_tslocator_gmdc
tmArchAlien_tslocator_gmnd
tmArchAlien_shpe

and the corresponding LOD15.

But there's no single file containing them, only the whole CASFace.package, which contains all other archetypes as well.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: purplehaze on 2007 April 17, 14:33:23
Minot?

MINOT?
/me faints dead.

So many bad memories.

Air Force..right? I'm with you. I despise the town. I lived there all of my life. I didn't know I was free to leave until I was 24. Two years ago, I successfully climbed the wall to freedom. Well, partial freedom; I still spend four to five months a year in Minot. Unfortunately, I still have to work. I'm doing it as a favor to my District Director.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: ElfPuddle on 2007 April 17, 15:22:10
Was the train station your first clue about leaving?

I rather like Minot, but I never lived there.
I especially like the two ad slogans: "Why not Minot?" and "Where Lewis & Clark would have stayed if they'd known." ;D


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: purplehaze on 2007 April 17, 15:32:23
I rather like Minot, but I never lived there.
I especially like the two ad slogans: "Why not Minot?" and "Where Lewis & Clark would have stayed if they'd known." ;D
Remember the old tourism campaign ? I saw this on a billboard in Bismarck :  Stay in North Dakota. Custer was healthy when he left.
Also, from a tourism sign south of Minot : Welcome to North Dakota. Mountain removal project completed.  :D


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Carlynn on 2007 April 17, 19:29:00
Thank you Marhis!  I appreciate your help!  I am glad someone finally understood the situation and was able to be KIND and help.

Now to floppyboo and ElfPuddle.  What names.  Hmm.  You two don't know me yet you choose to insult me.  Now it is my turn.  I think I will start with those horrid user names.  Let's start with floppyboo.  Would this be used to describe your boyfriend?  After all, a BOO is a boyfriend.  Does he see you naked and go all floppy?  Are you THAT unappealing?  You must advertise this?  Shame.

And ElfPuddle.  Hmm...sounds like an elf pissed himself.  So you are a puddle of elf piss, huh?  How appropriate.

Now both of you can kiss my ass.  I'll be leaving now. 

Again, thank you Marhis.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: jsalemi on 2007 April 17, 19:41:32
Now both of you can kiss my ass.  I'll be leaving now. 


Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, moron.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: kuronue on 2007 April 17, 20:56:23
*snickers* for a troll who doesn't understand the point of MATY, he's rather funny.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Li'l Brudder on 2007 April 17, 21:03:14
Air Force..right? I'm with you. I despise the town. I lived there all of my life. I didn't know I was free to leave until I was 24. Two years ago, I successfully climbed the wall to freedom. Well, partial freedom; I still spend four to five months a year in Minot. Unfortunately, I still have to work. I'm doing it as a favor to my District Director.

Not quite.

I was taking a train west and Minot is one of the scheduled stops.  We were to be there a few minutes, not too long.

Then we got the news.

A train had derailed farther west and we were to wait for buses to take us to Havre, Montana.  We waited for FOUR HOURS.


Although 4-5 months a year is worse, so I pity you.  I can't imagine living there full time.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: purplehaze on 2007 April 18, 00:18:34
You had to wait in that Sh**hole station? It looks like a third world bus  terminal. My heart goes out to you. I take a shortcut through that area when I go to work. Gah! It's the seediest part of town. It is also across the road from the County Court House , Police Station and Library. It's just that the terminal sits on RR property...which they haven't tended to in 50 years. The pots holes in the road are so deep my front tire would disappear in them if I happened to hit one. Needless to say, I get a lot of practice swerving.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Li'l Brudder on 2007 April 18, 00:22:43
It did seemed kinda "antique" when I visited.  And looked like one of those Old West Saloons.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Tigerlilley on 2007 April 18, 09:12:59
Thank you Marhis!  I appreciate your help!  I am glad someone finally understood the situation and was able to be KIND and help.

Now to floppyboo and ElfPuddle.  What names.  Hmm.  You two don't know me yet you choose to insult me.  Now it is my turn.  I think I will start with those horrid user names.  Let's start with floppyboo.  Would this be used to describe your boyfriend?  After all, a BOO is a boyfriend.  Does he see you naked and go all floppy?  Are you THAT unappealing?  You must advertise this?  Shame.

And ElfPuddle.  Hmm...sounds like an elf pissed himself.  So you are a puddle of elf piss, huh?  How appropriate.

Now both of you can kiss my ass.  I'll be leaving now. 

Again, thank you Marhis.

Jeez whos ass did you climb out of.  Not our fault you have issues.  "HELP ME NOW I AM RIGHT AND KNOW EVERYTHING WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH" Boo is a boyfriend? Shit your poor man must hate being out in public with the pet names you call him.
You need a fucking bullet


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: floopyboo on 2007 April 18, 09:19:42
Let's start with floppyboo.  Would this be used to describe your boyfriend?  After all, a BOO is a boyfriend.  Does he see you naked and go all floppy?  Are you THAT unappealing?  You must advertise this?  Shame.

Wow, you're so pissed off by me that you can't even read straight. I am the champion!


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Ness on 2007 April 18, 09:28:59
The important part of this is:
I'll be leaving now. 

So, lets just pretend this never happened, shall we?


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: witch on 2007 April 18, 09:32:02
Oh I dunno, I was just thinking about hopping on over to the Honda site and telling them that my car had six wheels when I bought it. One in the boot and five round the edge. Ever since it went to the garage though, there are only four wheels round the edge. Where's my other wheel?!? My daughter has five wheels too, so I know I'm right.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Ness on 2007 April 18, 09:50:47
ROFL!  Good one, Witch!


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Gwill on 2007 April 18, 10:38:39
That's the most strained and pathetic insults I've heard in ages.
"Well, well, well... You're... POO!"
Even a good old "you'mamma" would have been better.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Annan on 2007 April 18, 11:30:07
That's the most strained and pathetic insults I've heard in ages.
"Well, well, well... You're... POO!"
Even a good old "you'mamma" would have been better.

Yes. If they'd been directed at me, I would have been insulted by the fact that the insults were so bad, rather than the way they were intended to be hurtful. "What, is that the best you can do? I don't even deserve a proper insult now?"


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: floopyboo on 2007 April 18, 11:32:11
Annann, you read my mind.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Theo on 2007 April 18, 11:50:55
the head you're looking for is, exactly, in C:\Programs\EA Games\The Sims 2\TSData\Res\Sims3D\CASFace.package.

The alien face is composed by:
afArchAlien_cres
afArchAlien_tslocator_gmdc
afArchAlien_tslocator_gmnd
[...]

and the corresponding LOD15.

But there's no single file containing them, only the whole CASFace.package, which contains all other archetypes as well.


Don't forget the XFCH resources contained in Skins.package! ;)

But the only thing worth of interest in these resources is the flags property: it's set to zero in all archetypes, except for the alien and elf faces. Interestingly enough, you don't get any generated townies or NPC's with these faces...


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: purplehaze on 2007 April 18, 14:34:29
Oh I dunno, I was just thinking about hopping on over to the Honda site and telling them that my car had six wheels when I bought it. One in the boot and five round the edge. Ever since it went to the garage though, there are only four wheels round the edge. Where's my other wheel?!? My daughter has five wheels too, so I know I'm right.

Yep...I could be riding a unicycle. Or just wheelie all the way to the training range. I think my students would be quite impressed.  :P


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: ElfPuddle on 2007 April 18, 15:05:47
Thank you Marhis!  I appreciate your help!  I am glad someone finally understood the situation and was able to be KIND and help.

Now to floppyboo and ElfPuddle.  What names.  Hmm.  You two don't know me yet you choose to insult me.  Now it is my turn.  I think I will start with those horrid user names.  Let's start with floppyboo.  Would this be used to describe your boyfriend?  After all, a BOO is a boyfriend.  Does he see you naked and go all floppy?  Are you THAT unappealing?  You must advertise this?  Shame.

And ElfPuddle.  Hmm...sounds like an elf pissed himself.  So you are a puddle of elf piss, huh?  How appropriate.

Now both of you can kiss my ass.  I'll be leaving now. 

Again, thank you Marhis.

I'm guessing you're mad because I gave floopyboo (NOT floppy!!) some mouthwash? Sensitive much, are you?

An elf pissed HERSELF....and then melted into unconsciousness. Yes, that's how I got my name, so it isn't an insult. It IS appropriate...if you knew the backstory.

Since I gave all my mouthwash to floopyboo, I can't kiss your ass or anything else. You're welcome to leave, however. Have fun with your BFBVFS and the BBS.

Buh-bye


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Argon on 2007 April 18, 15:37:17
Don't forget the XFCH resources contained in Skins.package! ;)

But the only thing worth of interest in these resources is the flags property: it's set to zero in all archetypes, except for the alien and elf faces. Interestingly enough, you don't get any generated townies or NPC's with these faces...

There's also the 3IDR and BINX inside the globalcatbin.bundle.package that actually link the XFCHs to the game, they're a pain in the butt to find though since you have to manually search through all of them until you find the reference. That's where the collection is defined, and there are a few collections that prevent items from showing up even in debug mode (for example, duplicate property sets that link adult only hairstyles to all ages; it's a combination of flags and special hidden collections).

Last night I noticed that they changed the way the vampire skin is applied in Seasons, the game calls the same function to apply the skin for vampires, werewolves, and plant sims. To decide which skin to apply, the ID of the collection is defined (via Behavior Constant) in temp 1 & 2, you'll probably be needing to look at the "Become Vampire" Behav to know what I'm talking about. In my tests I've been able to apply the werewolf skin and werewolf servo head as the vampire overlay. Perhaps it would be possible to add fitness states and overlays for certain skins by adding items to these collections?

btw, did anyone else notice that the "Cure Vampire" debug cheat no longer works? Probably because they changed the function that changes the skin.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: kuronue on 2007 April 19, 01:10:24

 Boo is a boyfriend? Shit your poor man must hate being out in public with the pet names you call him.

Actually, it is, in slang:
 (from wiki):

Slang:

    * boyfriend/girlfriend, a slang term, usually considered to be Ebonics

Hence the song "my Boo" (gag me with a spoon for even mentioning it)


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 April 19, 02:19:42
Death to Kuronues.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Ness on 2007 April 19, 02:27:43
I guess the record finally moved to the next track.   ::)


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 April 19, 02:34:05
Death to all hairy bellied Nesses (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=295).


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Ness on 2007 April 19, 02:36:14
Oops! Spoke too soon.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 April 19, 02:38:55
An elf pissed HERSELF....and then melted into unconsciousness. Yes, that's how I got my name, so it isn't an insult. It IS appropriate...if you knew the backstory.

Since I gave all my mouthwash to floopyboo, I can't kiss your ass or anything else. You're welcome to leave, however. Have fun with your BFBVFS and the BBS.
Should I put you down for "Brynne disease" as your form of torture?

Oops! Spoke too soon.
Death to all hairy bellied Nesses (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=295). And it's not a record. And when are you going to show up for Dead Ness Day in Netrek? Death to all hairy bellied Nesses (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=295)!


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: kuronue on 2007 April 19, 04:14:04
Death to Kuronues.

YAY! I've been promoted from nickname status to "death to" status! I feel so loved...


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: kewian on 2007 April 19, 05:50:12
oh hell...DEATH TO ALL PESCADOS.. ;D


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Argon on 2007 April 19, 06:06:24
oh hell...DEATH TO ALL PESCADOS.. ;D

Clearly ALL PESCADOS SUCK and have for a long time ;D
[size=0pt]http://i13.tinypic.com/491lm50.png[/size]
(http://i11.tinypic.com/2w3dv87.png)
10 out of 10 vampwerefixes agree


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: witch on 2007 April 19, 06:45:07
What, are you saying ALL PESCADOS SUCK? Why would you say ALL PESCADOS SUCK, do you know for a fact that ALL PESCADOS SUCK? I think if you are going to say ALL PESCADOS SUCK, you need to back it up with some explanation of why ALL PESCADOS SUCK.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: kewian on 2007 April 19, 07:55:30
well I have noticed while fishing that they do tend to suck when pulling the hook out of their mouths.. so yes i would have to agree.. All Pescados suck.  :P


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: ElfPuddle on 2007 April 19, 13:37:41
An elf pissed HERSELF....and then melted into unconsciousness. Yes, that's how I got my name, so it isn't an insult. It IS appropriate...if you knew the backstory.
Should I put you down for "Brynne disease" as your form of torture?

Pes, that is so sweet! Now, if the elf was actually me, rather than a poorly-planned AD&D character, I would actually say yes.
As it is, I wouldn't want to take anything away from Brynne's claim to fame.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Liss on 2007 April 19, 14:04:00
bah, people have been calling small children "Boo" since before ebonics was recognized as a language. :p


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: ElfPuddle on 2007 April 19, 14:20:50
*slaps forehead*

And here I thought it was all from To Kill a Mockingbird !


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 April 19, 14:21:57
Pes, that is so sweet! Now, if the elf was actually me, rather than a poorly-planned AD&D character, I would actually say yes.
As it is, I wouldn't want to take anything away from Brynne's claim to fame.
See, now I want to hear about this story.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: ElfPuddle on 2007 April 19, 14:25:13
I thought I told it.

Damn. Now I have to search through pages of RetardoLand.

*arms self with an armload of unborkable poking sticks, hipwaders, and an oxygen tank*
*heads off for the wilderness*


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: ElfPuddle on 2007 April 19, 14:34:03
*comes stumbling out of the wilderness gasping for air*

I found it! (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,5061.msg144438/topicseen.html#msg144438)

That was so horrifying that I had to double post...and now I need a drink.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Lorelei on 2007 April 19, 15:53:56
What, are you saying ALL PESCADOS SUCK? Why would you say ALL PESCADOS SUCK, do you know for a fact that ALL PESCADOS SUCK? I think if you are going to say ALL PESCADOS SUCK, you need to back it up with some explanation of why ALL PESCADOS SUCK.

I don't know why, but I hear Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass Band playing behind your post. It's like a song or a poem or something.

You'd have to get a catchier name than "ALL PESCADOS SUCK," though. How would one say that in Mexican-dialect Spanish?


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: kuronue on 2007 April 19, 16:26:00
Todos pescados estan muy mal?

(4 years of spanish and that's the best I could come up with... too bad you don't want "all Pescados are bitches"  or "all Pescados are whores", I could do that one...)


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Marhis on 2007 April 19, 17:44:23
Don't forget the XFCH resources contained in Skins.package! ;)
There's also the 3IDR and BINX inside the globalcatbin.bundle.package that actually link the XFCHs to the game (...)

Damn, so my advice will not work? Let's hope Dixielandish will add those infos, when the alien face will still not appear ;).

Todos pescados estan muy mal?

Italian: Tutti i Pescado fanno schifo.

Nah, it doesn't work either, the original version sounds much better.

ETA: The "death to" version sounds better in italian, instead (at least according to me):
Death to all Pescados = Morte a tutti i Pescado.

Morte instead of death has an evil and harder sound (it must be the R): MORRRRRTE!!!!


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 April 19, 22:18:34
I thought I told it.
No, that one didin't mention anything about the MELTING or the Brynne-syndrome. Clearly there details we didn't hear.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: ElfPuddle on 2007 April 20, 13:30:21
I thought you were a role-player, Pes? Surely you inferred that critical failure rolls immediately before battle caused Brynne-syndrome. Critical failure rolls during failure caused various forms of melting (hence "My little elfie kept getting nearly burninated, and the buddies started referring to her as a "puddle o' elf"....").

I thought I told it.
No, that one didin't mention anything about the MELTING or the Brynne-syndrome. Clearly there details we didn't hear.

I also thought you had good grammar. ;)


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: flowerchile on 2007 April 20, 13:40:54
Pes had a grammar?

ROFL!!!!  I crack me up..  such a punny..


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: ElfPuddle on 2007 April 20, 14:10:08
*hugs punny flower*


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 April 21, 11:47:43
I also thought you had good grammar. ;)
Yes, but I'm also told that I'm a broken record, so tracks get repeated or skipped.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: dragoness on 2007 April 21, 12:12:31
...Is it mean that every time I see there's new posts in this thread, I check and see if the OP came back with some more dumb insults?

Those were so entertaining.  :'(


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 April 21, 12:15:02
Maybe. It depends on your definition of mean. That seems par for the course here, though. If it seems like it's mean, it's probably the right thing to do. SOME people, which we will tentatively refer to as "wussies", would disagree, but who cares what they think? Not me!


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Sagana on 2007 April 21, 12:38:05
Some people, conditionally proven to add helpful things to an otherwise irritating game, get cranky if they aren't fed now and then. Occasionally throwing them a hunk of raw meat or providing a spurt of blood is encouraged in hopes of redirecting their attention to the task. Overfeeding should be discouraged.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: miros on 2007 April 21, 12:47:19
Yeah, if you overfeed, he hibernates for a while and doesn't fix any hacks.  You need to feed him just enough to sustain life!


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: RainbowTigress on 2007 April 26, 11:56:19
Mmmmm...Pescados! (http://www.donquijote.org/culture/recipes/cat.asp?cat=7)


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: notveryawesome on 2007 April 28, 02:28:21
I'm curious... If one of the goals of MATY is to keep out the BBS sheep like the Carlynn person who started this thread and then threw a hissy fit when people tried to help her, why on earth are folks Google-bombing such mystifying phrases as Death to All Hairy Bellied Nesses and All Pescados Suck? Just wondering. :-*


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 April 28, 03:44:44
Death to all hairy bellied Nesses (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=295).


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: SaraMK on 2007 April 28, 05:14:20
All Pescados Suck.


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: flowerchile on 2007 April 28, 05:45:51
All Pescados Suck.

What?!   ;)


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: SaraMK on 2007 April 28, 05:50:37

What?!   ;)

I figured I'd help Pescado out, since he couldn't very well post it himself.  ;D


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: flowerchile on 2007 April 28, 06:26:16

What?!   ;)

I figured I'd help Pescado out, since he couldn't very well post it himself.  ;D

Thats really nice of ya  ;D
I wanna know, what he sucks tho..   ;)


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: RainbowTigress on 2007 April 28, 06:30:11
Umm, no you don't.  :P


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: rohina on 2007 April 28, 06:31:38
I wanna know, what he sucks tho..   ;)

What? Apart from the marrow out of the bones of the little children he eats for dinner?


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: flowerchile on 2007 April 28, 06:35:17
He doesn't eat the bones?  What a waste!  :D


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: jsalemi on 2007 April 28, 23:07:46
He doesn't eat the bones?  What a waste!  :D

Nah, he tosses them to his dog, White Fang. :)


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: witch on 2007 April 28, 23:08:57
White Fang, the yorkshire terrier?


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: Ness on 2007 April 28, 23:52:58
Isn't the dog just called Dog?  And his cat is called Cat?


Title: Re: Please Help!
Post by: witch on 2007 April 29, 01:05:17
Oh true, are they? Silly old bugger. ;D