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I wish Sims wouldn't mourn so long. I understand that it is very sad that your father just died, but my sim stood and sobbed for three straight sim hours, ignoring all my commands, even the macro commands. You are wasting my time, Damia Ai, and your baby is hungry, and I want you to go garden. Hop to it!

Does anyone else have trouble with sorrow-ridden sims ignoring commands?

Yes. It is a source of supreme annoyance that in my family would earn you a death by beating. And now you've motivated me to hunt it down and kill it. I find sim death reactions to be obnoxious in general, as they fail to react appropriately to the event, instead whining about it in a way that, in my family, would mean the next death would be YOURS.

Yay :D This annoys me too. I thought it was just me being a heartless cow :P

Oh, it annoys me so badly. Seriously, Damia is my second gen Legacy, and when the cats died? Didn't bat an eye. Her mother died? One sniffle, then she was fine. Her father dies? The world ends. Plus, she was blocking the door to her son's room, where he desperately needed to sleep, and she wouldn't budge! Just kept sobbing. *resists the urge to kill her*

I can't wait for the fix :D

There is hope for you yet, Emma, as pathetic as you are.

Anyway, next time you see this obnoxious activity, someone force an error and send the log.

"Oh, it annoys me so badly. Seriously, Damia is my second gen Legacy, and when the cats died? Didn't bat an eye. Her mother died? One sniffle, then she was fine. Her father dies? The world ends." [Laylei]

If you play the Legacy, don't let the sims' relations on the lot to pass 35-40 daily. That's enough for a friendly interactions. Then you will save all the whinning.
Damia had for sure high relations with her father, that's why she was so sad. It's easy to do it, occupying Damia  with chores, without permitting  her autonomous interactions with her relatives.

...I hate Legacy...:)

Ha, just by meal interactions and such, they're all 100/100. Plus, her dad was a popularity sim with a LTW of 20 best friends. Every inhouse best friend was one less person he has to call.

It irritates me that they will sob about it for ever, but if it's their spouse who dies the wants immediately roll up a new want to get married, especially Wealth sims. Jeez, at least wait until the body's cold!

But there is no body.

As soon as I saw the title of this thread I knew what it had to be about.  I was just saying this last night to Panther Pink.  His mother had died a few sim days ago (weeks ago in my time) but was still showing on the family splash screen. 

"Bring out your dead" wasn't working, so I used the Summoner from the InSim and she went away.  Panther cried for hours, constantly dropping things out of queue, and I just kept telling him, "She's been dead for days!  Get over it, already!"  And, yes, I went through the same constant sobbing when she had actually died a few days before, so it was a repeat performance.

Really, they can mourn with just a sigh as far as I'm concerned.  This crying at the top of their "lungs" gets ridiculous, though.  And not constantly.  Do one or two things, when they have a second or two that they're not busy, then they can hang their head and sigh.  That, I could handle.

Until the Resurrection was available in the game, and there wasn't the TJ's Carreer Rewards hack, I passed the same experience. It was terrible feeling.

I overcomed it, by changing in the SimPe the relations between the dead sim and his family members and best friends to 30/30. The mourn stopped almost immediately.

Now I resurrect all my elders, and wait for the hood to blow up. 400 sims, and all is well, touch wood...at least no one dies.

Which is too danm bad, really. I think it would be cool to have a police detective come to the house, have CSI swarming around the body, and actually haul away another sim if there's murder involved. And then they could have a REAL funeral, with mourners and coffins and black clothing...and THEN all the fuss would be over and there would be no more annoying mourning sims.

Or maybe I've been watching too many cop shows.

"Satellite, ma'am? Now really, how likely is that? It looks to me like someone hit your husband with a blunt object..."

Oh yeah, I'd really want to have a new 'party' option on the phone - funeral! Sims that had known the deseased could make random speeches, and... Well, I don't know, but it would be awesome! I tried to have a funeral in my poverty challenge family once, with the black buffet table and everyone dressed in black but it wasn't quite right...

There's probably too much to hope for from upcoming 'Celebrations', I'm afraid...  :P

I create a phone group of close friends specifically to invite them over when I know a sim is going to die. Kind of like a funeral. Lots of food and juice. I don't mind the mourning, really.

That would be great if the scoring was reverse of normal parties.  Make sure all your guests are misserable in order to have a great funeral!
*too much coffee*

Oh great idea!  A wake!  :D
Kinda hard to plan if it's going to be a death by plague or satellite...  Will have to wait for an old-age death.

Does asp level matter?  Even though most of my sims have very close families, they are usually gold or better when a sim dies.  I rarely see great sobbing jags for more than a few sim hours.  By morning, they're over it.

Just had another sim die, her son was crying and I forced and error on him.

Is this what you need, JM?

I've had "funeral parties" the last two times I tried to throw anniversary parties :'(  One or the other of the guests of honor drops dead in the middle of the festivities and it's still somehow a roofraiser.  Even the widow(er) remembers it as a great party!

Survey says: Interaction - Emote (0x7F92B912/0x1007).

I hate the crying over roaches... and I have no crybabies or whatever its called. They still cry about it.

What I hate about mourning is that it's invariably at the wrong time. Sims ignore the actual death completely, then hours or days later they stompinate a queue with sobbing. I wouldn't mind the Grim Reaper stompinating other actions, but no, they'll autonomously do other stupid crap like play cops n' robbers right in front of a grandfather's death scene.

Sims also seem to care more about roaches than the death of family members. Who on earth cries about bugs?

Yeah the crying over roaches has go to go. And the boo hooing over a death is totally annoying also the wake up in the middle of the night when they reach full sleep bar is also annoying. Aggh!

Oh God yes, I'd love to be able to have funerals.  Weddings and funerals, best family day out for anyone, especially if there's a fight - free food and entertainment.  Do you know, when the game was first released, there was a publicity pic with a family gathered round a hump in the ground with a headstone.  Turned out to be lie - bastard Maxis and their staged pictures, I really got my hopes up about that.  I can manage fights at the weddings but I'd love to be able to get the widow and his mistress slugging it out over the open grave.

I think that game extremely needs some hacks as cryforall(when accident pee for ex.} and mournenabled (on cemetery lots)for visitors.Let's townies suffering too!  :'(

Disgusting but true, roaches make me cry. My simmies have user-directed OCD because of this. Even simulated roaches give me the creeps. I grew up in Detroit and my family inadvertently rented a house that had a problem. As soon as we moved in, we were looking for somewhere else to be. The Orkin man was our best friend for months. So when they cry about the roaches, I understand. Crying about the dead, who aren't schlepping around their houses and crunching underfoot at 3:00AM? GTFOI!

New Less Whiny reduces the whining so that it will not pile up in queue and turn into an extended chain of whine and moan actions.

I lived in New York City, in an old apartment building. We kept the place spotless, and there were still roaches crawling up through the sink. I now live in Florida, where there are roaches outside. I have never been even remotely tempted to cry because of the existence of some bug in my vicinity, and no, I still don't understand it at all, nor do I think it's realistic, even if there are a few people in the world who exhibit this strange behavior.

I have a bit of a phobia of cockroaches, so I understand the fear part of it.  I avoid them as much as humanly possible, if there's one of the household arachnophobes around I'll make them kill it while I run into the other room (they owe me for all the spiders I kill for them) and if there isn't then I'll beat it to death myself, THEN run away.  I screech and flail around with a shoe like a big idiot, but I don't cry about it.  Particularly once I've killed it, which is what bugs me about the sims.  I understand being upset when they're right in front of you, but why sob about it once they're dead?  Be happy, your enemy is vanquished!

I would imagine that since the normal range of human reactions to roaches ranges from disgust to terror, most people are either busy killing or it, or fleeing in terror, to cry about it, particularly after the fact.

Cryng about roaches should only happen if you accidentally ingest them.

I think that would be vomiting about roaches.

"A person who is allergic to consuming shellfish is also likely to have an allergy to eating cockroaches."

One of the fine bits of knowledge brought to us by Fear Factor :P

For the love of pixies... who the...?  I always knew Fear Factor was a whacked show.  What happened... some poor schmuck on the show had to eat some, and as a result they learned about this oh so obscure yet frighteningly clear connection between the two critters in terms of food allergies?

From Chef Alton Brown of Food Network's Good Eats lobster and cockroaches are cousins on the classification of living things chart, they share kingdom, phylum and class. Schmexy, right? Eew!

Must remember to do this! It will be awesome!

Read it up here: http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/spotlighthealth/2004-01-16-fear-factor_x.htm

"The cockroaches are fed cornmeal, not trash. The Madagascar hissing cockroach is actually one of the cleaner insects out there. It doesn't bite and isn't toxic."

It's all very interesting, but I still prefer my early May snails dish ;D

Can't wait to see my simself kick kewian to death at her own funeral party.

Naturally. And Kewhale thinks death will save her from you...nuh-uh. I'm gonna specially code your ghosts so that your ghost pummels Kewhale's ghost!

Whoa, I raised Madagascar cockroaches when I was at University, I didn't know they eat cornmeal. Ours were fond of food for goldfish.
In any case, if you raise the insects yourself, or if you consider only vegetarian species, they are for sure one of the healtier and most nutritive food available.
And that comparison between lobster and insects is true: they taste like scamps minus the fish smell.

I'd be an extremely boring contestant, seeing as nothing I've heard of fazes me in the slightest. I mean, come on? Bugs? I eat those from a bucket like popcorn. Deer spleen? I'd probably take offense they burned it. I prefer 'em raw.

Could you conceivably make the ghosts do other things? I always thought ghosts were pretty boring.

Speaking of ghosts, has anyone noticed that they occasionally change into outerwear in Seasons?  Like they're gonna get cold, eh?

I've also had one (Pascal Curious I think) change into his swimming costume just so he could haunt one of his grandchildren in the pool.

You wish,UglyButt.

OMG, did you read the damn thread? Yes, I wish, and Pescado has promised that my wish is his command in this instance.

Awwww, feel the luuurve  :D

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/gali123/serenade-1.jpg)

I'm feelin' it aussieone..but now, I feel kinda nauseous..  ;)

Ditto. :-X

*flowerchile calls room service to bring up 2 buckets

Death to all Galis.

Hmm, you know, I just had this thought. Do you think an appropriate torture for Gali would be to turn her into a zombie, melt her on the Uni surgery machine, and then DRESS HER IN CARLA NIVEN?!?

With no makeup, brown hair and glasses.

Nobody deserves Carla Niven.

 ;D ;D ;D
No matter what you will do with my poor sim puppet - I won, showing everyone, that you hate to be "point and laugh" stock...but don't care to point and laugh at others.

That's the ultimate Pescado's justice...

Alright Gali... now that is real torture there. Good job.. *mashes thanks button many times*

That he doesn't like to point and laugh at others? What? You're missing a word or three.

I agree with witch, except I think you should give gali gray hair.

Short, boyishly-cut grey hair. And no makeup.

I don't think I deserve any torture - I only gave a materialization to the sentence: "Pescado has promised that my wish is his command in this instance."

Boy, that was a bombastic declaration. :P





 

And why exactly is it that you find the idea of my simself killing kewian to be romantic?

Not the killing of Kewian - not at all.

But when someone says: "my wish is his command", he declares that he rules the other person, and can manipulate him to do whatever he wants. That's very romantic, isn't it?

Comment: as I know JMP, nobody's wish is his command - not even Blue's...who is his first and last "love".  :P

You've never seen Labyrinth, have you?

You have the most warped ideas about romantic relationships. No, manipulating people is not romantic.

I wanna know why Bunker Boy knows about womens fashion labels .....  

Because of the Pirate (http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/viewtopic.php?t=5) forum.  ::)

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Insane curiosity has lead me to find out what a Carla Nevins was. I'll take the cockroaches.

Yeah, but, but, Bowie, ya know? I LOVE the labyrinth, though I would'a tossed the kid and lived in the Escher castle with Bowie.
*drools*

One of my mates, who was once a working girl, said she had Bowie once. There were four bodyguards in the room whilst he was bonking. (Not watching, just sitting). Weird, she said. Kinda hard to perform, I would have thought.

Add brown eyes to the list of SimGali tortures. ;) (Also see her SimMe thread.)

Yes, I thought of brown eyes after I posted - doesn't Gali always make green eyes? Perhaps alien eyes...

I've heard similar stories. Apparently he's not very self conscious.

He's probably had bodyguards for 30 years, I'd guess you have to get used to them at some point.

He's super-sexy, but any relationship where the guy says "fear me, love me, do as I say" is one which I would run from screaming, probably changing my name and moving to another state. Now, if he gave the kid back and dropped the whole bossing me around schtick, we could talk.

Speaking of Bowie, I saw an interview with him in which he talked about how hard it was for him to come out as completely straight. He'd been part of the whole 70's bisexual New Wave thing, then realized later that no, he really only liked to boink women.

Which just goes to prove the point that sexuality is a continuum. My default setting is het but I have fallen for two special women during my life and merely had to move out of my comfort zone a little. It was about them and not about binary rigidity. I don't believe people are either gay or not gay, they're somewhere in between - sure there are some folks on each end of the line - but as I picture it like a bell curve, there's a hell of a lot of people somewhere in the middle. Opportunities arise, some people are open to them, some are not.

ETA:
Yeah, yeah, I know. It's that bad boy thang.

Maybe it's more true about women?

My experience is similar to yours, but I found that emotional intimacy was a much bigger factor in my attraction to my two special women.  I daresay if not for that, we'd never have had sex at all.

However, with men I've had some quite excellent bonks with ones I didn't care to know any better than that.  :D

What I'm suggesting is that purely physical attraction may be more binary, but that other forms of intimacy may draw us to become sexually expressive with individuals who aren't as physically compelling to us.

I agree about sexuality being a continuum. I'm waaaaay on the hetero side; I have kissed a girl, but found it completely pointless and dull.

You expressed the ideas way more eloquently than I. I agree, emotional intimacy is a pre-requisite to a relationship with a woman whereas a one-off bonk tended to be male. (I say that in the past tense deliberately, I've been happily celibate for the last few years).

Maybe you just didn't kiss the right girl Neriana?

I've never been attracted to any girl, so I don't see the point of kissing one. There have always been plenty of guys to kiss ;D.

Oddly though, given that I'm het, I still look at women more than men, women dress more interestingly generally, do more with colour and style. Probably some sort of social conditioning. Sigh.

What's under the tombstones, then?  ??? :p