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TS2: Burnination => Oops! You Broke It! => Topic started by: Avalikia on 2007 February 11, 23:24:27



Title: Sims missing from "Send to College"
Post by: Avalikia on 2007 February 11, 23:24:27
In one of my neighborhoods the list of teens to send to college is incomplete.  All of the playable teens and Downtown teens show up on the list, but the other townie teens and NPC teens are not on the list.  This does not appear to be hack-related, as the problem remains when I remove my downloads and is only happening to this one neighborhood.  Incidently, this neighborhood is a merged Maxis neighborhood of the SaraMK variety.  Also incidently, when I say that the "Downtown" teens are showing up, I am specifically refering to the teens from the Maxis-made Downtown only, not the teens from the other downtown sub-hoods (strangetown and pleasantview to be specific).  Since it's not the hacks, I'm officially out of ideas of what to try - aside from moving the stray teens into playable houses, but that's just working around the problem, not fixing it.


Title: Re: Sims missing from "Send to College"
Post by: Emma on 2007 February 11, 23:31:07
Someone else had this problem, just trying to find the thread now...

[edit] Here is the thread (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,6785.msg190590.html#msg190590). Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a solution to the problem :-\


Title: Re: Sims missing from "Send to College"
Post by: jrd on 2007 February 11, 23:52:16
Probably those teens have incorrect age data set. If you have the inTeen, you can fix them by making them selectable, and spawning their biological clocks.
I think I saw some option to "fix age data" on the lot debugger as well, but I'm not sure if this fixes the same issue.


Title: Re: Sims missing from "Send to College"
Post by: Avalikia on 2007 February 12, 00:10:32
I have not killed any kittens, so that's no help.  I'll take a look at them in SimPE - in the morning, since it's almost 2am for me right now.

Edit: I lied, I couldn't resist checking.  I've checked up on several teens, and they were all properly marked as teens with a C grade.


Title: Re: Sims missing from "Send to College"
Post by: Ness on 2007 February 12, 00:21:19
I've had this problem appear in a hood every so often.  I've never seen anything in simpe to mark those teens as different, but then I'm no expert so there's no guarantee that there isn't something there.

Sadly, the only fix I've ever found for it is to trash the hood and start again.  :-\


Title: Re: Sims missing from "Send to College"
Post by: jrd on 2007 February 12, 00:41:55
Did you try the lot debugger to see if the option appears?

In a hood long ago (before OFB) I managed to fix some of my teen townies that had these problems by aging them back to kids, then drain their days left and have them age transition. This should still work.


Title: Re: Sims missing from "Send to College"
Post by: miros on 2007 February 12, 01:01:16
I have this problem sporadically.  I think the sadorandom number generator is involved, because it's always the kids I want to go to college that aren't available. 

I use syberspunk's Grow Up hack.  Have one Uni student invite the Townie teen to visit their residence, then ask them to "Grow Up."  Presto, instant Dormie!  You even get the aspiration points for wants such as "X goes to college."  You can then let them sit in the Dormie pool or invite them to move in with you. 


Title: Re: Sims missing from "Send to College"
Post by: notveryawesome on 2007 February 12, 05:19:01
If you want to make non-playable sims selectable without using InSim, Dolphin at MTS2 has a 'make sims selectable' hack that puts an option in the non-playable's pie menu allowing you to make that sim selectable and then de-selectable once you're done doing whatever it is that you need to do.

Edited to correct wrong information. Thanks, Jordi.


Title: Re: Sims missing from "Send to College"
Post by: jrd on 2007 February 12, 05:29:00
The Inteen doesn't do anything with making Sims selectable. You are thinking of the inSimenator.


Title: Re: Sims missing from "Send to College"
Post by: Kyna on 2007 February 12, 05:41:06
If you want to make non-playable sims selectable without using InSim, Dolphin at MTS2 has a 'make sims selectable' hack that puts an option in the non-playable's pie menu allowing you to make that sim selectable and then de-selectable once you're done doing whatever it is that you need to do.

Edited to correct wrong information. Thanks, Jordi.

Why not just use debug mode?  You can make non-playables selectable with that.


Title: Re: Sims missing from "Send to College"
Post by: jrd on 2007 February 12, 05:50:20
Messes up their state. They become flagged as greeted visitors after doing this, which can and will cause problems if you do this on any Sims other than visitor townies.


Title: Re: Sims missing from "Send to College"
Post by: Tyraa Rane on 2007 February 12, 05:59:24
Couldn't you use Merola's mind control mirror for that?


Title: Re: Sims missing from "Send to College"
Post by: jrd on 2007 February 12, 06:15:46
Dunno, depends on how it does it. The inSim's method is safe, as is Dolphin's. Didn't try any others.


Title: Re: Sims missing from "Send to College"
Post by: jase on 2007 February 17, 16:26:10
Couldn't you use Merola's mind control mirror for that?

This mod is also a good alternative if all you want is to make Townies selectable/controllable.


Title: Re: Sims missing from "Send to College"
Post by: Avalikia on 2007 February 20, 19:57:50
Well, when it comes to work-arounds all I've been doing is using the Inge bush to teleport them to the lot and make them part of the family, then saving and sending them to college as part of a group (typically with their future spouse).  What I really want though is a solution to the problem and not a work-around.