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Title: Bubble blowers
Post by: Gus Smedstad on 2005 September 24, 15:30:08
I bought my first bubble blower today.  Yeah, kinda late considering I've had Uni for months, but bongs really aren't my thing.  One of my Pleasure sims wanted one, though, so I bought one for him.

It was kind of amusing at first.  After a while your Sims start floating, because they're "high,"  I guess.  I set 4 Sims playing with it who all needed some Fun, and then ignored it for a while.  Then I noticed one of those Sims was in the yellow, so I went to check on them.  All of them had full Fun meters, but they all refused to leave on their own, even though they were full up.

So I guess the Bubble Blower is "addicting" as well, but it's really annoying.  Bubble blowers are almost as bad as musical instruments.  At least with the instruments, they're gaining creativity while they're stuck to it.  On the other hand, they don't have that hideously long "check for tips" animation when you drag them away, and they don't draw every Sim on the lot the way instruments do.

The best entertainment objects seem to be pinball games and the really expensive TVs.  With those the Fun recovers fairly quickly, and Sims gain social and relationship while using them with other Sims.  Unlike, say, the video game console.  The main drawback of both is that you can't queue any actions for when they're done, any other action at all cancels them.

 - Gus


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: nothingbutsims on 2005 September 24, 16:01:56
So I guess the Bubble Blower is "addicting" as well, but it's really annoying.  Bubble blowers are almost as bad as musical instruments.

Very true.  I had a bubble blower at one of my college lots before NL.  One of the NPC dormies started playing it, say 5 or so pm, and when my sim woke the next morning, the dormie was still playing on the bubble blower - never slept, ate or used the toilet all night long.


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: rohina on 2005 September 24, 16:09:09
I love putting the bubble blower in the dorm for this exact reason. It seems to me to be so realistic. (I'm a college professor, and I know I have students who only drag themselves away from the bubble blower to come to class.) I wish they would get relationship points from it, though. They do improve social, so it would seem reasonable to improve relationships, too.
The blower is excellent for pregnant women, I find, because it puts up fun and comfort quite quickly. My pregnant sims are often low on fun because their other needs are more pressing.


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: breyerii on 2005 September 24, 16:27:10
The best entertainment objects seem to be pinball games and the really expensive TVs.  With those the Fun recovers fairly quickly, and Sims gain social and relationship while using them with other Sims.  Unlike, say, the video game console.  The main drawback of both is that you can't queue any actions for when they're done, any other action at all cancels them.

H'm, if I'm not mistaken J. M. holds the kickable flamingo to be the fastest, and cheapest, way to flll your sim's fun bar. I tend to agree.


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: RainbowTigress on 2005 September 24, 17:41:52
So I guess the Bubble Blower is "addicting" as well, but it's really annoying.  Bubble blowers are almost as bad as musical instruments.

Very true.  I had a bubble blower at one of my college lots before NL.  One of the NPC dormies started playing it, say 5 or so pm, and when my sim woke the next morning, the dormie was still playing on the bubble blower - never slept, ate or used the toilet all night long.
Yeah, if you check them out with the mind control mirror, you'll see almost everything in the orange to red zone.  I sometimes use this to unstick dormies and NPCs who play the blower or instruments all night or get stuck in group research.


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Hook on 2005 September 24, 17:49:44
H'm, if I'm not mistaken J. M. holds the kickable flamingo to be the fastest, and cheapest, way to flll your sim's fun bar. I tend to agree.

The flamingo builds fun quickly, but without a macro to keep kicking it and standing it back up when it falls, it's a micromanagement pain in the tush.  And every time it falls it causes the environment score to go down.  I keep one around now for emergencies, but I prefer using red hands to get fun up as I find it more useful.

I wonder if Maxis has a hidden message in the bubble blower:  If you have one, you won't want to do anything else, even tend to vital needs.  Just Say No, kids! :D

Hook


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: sara_dippity on 2005 September 24, 18:29:44
The flamingo builds fun quickly, but without a macro to keep kicking it and standing it back up when it falls, it's a micromanagement pain in the tush.  And every time it falls it causes the environment score to go down.  I keep one around now for emergencies, but I prefer using red hands to get fun up as I find it more useful.
I agree. I also prefer the punching bag to the obstacle course because it builds body constantly rather than running around to build it again.


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Motoki on 2005 September 24, 18:54:40
H'm, if I'm not mistaken J. M. holds the kickable flamingo to be the fastest, and cheapest, way to flll your sim's fun bar. I tend to agree.

Yeah but it's a pain in the ass without macrotastics. I find viewing a painting, any painting even a cheap crayon drawing, 3 or 4 times in a row works wonders. Actually, since the flamingo is a scuplture you could probably view that too. Viewing paintings and sculptures or kicking the flamingo or gnome (a sim with 10 playful can actually play with the gnome ;) ) works so fast to get fun up though it's kind of a borderline cheat imo and I try not to overdo it but to use the games and TV and stuff instead. Besides, the yummy channel gets cooking up too as well as social and fun.


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Oddysey on 2005 September 24, 19:02:49
H'm, if I'm not mistaken J. M. holds the kickable flamingo to be the fastest, and cheapest, way to flll your sim's fun bar. I tend to agree.

Yeah but it's a pain in the ass without macrotastics.

That covers basically everything, doesn't it?


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Motoki on 2005 September 24, 20:40:35
LOL I suppose it does. ;) But I still find queuing up look at a painting 3 times less bothersome than kicking a flamingo, waiting until they are done, standing it back up, kicking it again etc.  :(


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Azkar on 2005 September 24, 21:10:12
Hmm .. I have a modified bubble blower that I downloaded from MTS2 that blows smoke instead of bubbles  ;D


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: witch on 2005 September 24, 22:39:40
Actually, since the flamingo is a scuplture you could probably view that too.

My elder sims often come home and stand viewing the flamingo for ages, it takes ages to cancel the action too. I even saw an adult doing it the other night. I didn't pay attention to the funbar though, I'll have to check it.


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2005 September 24, 22:47:10
Kicking the crap out of something is every bit as entertaining in real life as it is in The Sims. I mean, what do you think people did before all these electronic games and gew-gaws were invented? That's right, they beat each other with sticks and kicked stuff.


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: sanmonroe on 2005 September 25, 01:24:01
I still do that!


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: ElviraGoth on 2005 September 25, 01:37:27
Red Hands is great for the kids who come home from school with the fun bar in the red.  Gets them up far enough to put on the easel or chessboard or whatever in one short game.

Bubble blowers are a pain.  But I just found out that the Electro-Dance Sphere (new in NL), which I put in a dorm just to see what it would do, is just as bad.  A cheerleader strolled in, went up to it, and monopolized it all day and half the night, then came back the next day and did the same thing - that is, until I had one of my sims tell her goodbye to get her off the damn thing!  The nice thing about it is that sims will use it autonomously for body skill points, so I don't always have to tell them to get in it.


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: DuckSpeak on 2005 September 25, 04:42:42
Hmm forgive me for my bottomless stupidity(TM, 1945) but what exactly is the function of the bubble blower in RL? (Yes, I know it's an object in Sims 2...)


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Kitiara on 2005 September 25, 05:14:19
Does it have to have one? This is a game. Not all objects/concepts translate well to RL situations/behaviors.


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: witch on 2005 September 25, 05:16:57
A hookah is an eastern pipe for smoking hash through, usually the smoke passes through water to cool it and make it easier to smoke. Westerners use lots of other things instead of water, like ice, alcohol and so on.
Pic here:
http://richardmcguire.com/travel/asia/indiabw/hookah.htm

Actually it may have started with opium not hash, I don't know.


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Gus Smedstad on 2005 September 25, 05:23:15
Water pipes are also known as "bongs" here in the US and used to smoke marijuana.  Particularly in college.  I saw several in use when I attended Boston University.  This is so clearly the derivation of the "bubble blower" that I halfway expected it to lower the Hunger meter.

 - Gus


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: DuckSpeak on 2005 September 25, 05:28:26
Does it have to have one? This is a game. Not all objects/concepts translate well to RL situations/behaviors.

Well, it should to a certain extent unless rohina is a giant conspiracy to cause mass confusion.

Thanks for the explanations. I'm aware of hookah pipes but thought they were only used with water + tobacco, hence the confusion. Plus, uhh... I'm not supposed to know about such things.  ::)


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: skandelouslala on 2005 September 25, 05:42:18
Ahh yes ..like instruments except for the occassional piano this is one of those things that can rarely be on my lots b/c my sims abuse the damned thing. 


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: DuckSpeak on 2005 September 25, 05:49:50
and goes against the rules of the "Behaviour of Maximum Efficiency."


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Velax on 2005 September 25, 05:50:35
Yes....I had the live-in gardener from DMA, and the stupid twit spent all day on the piano rather than actually doing any gardening. Well, no, that's not true. She spent six hours on the piano, then deigned to spend a couple of hours gardening before going back to the piano. Sigh.


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Dark Trepie on 2005 September 25, 07:55:29
I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought the Bubble Blower was a "cleverly" disguised giant multi-user bong.  I mean they float around and giggle uncontrolably, what else could it be?

I'm sure we all know what the fruit punch barrel is "supposed" to be as well.


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: dizzy on 2005 September 25, 08:30:58
I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought the Bubble Blower was a "cleverly" disguised giant multi-user bong.  I mean they float around and giggle uncontrolably, what else could it be?

It is an "homage" to a certain 1971 movie:

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=FIZZY%20LIFTING%20DRINKS


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: ElviraGoth on 2005 September 25, 13:00:28
I wonder how many kids will go to college and REALLY think those things are for blowing bubbles.  :D   I didn't think anyone would be fooled by that!

Of course, I grew up in the 60's, so I've seen a lot of bongs in my life. *sigh* Days gone by.


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: rohina on 2005 September 25, 15:55:59
Does it have to have one? This is a game. Not all objects/concepts translate well to RL situations/behaviors.

Well, it should to a certain extent unless rohina is a giant conspiracy to cause mass confusion.


As far as I know, I'm not a conspiracy, but I have been known to cause confusion. Especially amongst the bubble-blowing fraternity. (Sorry - I thought the hookah reference was entirely obvious.)


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Kristalrose on 2005 September 25, 16:41:32
This is so clearly the derivation of the "bubble blower" that I halfway expected it to lower the Hunger meter.

 - Gus

LMAO!!!  I always think that too!!!  It would be funny if they got up with their hunger almost depleted and started having wants very much like a sim with a "grilled cheese" aspiration, ie--"serve grilled cheese", "talk about grilled cheese", "draw a picture of grilled cheese", etc. 


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: windy_moon on 2005 September 25, 17:02:43
When I installed Uni recently, I used Merola's mirror to check out the bubble blowees...assuming it would lower the hunger meter, just to watch.  :P

Meanwhile, aside from being funny, it's pretty useless for my kind of play....and I cringe when my kids use it in their game.

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Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Hook on 2005 September 25, 18:18:58
This is so clearly the derivation of the "bubble blower" that I halfway expected it to lower the Hunger meter.

 - Gus

LMAO!!!  I always think that too!!!  It would be funny if they got up with their hunger almost depleted and started having wants very much like a sim with a "grilled cheese" aspiration, ie--"serve grilled cheese", "talk about grilled cheese", "draw a picture of grilled cheese", etc. 

Oh, that's too funny!  If Sims use the bubble blower too much, it should change them to Grilled Cheese aspiraton!

When I first showed my son the bubble blower, he exclaimed, "It's a goddamn hookah!"  And I remember seeing real hookahs in antique shops before recreational drugs became really popular.

Hook

PS.  My name isn't derived from hookah, it's part of my real last name. :)


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Zythe on 2005 September 25, 18:23:59
Better yet, a bubble blower aspiration would be realistic. They'd let bubbles and pixie sticks consume their lives, and their LTW would be "live to Elder".


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: radiophonic on 2005 September 25, 18:30:01
When mine want time wasting items like bubble blowers and mp3 players I set them on fire.  :D


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Brynne on 2005 September 25, 19:26:24
Well, I considered the bubble-blower a bong from the beginning. Nice try, maxis. ;)
But from my personal experience what I've heard my friends say, bongs do not play "pop goes the weasel" all the live long day. Now, that's annoying!


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Gus Smedstad on 2005 September 25, 19:34:36
Maybe you your friends didn't buy the right bong.

 - Gus


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: witch on 2005 September 25, 22:44:06
This is so clearly the derivation of the "bubble blower" that I halfway expected it to lower the Hunger meter.

 - Gus

LMAO!!!  I always think that too!!!  It would be funny if they got up with their hunger almost depleted and started having wants very much like a sim with a "grilled cheese" aspiration, ie--"serve grilled cheese", "talk about grilled cheese", "draw a picture of grilled cheese", etc. 

I had a little table attached to the wall in sims 1, with a bowl of weed & pipes & stuff lying on it. Simslice maybe? Anyway, smoking a joint sure made their hunger go down. :)

I thought the bubble pipe would make them hungry too.


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: aussieone on 2005 September 26, 02:41:12
Maybe you your friends didn't buy the right bong.

 - Gus


or smoke the right *ahem* tobacco


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Brynne on 2005 September 26, 04:52:58
Oh, it was the right stuff, I assure you they have assured me.  ;D
I had that same attached to the wall thing in Sims 1. I think that was back when simslice was free.


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Judecat on 2005 September 26, 08:40:22
With the Jefferson Airplane reference in the name of the thing,  do they expect an old hippy not to know what it really is.

Don't remember where I downloaded it from -- but there is a hack of this object that does blow smoke instead of bubbles.


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Brynne on 2005 September 26, 13:11:48
This one?

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=49744&highlight=big+bang+da+bong


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: nothingbutsims on 2005 September 26, 14:15:42
With the Jefferson Airplane reference in the name of the thing,  do they expect an old hippy not to know what it really is.

 :D Hahahaha!  Never noticed what the name of it was, and they're letting the sims kids use this thing - wow!


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Brynne on 2005 September 26, 14:17:38
Yes, it wasn't exactly subtle...


Title: Re: Bubble blowers
Post by: Judecat on 2005 September 26, 17:47:48
That's the one Brynne