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Title: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: lindaetterlee on 2007 March 02, 13:00:03
My greenhouses environment score is neg reg. I've tried everything. Even when the plants are perfect there is no change. moved the compost out. Changed and room up still nothing. Anyone else having this problem.


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: LFox on 2007 March 02, 13:24:39
My greenhouses environment score is neg reg. I've tried everything. Even when the plants are perfect there is no change. moved the compost out. Changed and room up still nothing. Anyone else having this problem.

Yeah no idea why the enviroment is so bad when the plants are all perfect.  I just ignore it though since enviroment score in a greenhouse really doesn't matter unless your sim plans to spend all day in there.

Does the enviroment score bottom out if there is no greenhouse?


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: Marvelleaux on 2007 March 02, 13:49:36
Room score plumeted in my game due to invisible fire.

I've just discovered a bug that has something to do with invisible fire, fire in inappropriate places, and the garden club rep.  My sim was cooking inside and the stove caught.  Another sim was outside in the green house and the room score plumeted.  I couldn't figure out why at first, then I sent him to the front of the house (the backyard is fenced) to greet the garden club lady and he promplty caught fire.  As soon as I got that problem solved a fire erupted on the outside of the house across from the burning stove.

Dammit.  I was having fun, too.


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: LFox on 2007 March 02, 13:53:25
Room score plumeted in my game due to invisible fire.

I've just discovered a bug that has something to do with invisible fire, fire in inappropriate places, and the garden club rep.  My sim was cooking inside and the stove caught.  Another sim was outside in the green house and the room score plumeted.  I couldn't figure out why at first, then I sent him to the front of the house (the backyard is fenced) to greet the garden club lady and he promplty caught fire.  As soon as I got that problem solved a fire erupted on the outside of the house across from the burning stove.

Dammit.  I was having fun, too.


Now that is WEIRD, my stove hasn't caught fire however a flamigo was struck by lighting TWICE during a storm and caught fire, it was put out by the rain though.  Aside from that i haven't seen any fires or had any weird fireness like you did.


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: Marvelleaux on 2007 March 02, 13:59:04
Oh, another thing...

Room score bottomed out when a sprinker broke.  That could be your problem if it isn't a bug :D


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: gali on 2007 March 02, 14:01:23
My greenhouses environment score is neg reg. I've tried everything. Even when the plants are perfect there is no change. moved the compost out. Changed and room up still nothing. Anyone else having this problem.

It's because the spoiled sims don't like to walk on the bare ground. You have to put a floor on the whole yard, and the rate will be increased immediately.


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: LFox on 2007 March 02, 14:01:39
Oh, another thing...

Room score bottomed out when a sprinker broke.  That could be your problem if it isn't a bug :D

Ahh now that i had happen.  A total of 3 sprinklers broke in the greenhouse and currently none are broken.  Maybe there's invisible puddles around?

Edit: Just went in my game to check for invisible puddles and low and behold the roomscore was half.  Also there were no invisible puddles, maybe everytime i looked at the room score a sprinkler was broken?


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: cwykes on 2007 March 02, 14:24:47
When things die, do you still have to make the sims clean up rather than deleting the dead plants yourself?  I think Pescado said that when you delete a dead patch of plants (this is pre-Seasons), something gets left behind like a bad smell that lowers the room score.


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: ZiggyDoodle on 2007 March 02, 15:18:39
Compost the dead plants.  Toss the dead plants, or live ones you don't like, in the bin.  Newspapers are also compost material.

The end result is much superior to fertilizer.   Takes the stuff about six hours to finished compost.

Wish that were true in real life. 



Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: kutto on 2007 March 02, 15:21:59
It's because the spoiled sims don't like to walk on the bare ground. You have to put a floor on the whole yard, and the rate will be increased immediately.


Well, that's completely untrue outside. I would imagine greenhouse retain some of their outsideness code, or else the plants wouldn't grow. Why it wouldn't keep that part is beyond me.


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: kuronue on 2007 March 03, 08:55:06
Room score plumeted in my game due to invisible fire.

I've just discovered a bug that has something to do with invisible fire, fire in inappropriate places, and the garden club rep.  My sim was cooking inside and the stove caught.  Another sim was outside in the green house and the room score plumeted.  I couldn't figure out why at first, then I sent him to the front of the house (the backyard is fenced) to greet the garden club lady and he promplty caught fire.  As soon as I got that problem solved a fire erupted on the outside of the house across from the burning stove.

Dammit.  I was having fun, too.


oh, is THAT what's happening to me? http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,7512.0.html


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: witch on 2007 March 03, 12:24:49
Someone in another thread says sims can spontaneously combust if they get too hot.


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: cwykes on 2007 March 09, 08:48:30
Newspapers are also compost material.


Yay - a use for newspapers at last!!!!


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: vilia on 2007 March 09, 09:22:52
Yay - a use for newspapers at last!!!!

Now if we could just stuff a couple of townies into the compost bin as well... :P


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: witch on 2007 March 09, 10:14:08
Yeah, I have to make my sims lurk round the letterbox to grab the paper for compost before the maid tidies it away and empties the trash. I can't get the trashcan compost unless someone kicks it. I was just thinking, what a turnaround from having hacks that stop the paper delivery!  ;D


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: jsalemi on 2007 March 09, 06:23:11
I wonder -- if you wall off the trash can, will that force them to use the compost bin?  I'll have to try that...


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: sara_dippity on 2007 March 09, 06:59:04
Probably, if they drop the trash. Trash piles made by dropping bags of trash can be composted. I found that out on accident when a mascot at uni disturbed the maid while she took a pizza box to the trash. She dropped the bag the box turned into in frustration, and when she picked it up she went straight to the trashcan. Next I'm going to see if when you kick a trash can over the mess can be composted. I bet it can.


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: sara_dippity on 2007 March 09, 07:05:15

It's because the spoiled sims don't like to walk on the bare ground. You have to put a floor on the whole yard, and the rate will be increased immediately.

I don't think that's it. My greenhouse has bare ground and its score is just fine.


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: witch on 2007 March 09, 08:15:37
Yes, I think the trashcan contents can probably be composted, I've been considering starting a fight with a townie just so I can get the damn thing kicked over.

Gali has always believed that about paving, I've seen her post it before. My sims usually only have small paved areas, driveways, barbeque areas and so forth, I don't have trouble with very low environment scores. I'd go with the invisible something/s lowering the score.


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: Jfederated on 2007 March 09, 08:33:36
SMBurpie has an album up on the exchange about Seasons.  In it she claims that, by process of elimination, she found the trellised plant that came w/an older EP (maybe even the base game) is responsible for plummeting environment scores, much like that bamboo flooring does when used in a large room.  For what it's worth.   :)


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: sara_dippity on 2007 March 09, 08:37:04
I have sims so mean they can kick the trashcan, and they live with gardeners. :)


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: witch on 2007 March 09, 09:25:42
 :P


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: Chienne on 2007 March 09, 10:04:08
Yes, I think the trashcan contents can probably be composted,

Yep, they can; I've done it.


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: Andygal on 2007 March 09, 13:53:10
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Now if we could just stuff a couple of townies into the compost bin as well...

or a baby. Baby compost!  :D


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: Li'l Brudder on 2007 March 09, 13:58:10
A dingo took my baby!!!

;D


Title: Re: Garden Environment score bottomed out?
Post by: diamonde on 2007 March 09, 18:54:27
It sounds like you've got something invisible stuck in there to me.

I had an inexplicably awful environment score on the patio of one of my houses that didn't seem to be caused by any objects and it couldn't have been the flooring because they used to like it fine.  After I carpet-bombed the whole area with the stuck object remover it deleted two 'destination' objects and that seemed to fix the problem.  I suspect it was stuck dog pee, since the dog stopped peeing on the patio and started peeing on the concrete in front of the letterbox afterwards.  Gotta love how Maxis pets prefer peeing on some sort of non-absorbent surface so they can properly display their work.

At least it gives the toddlers something to play with.