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After less than 24 hours of having the game, I already am desperate for an anti-it's raining/snowing/hailing hack! For crying out loud, when I'm asleep at night, I don't suddenly know that it's snowing and wake up to run to the window to complain or cheer. And there's sure no reason for them to drop actions to do this multiple times if it continues! I can see it being cute every now and then, if the Sim was idling, but to drop actions 5+ times for every single longish storm?!?!  ::) Who's bright idea was that?

Stupid EA.

It's being researched already.

Oh God... Haven't even gotten mine installed yet. Now I'm almost afraid to...lol!  I'm sure though it won't be long until someone squashes those annoyances!

In seasons/test now.

If you weren't such a prickly old coot, I'd kiss you, Pescado!  :D

Beat me to the punch. The only weirdo who magically knows it's snowing in the dead of night is my girlfriend.

I would love to see a hack to adjust the days left per season (on a per-household basis if possible).  I have over 30 families and I play them in rotation one Sim day at a time.  At this rate, it will take me weeks of real-time play before I see a change of seasons.  (Naturally I don't plan to wait that long!)  I would really prefer to have different houses on different seasons, if that's possible.

Also - an update to the clothingtool to plan outfit for outerwear would be much appreciated.

On the plus side:  All my custom hair seems to be working fine, as are my custom careers.  I like the "leftovers" option on the fridge.  And the fact that multiples of the same item in the inventory are now marked as x2, x3, etc. so they don't clutter up the inventory screen.

Lol... ingenious!

Quick question, does this action always happen, or is it... motive, mood, personality, aspiration dependent...

I might actually think this is kinda cute... but it should only happen maybe under certain conditions, so it doesnt happen so excessively.

Ste

I thought you could buy the weather machine to change the season  ???

You can.  Save the lot in whatever season you wish. Per the guide, all home lots keep track of thir own seasons but the most recently saved lot sets the season in the neighborhood view and at any community lot visited by your Sims from the last saved home lot.

The Weather Machine can prolong seasons for one day, three/four days or forever.
Other features include manipulating special weather effects (rain/slow/etc).
The aspiration cost is low (less than SimVac) and comes with three uses capacity.

About the thread question, it was just the annoying weather reactions already said. I'll test the test file.

This may just be me, but has anyone else noticed that during a game of marcopolo, sims that have high attraction for each, kinda snap out of the water to standing position to do the fingerlicking motion with the little hearts above their heads, then sink back into the pool again?
First glitch ive seen.

Also if someone could tell me how to keep the damn trees from getting sickly (yes ive got the ladybug majiggy) that would be awesome :)

I've experienced sims standing on water while swimming when compelled to whine about a low motive ever since the beginning.
A favourite is usually: "I'm not sleeping in a bed with <sim>!" followed by a light backstroke. Likely to be unexpected animation sequences.

Maybe you have to water them now?

naw you can't click on them, save for when they need pruning.  The only way ive figured so far is when your a plantperson you can talk to them.  But surely theres a way for normal sims as well?

Not that I've noticed. I just tend & spray whenever possible and only apply for garden society membership in winter when the trees are dormant.

Then thats a mod i would like :) just for the trees though

As your Sim gets a higher plant badge and tends the trees, they improve. They are hard to keep from being sickly at first, but then it's easy to keep them thriving just by tending them when they need it and keeping the ladybug house next to them. As long as your Sim has a silver or gold badge.  ;)

I must say I really appreciate the ability to set hair style according to clothing.  No more going to bed with a fancy updo, or wearing a beautiful evening gown with your hair in pigtails!

I was over that the second time they ran to the windows.
They will drop everything every single time it snows/rains/etc.

I would mind it if it was only once, like the first time a sim sees snow.

It even does it with free will off.

Grrr.

Willing to test any hack etc. I've had my game going for 2 days now, and otherwise love it.

Maybe a hack to stop the pond freezing over. Its not like you can skate on it or anything.

-Skadi

Anyone ever have a water balloon fight in the dead of winter?  Sims do....

I find it irritating that they wear outerwear in the summer.

Thank you, I didn't think to look for any new aspiration rewards until you mentioned this.  I don't have the Prima guide.

Does the gardener tend them? Sounds like an annoyance if you don't plan to play as a gardener.

There are only three types of tree that need to be tended like this and if you don't plant veges it will all be just the same as normal.

I'm missing the sleepclock and the bathroom and baby controllers the most.

Oh Lord, don't tell me that.  Mine's coming tomorrow and I was looking forward to it.

I think I'll kiss Pescado anyway.  (ha ha ha)

Me too.  What's up with them?

Once you set a hood's seasons, can you change it? It's set by hood, right? Not by lot? I mean other than the weather machine.

Like if I set my reality hood to be constant winter [cause it's currently winter], will I be able to change it to spring later? Or will it always be winter? I wanted to have my reality hood mirror ... reality.... [durr] in every aspect possible. ;)

The manual that comes with the EP says you can change the hood seasons by clicking on the season icon in the menu on the upper left (the sub-hood chooser).  So I take that to mean you can change them on the fly if you want.

a hack stop my sims from changing to outerwear everytime they go through the front or back door? Its driving me potty!  Grrrr its very annoying. Also makes the coat rack thingy somewhat usless.

I haven't really got to grips with the game yet, so far I have been through winter and part into spring and apart from a teeny bit on snow cover on the ground I have yet to see any weather. Also only managed to grow sickly tomatoes.. yum teehee

Any help regarding this constant changing of clothes would be greatly appreciated, its really ruining the game for me.

Thanks
-Xi-
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Yes, doing that will change them for the whole hood.  I started off with season 1 = spring, then changed it to season 1 = winter by clicking on the button at the top, and it made the change for the whole hood.

I've been playing for 2 hours and I desperately need a no autonomous water balloons hack.

I'm actually enjoying the changing into outerwear, and it solves a lot of the hassle of having to remember yourself each time.

I think I'd like it if they changed without spinning.

It will also make it hard to freeze the buggers to death.

They can, get Monique's 'change outfit-no spin', seems to be working in my game so far.

Not exactly a Seasons mod needed, but something about this seems wrong:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/Venusy/Sims2SeasonsWhatTheHell.png)

And I can't get the ARRRficial version due to a download limit on my connection.

Venusy: cancel and get the game somewhere else, then maybe the guide will ship. They are obviously having supply issues.  :D

I also like the auto-changing. Even in outerwear, you can freeze them to death, anyway. Or if you want to speed it along, send them for a swim, then make them stand around in their swimsuits.

I just wish EA had given us some reliable way (not the weatherman) of knowing what the temperature is outside. Yeah IRL, the weatherman can be wrong most of the time, but I can look at my own thermometer or stick my head out the window and know that he's wrong.

I like the auto changing to outwear its just a pain in the ass when they do it to cross to another room.  For instance on the 2nd floor i have a balcony outside the bedroom with 2 doors.  Now instead of being intelligent and going through the house they change into outwear walk onto the balcony go to the other door, change into normal and go to bed.  Doesn't seem to happen when they come downstairs from the bedroom though.

btw what the heck is wrong with the sleepclock and bathroom uses you?  I've been using them without problems.

Not necessarily anything wrong with them -- their absence from the Seasons directory just means that JMP hasn't checked them for compatibility yet.
 

Ahh okay thought it might be something like that.  I just left ALL my hacks in (which i'm aware its probably a really really dumb idea), seriously it'd be too much work to take them out.  I had several issues so each time one arrised i would search for hacks that could be the problem and removed them.  So far that's worked fine for me.

It would be great if the temp would appear on the control panel, like maybe next to the clock. Seems like it would be pretty easy to use or ignore it, as you wished.

My people are constantly showeing and bathing, I mean CONSTANTLY!!!  Is there anyway to make a no autonomous bathing hack.  I don't know if this is a feature, glitch, bug or *gasp* hack related issue.

Did you look in Crammy's mods?

Thermometry is not a part of the game and the internal values do not map to "real life" values at all, as sims want to be at 0 and run between -100 and 100, but the Lot Debugger currently has a display of this functionality.

Good to know!

Also, themometry may be my favorite word this week. It's like you can't say it without pushing up your horn-rimmed glasses.

nodormieregen

 No Friends Needed for Careers


Thank You!

Is it just me or do your sims have to put away leftovers one by one?
I had a sim serve food for dinner and their were guests who didn't eat it so I clicked on it to use the leftover option but it seems they have to do it plate by plate or am I missing something here?

Will check out the Lot Debugger though as that temp function will come in handy, Thanks!

No, I've been having to do it plate by plate as well.

After playing a few hours today, I guess I have another request: I'd like it to be reliably cold throughout the entire winter. I just played through an entire season in which it never snowed, and they stayed in their undies when outside half the time- with no consequences. The temperature only seemed to drop when I forced it to snow with the weather machine, in the very last day.

I mean, I can see something like that happening in California, but not so much in other places. I would think that you'd get a mix of warm/cold in fall and spring, and winter would be consistent. Or at least that's how I'd like it to be in the game.

I downloaded the latest Lot Debugger from the FFS Seasons directory, but the package file inside the zip was dated 2/16.  And I don't see anything about the temperature.  Was the wrong one uploaded?

Huh, My Sim was able to stick a whole serving platter of sammiches into the fridge. Granted that was the only time I tried it but it worked fine for me.

It looks like you can put the whole platter in the fridge, but any plates that have been served must be put away individually.

Edit: Rainbow, it's under Info...Temperature Stats

*breaking out the "I heart Pescado" shirt*

It's not there!  :'(  All I see is Test IQ.

Strange. I'd just started my game back up after updating it from the one I'd updated yesterday when I read your post. So I looked when I was done posting (stupid me) and it was there. Did you download it before he'd uploaded the new one, maybe?

There's a new version of the clothing tool today, too. (Yay!)

No, the one I just downloaded is dated today -- maybe you're looking at an older archive and put the new one someplace else?

I just redownloaded it three times.  The zip is dated March 1.  It's the one here:  http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/ffs/seasons/hacks/ffsdebugger.zip
When I open it, the file inside is dated 2/16/07, and when I go to put it in my Downloads\Hacks dir, it says do you want to overwrite the current file dated 2/16 with the new one dated 2/16?  ???

Mine is dated today too and that's where I obtained it. But I'll solve the immediate problem by attaching it here, unzipped, since it's only 28 KB.  :D

You don't happen to maybe have the old one lurking in another directory somewhere, do you?

No, I made a brand new empty directory for my downloads, and I only have Pescado, TJ, and Crammyboy directories in there.  I know it's the old one because when I open the zip file directly from the Seasons directory, it shows the date on the package file as 2/16, so Pescado has an old version on there.  But I just saw the MATY.zip has been uploaded, and when I downloaded it, the ffsdebugger.package is dated 3/1/07.  So I am going to try that.  I appreciate your uploading it for me.  Pescado just needs to fix the zip file in the Seasons directory.  :P

Just use the Director's CUt-seasons!  It's been updated and has the correct FFS Lot Debugger in it.

Yes, that's what I meant by the MATY.zip.

I got a new beef that i just noticed.  Garden Spinklers yes you heard garden spinklers i've had a total of 3 broken spinklers within a matter of sim days.  It's stupid and incredibly annoying if you don't notice they've broken.  Anyone else got them breaking so much?

Mine have never broken, when they break is it like when showers break?

Aren't they called sprinklers?  ;)

When they break you see water dribbling out of the sprinkler it doesn't make puddles though and it's not overly noticable all the time.

aussieone:  Odd i coulda sworn i put r's in there.  Oh well usually i skip whole words instead.

I would like to see a moded version of the a plant-sim, where they have an aversion to water like a gremlin, and a mermaid variation where they have to stay in contact with water all the time or they die within 2 sim hours or something.

ok, after playing a bit more I have a few requests for mods.
1) I love the advantages of being a plantsim, but would it be possible to be one and have my sims look normal instead of a jolly green giant?
2) Please please please make the "talk to" time for plants shorter, even with my plant sim it's so long I spend all day talking to my garden... and it's not that big!
3) When requesting the garden club membership could we get an option for the individual OR the whole household? I think it's kind of stupid that the whole house is judged on the same garden, but everyone has to be judged individually, it's kind of annoying...
4) Maybe this one has been requested and/or done already but I didn't see it... I would like macros for tend to and talk to, separately and also included in the "garden" option if possible? That would be soooooo helpful.

Does anyone know yet how the snapdragons effect your temprature?  Maybe I'm doing this wrong somehow, but I have a greenhouse and it's not that big, I have 3 sun lamps in it... why are my sims freezing cold still?  I'm assuming it has something to do with my having trouble placing the doors... I couldn't place them on the greenhouse walls, it said it had to be a fence, so I tried to put them on a fence and it still didn't work, so I did moveobjects on and put them in place, but it acts as though it's still outside. I have the roof on the greenhouse yet it still snows inside and my sims freeze up in there when it should act as though they are in the home shouldn't it?

I haven't tried building one.  I've just seen the one that is on the Roths' lot in Riverblossom.  Maybe that would give you some ideas?

If they get cold, I think you have to do something to make them warm again... if you are using a fence then the greenhouse isn't enclosed, either, and it counts the same as being outside. I was able to place the greenhouse doors with no trouble, maybe try rebuilding it? Are there any objects blocking the walls?

I am desperate for a way to turn my sims into plant sims on purpose. I've been playing the game for a while trying to get it to happen and letting all the gardens go to hell in a handbasket just so I could spray them, and still no luck. Hopefully someone will make it soon... but I'm sure it won't be long before someone makes it.  I really want to have a decently attractive, non-maxis sim become a plant sim, so I can spawn a bunch of good gardeners for the neighborhood...

As far as the "jolly green giant" goes, I don't mind the green, I just wish the plant sim had more hairstyle options.

With you AND Rainbow saying the same thing I'm glad I'm not doing something wrong cause you never know. lol. Ok then since it's not me I want a hack for this cause it's dang annoying having to do plate by plate plus the platter. Uhg. And I also would like the plant talking to time much less then what it is now.  ::)

And Kat thank you for posting the lot debugger because I had the same issue as Rainbow.

Eve..I'm not sure what the problem is with the greenhouse. I built one, put a roof on it and installed 3 doors and don't have your problem. Believe me, building the sillly greenhouse was work for me. I'm a complete idiot when it comes to building. Why are you using a fence for walls..maybe that's why you can't place doors? At least 50% of the walls have to be greenhouse walls..the rest have to be regular walls.  My greenhouse is 'indoors' as far as my Sims are concerned. The fact that it's snowing in your greenhouse is maybe a clue to a roof problem?  

ETA: Snapdragons have no effect on temp as far as I can tell. I use them in the greenhouse for mood. I may be wrong, since the greenhouse is considered 'indoors' where temp is ideal.

Well I tried to place a fence to place the doors, cuz that's what it said they had to be on, but it wouldn't go on a fence either, so I deleted it and just placed the doors, but obviously it's just acting as though they weren't there...I will have to tinker with it more to find out what's up with those doors, or try different ones maybe....sigh. But the walls went up just fine.
yeah I've had a few near freezing, just make em hop in the shower or drink hot chocolate they are fine. there are so many cute little things that pop up with the new seasons, it's so fun... I had a penguin running through my house and had a flashback of billy madison ha ha
My plant sim was just a fluke... I had a couple who was gardening together, I had sprayed a few plants here and there, nothing major... only one plant needed it, he went out and there was a puff of smoke and poof, there he was... funny that he only had a silver badge and the wife was gold...he's still at sliver come to think of it... however, I had made him fish once first, maybe that makes a difference? I love it though, keeping the motives up is easy then! I just wish they looked normal, my sim guys I don't mind, my girls are so pretty... and I want to see them that way :( I don't want green babies either :P lol

Ugh, "Talk to" is a _timed_ interaction? I figured after a Sim hour or so she wasn't going to stop so I kept canceling out of it. No wonder it didn't seem to do squat. In that case I second/third/nth a mod to make the time much shorter.

They will talk to the plant til the plant status is "Thriving"

I'd like some sort of mod that allows the sim to gain fitness while gardening.

I've been playing the single male that comes with Riverblossom- Leod? All he eats is fish dishes from his pond, and he spends all his time breaking his back gardening, but he's fat as a house. I guess the new fish dishes are incredibly fattening, because he's eaten maybe 3 plates of food total over 4 days (thanks, leftovers!), and his fitness bar has dropped like a stone. I think sims should get fitter by gardening- all that bending over planting, tending, watering, etc really works up a sweat IRL, why not for the sims? After all, they sure get tired, hungry and stinky from it.

I like having him "live off the land", so to speak. I don't want to have to make time every day to have him work off that trout he ate half a plate of.

I'd also love the Plantsims to have more hairstyles. Long, ivy-leaf hair would be neat, or short, spiky pine needles?

In order to be a proper greenhouse, half the walls have to be the greenhouse walls, and the others can only be regular walls, not fences.

And yes, they will "talk to" until the plant is thriving, or it raises 80 points. So if the plant isn't doing that great, it will take a LONG time.

Deleting a request for a "Clothing Doesn't Effect Sim Warmth mod."

JFade, "....There is no rating on clothing, Maxis OR custom, for warmth level."

Another misconception bites the dust... Thanks!

the mod i have been waiting for the most is the babycontroller. God, all my sims are spewing out kids left and right, and i have to handle them manually. Argh!

I want a no-autonomy-fridge action that works.  I know Inge's not updating her stuff anymore, and while her no-autonomy fridge technically works in the game, once you put leftovers in it, you can't take them out again.  I'm so used to using that hack that it just astonishes me how often my sims now go to the fridge to cook a meal only for themselves when there are hungry kids in the house.  AND they don't autonomously use the leftovers, so unless I catch them in the act, cancel the action and tell them to, the leftovers never get used.  I've been turning the fridge around so they can't get to it, but that's just a pain.

I saw the phrase "and it's not just produce and pescados" in the Prima guide.  Is this a shout out? ;)

Kinda sounds like you're trying to use regular doors for your greenhouse - that doesn't work. There's a special greenhouse door in your gardening section.

I too would jump with joy at a hack that can make sims into plantsims right away, I haven't managed it yet and I've tried with a complete bug-infested orchard of 8 trees. (I love the plantsim skin, by the way, very nice pattern. It just slightly disturbs me there's a wallpaper with roughly the same pattern on it.)

Sprinklers break too much in my game as well. And I thought the toilets were bad before Pescado's fix...

I have exactly the opposite reaction.  I would love a "no plantsims under any circumstances" hack, like the ones that are available for preventing vampire biting, etc.  I'm sure I'm not the only one who prefers to keep the game realistic.

Try using it -- it's in the director's cut, so it may not need an update.  The BUY isn't officially 'sanctioned' yet for Seasons, but it works just fine.

Not for me, although yes - there is now spinning animation for wardrobes - the door changing still causes the spin.. I really hope someone sorts this out, the constant changing of clothes is very annoying.

I used to use Inge's fridge but now I use the no autonomous cooking one and it still works in my game.  If they can't autonomously cook thay don't need to go to the fridge.  I think it's by Squinge.

Another mod I've been wanting actually since the EP was announced is changing the sunrise/sunset times. Where I live, it's only light from about 9 am to 3 pm in winter, and in summer the sun doesn't set until 11 pm or so. So I find the darkness of the Sims summer quite depressing. It should be light much longer during summer than during winter.

I have no idea if it can be done or not, but I would love it anyway.

nope, actually I was using the greenhouse doors, and I still can't get them to work in my game. I even started a new greenhouse from scratch. I am a pretty advanced builder, not new to this at all, just so you know.  I went in after this last night and tried again. Every time no matter what I do I get the "Must be placed on a fence" message. In fact, the only way I COULD get a door on my greenhouse was to put up a section of wall and put a different door on it (so yes, that does work by the way) but I really want my greenhouse door :( It will go down if I place it with move objects on, but then I might as well not even have a green house because it doesn't act like a room.

Are you KIDDING me?! 100 Times?!

I've spent all day gardening with various sims, it seems to me it's nearly impossible to have them garden and NOT become plantsims. Every friggan one! I planted a plot with strips of soil, 6 plots long, I think I had 4 strips, because I wanted to see if I could make a living off gardening. I began the game with a toddler and my selfsim became a plant I think the day after she became a child (it's between two "Robin Grew Up Well" memories, but it surprised me how short of a time it took). Any decently sized garden will give you plantsims in no time.

Sounds to me like maybe something got corrupted after install? You should back up your neighborhoods and downloads and try reinstalling Seasons.

I can't LIVE without no social worker [don't remember if that's an awesome hack or not]. I also am not able to adequately function without bathroom uses you and business runs you... all the macrotastic functions, for that matter! I'm gonna check out the seasons hacks that have been updated already when I get home. Since I'm getting the game today... it should be there when I get home... I want to dive right in and have all the necessary hax.

If anyone knows anything about the no social worker hack, I'd appreciate it. ^_^

Also, did they break the nude hack again, or no? I hate mosaic in my pron and in my sims.  >:(

If I remember correctly, no social worker is by Inge who now posts at Dinnerbell.  http://simlogical.com/dinnerbell/index.php

I want a NO plantsimism hack. I hate having those ugly supernatural creatures in my game and this forces it upon you unless you buy a trillion ladybug houses.

I'm also begging for smart-serve! I never knew how many times sims would go to the fridge and cook when their hunger meter is not even a quarter empty. Why in the world don't they autonomously grab the leftovers if they are going to be doing that bullshit? It's pissing me off!

Thanks, I hadn't heard of that one.  I'll go see if I can track it down.  Sounds like it will solve the problem.

While we're on the subject, I vote for a "fitness while gardening" hack, too.  I've never had so many fat sims.  I thought food you grew yourself was supposed to be more healthy!   ;D

There was something else while I was playing this morning that I was wishing someone would fix, but now of course, my elderly brain has decided to dump that info.  I'll think of it again when I play some more, and report back.

Pescado is Spanish for fish.

I got the game today, have it installed w/o hacks. Oh crud...is that a bummer. So I've exited out and getting ready to go through my hacks folder to update what needs it and stick it back in there.Then I'll play some more.

Did notice something odd, maybe it'll right itself as I play through the SIM day, but had two SIMS Woohoo and try for baby. Ok, got the music so we're having a kid. 6AM comes and everyone's energy meter is full except hers. She's low on energy, bladder, hygiene and of course close to starvation. Either they've screwed the code for pregnant sims like they did with the babies crying all the time as posted above or I need to play longer and see if this improves. She should have gotten up with her energy meter full, hunger would have probably been mid way and bladder ..well probably needed a bathroom run. Anyone else noticed this?

Fishing seems neat though. Yes I can see the fishies in the pond. So I would think that's definitely a video card glitch if you can't. I have a GF 256 meg 6600. Everything is aok in game settings with it.

This'll sound really mean, but are you sure she was actually sleeping?

I was going to ask the same thing, and no i haven't had this problem.  Had several pregnant sims and play with my hacks and nothing like that happened.

Isn't the additional Wonder Woman rip-off anim caused by the coat rack? I happen to know that uses custom code because for some reason they make children use the step stool (at least I think they do).

Oh yeah she is sleeping. It seems to be improving as time wears on. When I got back into the game (Added the hacks) then it had them all standing around with the standard maxed out energy and  bladder, social, fun and hunger about 1/2 way. After that it was fairly normal for pg lady sims.Maybe longer sleeping time to get the bar to full, but other than that pretty normal.

However the damn game decided to crash. I have the autoyak, phone hack and macrotastics files in there.(The latest and greatest from Director's Cut)
Crashed when she was on the phone yaking with a friend. So it was using the autoyak feature. It may be because I had not removed the Pets-visitor controller. Sausville's Hack conflict dector has always shown a conflict with that and phonehack.But it always worked just fine in Pets. So I took the visitor controller out for now. Maybe that's it. However
before I had installed pets I had an audio related glitch that would crash the game no matter which lot you were in or what you were doing and when I deleted the groups.cache it fixed the problem. Probably way past time to delete that again. Will give that a whirl and see if things run smoothly again.

I was at 2 days left in winter and so far no snow. However the pond froze over on day 3 and they had started to put on a coat. Oh well it'll restart back at winter day 1 so we'll see if things progress any differently this time.

P.S. The fridge thing with the leftovers. Some custom fridge's just don't have the option to store leftovers. Some that do lets you put them in and not take them out. So I will have to weed out which one's might work and which one's just don't.

First thing that crosses my mind that I would want...  something to make my game say autumn, not fall!

jfade at DJS Sims just made one; you can find it at http://www.djssims.com/index.php?category=10

Does noeatcrap take care of this if the sims aren't lazy?

So far I've had all my sims gorging on the sparkly food, but they might've been low Active.

This is really pissing me off too. I thought the EAoids said somewhere that it would be called Autumn in the en_uk version of the game?

What's the big deal?  :o

I was wondering what's the point of having a UK English version of the game if they are not going to use UK English.

Ok - I guess it isn't a huge deal - it just bugs me is all.

I'll keep this in mind for the next update to my UK English mod.
Bugs me as well.

I'm American and "fall" is a verb, and "autumn" is the proper term for a season. But I'm atypical, I guess.

I would like a move away from skating rink entrances hack. Those damn townies just hang around forever!

I prefer autumn too, and I don't know why they didn't just go with that, but maybe they thought it would confuse the sheeple.  ::)

In the winter season, when sims go to community lots, all the townies are in outerwear.  This is good.  Then Count Whatis shows up in a black turtleneck and scarf.  Not so good.  Being a vampire, its all about the cape.  According to prima guide, vampires can't freeze so why the costume change?

I'd love a "fishing is fun" hack :)

And man, am I relieved that "don't wave at me" still works ;D

I would love to see a hack that synchronizes an owned business lot's season with the current playables' season like other community lots, instead of keeping track of its own(WTF?!?) Stoopid EA making things difficult... Grr.

It really bugs me as well. As does the spelling of neighbor. I'm sure it used to be spelt neighbour in the UK version or maybe I'm just imagining things!

I'll have to check later, but I'm pretty sure my copy says autumn here.

Edit: Nope, it does say 'fall' -- I was sure it said autumn.  Guess I was seeing things. :)

How about a "nogetstruckbylightingwant" I mean really who WANTS to be struck by lighting?

I agree with the gardening builds body mod.

Thanks for all the awesomeness, playing without it for a few hours reminded me just how awesome you all are.

I know it has been mentioned but I would really like to see a mod that prevents them from changing into outerwear every time they go outside.  I don't want them putting their coats on unless I say so, dammit!  (Control freak?)    I see a lot of people actually like this feature but it drives me crazy.  (Not a long trip for me.)

I downloaded all the awesomes this morning after checking out the game with no CC, and I was SO happy to see that all my most necessary hacks were updated and ready to go, and even more excited to see an anti-ZOMG IT'S SNOWING hack.

*has pescado and TJ's babies*

I love you guys. The whole bathroom situation was pissing me off. DAMMIT GET OUT OF THERE WHEN YOU'RE DONE PEEING! >:O

I _love_ it when they go to the backyard via the house and pause to take their coat off, walk through the house, put their coat right back on, and then head on out into the snow.  ::)

My current pet peeve concerns the gardener.  I DON'T want him watering my crops and I DON'T want him to rake my leaves.  It takes far too long on my larger lots and he never finishes. 
Also, I've noticed the increase crying of infants, and I've found that if you lay them on the floor, they stop crying.  Not very maternal I know, but....

It's not supposed to work like that.

If the origin is the same condition (outside or inside) as the destination, walking through a different condition isn't supposed to force them to change clothes.

Never order an in-stock item and an out-of-stock item from Amazon at the same time.  You will get messes like this.  I suspect it's actually the Prima guide that's causing the problem.

I'd check your local EB to see if both are in stock, then cancel the whole darn thing!  EB gives you a buck or two off on the guide if you buy it at the same time as the game.

if that's the issue, you can edit the order to "ship separately", and they'll send what they do have right away. My mom ordered me a bunch of books for my birthday one time but had to give me the receipt because it said they wouldn't be arriving till August (my birthday was in April)- turns out she'd not noticed one book was a preorder for a book not coming out till August, she did ship separately and they arrived a few days later (all but the preorder)

This appears to have fixed it. The game is now shipping on Monday, and the guide on a date between the 10th and the 13th.

EB hasn't existed over here since 1999. My "local" GAME (UK name for EB, owned by EB UK, split from the parent US company) is at least an hour and a half away by bus and train, so what I'd save on the guide I'd lose on transport costs.

What a coincidence. It just so happens we have such a product on dock. I knew it would piss me off before I even LOOKED at the game, so I already ordered that it be made.

You can find it in seasons/hacks as "nounneededcoats". The thread for it will be up when Boris posts it up.

Yup, the number 100 is complete and total BS. According to the code, it takes only 15 sprays. After which, there's a 10% chance they'll be transformed into a plant Sim. Hardly difficult to obtain. And like Chienne pointed out (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,7442.msg209159.html#msg209159) I've already got a hack to make plant sims impossible to get for those people who don't like the stupid supernatural garbage. :)

Oh man, pre-cognition too. Downloaded and installed ta.

I'm trying to grow some tomaotes, and I swear they require more tending than a new born baby.  If I had devote this much time to my RL garden, it would have been made into compost a long time ago.  And that's using sprinklers as well.

I'm finding the fishing obsession irratating. When a nanny or a visitor comes over instead of interacting with my sims they run off to my pond and fish   ::) I am also finding my sims drop everything just to go talk to my young plant child even though she is happily playing with the toy bunny (her bars are all green) she continues to play and ignore the sims who just stand there and stare at her ??? I hope it's not just me finding this frustrating

Two U-ROCK! Points hereby awarded:

Pes for prescient logic re: vamp attire. *100 fists waving rock signs!*

Jfade for option to avoid becoming a giant zucchini. *five crowd surfers!*

Rah!

*powerchord*

I had major trouble on the start but heres a few tips that might help.

Use homemade compost, plant them in the right season (tomatoes in summer), let sprinklers water them and never do it yourself.  If you got a gold badge talk to them up until their thriving then weed once a day and forget until harvest.  This probably doesn't go as smoothly if your garden is outside a greenhouse though.  The first day or 2 are the worst on a new garden but after that they barely need any attention at all.

Why when a plantperson gives a bath to a toddler plantperson does the adult's water need go down?

I've also got a hack conflict of some sort that involves plantpeople as well. They keep jumping out of interactions, I can't queue them as they jump and their plumbobs blink on and off. (Time to remove all CC and hacks and start adding them back in one creator at a time).

Another question for anyone who knows... when a plantperson has a plantbaby, will it always be the same gender as the adult? I had a female "have plantbaby" and 4 times over it was a girl. I haven't had luck getting a male converted yet to try and see if he can only make boy plants.

i got some  hack thing that won't let me plan casual, fromal, or work-out outfits.
But everything else.

Sounds like the pregnancy wear all hack from Squinge. Is that among your downloads?

My most wanted hack is one to give our NPC friends (enemies?) some sort of a rational desire to wear outerwear when appropriate. I don't know about you, but my mailman doesn't come trudging through knee-deep snow in a short-sleeved shirt and a pair of shorts.

That hack was updated for Seasons over at insim.

Thanks for the suggestions LFox, I'll be sure to try them.

He posted an update earlier today to fix the problem with losing some of the planning outfit options.

i thought i did get the update, but i guess there was an even newer one.
thansk guys.

I want a way to adjust the season for a lot so that I can synchronize my lots correctly.  Sometimes, I want my people to move in on a day other than Monday.

Sadorandomness. My female plantsim spawned a boy just fine.

Use the weather machine to sync the seasons on your new lots.  That's what i did and it worked fine, not sure what you can do about the day though.

To change the day, use the time warp function on the lot synchroniser.

This is a very minor thing but it's been bugging me ever since I first saw it:  The want labeled "Buy an Garden Plot".  I wish somebody would change the "an" to "a".  I don't know if this is just in the US English version of the game, but it's annoying.

I haven't seen this yet, but I'm sure it will bug me too.  :P

NPCs are coded to be immune to temperature. They did not come equipped with cold-weather versions of their uniforms, and thus were not able to use outerwear.

Too imprecise.  I would like a way to put a lot at a more specific day in the 20 day "seasonal year"...  It can probably be done with SimPE... once the Seasons version of that is available.

Edit: Paladin has a weather and seasons controller out now.

Pescado, you are a tower of awesomeness.

Another request, if you please.  I would like a hack that gets visitors out of the hot tub before they reach flash point and spontaneously combust.  Can this be done?

Doesn't the water put out the fire?  :)

I for one wholeheartedly agree with that, Ness. Americanisms, blah.

This happens? Jebus Krispies. Unacceptable.

I'd like water to actually put out fire in my game. I mean, der. That's not even funny-weird, it's just stupid-weird.

Knowledge sims typically have this want. Popularity sims typically get this as a fear.

I may be able to help with this one; if you have the 'less whiny sims' hack, that'd be the problem. (It was the one I LEAST wanted to get rid of, too.)

And I'd like to second the request for everyday wear that can be used as formal NOT heating up the sim. All my favorite dresses are set as formal! I can't live like that!

(Ps: I have no clue how doable this would be but I'd kill for a hack that made vegetable plants not crash the game if you put them in someone's inventory. See, I had move_objects on and was trying to get this family to a new house. Worse, it didn't crash until I REOPENED her invetory, in the new house...)

Thank you Morigale! You saved me many restarts trying to figure out which one was causing the problem. I took out lesswhiney and I'm not having the plantperson problems.

Is this with the updated version? It should have been updated to include the relevant constants already. Do not use outdated merchandise.

I have a hack in testing for this: http://temp.djssims.com/beta/djshottubisnthot.zip

I've learned that this can also happen with the treadmill, so I'll be making it not do this as well when I get the chance. :)

I would really love something like this as well. That was one of the reasons, I was looking forward to seasons. In reality this is kind of the whole reason for there being seasons, isn´t it. So I really hate, that they left that out. And I would love longer summer days simply for gameplay enjoyment.

And I second the request for gardening affecting the fitness level. It´s too bad, that the fish dishes are so fattening to begin with. Isn´t fish supposed to be healthy and non-fattening?

I would, too. For the opposite reasons!/me hiss at sun!

Longer days. PSSH! ETERNAL DARKNESS FTW!/me hiss at sun!

I think you're probably overfeeding, that's why. Try noeatcrap?

The overheating in the hot tub / while working out / while doing yardwork / everything else in the damn game is really, really getting old.

Is it possible to make the heat increase more moderate? I mean, yes, people do get warmer while working out but they should be able to work out for more than a few minutes without exploding.

(hangs head in shame)

No. And I thought I was being so careful too. I printed out a list of all my hacks, removed those not compatible and updated those that were updated. Somehow this one slipped through and I was using the version from 2/11/07 instead of 2/28/07.

Knowledge Sims tend to be suicidal in general.

I would like a better bugJarNoDecay. The cheat that is built in, for my game at least, cannot be put into my handy .cheat file -- for me it not only doesn't work, but causes any cheats after it to not be entered as well -- so it needs to be entered at least once per playing session, sometimes resulting in the death of kept lightening bugs.

Also, it would be really great if captured butterflies didn't die as well. The Maxis Cheat only saves the lightening bugs, condemning my butterflies to death by jar if I don't release them.

Thanks.

Salmon is one of the most fattening dishes in the game (I only have my sims cook it if they're at least 75% hungry), so I assume that this is the same for fish caught in the lakes.

But catfish, bass, and trout are far less fatty fish than salmon. All three are white, rather than red, fish -- I think -- and so are far better for you.

Doesn't seem fair for them to be as fatty in the game...

I had the same experience, I wondered why I wasn't in debug mode, the lightning bug cheat was the only new addition to my userstartup file. When I removed it, the startup worked fine again.

Salmon is worth about as much as a porkchop, maybe 140-160 FP at high skill levels, perhaps even more with the "fresh" bonus. Meaning, don't bother unless your sim is really, really red.

I am in desperate need of a "no autonomous water baloon fight" mod.
I was playing a house with two vampires who kept(and I mean constantly) running outside to have a water baloon fight, all of course while they where being slowly burned to death by the sun. Fucking retards

Until someone makes such a hack, why don't you lock the external doors for everyone?

I did, eventually.
I just hate having to keep a constant eye on what one or two particular "suicidal" sims are doing

True, and I really like that - in combination with 'noeatcrap' one fish meal (made from fresh ingredients) is enough to feed a rather hungry sim (about 75%) two times. Just store the half-emptied plate in the fridge. Since seasons, my sims live on leftovers ;D.

I'd like a mod to fulfil the 'gain skillpoint' want when it's achieved by drinking eggplant juice.

There is a nonawesome hack (monique at MTS2) that disables water balloon autonomy.

I think that is just for the water balloon prank, thanks though

For the person who was having trouble placing doors on a greenhouse, I also had that problem.  I discovered that you need to place your doors before placing the gardening dirt down.  Or, remove the tile of dirt that is directly inside where the door will be, and then place your door there.

Nope, Monique uploaded a new one today: MQ_No_Autonomous_Play_Water_Balloon_Fight_SEASONS.zip

Hacks/Mods I would like to see for Seasons:

- Allow Sims to be able to skate on ponds (When they are frozen, of course.)

- Gain Body Skill points from gardening

- Do more than pet the penguin? (If possible.)

- Earn more money through gardening.  Maybe I suck, but I don't make a lot of money through it.

- Limit the amount of times idiot Sims go to the window and think, "Oooh, it's snowing!" and "Aww, it's raining."  They can't run a business if they're constantly looking out the window to see what they just saw five minutes ago.

- That's all I can think of until I play the game again.

*RenegadeSims

This mod is already in testing and can be downloaded here: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/ffs/seasons/test/

I'm using it and it seems to work probably 90% of the time, I still get some sims looking up at the sky but it doesn't cancel out any interaction they are already doing.

Me too, and I find that I kinda like it this way, actually. Because it lets them fulfill the "see snow/rain" and get the "see first snow" memory, but without being so damn annoying about it. Occasionally noting the weather when they're not doing anything else is fine, obsessively running to the window every 5 minutes is not.  :D

That's how Pes designed it.

atleast its just that dumping your actions. I have actions being dropped left and right for no reasons, everything dumps them except for the weather :/ go figure. ..no hacks in yet either

And this is why we all love Pes even though we don't always want to admit it!

Ok I looked at MTS2 and even Insim where she is also putting her mods and I am not finding it. Could I get an exact link from someone please?

Shhhh!  ;)

It is under Monique > No Autonomous Hacks linky (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=127110)

Exactly!  ;)

I was worried that maybe I'd typed the cheat in incorrectly. Nice to know I'm not the only one with this problem, irritated with it like everyone else that wants it. Who wouldn't want free lighting?

 ::) ::shakes head then hangs it in shame:: Yeah I looked under her name and missed it. I saw it but didn't so thank you for the link!

Downloaded that "No running to the window" beta. Gawd that is annoying. I played Rosehill/whatever testing the game w/o hacks & CC because of my crash problem....and I was about nuts w/o hacks after 2 hours of play.Took the damn phone out, killed off the piano.....geeze. Seems like playing there vanilla,
the snows were deeper and maybe the seasons are working better. Time will tell. Going to load up with new shinny hacks and some CC objects. See what happens then.

And that overheating in the hot tub..WTH is that? Haven't gotten to the treadmill yet but found them simmies get fat lots quicker than they ever did before. They're all going to have to eat chef's salads at this rate. Some of them could spend hours on the exercise machine and barely get up to the line taking them into really fat. Going for "Fit" should be a real challange.

Is plumbing-lessbreaking going to get updated any time soon?

Does it even need updating?

I'm going batshit here with the damn showers.

We need a noadhd for skating rinks.

Sims hopping on the rink for one go around the rink, and then jumping off isn't very.... interesting... or fun.

Isn't that bloody typical.

They'll play poker for hours until they nearly drop dead, yet something that's fun for us to watch, they don't wanna know about it!  :P

I totally second this. 3 trees and a small garden, and the gardener is completely unable to finish his work. It's one of those "did people even PLAY this game?" things.

I have yet to have anyone overheat, but that sounds very annoying too.

There is reason to suspect that the kitten killer is causing the overheating, because I am not able to replicate it.

The kitten killer is not Seasons compatible. Remove it, silly feline murderers.

Ah - and I'm not getting overheating and I'm not using the kitten killer.

My sims don't react very much to temperature at all. I can't even make my sims very cold outside in winter.

Mine haven't overheated either, except for the idiot child who jumped on the bed for who knows how long. Not a single combustion though, not even after spending hours and hours in the hot tub in the summer.  The kitten killer is sitting in a folder on my desktop with all the other hacks that I don't have updates for.

The over-heating stopped as soon as I removed the kitten killer. I'd say that it was totally responsible for the problem.

Jase posts that Inteen is totally NOT compatible with Seasons and that you shouldn't use it and yet....

I'd like to revise my post and state that the only mods I'm currently interested in at all are:

- Allow Sims to be able to skate on ponds (When they are frozen, of course.)

- Gain Body Skill points from gardening

That is all :)

*RenegadeSims

Not possible at all. Besides, you shouldn't do this in real life, you'll clip through the ice, get stuck, and drown.

Dang.  My Sims can't afford fancy skating rinks, nor do I have the patience to find space on their little lots to fit the damn rinks in.  What a shame.  And of course I wouldn't try this in real life, I never skate in an iced pond unless it has a circle of fire either within or surrounding it.

*RenegadeSims

P.S. In the Simworld, isn't anytihng possible?  If not, I'm sure the awesome Pescado could make it so..*nods*

Wait a few weeks and someone will do a re-mesh of the ice rink. Or so it is safe to assume. :) If it bothers someone else enough to make the effort, and can be done, it will be done.

Or make an invisible one you can plunk down in the middle of a pond, or something.

I had a teen overheat when he was body skilling on the treadmill, but he didn't burst into flame.  That was before I knew that having the treadmill outside (and maybe even inside?) is a BT.


Does the ice rink work in seasons other than winter?  I know a roller rink comm lot comes with Seasons, and it's actually rather neat, but I haven't plunked down any ice skating rinks yet.

Meh, my sim kept catching on fire last time I played and I've never used the kitten-killer (took a look at it, decided it was too much trouble, went with woohoo teens instead, which I don't think I even managed to get updated for pets before seasons came out)

My sims are also overheating, and the only CC I have is MATY hacks because I can't be bothered to hunt down everyone elses stuff for every EP.

Adding aging off to the .cheat file does the same thing. I don't use the cheat personally, but I had to remove it from a friend's startup in order to get the rest of the cheats to work.

And that is why it would be fun to make the Sims do it.   ;D

Ice skating does work in other seasons. I have one at a park and there are always sims using it no matter what time of year. Apparently, the ice temp is self-regulating.

i would love a hack to have a gold gardening badge, and gold fishing badge instantly.

You won't find it here (seeing as hacks made here tend to be the less cheaty sort of hacks), especially seeing as the Badge Juicer in-game has probably been updated to include these options. Open the console (Ctrl+Shift+C), and type in "boolprop testingcheatsenabled true". Hold down shift, and click on any sim. Select "Spawn..." and then the Badge Juicer

I am disappointed by the lack of option to terrorize skaters with the zamboni.

So hack one.  Or is there even a zamboni?

No Zambonis as far as I know.

Oddly, I would love to see a hack or maybe an object that would allow to pick where the lightning strikes or for it to strike a certain sim that's on the lot. heh.

Doesn't Paladin at SimWardrobe (http://www.simwardrobe.com) have a lightning helm? It's not quite the same as directing the game's lightning to strike where you want it to, but I believe you can strike individual sims with it. I'm not sure if it's been updated for Seasons, or if it even needs to be, since it is a hacked object and not a global mod.

I'll have to check that out. Thanks.

I'm not sure if it's mod related, but I seem to be having trouble with Sim parents who want to give their toddlers billions of bottles when they're not hungry.  Would this be because I have quadruplet toddlers?  I was quite relieved when they grew to be children, but I had to remove the fridge, emergency stop the baby controller, and have three adults tending those kids at once. 

Yeah, I keep having problems with sims not being able to fall in love even with 100/100. One will fall in love, but the other won't.

Stupid sims.

I've been experiencing this for a while (pre seasons). I thought it may have been Baby Controller related but Pescado ignored my post in that thread, so I figured that was his way of saying no it's not.

As for whatever else is causing sims to overfeed their spawn, I have no idea.

It's funny because I haven't had this problem before I installed Seasons (or with other families...), but if it's been happening before Seasons, then it might be an isolated issue concerning this household.  Interesting. 

I was having this problem pre-Seasons.

I finally worked out what was causing it after the following episode:  nanny was on mother's schedule.  father came home from work at 6pm, in green asp.  Grew baby up to toddler.  There was smartmilk on the counter, but father couldn't use it as not in gold or platinum.  Both nanny and father were endlessly trying to feed bottles to the toddler.  I put the smartmilk asp reward in the father's inventory and the behaviour stopped.

It seems like they were trying to force feed multiple smartmilk bottles to the toddler, but since neither the father nor the nanny were high enough asp to use smartmilk they were getting ordinary bottles out of the fridge.

Now I keep the smartmilk container in a parent's inv until it's needed.  Haven't had a repeat of the behaviour.

The situation you're describing appears to be impossible, since there's absolutely no condition which would apparently allow a toddler to be fed normal milk at a hunger level of greater than -20 in the absence of smart milk....

Are you certain you're using the most recent version?

I have been seeing similar behavior in my game for weeks.  It started well before Seasons.  I just checked and my version of the babycontroller is dated 12/8/06, which appears to be the latest version.  My macrotastics is up to date as well.  I always play with free will on, and usually set up the baby controller with the "always smart milk" option turned on.  I never use the "disintegrate bottles" option, only "dispose bottles".  Ever since this hack was updated to force-feed smart milk, I have had this problem.  It only goes away if there is no more smart milk to be had.  I have the "nobabyharrassment" installed (same version as in the DC) but it doesn't help in this situation.

I'll go in now to try to get a screenshot.

EDIT:  Well, I got the screenshots but now I'm not sure if this is actually a problem or not.  The toddler in question is in gold aspiration status, with hunger at about 30% (in the yellow).  The only adult at home at the time was her mother, who was in green aspiration status.  There was one bottle of smartmilk left in the dispenser, but the mom went to the regular fridge instead.  I thought smartmilk-feeding was allowed by the baby controller if either the toddler or the Sim making it was in gold or higher?  Or have I been mistaken all along in that?  (I still don't think this is Seasons-related, by the way.)

The sim making the smart milk must be in gold or platinum.  Otherwise there is a chance of them making red smart milk, which will make the toddler sick.  If the smart milk is already made, maybe in someone's inventory, it doesn't matter who feeds it then or what aspiration the toddler has.  It only matters for the sim who is actually making it.

Hacks I want:

1. Garden controller - In Soviet Russia, Gardens tend you!  :)
2. Makes Business controller compatible with plantsims (so they can dazzle like robots and perhaps also take care of their needs, take shower, stand under sun/lamp to recharge etc)
3. Sims autonomously take Leftover food from fridge instead of cooking new ones, and autonomously store leftover into fridge.

Thank you!!

Pescado already has gardening built into Macrotastics.  Have you seen it? 

I'd like to see the suggestions you made concerning leftovers as well.

That would make sense about the bottles.  All the adults on the lot were in green aspiration and were not able to feed the quads smart milk during that period (tending to quads = no time to get the meter up!).  I had the always smart milk function off, yet I did not realize that it was an autonomous action to make the milk anyway.  Yet even when I deleted the baby controller, the parents were still reaching toward the fridge until I had to delete the fridge!  Craziness...

Even with "no baby harassment," I find sims on free will want to feed the baby a bottle even when it's not hungry, because the sim is actually hungry and Maxis thought it was a good idea to advertise to sims that feeding the baby would satisfy their own hunger.  :P  So see if your sims are actually hungry themselves when they reach for a baby bottle.  I use Inge's bottomless bottle also so they can feed themselves if no parent is available.  The baby controller doesn't recognize it per se, but if the toddler quits skilling or whatever due to hunger, they will often reach for it autonomously. 

The game desperately needs a hack to burninate the "plants love me" behaviour. Plant sims randomly time out and start picking petals off of a flower (love me... love me not). It's retarded. And they do it ALL THE TIME.

I never thought of that as a reason for the sims force feeding bottles to babies, but now that you've pointed it out RT, I'll check for this next time I play.

That just sounds like noinstantloves though.  :-\

Pescado was the one who actually pointed it out awhile back.  I started noticing this too after that.  Also, they will bathe toddlers when they themselves need a shower, and they will talk and play with the baby/toddler when they are the ones that need socializing or fun.  So they aren't as selfless as you think.  ;)

I'll add my vote for a "Become a plantsim" potion of some sort, and to burninate the "Plants Love Me?" behavior.

Also, when playing the Greenman family, I noticed that whenever the adult sims didn't have me telling them what to do they'd default to bathing Daisy whether she needed water or not.

Wintermuteai1 at MTS2 already has some kind of object or potion that creates plantsims (I don't remember exactly what the object is, since I don't have Seasons yet and just cursorily glanced at the thread title). You may want to try looking there to see if it's what you had in mind.

Monique who posts on MTS2 and at InSim has a mod to turn a sim into a plant person and to stop one as well. You can find them both here: http://www.insimenator.net/forumdisplay.php?f=78

She has one that makes plantsims look normal too, if anyone is interested in that.

I have obviously not read this whole thread, it is much too long so sorry if someone has already mentioned this but I just got Seasons last night and really started playing today.

Water balloon fights + Servos =  Um why did they even allow Servos to have the action to do this?  Meh annoying Servos running amok.

Yeah it was already mentioned and you can fix it by stopping auto water balloon fights altogether by using a hack monique  has over at MTS2. Read the following quote from this thread:

There are two Seasons-related hacks/mods that I'd love to see. One, something that will tell the maids to put newspapers into the compost bin (if there's one on the lot) instead of the curbside rubbish, and two, something to make normal watering/raking/yardwork count towards a Gardening badge. My gardening sims do seem to find enough "proper" gardening to do to earn their badges in a fairly timely manner, but it just seems odd to me that watering a vine counts towards it, but then turning around to water the flowers right next to it doesn't.

Two things:

The waiterfix doesn't work for me anymore since Seasons.

jfade's hot tub hack doesn't seem to be working quite right on community lots.  The sim hops out  of the hot tub, bursts into flames and then runs away unharmed leaving the fire burning behind him.  this fire won't trigger the sprinkler and the fire dept has to be called in.

I agree with you. It's also annoying that one form of gardening gives them a huge boost to their fun score, while the other doesn't. The actions aren't really that much different.

That's why I labeled it as needing testing. :P I haven't had time to play with it in my own game yet, so I wasn't positive that it fixed it. I don't really think I want to make a final version of it now though at this point, considering temperature is basically completely borked anyhow. I'll wait for an awesome version of a temperature fix hack. :)

In what way is temperature borked?

So that's what testing means!  Really, I think I'll hold on to it for now.  At least my sims aren't dieing all  over the place.

I have to concur with the composting thing.  Makes getting papers actually worthwhile, but if you don't have your sim get to it before the maid...  (Can't we at least have this in macrotastics?  It's cheap!  We won't have to waste money on fertiliser for the crops!)

When i checked the badge juicer was not updated.

I haven't purchased Seasons yet, but I've been reading here and on the BBS to see what bugs people were having before I make the purchase.  On the BBS there are several complaints of actions dropping out of queue, and of children becoming cold enough for the social worker to arrive after a very short period of time outside.  I figure readers here are a more reliable source, so are these actually common problems?  Is the children's temperature problem caused by hacks as the overheating is believed to be? If these things are going on, and aren't caused by cc, I will avoid buying it until there is either a patch or mod to fix these things.  My large families will be unplayable if I have to play with free will off and micromanage everyone all the time, or play with it on and constantly have to re-assign actions.  And there's no point to snow at all if sims freeze before they even have time to enjoy it.

One thing im missing at the moment, is something as basic as a cupboard where i can store my produce. See, the juicer can only hold so many items, and transferring fruits and veggies from one generation of gardeners to the next is quite honestly a royal  pain in the rear...

It can atm either be done by stuffing as much fruit into the jucer as it can hold, then having the other char transfer it out, and repeat ad nauseum till the inventory is empty, or, it can be done as a gift, which means a gazillion mouseclicks, to mark the veggie, click on transfer, mark the next, transfer, mark the next, transfer etc....

A cupboard where you could stuff all your veggies and fruits in, in one go, and take out what you need, would make it so much easier on my poor non gardening sims.

The badge juicer has been partially updated. You can't increase it, but if you go to ..Set Badge Level, Gardening and Fishing are there.

I would like a mod that makes hungry Sims take leftovers from the fridge before they make a whole new meal. I have never seen autonomous left over taking, not even in child sims.

Can't speak to the freezing kids problem, tho I've had no issues at all since updating my hacks, but CC is giving me fits, causing dropped actions and stuck sims when I use some of the Seasons deco, and a custom car caused my graphics card to pass out and crashed me to a restart.  Never had a CC problem w/other EPs.  I'm nearly done finding the action drop culprit, and got rid of my CC cars.

I'd also love for sims to take leftovers out autonomously!

ditto to the harvest cabinet. It's annoying as all get out.

Nope, but Paladin over at http://www.simwardrobe.com/ has a hack that prevents the social worker from coming for that reason.

I'd also love a Harvest Cabinet of sorts, like they had in Sims 1? Where you could store your veggies? Though it worked more like a fridge, I'd like a place to keep veggies and fruits that isn't the refrigerator.

I so miss the Pantry from Unleashed! I'm having a great time with Seasons, but I'd love it if the produce they're spending so much time on could be stashed in a pantry for actual food points, instead of the nebulous "freshness" value it seems to count towards in the fridge (if I'm misunderstanding that, though, please feel free to mock correct me!).

I also really like the idea of encouraging sims to grab leftovers autonomously instead of cooking up a new plate of charred lobster thermidor (especially when they're barely even hungry! grr, that tendency has never ceased to annoy ;p). Barring that, though, I do wish they'd created an option to allow kids to get leftovers out of the fridge. I understand why they don't let children cook (simwise, that's just a huge kitchen fire waiting to happen, plus new animations they'd have to make), but "open door, grab plate" should be well within the range of a child's - even a SimChild's - capabilities. ;)

I could have sworn my simchild was able to get leftovers out. Will checktomorrow - maybe I had the teen get them out, but I really thought it was the kid.

I would like to see a no pranks hack, or at least an updated one. My sims are pranking each other all over the neighborhood left and right again.

sagana, I just tried again, and my SimKid now has the option to "Get Leftovers" from the fridge. At breakfast-time, his only choices were Snack or Check Food Supplies, but now that it's evening, he's allowed to grab the leftover Bass with Squash. Parents can grab any leftover at any time, though. Weird, huh?

Very. It was breakfast mine was having but I think I had some leftover omlettes (I know, eww) in there as well. Maybe it has to be the right kind for the time for the kids?

The food (except fishes) that you put in the fridge count as food points with the bonus for freshness on top. You can have fridge with 0 food points and 250 fresh food points : you'll be able to cook everything like normal.
I found out that food points depend on the quality of the vegetables/fruit. From worst to best, here are the food values I found in game :

Tomato : 1/2/3
Pepper : 1/2/3
Orange : 1/2/3
Lemon : 1/2/3
Apple : 2/4/6
Cucumber : 2/4/6
Strawberry : 2/4/6
Bean : 2/4/6
Eggplant : 3/6/9

I'm currently in the process of noting the differences between harvests in the different seasons, with compost, with fertilizer or without both. Might take some time, as I'm also playing my families for fun....
Pioupiou

Curiouser and curiouser... SimKid can now help himself to some leftover 'bass with squash' for a breakfast treat, so it looks like the "meal vs. time of day" thing wasn't it. No idea why he couldn't do it two days ago, but it's working now. Big what, small ever ???

pioupiou, thanks for the great info! I'll be sure to get my elder to stash his vast hordes of tasty tomatoes in the fridge before he gets buried with them... then again, he's spent so much time happily gardening away and chatting with his plants that it might be fitting to bury him with the produce he so loved ;)

I just want to echo several others in this thread, in pining for a food cabinet, or some modification that will allow food to be put in and taken out by the family. A pantry, storage cabinet.  Even a bread bin, who cares so long as it saves me from click, click, clicking on several thousand individual items to hand them over to another sim. 

It's two clicks per item too, the knuckle area of my Index finger is actually still a little sore - for real!

I don't understand why sim kids can't get leftovers autonomously, instead of getting the message that "Sharla is just skin and bones! You'd better feed this kid before the Social Worker takes her away!"  :P  I can tell her manually to go get them, but it seems like she could pull them out herself.  Just like they should be able to pour cereal or make a sandwich themselves.  This would be a great addition to Dizzy's Smart Serve hack. *hint hint*

Some more mods I'd be more than grateful for:

- Air conditioning mod: No temperature change due to indoor activities (I want my hottub parties back)
- No autonomous wearing coats: I'm fed up with sims changing into outerwear just to greet someone >:(.

And a food cabinet would be great, too :)

Or to take the trash out, or get the mail, etc.  How many people actually put boots, coat, hat, and gloves just to run out to the mailbox?  I suppose it depends on how cold it is and how far away the mailbox is, but if it's not far like in most of my sims' houses, it's hardly worth getting all dressed up.  :P

The warmth mod coming out soon will make it so that it will not be possible to overheat from any indoor activities, even if they do affect temperature. Warmth capping will also work correctly, reducing lag from random overlay application.

I think the latest APO included a patch to erase the stutter-warp effect when running through a door. It also eliminates the outerwear-check when doing the same. We're debating over whether or not to discontinue one of the disrecommended features on APO to seperate this out. In any case, it presently produces the effect where if you run through a door, no outerwear change will be performed. And who doesn't run everywhere, anyway?

Would you have to have APO set up in every house then?  Some of my sims are too poor to afford APO.  :P

No, it's a passive side effect of the portal BHAV, it affects all doors. This feature will probably be seperated out from APO (resulting in the "Death" option being discontinued, as killing sims in this manner, although amusingly therapeutic, really can no longer be recommended and is largely a relic of the old days before the horribleness was fully revealed. Plus the new Smite button on the Lot debugger is funnier.).

Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you! *pushes sheep thanks button*


I must try it out as soon as I get home - this continuous *swoosh* really drives me mad. Do I have to expect any conflicts with TJ's Visitor Controller?


Exactly :D

Well, I got rid of the "swoosh" effect with Monique's mod, but they still pause and change, which causes a noticeable lag in gameplay.

Oooooo, I hadn't noticed that one yet!  I'll have to check it out later. :)

I second those calling for a mod to keep the gardeners out of the vegetable garden -- or at least make it optional.  I like for them to come clip hedges on my heavily landscaped lots, but I don't want them going in the greenhouse or vegetable garden.  I like using the sprinklers, but use of the sprinklers and the gardener results in overwatered plants (s/he waters them whether they need it or not).  I also like tending the vegetables myself, to build gardening skills for my Sims.

Is Smite fatal or just extremely uncomfortable? As a Sim punishment tool, discomfort is good, but dead Sims are unable to learn anything. Unless resurrected. :)

Of course, this isn't a huge change from live Sims, who already seem incapable of learning much.

It's as fatal as the naturally-occurring version is or isn't.

APO stands for? Yeah yeah go ahead make fun of me not following but I've mulled this one over a few days and finally decided to be very unawesome and ask.

APO = Authorized Personnel Only

Now see that makes perfect sense.  ::) Thanks!

I'd like a mod that prevents the "Influence to... Serve Meal" interaction from randomly trying to serve Fish meals that aren't in the fridge.

i.e., my Sims are busy, so I use Influence a lot.  Now, with Seasons, the "Influence to... Serve Meal" can fail because the indentured serv-... I mean, influenced Sim walks up to the fridge, opens the door, then a dialog box pops up saying something like "You can't serve such-and-such Fish dish, because that Fish isn't in your fridge." (or whatever... you get the idea)

The new Seasons dishes simply shouldn't be available for the "Influence to... Serve Meal" interaction.  Or there should be a sanity check against the fridge's contents before the Sim tries to serve.

nochangingclothesatdoors.package  <--- dreams  ;D

I'm still begging for a hack to stop Simmies changing clothes everytime they go through a door. I'd rather select when they change clothes the old fashioned way. All this swishing is causing lag and its annoying the hell out of me! grrr (the non swish hack has no effect here)

I have requested this hack a few times on several sites and as yet no one has made a hack, is it because its not possible or too awkward?  I wish I knew how to do things like that. So I really hope one ofthe talented folks can make this hack.

Thanks for reading
xXx

JM has a hack that stops that and it was talked about earlier in the thread. I'm to lazy at the moment to find the quote but check out his hacks and you'll find the no unneeded coats hack. Here: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?topic=7517.0
Wow I had a nice moment.

Read the full thread as it doesn't stop it from EVERY time but it does help. So to fully understand it read all the posts.

Im not sure if its been asked, but its driving me mental that you can't fit all the fruit and veg in to the juice stock. :(

Look in peasantry--jfade just made a cool super-expando juicer. It holds like 300 items now.

 :D
BAAH!! BAAAAAH!!

I really wanted to use that one, but it conflicts with Pescado's sshack.

I have only just started playing Seasons so I haven't seen it happen yet, but I don't like the reports that the kids are outside and freeze too quickly to get them inside before the social worker comes.  That would make me sad if that happened. 

AFAIK, I don't think the sshack covers the temperature neglect possibility, but I would rather have the other features it provides, so I guess I'll just have to keep Pescado's in and risk it.

Seconded. Also, Squinge's no-autonomous-cooking hack doesn't work.

Have you tested them together, and if so, tried switching the order they load in?

Well - the conflict utility by Paladin shows them as conflicting and yes - in some cases a different load order does make a difference with other hacks, but Paladin's hack only contains and changes one BHAV (called Function-Update). 
That is the BHAV that conflicts with Pescado's.  (Obviously)
When the game loads the two mods, it doesn't pick and choose different lines of the BHAV, right? 
It only chooses one full BHAV over the other, right? 
Loading Pescado's hack last would be the same as not having Paladin's hack in at all because Pescado's BHAV would cancel out Paladin's BHAV (which is the only thing in Paladin's hack)
 
On the flip side, loading Paladin's last would make us lose Pescado's school grade tweak in that BHAV (where the Social worker only comes if more than half the kids are failing). 
Pescado does have two other BHAVs he changed in his and I know that those will always work in spite of the load order.  But it's the BHAV called Function-Update that is the main part of the hack.

I feel kind of stupid all of a sudden - am I completely misunderstanding load order and how it's handled and why we use it sometimes?

Heh, I doubt it.  I asked because I know you're a much more advanced modder than I am.  XD  But if I understand your explanation, it sounds like you could load Paladin's hack last and get the temperature aspect at the cost of the grade effect from sshack, but preserving everything else sshack does.  Am I right?

XD - I feel like a such newbmodder in the presence of JM and TJ. 
But to answer your question, yep - that is exactly what it seems to be, as far as I can tell. 

I just really like the school grade aspect of Pescado's mod...I think having the social worker come and grab all the kids for one child's failing grade is rather harsh.  Maybe I'll be lucky and not have any frozen/heat-related social worker visits in my game.  Unfortunately, now I'm going to be all paranoid about letting the kids play outside.   ;D   The stress of sim-parenting!
 

Would it be possible to combine the two?

I don't mind so much my sims putting coats on and off evertime they open the door but it is really driving me crazy that the ghosts on my legacy lot are doing it.  I guess they are afraid they can freeze to death and die twice??

The current version of no unneeded coats should quash this behavior. Ghosts should no longer have this bizarre compulsion.

Amber: I looked at the code quickly today and it has lots of tests for things that I don't understand without taking the time to think about it. (I am in-between college courses right now and I am currently on a "thinking vacation")
I couldn't even see the test where Paladin checked for temperature neglect.  I compared the main BHAV in both mods and then looked at the original BHAV that came with the game and ...bleh... 

Once you get past the initial part of trying to figure out what all the tests are for, a personal "mod tweak"/"mod merge" would probably work. (Oh goodness...does it offend modders when we talk about tweaking their mods?)  ???  (lol - "tweaking their mods" ... sounds dirty) 

Anyway, I guess once the temperature code can be deciphered in Paladin's BHAV, it can just be added to the BHAV in Pescado's mod.  It would be easier that way instead of trying to merge it the other way around.  Pescado has more features so his mod should probably remain the base mod.  But, I don't know.  J.M. is a mod king and I am a lowly peasant. 
Blech - my homeworksometimes mod was soooo much easier than this. And fun, too.  Because homework is fun and I'm a nerd.

Of course, if Mr. Pescado would care to just add the temperature feature to his mod, that would save me lots of time and I can go back to my thinking vacation.  ;D

Thanks for the link.  I just had to quit without saving from a game because I couldn't get my child to stop building a snowman.

Speaking of which, I'd like a mod to make sims just stop building snowmen when I cancel the action.

Does the same apply to Townies?  For purely aesthetic reasons I find it annoying that they never seem to appear on residential lots wearing any outerwear.


Is variability in day length through the seasons something we can look forward to then?  I hope so regardless of whether the motivation is long days or eternal darkness.

One request I haven't seen mentioned is the possibility of planning a sims wardrobe according to the season.  It would be more realistic to see a sim wearing a t-shirt/shorts as everyday in th esummer and a sweater/jeans in the winter etc.  Is this possible as a mod that would apply to all dressers, or even to one customised one?

I'd love to see that also - it annoys me to no end that here I have a fridge full of leftovers (most of which I took the time to put into the firdge as individual plates, not serving platters),  and the kids, on the very rare occasions they do grab food autonomously from the fridge, they get cookies or chips, not leftovers. Okay granted with a lot of kids that actually is more realistic... I'd rather they grabbed leftovers! I can remember snacking on leftovers quite happily as a kid, after all (mmm, leftover chili or spagetti made into jaffles...)

I also think hungry adults should grab leftover food in preference to cooking new meals when they do autonomous hunger-fulfilling.

Leftovers are kinda nasty, you know. For one, they've gone all stale and cold. They no longer bleed properly. In my family, we eat our kills on the spot. If there's a lot of it, we eat until we go into a food coma. Then we don't eat at all for a day or two.

I'd really like a cold shower option for hot days.

Also, not exactly Seasons related but, I'd like all dogs to be able to attack/chase/growl at burglars, unless they are cowardly dogs. What good are watchdogs if they don't do anything when an intruder shows up?

Cowardly dogs will attack, growl and bark at intruders too.  My Bandit is the cowardly dog out of our four, scared silly of kids, but if one comes near her they better watch out!  A scared dog is more likely to bite I think.  She turns into all hackles and growls and barks, and has actually snapped at my nephew for getting too close.  Which is why I keep her away from any kids unless I can trust the kids to sit quietly until she gets used to them. 

Is anybody else experiencing problems with their Sims getting colds? I just moved a new couple into a lot in Springtime, and they start coughing. A few minutes later, the "Alyssa has a cold!" message pops up. They're fine for a while after I cure them with orange juice, but a few minutes later, they start coughing and the message pops up again. This stupid influenza has been driving me nuts.  >:(

I had some random sneezing in the spring, with no messages. It was a relief. Although, if it's as hard to kill sims with colds as it's been historically, then I'm not worried.

I had something funny happen.  I was trying to see how long it would take to freeze sims and what would happen.  Well, they froze and I got the message that one of them was sick with a cold and needed to take it easy, etc.  I had free will off and the game on high speed, and I didn't do anything special, but a short while later, I got the message that the sim was healthy again!

That's the "Spontaneous Plague" at work. Get the Warmth Fixes, it should stop these random events.

I got 'em now, but that was funny to see.

I agree! I do gardening irl and it is hard work!


I whole heartedly agree w/the outerwear issue. It driving me nuts to see townie coworkers come home w/my sim in the winter w/nothing but a pair of pants and a tank t-shirt on!

I would also love to see a mod to adjust the length of days according to the season and also for sims to wear appropriate clothing w/o you having to go to the dresser and constantly change them yourself.

I got the mod, but the diseases still keep coming. My Sims even got a cold in the Summer.

I'd kill for a bottomless fridge or a fridge that automatically fills itself using lot funds [to be slightly more realistic]. I'm tired of families with 4 or more members having to shop every other day. grr.

I think Inge's always-full fridge patch still works...

Yes, it does.  I wouldn't play without it.

:P I actually like how our Sims have to go grocery shopping once in a while; it makes the game much more realistic.

Different playing styles, I guess.

It is possible to contract the plague at work, and it may still be cold during the summer. Outdoor temperature is not clearly indicated anywhere in the game and therefore there is no obvious way to tell what it is. However, if you have the fixes installed, sims will not have spontaneously generated plague, so someone else passing by with the plague must have caused it.

The shopping would be less of a nuisance if it didn't entail long loading times for lot transitions, such as if the sim would simply drive off lot and return shortly with the goods and less money. Let's face it: The two main factors of deterrance to community lot visitation is motive disruption and 5+ minute loading times for the trip.

The visitors passing by all had colds, so that may have partially caused it. Also, I realized I installed both your warmth fix and DJ's hot-tub-isn't-hot mod. :P Blegh. The colds stopped coming after I removed it.


In that case, the 'Deliver Groceries' option comes in handy. I think you might have to pay a delivery fee, but my Sims are rich enough anyway. There should be more possibilites of bankrupting a family or something.

I think so too. as it is now you can atleast make sims have a negative amount of money with the familyfunds cheat  ;D

Or by having them spawn a gazillion little selves and force them to pay child support for each one (Monique's mod, no work involved). Twins helps.

hmm how about  hack to speed up the time it takes for plants to grow.

I think I finally figured out what i would like - that hasn't already been so awesomely attended to.

I would LOVE to be able to grow/tend/spray/harvest FLOWERS and HERBS. I'm tired of veggies and would love to sell a bunch of basil or dahlias. Can you imagine how sparkly the food would be then?

On a related note...is there any way to make the strawberry plants LOOK like strawberry plants, the cucumber plants look like cuc plants, etc? I hate that everything looks like pole beans or tomatoes.

Okay, okay, I'm probably asking for more realism than Maxis can provide, I know...I just....sigh...long for more perfection in the idyllic world of Seasons....

TIA

I can't believe there's not a way to use existing animations to do that. Cutting could be tending veggies, and there's an animation for carrying a vase of gift flowers, right? I wish I knew how to do this. Seasons is the first EP that makes me want to learn how to mod! I'm going to do a couple of things once I'm less busy.

See, that's what happens when you consort with the plagueridden, rather than confining them to leper colonies as is proper.

I use that, yes. It never seems to show up at the time you need them, though, which is usually "Yesterday". I usually wind up replacing the fridge because I need it NOW, not 4 hours from now.

No eat crap should work with a hack that would cause sims to put their half-a-plate of uneaten sparkly food back in the fridge.

Also, I wish you could check the weather report on the computer. Because that's how people do it IRL.

how about a mod for when they autonomously take out the garbage it runs a check for a compost on the lot and brings it there instead.
yes i know i'm am teh suck ...i leave free will on most of the time.

Not sure if it's been mentioned (kick me if that's the case), but it's a pain in the arse when sims put a perfectly good plate of half eaten food in the dishwasher instead of in the fridge as leftovers!

Yes, I play with free will on, but having to watch a sim like a hawk while they're eating and cancelling the 'put food in dishwasher' action is starting to shit me. I have noeatcrap, but I don't know if that's supposed to help in this case.

I just mentioned it!!! Look two posts above. I feel you!  :D

Oh ffs!!  :-[ 

*aussieone bends over  :P

ROFL!  Well, you know what they say, great minds and all that...

Maybe I'm just missing it, but is there a macro/Harvest option? I like using the Business/Be Farmer, but it (naturally) does not automatically harvest (since you may want to sell veggies and not harvest them). But a macro/Harvest or macro/Sell option that would harvest or sell all ripe fruits and veggies would be awesome, since my Legacy family has their garden in a greenhouse, and I can't always tell what is ripe and what is not. It's a bit of an annoyance to have to click each type of plant to see if it's ripe yet, because the greenhouse walls are blocking the view.

I've noticed that when sims are fishing on community lots, their fishing skill rises as usual, but they don't keep anything they catch in their inventory. Is this fixable?

They don't? I thought they DIDN'T gain fishing skill, which was fixed in the recent comm-skilling update, but I saw no code pertaining to the non-keeping of fishes. Did you leave your neighborhood file open in SimPE, thus preventing the inventory from being written?

Would it be possible to make practice piano playing fun again? This had been fixed once, but is broken again since seasons.

Does the old fix not work anymore?

I wasn't aware that problem was EVER fixed despite Maxian claims to the contrary, and the fix is thus still current.

I have the comm-skilling installed - which would explain the skill building - and no exotic hacks that I can think of.

The lot was an owned community lot, where I brought and adult (not the owner) and two kid sims. When one of them caught the first boot, I checked its inventory and it was empty. At that time I was hoping their inventory would be "fixed" when returning home.

I waited long enough for the bronze badge, at which time all three had caught enough fish for a whole week, or so I thought. When they returned home, I re-checked the inventory and it was still empty. :(

And I never run SimPe or other heavy program while playing the sims.

That mod was beta anyhow and I never released it cause everyone and their dog were making warmth/cold changes, (plus I wanted an official awesome version) but I don't see how it would conflict with Pescado's mod, unless his mod also edits the Relax BHAV from the hot tub semi-globals.

 :P :-*  Hi Pescado

I was wondering if u could possibly do more choices of veggies/fruits as I would like 2 have more of a choice, I know 6 plot choices and 3 trees r plenty but u know what us sim addicts r like, we always want MORE MORE MORE! ;) ;D 

Ta muchly

I totally support this request, just imagine what a full harvest of poisonous mushrooms can do for your game! ;D

Ooh, nanny food :big evil grin:

The produce grower is firmly non-modular and does not lend itself to modification.

1. The matter of finances is greatly unrealistic in the game, and many of us are already bored with gorgeous mansions, private bowling alleys and Ferraris in every newlywed couples' home. Perhaps much could be changed with an (optional) simple hack. Let me explain.

I'd really like to have a "hardfistedEmployers" aka "noPromotionBonuses" mod, as a good pair for no20Khandouts (that is one of the best hack ideas if you ask me - thank you, JM!). Or at least a reduced bonus, perhaps around 25% of the new salary? This would reduce the cheatish way "get a job, go up the ladder quickly, then quit and get another job or start all over" of playing, that I admittedly do too - just because it's hard to find motivation to keep one career, if the best career is to always change the jobs. (I know I can deduct the bonus with FamilyFunds, but it's not the same).

A new family or lonely sim/ university graduate, as for now, is a challenge and fun to play only for the first 1-2 sim-weeks. After that, the astronomical promotion bonuses give to sim/family too much of money too easy too soon. This hack would make the sims really work hard (and caffeinate or energise or juice-ise) after their dayjob - they should paint/write, garden/fish, produce/serve or have private/home businesses etc., in order to afford a better life for themselves and for the children. Also, it would make them to choose between skilling, socializing and resting for faster promotions, or doing more side-job at home or private business for better life sooner. This again would make the career advancement slower and more realistic, as they simply have no time for fulfilling the mandatory requirements.

Also, it would give some sense for college years, as a good and free time to skill and socialise for the future life. Together with noAgeDiscrimination, it would as well create a more realistic situation, where people can really start to "live off" and have more expensive houses and stuff only when they reach their senior years and are already sick and frail. ;D Perhaps some young parents would find it even more comfortable to dump their children on grandparents to raise up (the daughter moves in with a child, then reconciles with the husband and moves back with him, "forgetting" the child to her parents). Or the adult children would have a good reason to whine until they have some expensive gifts from Gramps ("Mom, little Pete really NEEEEDS a new bed, and I know that you CAN afford! And while on that subject, I really NEEEEEED a new Ferrari, too, to impress and have the promotion!"). This way, the hard-earned money of the seniors would have a good use, and the grandparents could end up broke, selling the house and moving on a 6K lot, finally dying with nothing to hand down to other children, as it is often IRL. :P It would also foster the social inequity between those who have living parents and those who have not. And social inequity is a Good Thing, I believe JM agrees on that. ;)

Also, marrying/moving in with another sim, rich or not, would be a great financial relief, as it is IRL, too. The college graduates would be forced to start their life as roommates, especially if they had not much (or at all) scholarships, college semester bonuses or rich parents - because alone they can't afford even the minimal house of few thousands.

Last but not least, it would - as we all like it! - stop the happy careless childhood of the children and teens, and make them rather a free labor for their parents, preventing to have all 7 skills maxed out already in the mid-teen, because the children had instead to fish, garden and paint their asses off in the sun, rain and snow. The children who work have no time for stupid things like teenage crushes, dating or crappy jobs outside the home. When in college, there would be enough time to catch up the skills, or perhaps at the end of the semester to produce/create something that would accumulate the money for independent life after college. (I hate it that I skill the teens up for 8 points in everything, and then they have big scholarships and no skills to develop in college or after).

I understand that people have different styles of playing, therefore it could possibly be a buyable object rather than just a mod, that many might catch inadvertently with Director'sCut. If it is not technically possible to remove the bonuses, then what about adding the amount of the bonus to the next bill, as an income tax? This would create the tension of the temptation to spend the immediate money, even though you know, that a big bill is coming or already about to become overdue... sort of a credit card trap, or an investment loan if you use it wisely and can pay back in time.  :P Repo Men, whom I have never seen, would become good acquaintances, or one should often sell the few days old expensive bed for little money and sleep on the floor, just to buy it later back for full price.

Obviously, also the chance card monetary bonuses should be reduced the same way (directly or via bills/tax). I don't know if it's possible. But the 50 000 awards are really injust - you can ask the relatives or neighbours, they will say the same!

Edit: Now if I think, perhaps the finacial bonus just for the final promotion would be good to remain as it is now, because it would make reaching the top of career more fervently waited for (Daddy got the promotion, daughter can go to college). The many aspiration points we might receive now (through the respective Want or LTW) are not motivating enough - for the time we reach the top, we have already more than enough of them.

2. A College Entrance Fee, to be paid once from parents's pockets when a teen of the family goes to college. It could be quite expensive (10 000?), perhaps less for public school students (4000?) and more for Private School students, assuming that the latter go to more expensive colleges. The lonely teens should create a business or something, otherwise no college. If there is no money accumulated enough by the family, the teen is prevented to "go to college" and grows up to be an adult with modest prospects (like one who has no high grades enough). This would reduce the temptation to send the teens to college in their mid-teenage time. Also, it would make the teens to forget the joys of child-/teenhood and work for their college fee already since entering the elementary school, instead of accumulating all skill points and 150 000+ aspiration points by the time they go to college. That makes college years and new life as an adult very unchallenging for those who are born in game. Only work and no play is good for your child, because it prevents the teen pregnancies, drugs and piercings!

3. In Macrotastics, I'd be happy to have, if possible, the "Bake Stuff" macro for children. Since the toy oven costs just 100 and the muffins come for free (probably they get the instant flour mix from social services office, that makes sense), exploiting the children as the muffin-winners could help the poor family w/children over the worse times, without any need for other kind of kitchenware. The muffin is one of the lowest Hunger Efficiency foods, taking long time to eat and giving only low satisfaction.
As for now, it's highly annoying to Bake/Get Food manually for all the family - you only can watch the baking child. Btw, the muffins should probably be placed on the floor nearby, since I assume they cannot "make many" and put them in inventory.
PS. I don't remember what was the thing with ContinuousPainting. I think that if it would be possible, it would already be a macro in Macrotastics, right? It doesn't even have to include taking care of the needs, just simple paint/sell/paint/sell would be enough.

4. A Wallet. I.e. an object like the Money Order letter now, that one could add the funds to from family funds, and place it in one's inventory (and it would not lose the value over time). The use is very obvious. But I suspect that if it would be possible, Pescado would have already made it. :S

Edited: minor corrections.

(I'm not going to quote from that manifesto :))

1) are you using harderjobs?  That removes most of the uni job bonus, so they don't start almost at the top of their career.

4) Monique's computers over on MTS2 already have a 'bank account' function where you can dump money into individual accounts.

Thanks for your reply and pardon my manifesto... :D

Yes, thanks, I am using it. But with really good mood / all motives full (plan well or go to Energizer just before going to job), they will anyway get the promotions practically every single day. :( I am easily challenged, so I try to go through the career as quickly as possible, but I'd like it to be more impossible due to the practical reasons.
Yes, but the problem is that if you remove the Downloads folder (for patching, upgrading etc), EVEN if you put it back before restarting the game, the Monique's bank accounts get reset. The simple object in inventory would be so much easier - no need to remember to whom the money belongs - it belongs to the one who has the wallet. Every salary/semester bonus etc. cold be put in the wallet of the respective sim, and thus prevent the confusions with splitting the money when the sims graduate in different times or the roommates with different monetary contribution move out to live separately.

Thanks anyway.  :)

You know, a wide variety of objects exist in any number of denominations. Just buy one and stick it in your inventory. Why make this harder than it needs to be?

Easy solution:

1) backup your hoods
2) remove downloads (if you must -- I never do -- I only remove the hacks I know won't be compatible)
3) patch/add ep/whatever
4) restore downloads and restart the game
5) exit the game and restore your backed-up hoods

That keeps the tokens from getting wiped out.


Yup; another easy solution. :) Many a uni student brought home an expensive TV or two to preserve their funds before I discovered Monique's computers...

Because of the simple reason: except the most expensive sculptures, the other things lose in their value. So for instance in the college, I can't save up for the house - the money goes to the common kettle, and if the sims are making some other money apart the bonuses, it is soon a mess and nobody knows who owns how much.

As for now, I keep manually the book (write it down in their Biography and add the sum every time they earn something, but this is very annoying way). It would be great just to take the wallet, add the money, and put it back to pocket.

I didn't have any problems with sims bringing fish home in their inventory from a community lot.

My sims autonomously take the trash to the composter, too. In fact, they do this every time, and never just throw it out anymore. I think they should compost the garbage as long as the composter is closer than the garbage can on the curb.

Thanks, so at least there is a way to keep the tokens. :) I'll make use of it.

Edit: The clear disadvantage of the money computer is the long time it wastes to use it.  :(

Offset by the advantages of buying clothes, electronics, and other stuff online, saving the loading time of going to a comm lot.  Oh, and the ability to skill on anything, including all the badges, so a sim can use away-from-business time to improve register, stocking, sales, and the like.

It may not be awesome, but Monique's computers are one of my must-haves now.

While in the inventory the items do not lose value.

...That's what the Low Food Warning hack is for...

Well, it must have been fixed somehow, because my sims definitively had fun practicing before I installed seasons...

The Piano isn't always not-fun. Initially, the piano remains fun until about 24 hours without the object being reset, after which the attributes are corrupted with garbage and the piano ceases to be fun.

I see - so what will reset the piano? Would be leaving and re-entering the lot enough?

Yeah, that'd be nice! And speaking of noeatcrap, I think it might need an update for Seasons - almost all my sims, regardless of neatness/slobbiness, are eating beyond when their bar is 100% full and then standing up and getting fat. This seems to happen only with the sparkly food, so I'm guessing totally at random that the extra food value of "fresh" meals is missing from the calculations about how much they can actually safely eat without exploding out of their clothes?

I think Shift-click + "Force Error" should suffice.

Isn't noeatcrap dependent on how active a sim is? I rarely play sims with less than 6 active points, and they all stop eating as soon as their hunger bar is full, no matter if sparkling food or not. I have noticed that lazy sims (say, 4 active points or less) have now a higher chance of overeating, though, even with non-sparkling food.

Good idea - i'll try that  :)

That's right, active is the determining factor here, and it presently works fine in the most recent versions.

I noticed last night that some of my pianos weren't being fun any more.  Force Error didn't work.  I had to buy new.

And pianos were fun in my game again after the patch that was supposed to have fixed it eons ago.  I was just wondering if they had broken it again, myself.  Or if some hack I recently added was causing them to not be fun any more.  But I think the only thing I added before I noticed they weren't fun is lesswhiny.

And I think they were still fun in some of the houses I had played last week, or I would have had to replace them.  So it may just be something about these lots.

You should get JM's pianos fix.

snowyrat,

Squinge has a painting that keeps tract of how many best freinds, money, dates, whoohoos, etc at:

http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=7139

 It seems to me that you could just click the painting to get their initial starting amount & then when the are ready to leave check it again & whatever the difference s, is what they actually made.

There's actually 3 different things affecting "indoorsness". The first is the TS2-original "room's 0x01", which determines classical "indoorsness", which is what affects vampires. The second two were added during Seasons: room's 0x07, which appears to determine temperature exposure, and a LUA function, which seems to determine whether you get pelted by hail. Attic space "roofing" appears to create a proper "classical" seal, and appears to block the hail, but does not provide the temperature. I guess it's not insulated. The workaround for this involves replacing the "ends" with a standard straight wall.

Boy, you'd think dealing with what constitutes indoors and what constitutes outdoors would be first priority in an expansion that's all about weather.  Between this and floor tiles not being recognized as a roof, a lot of Sims are going to be hurting when it rains or snows.  :p

I'm pretty sure floor tiles ARE recognized as a roof, given that I've explicitly exploited this in several buildings.

Hmm, thought I read somewhere recently (MTS2?) that people were having trouble with rain and snow indoors in buildings with floor-tile roofs.
/me wanders off to look for the thread.

Yeah, here we go.  Apparently some people are getting the problem with floor tiles on an angle only and some are having it even with flat floor-tile roofs:

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?p=1601693#post1601693

Not sure which you're asking about, but nodormiregen can be found in Pescado's director's cut, and no friends for careers is by TwoJeffs, found in his forums here.

There are some hacks that Pescado has that reduce (if not eliminate) the autonomous performing -- I think 'nobuskers' is one of them.  All found in his forums or the director's cut.  And Monique over on MTS2 has a hack that stops them from autonomously playing the instruments period if their creativity is already maxed out.

I was using pianofix before the EA patch that fixed it, but took it out when I found that the patch worked.

So I tried something last night after posting that.  Went into a lot, had a teen start to play the piano, and the fun level started dropping.

Took out lesswhiny, just in case of a conflict somewhere.  No change, fun still dropped.

Took out ALL hacks.  Teen, now reset and standing by the piano, dropped a busker and started performing, which increased the fun level.  Had him quit and practice instead.  Fun level dropped.

Put all hacks back in and added pianofix.  Fun level dropped.

Bought a new piano.

I also had another lot that I just decided to go ahead and replace the piano without even trying to see if it was fun.  I got the "Object can not be deleted with something on it or in it" message, (on a piano?!) so I used moveobjects to get rid of it.  Had the same thing happen in the next house, and I just happened to notice a busker sitting by it.  I've used nobuskers practically since JM first put it up, so I have no idea where it came from.

And in one house where I didn't replace the piano and no one played it, the season didn't change to fall during the 18 or so sim hours I played that lot.  It has in all the others within 6 or 8 hours, so I'm not sure it it's the piano itself that's just plain buggy, or if it's because these are very old lots that may have some corruption creeping in.

one of my sims bought the red  barn store and went there in winter and half the store floor was covered in snow.  I would think that the upper floor would prevent the lower floor getting covered but it didn't.  One mod I would like to see is a no penguin sign.  I'm tired of mopping penguin pee and my daughters say that the penguin can steal fish straight out of your inventory.  Even when I shoo them they're back in an hour or so

Theo - fish caught on owned lots go into the owner's inventory.

You will have to build an unowned lots for your sims to catch fish on.  Then they should bring it home.

Thinking this over, it's possible the fish you caught just went poof.  Since you weren't playing the owner, they may not have gone into his inventory.  I'm thinking of the way played lots work when you visit them.  They reset each time.  You can buy something, leave, and come back to find the same thing back up for sale.

If you remember, check the owner's inventory next time you play.  It would be very cheat-y exploit-y if we could fill someone's inventory with fish this way.

PC-Sims.com has a "Banking" mini-expansion (all free) that might do what you're looking for. http://www.pc-sims.com/smb/showthread.php?t=5528 Particularly the "bankbook" item. I haven't used any of those items yet, but their army mini-ep amused me. Many many creative hacked objects at this site indeed.

I'm having trouble with the Pleasantview condos that have floortile roofs.

I had a fellow get hit by lightning while he was in the bathtub in Don Lothario's place. Then awhile later, I got a warning message telling me that this building has no roofs, and my sims would soon be paying the price.

There were no rain puddles indoors though.

I haven't observed any penguin pee. To me, the penguin has been nothing but a cute and harmless critter.

well he pees every time he's on my lot.  The Prima guide says he shows up for snow or fish on the lot and if there's a golden trout anywhere on the lot and if you feed him he'll pee I haven't fed him but he still pees

The EA patch did not "work", far as I can tell, given that the main routines which ate the pianos in the first place was unchanged, but removal of the piano hack wouldn't break it immediately: The EA code corrupts the attributes over time.

Once a piano becomes corrupt, it may not be repairable unless you replace it completely.

The penguin should only pee when a sim pets it, and in my game it's been pretty rare even then.  I haven't noticed the penguin stealing fish from the inventory, it does eat fish you put on the ground, and it will try to reach fish on the wall (and always fail), that I know for sure.

Thought of something else I'd like to see, and if it's already been mentioned in this thread, I apologize, I just missed it.

I would like to have a "stock all" option when you're stocking the fridge with your produce, so you don't have to click the arrow button 400 individual times.

I would like the opposite - a hack that permits you to call a penguin at any time.  (Actuallly, I'd want a mod that lets you make a pet out of the penguin, but that is probably complicated.)

I have an additional request to my earlier 'children and adults automatically get leftovers from fridge' - customers on owned lots can get leftovers.

It would be a great advantage on several of my pay to stay lots.

Anything involving a dialog cannot be made autonomous, unfortunately, because the dialog would interrupt things.

A sensible and wholy unsatisfactory answer.

*sigh*

Ah, well - who was it who said "By bringing to llight that which is IMpossible we also give definition to that which IS possible"? - probably somebody who never played The Sims.

I don't think you've entirely grasped how aggravating it would be if Sims *DID* autonomously get leftovers. Firstly, they'd do it constantly, just like they obsessively make lobster or all the other food-related obsessiveness which makes them eat when not hungry. So they'd constantly do it. In the middle of something, a big obnoxious dialog pops up. Your immediately response is "Hey! No! Quit that!". You X it out. Naturally, the sim decides to do it again, having not found satisfaction with his first attempt. In the sadistic way Maxis has, rather than waiting 15 minutes to decide on doing it again like normal, he does it immediately, before you can tell him to do anything else. The dialog returns. It will drive you nuts. You will complain. I will be like, "I told you so!". Giving a sim the ability to autonomously pause the game is Not A Good Idea.

The Lobster Thermadore thing is infuriating, why do they do it?  Why can't they just make something to eat that will just fill their hunger level instead of the stupid Lobster.  I've had sims that aren't hungry in the slightest go make it, I cancel it out and they try to do it again.  You're full already you stupid sim, aargh!

Lobster has some interesting attributes to it. Firstly, it's STRONGLY advertised as the "best" food...and it ALMOST appears that way, on paper, as I discovered when doing the new Macrotastic food identifier. However, due to a combination of factors, the reality is that lobster fails to deliver on its promosed 150+ FPV and actually delivers only 100-odd, which is quite poor. Macrotastics performs the relevant analysis to find the Truth when choosing a Food. However, DEFAULT food autonomy is basically totally arbitrary and random and makes no attempt to prevent busting.

Default food autonomy sucks, Macrotastics FTW!  :)

Me and you both!!!!  It doesn't matter if the sim is not playful at all or not.  It just doesn't LOOK right when someone in a ballgown or a tux decides that it would be just the PERfect time to whip out a water balloon and wing it at the bride...

<sigh>

Wyn

Wha....??? Something's wrong with this?

(http://gethanesims.prismbaby.com/images/weddingballoon.jpg)

Can I just say I would love a "Run in out of the rain/storm/hail/" mod? I mean, seriously, you don't just stand around outside in a downpour with lightening striking all around. :o

Jron, I've been known to run outside to stand in a downpour when a thunderstorm arrives.  I love thunderstorms :)

Actually my best bonk ever was outside in a lightning storm. Then a hot bath after. Lovely. (Well, thinks, it was in the best top ten anyway). ;)

I apologize if this has been discussed before.  I looked through the posts and didn't see anything about it. 

I'm waiting for someone to come up with a mod that helps the sims learn to skate faster.  I mean, my goodness, its fun at first watching them fall on their rumps the first hundred times, but after a while you think they would get the hang of it sometime.  Poor things.  One sim said his version of some not nice words (at least that's what it sounded like to me, and probably something i would have said myself after the tenth fall) and left the rink.  I couldn't get him on the rink again.

Isn't skating affected by their body skill level?

I can't really gauge at all how long it takes a Sim to learn to skate, since every time I finally get sick enough of that damned ice skating Want to send them to the rink, they do a quick half-lap then wander off to try to pet the screaming cat who's shredding the bench across the lot. Smeesh. Attention deficit much?!

I was using macro -> concentrate when I had simkids skating yesterday.  Once they were concentrating I didn't see any ADHD.  They only stopped because I cancelled the action to bring them inside to cool them down.

Sounds like you'd benefit from a combination of No ADHD with macro Concentrate.

I've had a bad experience yesterday and I wish there'd be a hack against it. That happened:
A mother served apple juice for the kids so they can do their homework faster. A Servo is with the family. He used a moment when I wasn't watching and he put the plate with the aple juice glasses into the dishwasher! Man I was so upset about this I moved out that pesky robot.
What's also annoying is the fact that a Servo puts away a second cup of Espresso. I often serve Espresso but it's mostly of no use when there's a Servo in the house.

Try "coffeecuphack" and "noservodochores".

Speaking of juice. Why is it that sims can put plates after plates of easily perishable dishes with food in their backpocket, and magically keep them fresh? Stuff cars, fish, beds and bars there, but arent able to stuff the remaining juice in the inventory for later use?

Just means that each and every portion of juice has to be drunk fast, or its serve your self only. Annoying.

/edit: Grammar and Periods are my friends... I think.... :P ??? :P

I agree.  Definitely not worth serving apple juice so that a child can do homework faster.  By the time an apple tree has grown 18 apples, the kid is probably ready to go to uni.  I haven't even bothered to make any apple juice, let alone have a teen or older sim serve some for a child.

Technically, that's not really the main concern. You could always just farm the apples in advance. The real issue is that in the time it would take to actually drink the apple juice, you'd have finished the homework anyway. Clearly this is some kind of feelgood snakeoil for people who can't figure out how to get sim-homework done without a hissyfit in the first place. Not for people who know how, or have figured out how to mash "macro.../do homework".

Served juice remains permanently fresh, I think. I've kept a tray of that boot juice around for some time now. I like how juices fulfill the sims' hunger completely, and doesn't make them gain unnecessary weight.

At least in my game, the juice stays fresh for a long while, 3 days or more, but, dissapears after those 3 days.
Not as in somebody removes it, cleans it up or whatever, but as in poof, no more juice.

Ive been using APO on my kitchen to prevent sims from eating lobster all the time, and to prevent them from cleaning up perfectly good juice.
And since they cant come in, and i dont have maids hired, and i havent been using the macro / clean, then it must have gone poof.

I guess I should have been more clear then and said "Normal" people Don't,

 ;D   ;)

I was struck by lightening though, so I  have an aversion to my Sims standing out while it flashes around them. lol

What did it feel like? What happened?

I just want the babies to STOP CRYING all the time. I already went through colic in Real Life. I do NOT want it in a game. One of the Maxoids at the game site says it'll be fixed in a patch, but I want it fixed NOW. :'(

<mumble mumble>
Fed up with hearing kids scream for no reason ???

It's so bad I can't tell when they're screaming FOR a reason and got a Social Worker warning yesterday Sheesh!

Disgruntled Family Sim

For the time being, use the baby controller if you don't already. Plus I've been making my babies selectable and just yanking their bars up manually till this is fixed.

I'm quite proud of the fact that I'm not normal ;)  It's a family joke that whenever we want to insult each other my adult kids and I call each other "normal".


The closest I've come was when my house was struck by lightning.  Loudest noise I've ever heard, and the lights flickered off then back on again.  My son was about 3 or 4 at the time, and I'd just put him to bed.  The corner of the house the lightning hit was the one closest to his bedroom.  Throughout his childhood I'd tell him he didn't need to be worried that lightning would hit the house again as "lightning never strikes the same place twice", and that it had already struck our house.  This worked through several moves.

Getting back to topic: many people do enjoy being out in the rain or during storms, so it's not unusual.  Personally, if my sims are skilling outside then I don't want them running inside due to the weather.  A lot of players may want their sims to be outside during a thunderstorm, particularly if it's a knowledge sim with the want to be hit by lightning, or they may want to terrorise a sim of another aspiration with the fear.  A mod that makes sims run inside during a storm would be annoying.


I've been making the babies selectable and doing the same thing.  The other thing I've been doing is fiddling with the camera angle, so that the nursery is still visible but is the furthest room away.  This way the sound of the baby is quieter, but the baby controller lets me know when the baby really does need attention.  Zooming out helps too.

I'd also like to see a Pod People mod.  Make it so if a Sim plants crops in red Aspiration, instead of regular plants a pod would grow and hatch an evil clone of the Sim who did the planting, that would then proceed to attack its twin whenever they meet.

That's right, there used to be evil sim clones - one of the potions, wasn't it? An evil pod person sounds great but what would happen with the character files?

I think there might be a mirror somewhere that can do it.  Possibly a potion as well.  If it was done right it wouldn't mess up any character files, I don't think--just copy the Sim's genetics and outfit, and maybe interests and skills, into a separate Sim with a nastier disposition.  (Or a maybe a nicer one, if it happened to be a nasty Sim to begin with.)  XD  I don't know if memories, relationships and so on could be copied safely.  Some more awesome modder would have to be consulted...

Sorry, forgot to mention, I was off on a trip down memory lane then with Sims 1. There was a science lab where you could create 7? different potions - I thought the evil clone outcome was one of them.

It was. The clone 'disappeared' when it left the lot, I think. I vaguely remember that being somehow buggy, one time the clone of one of my other Sims wound up with the surname 'Newbie', as if it lived in that household... Any actions it performed to affect the relationship with other Sims seemed to affect your Sim's relationship with those same Sims.

I liked the 'Monster' potion on that. I'd lock them in a room with only easels, and they'd go nuts painting. ;) But don't let them near anything breakable, or it'd all wind up broken!

What else was there? Love potion... Invisibility... Mood boost... (I forgot the others... Google to the rescue!) Mood drop. Reverse personality (How could I forget the fun I had with that? Making a no-personality Sim and maxing them on that.) And the one that cured sickness.

I was so excited to see the Science career reward, but it turned out not to be the same. I miss the Sims 1 version.

We were considered the Addams Family of our neighborhood and my mother drove a hearse, so we weren't very normal either.  lol

But getting back on topic, I realize that many people do enjoy being out in the rain or during storms, and it's not unusual. I personally enjoy listening to them and watching them, but the topic of the thread was what mods are we begging for since Seasons came out and that's what I would beg for it is was possible... because if you didn't want them running inside, then you wouldn't have to download a mod that makes sims run inside during a storm, would you?




I just felt heat and saw white. Everything turned white and there was a vibrating buzz and then I was looking up and my parents were hysterical. It had thrown me several yards ... and I couldn't talk or anything and don't remember the first few days afterwards but it had entered at my neck and exited at my heel and I have nerve damage from it. I was unable to walk for 6 months.

Wow. Just, wow. Glad you survived it, how old were you? Maybe an adult would survive it better with a larger body mass.

The thing is, on this site, the mods are designed to work together and as a package.  Pescado doesn't do requests, he only makes stuff he wants in his game, and then shares most of it with us.  If you can convince Pescado that he wants his sims to run in out of the weather then you may be in luck.  But I wouldn't get your hopes too high ... after all he did add smite to the lot debugger.


Sounds similar to what happened to my brother.  He got electrocuted by some faulty machinery at his workplace.  The electricity entered through his his thumb/palm of his hand and exited through his heel.  He suffered muscle damage to his thumb, palm and heel as a result.  The doctors said he was lucky to have survived.

I see at least one other person has asked for 'no autonomous water balloon fights' and I will second, third or whatever that... in fact, I'd pay for that mod.  I am so sick and tired of my sims meeting someone for the first time and their next autonomous action with that person is to slam a water balloon into their face.  Works so well to 'win friends and influence people'...

I'm also really sick of the autonomous water balloon fights. My Sims will go outside in the rain and snow to throw water balloons at each other. It gets especially obsessive if the Sim is even a little bit in the red, temperature-wise. I'm always X-ing out stupid water balloon fights and directing them to get a drink of water out of the sink. Why in the world can't they just autonomously do that instead of trying to goad other Sims to hit them with a water balloon?

Monique over at MTS2 has done this mod. It is is her no autonomous hacks thread.I don't have the link right now. Just doa search for monique.

Thank you for that information...will save my sanity and a few exasperating sims, too.

Only mod I am begging for the Seasons' return of (at the moment) is Dizzy's No Attraction mod. Farting hears all over the place. I forgot how annoying it actually was.

How about an non-autonomous 'clean-up' if there is food still on the plate. I love having a pond and being able to fish. It fills them up so fast. Even in the lighter red, they rarely finish the plate. But they get up automatically and clean-up if I'm not vigilant. I'd like for them to put it away automatically instead of cleaning up. I'll never have to re-stock the fridge....

Yep, I'd like a hack for that too.

Squinge has also made a no autonmous waterballoon fight hack.

However, rather than seeing it squashed altogether, I'd rather the game do a check for appropriate season (Summer), location (outdoors) and perhaps even body temperature - a sim who needs cooling down should be more likely to participate in or initiate this activity than a sim who does not need to cool down.

Amen.  It's only the waterballoon fights in the cold that really bother me.  Seriously, who does that?

Agreed! I also have guests swimming at night while there is 3 feet of snow on the ground ???


I would like...a no fire hack...for the cooker and the fireplaces and anything else than can and does catch fire.

Edit- A fire hydrant for dogs to use (instead of the path and garden) I think the Sims1 had one of these?

Well, they get around that by saying the pools are always heated. :)  But yea, the sims would get pretty cold running from the pool to the house in their bathing suits...

I know this from personal experience...on my honeymoon at the end of February in Chattanooga, Tennessee.  :o  It was warm in the pool and the pool was inside, but we had to run outside all the way to our "room" (it was a train made into a hotel with each room one end of a train car.)  It had been rather nice during the day, but at night it gets chilly up in the mountains.

I reeeaaaalllly want a hack that will stop my sims from wanting a bath or shower every time they get warm or cold .... is there such a hack/mod out there already ???

They heard me ;D

http://thesims2.ea.com/update/getpatch.php?appVersion=1.7&variation=cd&languageCode=

The Sims 2 Seasons CD/DVD Patch   
 
 

Instructions: Save the file to disk and then run it to install the patch.
Please make sure you have your game CD's available during patch installation.
 Download The Sims 2 Seasons CD/DVD Patch
(Note: This patch is compatible for all languages)

 
 
 
Complete list of changes:
Custom objects will now be preserved when uploading Lots to the Exchange.
Musician Career Track career reward (Rock Hammer) now has audio functioning correctly.
Sim Babies no longer cry excessively.
 

Yes, you must be *VERY* special...  :-X

You have a point, the pool was always warm in Spain even at night when it was chilly. I did wonder if they would freeze to death as they oftan stand around and play red-hands or something afterwards but it seems that no real harm can come of it so I stopped worrying  ;D

Real pools, even if unheated, will remain warm at night if it was warm during the day because water has a high specific heat and cools very slowly as a result. There's a lot of energy stored in that pool and it will take long time to lose it all. This is why places near the ocean tend to have lower temperature fluctuations: That huge ocean acts like a giant heat sink. Compare to, say, deserts, where the sand is not a very good heat sink and thus the desert goes from broiling to freezing very quickly at nightfall.

I should have realised that as a gardener, if there is water in a greenhouse (like Kew Gardens in London) the mean temperature is always higher and more stable, they nearly lost their orchids by forgetting this and draining the indoor pool. Plus my garden has a huge pool and in the summer it's always warmer and more humid in my garden than my friends even if the night is chilly. 

The mean temperature doesn't change, the temperature merely becomes more stable because the water functions as a large sink. If it's really cold for an extended period of time, and then it becomes warmer in a spike, it will take that much longer to warm up as well.

Like the sea is really too cold to swim in in spring, but stays warmer than the mean temp for a long time in Autumn.

Why, thank you :)  Being retired and a grandmother I'm used to being rare in gaming circles.

<refrains from commenting about tone and returns to knitting>

Actually, I think the baby constantly crying was wearing on everybody's nerves, not just those of us lucky enough to have experienced it first hand. Well, second hand, too counting the grandchildren.

Have fun! It's a game, remember.

 :D ;D  and it comes in so handy at times!  lol


I was 24 at the time.

I dont know if anyone else has this problem but I after I installed Seasons, I was able to invite someone over from the Garden Club and join the club... I can still invite them over but Im no longer getting the option of joining .... help ?!?! Anyone got a hack to add the option back on ????? Please PM me if you !!!!

You don't need to join again if you've already joined...

*snuffles a genius panda*

 ;D

Someone who has already joined the garden club will have the option to have their garden inspected.  This will get various cash rewards, and if your garden is good enough, the Wishing Well.

If is more than one Sim in the house, each has to join the garden club separately.  You can only join the garden club once with each Sim (at least on that lot, I haven't tried moving to another lot to see what happens).

If no one else can join the garden club, then there's a problem somewhere.  See if they have the option to have their garden inspected.  If they have neither the option to join nor get an inspection, it's broken.  Make sure you are looking through all the menus, especially clicking on "more..." if it's available.  The option to join isn't always on the first "page" of menus.  I had to go looking for it once, but it was there.

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Also, if you're using Pescado's phonehack, make sure you're using the current Seasons version of the phonehack. 

I've had a Sim join three times (trying for the perfect score). If you have double checked your hacks making sure they are updated, you probably have fallen into the 72 hour limit. You must wait 72 hours after an inspection to "join" again. You can invite them over, but the option to join will not be there.

I thought joining == getting membership. After you've got a membership you can get inspected.

I pretty sure it's: call garden club, ask for membership, get inspection, join the club.  Every lot of mine has numerous wishing wells. You can be reinspected every 72 hours and if you score high enough you get the well and you will always get cash on reinspection. Beware, if you get a low nasty score on a subsequent inspection, the sim who called can lose their membership.  :-\

I'm not an expert 'cause I've only got one sim that cares about gardening, but he got the option for garden club membership once. After that he could call for inspections at the 72 hour period, but he never had to get membership again. *shrug* I don't know anything so I'm most likely wrong. He's had about 15 inspections though... only had to gain membership once.

I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. You get the membership once, but can be reinspected to get the extra wishing wells and cash. I was just trying to sort out the OP's question about reinspections and why they might not have the option on their pie menu.

This is what I get for posting after driving almost 2000 miles in 2 days.  :-\

*shrugs* I don't think it's us, I think it's the OP's post.  :-* All is well.

*goes all Horshack with the 'ooh, ooh!' and the hand thrusting into the air*

I'll definitely throw in with the lot dreaming of a hack to make sims quit trying to trash a plate that's still half full of sparkly bass dinner. Put that back in the fridge, you mo'!

that hack is done...

And you can find it here: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,7984.0.html

My Sims never catch any bugs. Weird! Maybe I need more bug-attracting flora on my lots.

I'm happy with the mods I get, though I've been hankering for a Sim Pet ferret for a while. I doubt it will happen.

Oh yes.

You have carpet sharks at your house, too?

My last remaining house weasel is getting fairly old now, but that old fuzzbutt still dooks and wardances like a kit.

Only QTPi, mentioned in the cats thread. Gone three years on 31st May. Adored and missed.  :'(