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I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread devoted to the plant sims in seasons, since the questions and discussion about them, so far, is scattered in a number of places.

Anyway, I recently noticed today that, like the servos, spawned plant babies are born with whatever skill points their parent sim has... along with pointy ears.

So it seemed to me that, in terms of game strategy, it would be best to have a sim max out skill points, become a plant sim, then spawn a bunch of toddlers with maxed out skills who then cure themselves of "plantsimism" becoming adults. Assuming a sim born as a plant CAN be cured... and that you don't mind pointy ears.

....that would depend on whether you like being stuck with 4 want slots only. Because plantsims go directly to adults and are not allowed into Uni as a result, and their skintone may not be YA-enabled to boot, you'll be stuck with the horribleness of 4/1. Is it worth it?

Not if you have the lot debugger.  :D

This is my first post, but I feel the need to say, you can use Christianlov's Fake Diploma hack. Gives a degree of your choice and extra want slots and locks. Very useful for Adults made in CAS if you have Uni...or not. I send all my teens there, but love being able to have more than four slots and one lock...not to mention I can have an Ecological Guru sim that's CAS made.

I have no interest in Plant sims til they have cc default eyes and skin. I hear lipstick won't work on them either. I got jfade's hack to prevent the Maxis horror.

I find the plantsim skin rather pretty, actually. When you put them in underwear you can see that the leaves are a hidden outfit, not part of the skin, and they have vines tattooed on their skin, it sort of matches Enyala's fantasy skins.

That may be, I've seen pics, but the eyes and facial features of the skin are not my mug of beer. Once I can get defaults, I'd love to try them out.

I would love it if someone made some default replacements using Enayla's Fantasy Pixie skintones.

Default Plant Replacements - Using Enayla's Pixie skintones (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=222329)

Well, I must've missed that when I was playing catch up.  :D

I thought for a second you were being sarcastic, having almost typed the thread title there word for word.  :P

Nope, I obviously was cruising through MTS2 too quickly when I got Seasons. I knew someone would eventually make one, as anything she makes gets immediately made into defaults by SOMEONE. I just didn't look hard enough.

Thanks for that link gynarchy. I wasn't looking yet. Now, do my default eyes work with Plant sims?? If so, I'll have to have some Romance plant sims.  ;D

The implication here is that you're not CHEATING. The lot debugger option was mostly made so you could save your sims that existed pre-Uni, preventing them from becoming garbage.

Well, sure, you could CHEAT, but Plantsims are a post-Uni feature, much like Robots. Robots are similarly SOL here, but hey, they're robots, robots were never known for a complex set of goals.

Well, aren't some of your hacks, cheating? What constitutes cheating?

And screw the stupid robots, real robots don't have emotions...unless they are Data in STNG. So that we can agree on.

Not unless you misuse them. They're mostly for fixing bugs and stupid behaviors. Not for giving you free lunches. In fact, our work is very anti-free lunch.

I do love your anti-free lunch. But, presetntly I'm having a problem with my fiance. He thinks any hacks are cheating and that, therefore, I'm a wuss. I try to explain, but he won't listen. His retoric is tainting my opinons. And he's the one that got me hooked on Sims1

Laugh at him when his game crashes and burns. These aren't hacks for cheating, these are third-party patches.

I will, if he ever plays again. He's into SC4.

So do Plant sims have LTW?

What about finding a way to cure the *toddler* of Plantsimism?  Someone more awesome than myself could create a hack allowing a "give [toddler name] Planticillin-C (or whatever it's called)" interaction.  It's more realistic than the way Maxis has it anyway - why wouldn't a parent be allowed to feed the cure to their toddler? 

Just a thought.

Playing Uni is long and boring, even with TJ's adjuster to speed things along. I can make them do all they need to get an A+ in 1 day, why suffer through 3 days each for 8 semesters? Honestly, if it weren't for the objects, I'd have uninstalled Uni long ago. I do like the extra want slots and locks, though, so I upgrade them. Games are supposed to be FUN, after all.  ;) Uni is just a chore.

Aye, "converted" Sims keep their pre-plant aspiration and LTW. I haven't grown any spawns up yet, but I'd imagine when they turn into adults you pick their apiration and turn ons/offs like you would a newly transitioned teen.

I thought I'd check out the greenman house, so I was playing rose and noticed right away she had a FEAR of having a baby.....she's a family asperation sim, lol....weird

Brandi Broke rolled the same fear in my game, which is really weird. She's a bit older now, though, so I figured it was just a middle age thing.

I've seen family sims that have both the want for a baby and fear of having a baby at the same time.  That's one confused sim...  ::)

Plant sims do have life time wants... they seem to be normal sims in regards to everything but their different motives. I grew up the toddler in the greenman house and made her a knowledge sim--she has a career LTW.

Polonius, I agree with you about curing the toddlers. It would make a lot of sense, and avoid the problem with skipping uni. You'd think a parent would want to allow their toddler to have a childhood.

My Rose just had twins and now wants 10 more! Daisy, the daughter grew up and her LTW is to Max 7 Skills, but she doesn't roll the wants to increase the skill levels like other Knowledge Sims do. She wants pets, bird cages, to go fishing, anything except to gain more skills. I said the heck with you and have her skillinating her brains out. I hope her LTW is realized so she can be Platinum but I have my doubts. :-\

Can you use the "give" interaction with the cure? I haven't played plant sims yet, just a thought. Maybe then it could be in their inventory and either the toddler can drink it or someone could make a hack, use the bottle animations maybe. It would be sad to think plant sim babies could never go to Uni....

What hack?

I've use Enayla's default plant sim replacements. The only thing is that it makes Rose's eyes blue, without the default skin they are brown.

I don't think you can use the give interaction with toddlers  :-\

I've had the same problem with Daisy. She rolled knowledge sim wants just fine, until I moved her out. Now it seems to be a mix of money and popularity wants, along with some generic seasons wants. But I think it might have more to do with Daisy being corrupted, because I've heard of this happening with other knowledge sims before...

I made Daisy a Fortune sim, and she seemed like a normal Fortune sim in her Wants.

I'm also using those jfade hacks. http://www.djssims.com/index.php

I dunno about having a CHILDHOOD, as it's pretty annoying, but an edumacation might be nice.

I agree; I think the vine and leaf tatoos are really pretty.  I was surprised when people wanted to replace that with plain, solid green.

I find plantsims tiring to play because they never go to sleep!  I had no idea that I needed the momentary respite while my sims slept, but it looks as if I do.  Sure, I could pause the game, but I like having a down period while my sims are peacefully sleeping and I'm thinking about what to have them do the next day.  There's more of a "God's watching over you" feeling if I think about them while they sleep, as opposed to when I'm pausing the game. :-)

I'm surprised that other sims have no reaction when someone changes into a plantsim.  I appreciate their not caring about race or sexual orientation, but they do notice things like stinky sims; you'd think a wife would notice (not necessarily in a negative way, but *notice*) that her husband had turned green and sprouted leaves.  When my guy turned into a plant sim, his wife came home from work and chatted as usual.  About tennis.  You'd think she'd at least say, "Hey, what happened to you while I was at work?!" :-)

Someone asked if a sim who was born/spawned as a plant sim can be cured.  Yup.  My guy spawned a daughter, and I had her drink the potion when she grew up.  I made her a Knowledge sim, partly because I play them the most, anyway, and partly because I thought a Knowledge sim could handle the trauma of changing races/species/whatever better than other sims. :-)

Knowledge sims like becoming strange, not so fond of becoming unstrange. You should make them something else to deplant them. De-planting a former plantbaby is unrecommended because they'd still not be able to go to college and lose out on the advantages of plantism. The best of both worlds would be to become a plant after being a normal sim, so you can have 6/2 *AND* be a plant.

It's not easy being green!

I wonder if it is at all possible to make the Plant Sims age normally (all age stages). I realize there is no skintone for the other ages, but they're basically still regular sims, so I don't see why not.

What kind of loser decided to make it so they age straight to adult?

Actually, they do go to sleep. :o You can send them to bed like any other Sim...the difference is the fact that they don't need sleep.

*gasp* Pescado, is that a hint that you'll take me up on my idea in some form or another?  I'd be EVAH so grateful, sah...

Really? I tried to put that toddler in her crib for awhile and she starting screaming immediately and didn't stop quickly (I took her out so dunno when she would have stopped, but it didn't look like she'd sleep).

I don't like that they don't sleep or that they only have 3 needs. Too easy. I do like the skin, cept'nfor the toddlers hat. For some reason that little daisy thing bugs me and it looks funny in my game. I wish I could give her a different hairstyle at least.

I thought I saw in the comments at InSIM that one of Squinge's hacks causes plant Sims to go through all the regular ages (with normal skins for the kids and teens.)  Ummm, the one for having YA's outside of University, I think it was.  Maybe you could pick that apart and figure out how it's done...

There would need to be some other hack besides just adding some green skin, because I don't think children could stay inside the school (and away from the shower!) all day.  The teens have a shorter school day, so I suppose they *might* be able to make it.  It stil seems like it would be a pretty big stress, though. 

I figure this is why Plantsims age directly from toddler to adult -- because they'd die if you sent them to schooll!

The *real* reason is they were too lazy to come up with children's and teen's outfits (3 more meshes to mesh).

They can, its not difficult at all, the water need decays in the same speed as hygiene, which is really slow. the Sun decays as slow as normal energy, even during the night.
they can go anywhere and do anything without worry much.
the real reason as the earlier poster said, was probably because they didn't have enough time to make all the mesh for different ages.

Rose in my game has green eyes.  Her DNA is for green eyes.  I don't use any default plant sim replacements.  When I tried curing her of plantsimism to see what she looked like as a normal sim, she has S4 skin, brown hair, and green eyes, which is very striking, but I like her better as a plantsim.  So I didn't save.

Rose has green eyes in my hood and I am using Enayla's default plant skintone replacements.


edit - pixie nymph and glory to be precise

And cheating is bad,, how??  Its just taking advantage of the available features on the debugger.  How is this cheating? :P

Hmm.  Your plant sims must be different from mine.  I noticed that when my normal sim went to work, the plant sim would have passed out if I hadn't watered him while she was gone.

I don't mind that the plant sims only have two life stages, makes it more alien to my way of thinking. I also like the Maxis plant skins, they're beautifully designed. I think the Enayla skins are awful and make sims look shiny and ill.

I decided to play around last night and used the age sims cheat to age Daisy Greenman down to a child after she'd transitioned to adult. It was late, though, so I closed down the game while she was at school. She doesn't have the plant skin, obviously, and she's missing the age meter, but if you hover where it should be, it tells you how many days are left until transition.  Her needs are still that of a plant sim and her wants/other actions are that of a child.  I got Rose a real job before that, and she made it fine through the workday, even while pregnant.

ETA: School must hold classes in a greenhouse or with the sunlamps.  ;) She came home from school with her Sunlight still on 100% Her Water only down maybe 25%, and Love down a smidge. And the game/lot hasn't exploded.

I like Plantsims pretty much as they are, though I haven't made one of my own yet (I'm working in getting Puck in Veronaville to plantify).  I think the lack of child and teen Plantsims actually makes sense from a game balance standpoint--if you park them under a sun lamp, they can train or perform just about any task indefinitely (provided they take occasional breaks to shower).  I've currently got Daisy Greenman working in the medical field, carrying on a romance, and still spending ~12 hours a day making robots.  If they had three more age groups in which to skill up, plus the career boost from graduating college, there'd be no reason to have anything but Plantsims in your neighborhood.

However, I wish they had more hairstyles than just the one.

I love the plant sims.  I also have Enayla's defalt skin and I love it.  I chose the lightest skin--that was before I knew that they all had dark skin.  I am on my fifth generation spawned from Rose and I can tell you one thing--They are now born with full skill points.  It is funny cause the tots do not need to learn, so they spend there time happily splashing in the toilet puddle in the bathroom.  I put a heat lamp in there and I periodically send in sims to talk and play with them.  Never had easier tots than that.  They spend all their free time(when everyone is in bed) tending the garden-talking to the plants--I also have heat lamps in greenhouse.  They rarly need water cause the sprinklers spritz them.  They have opened up a produce store since they have so much produce.  One thing though, one of the plant sims took a job in gaming and when he reached the top of the career, he worked at night.  He left every day with full sunlight,and every night he came home ready to collapse.  It would take him all night to recover.  I don't know if it is job specific problem or it was because the job was at night.  I had him quit and get a daytime job and that doesn't happen anymore.  It also doesn't seem that pregnant plant sims get any depletion due to pregnancy--not that I have noticed.

How do you sell the produce? Do you sell the items piece by piece or can you sell them in bulk?

Seems like you could cure Daisy somehow and then let her transition to teenhood. (Is there no way to cure toddlers?) Then re-PlantSim her later, if desired.

I was wondering if produce can be placed on OFB shelves. Has anyone tried it?

Here's a discussion of that on N99 and a picture of some produce shelves that look a bit better:

http://p218.ezboard.com/fstarlightsimsfrm51.showMessage?topicID=14061.topic

and this is where the shelves came from (in case you don't do N99 or ezboards) with a different pic:

http://www.pc-sims.com/smb/showthread.php?t=4655&highlight=vegetables

Hopefully that helps some.

Plant sims do seem extremely powerful, since they can be apparently sustained completely externally: A combination of snapdragons and sun lamps can keep them running indefinitely. Perhaps their lack of want slots is a balancing factor. They are even stronger than robots, which also are 4/1 limited, because robots must stop to recharge power, while plantsims do not.

Thanks, sagana. I don't actually have Seasons yet, but factors like these will help me decide if I want to buy it.

You probably do want it, I'd think - it's a really good EP. Kinda hard to explain why because I don't like plantsims, and the gardening doesn't work the way I want it to, and I'm not all that big on spending lots of time building snowmen or stuff (I'm sure I'll get bored with it quickly enough) and some people are having some pretty nasty bug-type things or problems, but just having the seasons available (some of my hoods won't have all of them) makes it... more... well, atmospheric.

One noticable difference is though, that the plantsims age and die, unlike the robots....

Yeah, I've pretty much decided that I want Seasons *eventually* but I'm waiting until more hacks, bugfixes, etc are available (and possibly a patch or two) before I take the plunge, so to speak. After all the problems I've experienced with Pets, I'm being very cautious now.

I wasn't one of the people who was begging for weather. I didn't even know if I would like it. But, surprisingly, Seasons is my favorite expansion. It makes the game come alive. Things change, in a constant pattern of existence, the ebb and flow of life. You get immersed in a whole virtual environment, while you play. It seems so much more satisfying, relaxing, enjoyable.

Yesterday, while my Sim grilled some freshly caught fish on his indoor castle BBQ, I could hear a dog barking outside. The cat meowed, and then curled up for a nap. The fireplace glowed, and I could hear the rain outside. As my Sim sat down to eat, I realized I was content. No matter what things are like IRL, in this little world everything has finally "come together" and it is wonderful. It feels like Sims 2 is complete, now. Seasons did that, for me.

I have found this to be exactly true. I've PLAYED the sims a lot more since getting Seasons than the previous 6 months probably. Usually I PLAY for about an hour, then build a house for 3 weeks, then play for an hour, etc. Since getting Seasons I've played one of the Maxis sims, MacGregor, almost to death (literally). His plantsim daughter is almost an elder. I've also started a new Legacy and played that over an entire "year."

1) For those of you who have raised plant sim children outside of the Greenman family, did there seem to be any other screwiness involved with them, especially in terms of goals? What about when curing the plant spawn?

2) Since the plant children are born with pointy ears, it seems to be confirmed that they are not clones, but genetically related to an unknown "pollinator" NPC. Has anyone familiar with SimPE been able to isolate it? And what are its characteristics (other than pointy ears and ugly). It seems relevent as to whether it can ultimately be replaced by a hack with a more attractive pollinator NPC, as with the alien pollination technician.

3) What do you all think of the "Plants Love Me" behaviour? So far, I can't stand it, but it hasn't yet stomped any queues in my game and so far seems to be a harmless idle behavior, if annoying.

4) I agree about the atmosphere, so far I think I like this expansion as much or more than Nightlife. It HAS made the game much more relaxing and enjoyable, and the gameplay FEELS as though it has been much expanded, even though if you think about it the changes aren't that extensive. I really love the gardening and fishing, even if they are a little troublesome, and I can see how well this EP fits with OFB.

I'd love a replacement. Rose spawned another plant baby in my game, her face is long and narrow with very close-together eyes. Daisy looks fairly normal when she ages to adult, but the second baby looked weird. A more attractive "pollinator" NPC would be welcome.

I have the latest everything from maty and I still have troubles with my plant sims. I had the farmer guy (with kilt, MacSomething I beliece (Arhan in french) bought a community lot and set up a farm.
He hired Rose Greenman as an employee. She can tend the garden just fine (thanks to macrostatics/BRY) but she keeps complaining about her hunger (?) and her mood slowly goes in the red during the day, even if the talks to the plants (love at max), is watered by the sprinklers (water at max). Her Sun need does not move between her arrival and the moment I dismiss her because she drops everything, complaining of hunger and being in red mood....
Any idea ?

edit : I did not play her on her lot since adding back my hacks. I will do that later today and report back.

I don't have much experience in SimPE outside of the basics, but there is an "ideal plantsim" NPC now in each of the neighborhood files and from his placeholder image he's pretty uggo. He has a long and narrow face and a long skinny nose. I would imagine that someone with the know-how would be able to create a replacement.

The plant sims are normal when played on the home lot. I only have the problem when playing the owned community lot they work for. No errors, but they complain for motives they don't have and their mood is red even if the 3 motives are fully green.
The plant sim is a manager if that makes a difference.

I had a sim spawn a plantsim (not all that great-looking) have him grow up and spawn another plant-sim (fairly decent looking if I say so myself).
I cured them both and they are still not bad looking, although it seems that talking to regular sims about their plantsim experience seems to not impress other sims... :D

OMG! That's just beautiful..... *sobs*

;)

Who's promoting my mod? Oh, there...

Yep, my mod has been promoted on this site. Now get to downloading it! (I uploaded it BEFORE the uploads were turned off. It's the first seasons required download on the site. Maybe the first seasons required download on the interweb...)

I think there is a difference between mentioning that something exists and "promoting" it. Get over yourself.

So I tried without any hacks, and I still have trouble with the plant sims when they are employed on an owned community lot. Their sun need does not decay, does not go up when outside in the sun. The love and water needs seem to work ok, but the plant sim employee will complain about needs she does not have (hunger, comfort, bladder and energy). Her mood goes in the red while the 3 needs are green.
could someone more awesome than me look into this problem, that seems to be a maxis problem (bad compatibility between plant sims and OFB ?)
I have all EP and SP.
Thanks,
Pioupiou.

I think Uni is fun because I like harrasing the dormies and make them ugly with christianlov's clothing rack. :P ;D :D ;) :)

is there anyway that there would be a replacement for the sim that makes the plant sims via spawn baby as having digging up in one of the neighborhoods (with simPE QA version)
I don't like this spork like plant sim and maxis/EA nicked named it the IDEAL plant sim

I wonder if it can be done like the default alien replacements? I have a replacement pollination technician.

Not all plant sims have pointed ears.  I have some with normal ears also.  It seems to be a chance thing to get the pointed ears. 

I would love to see some other plant sim outfits.  It is hard to tell them apart when you have a group of them.  I know you can change their outfit, but it reverts back to the plant sim outfit after getting their water refreshed.

I haven't had that happen. By change their outfit, do you mean you just changed them out of everyday in swimwear or something? In which case, they would go back to everyday after taking a shower.

I have had no trouble changing the everyday outfit for my plant sims to something else, and it has not reverted.

Here's something I haven't been game to try yet: Elder Plantsims still have the option to spawn off a little plant-toddler. But the woman already wants six grandkids, so it's not going to happen. ::) Maybe in another household, some time, way off in the future... Question is, is this a good idea?

It's not *that* likely everyone on the lot will die before the toddler hits adult, even if 'everyone on the lot' are all elders. And if they do, that just means there'll be a Plantsim toddler in the adoption pool...

I'd just go for it NVA, it's a remarkably bug-free EP and it is the best EP so far as far as I am concerned.

I see no reason why having plantbabies in the adoption pool is harmful in any way, since the game explicitly supports the case where a plantsim toddler can be taken away for neglect, as well as for standard death cases. At the same time, the benefits are similarly dubious, other than that a sim adopting a toddler will get something other than what he may have expected...

Heh.  "Would you consider adopting a 'special needs' child...?"

Isn't it a rather un-Amberly hour for you to be around?

Actually, I'm usually lurking about for pretty much exactly an hour in the mornings, while the Amberspawn gets ready for school and heads out.  I don't usually bother to sign onto IRC, though.

I could think of a few Sims who wouldn't mind adopting a plantsim. Family/Knowledge couples most likely. Or non-Family couples who want to skip the whole childhood/teen/college bit. Point was, I couldn't see a drawback.

I just thought it interesting that elder plantsims can still reproduce.

I'm still wondeing about changing plantsim clothing.  I know I can buy them new clothes, but I kinda like the plant-ish feel to the default plantsim clothing.  Has anyone seen more plantsim clothing anywhere.  I found some on MTS2, but they really weren't suitable for everyday wear; more like lingerie type stuff.  I made Rose Greenman spawn 5 plantbabies and trying to tell them all apart is driving me nuts! (She has the 'have 10 children' want). I am thoroughly un-awesome and have neither the talent or patience to make my own plantsim clothing.

PlantSims can breed like normal sims, if you want to go that route. I gave her another plant kid, another girl, and in the end I just stuck make-up on both her daughters, different on each. (Rose stays 'natural' in my game) I also only have Rose in the 'Plantsim' outfit, to help tell them apart. If you don't want them to be too un-plantlike, I think there are some green eyeshadows and green lipstick, for makeup...

Although this has nothing to do with Plantsims, I can answer this question.  I decided to have a poor farm family (aptly named Farmer) whose only method of earning cash is selling harvested fruit.  The fruit was placed easily on the OFB shelves and the natives snatched it all up in no time.  However... despite the fact that the Sim had fruit in her inventory, the game saw the inventory as empty so was unable to use any of the "restock" commands - either ingame or Pescado's Macrotastics.  *sigh*

That's strange, I had no problems restocking.

maybe you need the same quality ? I also had no problem restocking fruit, vegetables and fishes.

For some reason, lipstick doesn't seem to work on my female plantsims. I can give them custom eyeshadow/liner and blush without a problem, but her lips stay unchanged no matter what lipstick I stick on it, except for maxis crap. (oh joy).

Anyone else have this problem?

Its beacause the plant skintone is more like an overlay, like the vamp tone, sort of. You can make lipstick show but you would have to use bodyshop and make lipstick but saving it as Blush. The blush layer seems to be on top of the plant tone.

There's some plant sims stuff here:

http://p218.ezboard.com/fstarlightsimsfrm77.showMessage?topicID=391.topic

Check out the other threads because there's several that have set stuff in them.

This is a known artifact produced by the fact that all custom lipsticks cloned pre-Seasons treat themselves as layer 0. Naturally, this means it's the lowest layer and gets stomped by everything. The Vampire/Werewolf fixes may partially address this issue, but there's no real "clean" solution other than to manually fix the layering in SimPE.

Rose is currenlt pregnant with twins from Jason and has already had 2 babies by him.  It is easier to have her spawn plantbabies because they are generally maintenence free, but they all freaking look the same.  Are plantbaby spawn always the same gender as the parent?  I am thinking of having Jason abducted after he reaches the top of his career (almost there).  Green babies all around!

Thanks sagana, unfortunately I am not a member of N99.  I have applied several times and never gotten a respons.  I will try again though.

Of four spawned Plantsims, I've gotten: Rose's daughter. Rose's husband's daughter. (Made him a plantsim too) And then those daughters had a daughter and a son respectively. So I think gender is as random as any birth.

Do you have an ezboard membership? You hafta  have that first and I always forget because I've had one for what feels like freakin' ever :)

BetsyJane: http://www.parsimonious.org/fashion2/lingerie/5.shtml

Parsimonious has a lot of stuff that would be good for plant sims besides that as well.

Am I the only one having this problem with plant sims as employee ??

here some screenshots to illustrate :

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/pioupiou1717/Plantsim.jpg)

Even if her needs are almost maxed, her mood is red

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/pioupiou1717/snapshot_126372ae_73103c83.jpg)

it is a close up of the plant sim head (she's under an apple tree so I had to get really close) she is complaining about hunger....

I have had an ezboard membership for quite some time.  Every time I apply for membership to n99 I never get a response.   Meh.

Thanks for the parsimonious link Neriana, I will check it out.

This is it exactly. Plus I can now have families that farm and fish exclusively and they don't *have* to work. And I am starting to want a homeschool hack because school interferes with all the fun stuff they can do even more than ever - fishing and gardening and turning blue and freezing. Okay, well, maybe not that last part, but you get the point.  :D

Oooo, summer vacation!  No summer vacation from school in Seasons?  If not, this should go into the hacks-I'm-begging-for thread.

Wow, hadn't even thought of that, but yes it should!

Yeah, but then some kids would barely go to school at all.  I prefer having them out of the house for the day.  It's bad enough they're home at the weekend.

Edit:
In fact, just doing some sums: without modding anything (like age lengths and season lengths)-

If you have
1. a toddler age-transition on a Friday evening
2. summer starts (for 5 days) on the Monday
3. child therefore has summer vacation starting Monday
4. autumn will arrive the following Saturday when the child is not at school
5. the child will have aged to teen on the Friday anyway

Which means the sim will never go to school as a child.  In fact, any child who aged to child at the weekend would not go to school as a child with a summer vacation mod providing the summer started on the Monday.  I'd guess you wouldn't be able to give them just a few days off during summer unless you maybe used the coding which allows snow days?

Here's a question, can NPCs become PlantSims? I noticed my gardener spraying my plants... Should I fire and stop hiring gardeners, or can they spray without consequence?

Also, can Servos become PlantSims, and is this a BadThing?

Why not just pop in a "no school anytime" mod, and pretend you are homeschooling. It would work for summer vacation, also, but might be a hastle to have to restart (after taking it out and putting it back in, seasonally).

The mod I have is from Carrigon, who is now over at Simlogical (Inge's revived site), but you have to register to see her stuff, otherwise she's invisible. Carrigon's no school mod for Pets is officially verified as working in Seasons.

I agree it would be nice to have a mod that automatically excused the kids for the summer, but I don't know how that could be implemented. I'm not sure it would be possible to season-link it. (And some people think summer vacation is unnecessary coddling of children -- at least those who are no longer required to go out into the field to work on crops from dawn to dusk, which is why schools used to be closed for the summer.)

Not to mention then you have those accursed little monsters running around underfoot, and I'm like, "Shouldn't you be in school?"

Hmm, I see your point.  Would it perhaps be possible to have a mod that would give them say, one weekday off in the middle of the summer?  Or of each season, for that matter--that way you'd also have Spring break, Christmas vacation and, I dunno, Halloween or something.

Well, pretty much all toddlers transition on a Friday evening in my game, simply because this is the optimal time. You get the weekend to hammer skills. And frankly, by the time they max out well before the weekend ends, I'd much rather send them to school because there's not much else to do! Begone, imps!

As I said, it seems to me the most promising thing would be the coding that allows for snow days, though you'd want to fix it so they definately got the day off - one per season might be fun.

Yes, they can. Do you care? Are gardeners good for anything else? I didn't think so.

So it won't break my game, or anything? Alright then. Glad I don't have to stop hiring gardeners. :)

That business lot problem with the plant sim is weird. Has anyone else been able to replicate it? I don't have OFB installed at the moment so I can't test this personally, but I wonder if this is only one person, or a problem for everyone?

I had the same plant person worker problem when one of my lots hired Rose Sim. :-/ I can't remember if I tried a maxmotives to fix it or just sent her home, though.

Maybe someone should spawn a plantsim kid, age it artifically, and send it to work to test whether it is all plantsims or just Rose that causes a problem.

Seems the latest pets patch released on sunday fixes an issue that plantsims had with vampirism. Mostly their face texture did not change... and I heard it also fixed issues of some custom skintones (or regular skintones) with the curse of being a werewolf and their face did not change...

Anyways I did make a plantsim toddler and aged it artifically, and sent it to a business to work by hiring them. I got the issue of them being hungry and refusing to work... later I'll 'artifically' make a adult a plant (by using boolprop on plants to spawn insane amounts of bugs) to see if the same thing occurs.

Is it normal that my adult plantsim has no LTW?

I looked earlier in the thread, and couldn't find an answer.

Not normal, Mine has one.

I've had sims not roll up a new LTW after satisfying a LTW.  Has your plantsim already satisfied a LTW?

There's a minor bug which causes freshly-aged sims not to have an LTW until their next want reroll. Sims may also have locked themselves out of all possible LTWs by doing them already or otherwise being ineligible, but your case is probably the former.

She's newly grown, so I'll try re-rolling her wants.  Thanks

Has anyone seen the Ideal Plantsim wandering around his/her lot? A friend of mine took this picture when she noticed that strange guy appearing on her lot:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/Sandopic/Sims/Bianca%20Jester/Bines_Geist_001.jpg)

In the picture he looks human, but when he steps into the sunlight he turns green and looks like the Plantsim he's supposed to be.

Is this a bug or a feature? She swears she hasn't been messing around with cheats ... 8)

That's weird, selzi. Could you possibly get a screenshot of him in the sunlight?

That seems to be a layering issue, which vampwerefixes should fix by lowering the plantskin down to the lowest level.