More Awesome Than You!

The story behind the OneSeries Skin range: 
A ways back I offered to make genetic versions of Enayla's skins and eyes for another Sims2 player who was unable to hack her own files due to playing on a Mac. 
When the fanasty skins starting coming out we talked about how to place them in the genetic scale. 
I finally concluded that if the skins were placed after the Maxis scale in a 1.xx range that the game might use
them like they were genetic. 
Unsure if it would work I made a batch of altered skins and tested them. 
Pre-pets they worked.  Then I got Pets... tested them again. 
They still worked.  Now I offer them to you.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/dewshine2003/Project0writing.jpg)

Get them here:
http://www.4shared.com/file/10059256/bf28c70f/enayla_oneseries_a.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/10059256/bf28c70f/enayla_oneseries_a.html)
http://www.4shared.com/file/10059329/6114266e/enayla_oneseries_b.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/10059329/6114266e/enayla_oneseries_b.html)
http://www.4shared.com/file/10059442/a5d34ee5/enayla_oneseries_c.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/10059442/a5d34ee5/enayla_oneseries_c.html)
http://www.4shared.com/file/10059522/f24b8354/enayla_oneseries_d.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/10059522/f24b8354/enayla_oneseries_d.html)
http://www.4shared.com/file/10059639/7ec4d5c4/enayla_oneseries_e.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/10059639/7ec4d5c4/enayla_oneseries_e.html)

Also, folks if for some reason my '4shared' links stop working check the thread for the link to the page at Genesims where the 'OneSeries' is also hosted. Thank you Madam Mim and Genesims owner Sidney Eileen.

Don't forget to remove any of the original skins and eyes you have. 
These are renamed and will not overwrite but they have the same internal ID numbers so that Sims do not loose their skintones when upgraded.

Okay, here are the normal skin tones:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/dewshine2003/Project5.jpg)

Files Here:
http://www.4shared.com/file/10060340/743a0c16/Skin-genetic-VeryLight.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/10060340/743a0c16/Skin-genetic-VeryLight.html)
http://www.4shared.com/file/10060221/54a5f131/skin-genetic-Pale.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/10060221/54a5f131/skin-genetic-Pale.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/dewshine2003/Project3-1.jpg)

File:
http://www.4shared.com/file/10059779/1b6a7af7/Skin-genetic-Light.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/10059779/1b6a7af7/Skin-genetic-Light.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/dewshine2003/Project2.jpg)

File:
http://www.4shared.com/file/10059901/506e4908/Skin-genetic-Medium.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/10059901/506e4908/Skin-genetic-Medium.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/dewshine2003/Project0-1.jpg)

File:
http://www.4shared.com/file/10060042/9872d363/skin-genetic-Mediumdark.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/10060042/9872d363/skin-genetic-Mediumdark.html)

Note that these .rars are a bit jumbled and might not have the exact skins pictured above them.  Not included are the default replacements.  Check MTS2 for those.

Note: Enayla just released 4 new pixie skins.  PixiePearl is the one missing here, as the file contained incomplete textures.  As soon as she fixes it I'll add it here.  This update includes all 4 eyes and 3 skins...

Picture:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/dewshine2003/Project0newskins3257.jpg)

File:
http://www.4shared.com/file/12863178/3b313f23/enaylaOneseries-newweyes.html

Allright, Here's PixiePearl!  This file only has the skintone in it.  If you want the eyes then you'll need the above rar.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/dewshine2003/PixiePearl.jpg)

File: 
http://www.4shared.com/file/12888750/6b609041/enayla-oneseries_pixiepearl.html

Redoing the eyes based on groups as Enayla released them, mostly.  Here is each geneticized bunch of eyes showing the original 'bundle' as released by her (plus one pack of all the 'loose' eyes I could find.  I believe I have all of them now.  If you discover I've missed one please let me know so I can add it).

Here is the "orginal" group of 15 eyes released as a pack on MTS2:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/dewshine2003/MTS2_349673_Enayla_eyes-enaylaa.jpg)
http://www.4shared.com/file/14112034/196a03bc/oldeye_collection.html

And here is the "Eyes for the Eyeless" 1 released on MTS2
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/dewshine2003/MTS2_351188_Enayla_15eyesa.jpg)
http://www.4shared.com/file/14112033/870e961f/15_eyeless_eyes.html

I have one large group of all the other eyes.  Note that some of these are already at Genesims.  Madam Mim's genetic values are not the same as mine. Decide which makes sense to you and use what you like.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/dewshine2003/fanastyandoldereyes1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/dewshine2003/fanastyandoldereyes2.jpg)
http://www.4shared.com/file/14112160/62b259d7/Demonic-Alien-Zombie.html

I want to thank various individuals in this thread that have alerted me to missing eyes.  You know who you are, I'm sure, so Thanks.

And the thing you've been waiting for (or not).  Enayla's newest "eyes for the eyeless" released  April 11th, 2007 at Insim:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/dewshine2003/eyesforeyeless2a-1.jpg)
http://www.4shared.com/file/14112678/703df621/eyesfortheeyeless2.html

Here are the three new eyes included with sims made around 4/19/07 (the last two were, the other was made before).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/dewshine2003/Project1-1.jpg)
http://www.4shared.com/file/14706767/9c00ed3c/eyes41907.html

To catch this up to the releases Enayla has made upto April 19, 2007, here are the newest Pixie Skintones not included in my OneSeries.  These are placed in the normal Sims2 genetic range.  Skintones that will work with Madam Mim's NPC ready skins are marked "Matches Mim's"  Not all of these are up at Genesims yet, so those marked "new" have no NPC version. You will notice that I personally thought some of the skins should be darker than Mim.  Just decide which you like better.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/dewshine2003/Project0newskins419.jpg)
http://www.4shared.com/file/14721662/abf185d/EnaylaGeneticPixieSkins41907.html

While I don't have any use for her skins, I do appreciated the eyes. Thank you.  :)

 ;D

You are welcome.

I have all the normal skintones set to go as well, but I need time to make the image to go with.  I'll add them to the first post once I get that done.  (And notice that I kindly did not place the files on this server.) :P

You might want to poke around... Madame Mim already did the normal tones!

I do like your idea to put the fantasy skins in their own "genetic range;" she intermingled them with the normal tones.

I'd be keen on a bigger range of normal tones, I'm not keen on having the fantasy skins intermixed either. Go Dewshine!

Yes, I know they have been done before... Like lots of times.  And I'm sure that folks really need the additional choices...  *snickers* 

What makes mine different is that the name of the file identifies the genetic value assigned to the skin in the genetic range.  Also they all begin 'Enayla-' followed by her name for the skin with an added 'genetic' tag so that it is easy to keep track of them.  Feel free to use Madame Mim's versions if you like them more.  I'm sure they are the same skins.   :D

Not a bad idea, i did this myself long ago since they look alot better than the maxis ones.  It's just a shame they don't have female genetials like all the other adult ones.

Actually I only put the fantasy stuff into the normal range because thats what the majority of people wanted (three of the whole five I could get to answer me) - lol

I always planned to eventually do the fantasy stuff up at 0.99 (I have Sidney Eileens furries at 0.01). Where did you put yours?

As for doing this, I'm sure she wouldn't mind. She gave me permission very easily with the caveat
- don't alter them graphically
- don't post them on sites that host anatomically correct nude skins
- always mention her name

I figure that (if you do the same) you're laughing. Oh, and I can't contact her anymore either - not even at InSiminator where she seems to have moved to from MTS2.

Oh, and yes, like yours the only alteration I made was to the genetic coding, not the graphics.

These actually start off at .99 for the darkest skin and flow through 1.99, rather evenly spaced. I checked out your placement of the normal skintones and they look about the same as where I put mine.

At first I was going to place half of these skins at the very light specturm and half at the very dark.  That really didn't work too well. 

I actually would like to give these altered files back to Enayla, so she can offer them for download.  I guess I just have to keep trying...

She doesn't want them. She likes to have links so that she can offer alternatives to others, but she doesn't want them.

Well, what I mean to say, is that she refused mine when she was at MTS2 because it was too difficult to upload there and she didn't want responsibility for others work as well as her own. Personally with what I went through when I tried to upload to MTS2 I don't blame her.

I didn't know you could go above 1. Thats very interesting.

From what I understand, Enayla has been seriously ill for some months and is just now recovering. She'll probably be available again once she gets caught back up on all the real life stuff that lapsed while she was ill.

I wasn't sure about going above 1 either until I tried it.  That's why I took so long to test it to make sure it worked.  I'm sure that if you wanted to do the furry skins at 2.xx that would work too, Madame Mim.

Thanks for the heads up about her not wanting the files, by the way.  I placed a link in one of her threads already but once she is back feeling better I'll PM it to her as well.  And thanks, stitches, for letting us know what is up with her.

When you get a webpage up and going let me know where it is so that I can link back to you. Why should I do Enayla's fantasy skins when you already have?!  ::) ;) ;D

Or I could post them on Genensims (with full credit to you) if you want.

Or you might even get space of your own at Genensims if you ask nicely. Sidney Eileen says she has a lot of space there that isn't being used. And I think it's a good idea to have genetics available from a recognised source. Again you'll have to obey certain rules, but it's nothing heinous.

Well, I don't know the first thing about web pages, really.  If you want to put them up at genesims go right ahead.  I don't mind one wit.  I did these for myself and Linda Kim asked for them and I emailed them to her.  These are really Enayla's and we both know that.  Sidney Eileen is one generous person in my book.  Thank you for the offer.

So there, you have my permission.

Thankyou. I was just about to do them for my Heaven and Hell Neighbourhood, so you've saved me some time too.

http://www.genensims.com/guest/MadameMim/dewshine.htm

Why, that was fast!  ;D

Thank you.  Now I won't have to panic so much about my '4shared' links going belly up.

Downloaded the eyes out of curiosity to see how you categorized them, though I'd already done them for myself some time ago. I noticed I actually have a few more than you posted; so, here's the ones that are missing in case anyone wants.

wow, thanks.  I didn't have most of those!  I know that I might have had them at one time but lost them when my computer crashed.  Hard to tell. It's nice to have them anyhow.

Haunted is in my downloads folder, but I see it is not in the rar file.  Thanks for uploading these. 

That parts easy it's just bunging some links into my base design webpage and editting the links around it so that it can be found. The taking of some individual pictures may take a little while longer as I tend to get distracted as soon as I turn my game on and forget all about taking some face shots for the webpage.

would a file of pictures help you?  I've got all the skins individually pictured in game.  I'll upload the .bmp format images if you like.  (.rar'ed of course).

http://www.4shared.com/file/10308679/ec608a7b/EnaylaFanastySkinsPictures.html

Thanks, that should help - at least it avoids the whole opening the game and getting distracted bit.

 ;D   Haha.  Yeah, I know the feeling.

Just a quick note to let you know that they are all posted in order and individually with your pictures now.

wow.  Hats of you, Madam.

Funny how I managed to keep the sim's eyes open for every shot except Jade.  I think by that point he was tired of the flash going off, lol.

The page looks great.

Thankyou for sharing these. I've just recently started using Enayla's fantasy skins and eyes so it's now kind of fun to see what 'flavours' of babies will pop out.

For me, these are working best with either alien-fantasy couples who seem to have only fantasy-flavoured children, or all-fantasy couples.  I'm building an enclave in my 'hood with zombies, vampires, weres and fantasy creatures, so I want to keep the offspring in that vein.

I do have a few 'mixed' couples.  I bred an S1-Pixie Winter pair (an approximate skintone range of 0.10 - 1.40) and got a Deep Earth baby!  :o  So, there are some unexpected results when you cross normal and fantasy sims.  :D  What I love about this system is that it's simple to set up couples who could spawn surprise fantasy children, or only normal ones, or only fantasy ones.  It's also nice that fantasy couples within a single colour family logically have children in the same colour, mimicking the way normal sims do.

This is strange.  I downloaded your genetically fixed eyes (thanks for that!) and compared it with my Enayla eyes, and there are quite a few you seemed to be missing.  Unless you've changed their names?

Olive
GoldenGreen
OpalescentEyes
RichBlack
SoftCloud

I think those are the eyes she included with her skins, some time back.  The Olive and the RichBlack is quite nice

All of those except for Olive I uploaded earlier (post #16). I thought I had them all, but I guess I missed Olive. :D Do you happen to remember which download that may have come with?

Stupid question alert -- does the skins' being geneticised also mean that townies and/or NPCs may spawn with these skintones? It sounds like no, but I just wanted to make sure.

Might be this one http://www.modthesims2.com/creator/showthread.php?t=128180.  It has the RichBlack eyes I think, in that set.

If not it's one of her earlier skins.  During her earlier uploads, she wasn't quite sure how to upload a skin, and I think she uploaded a whole sims instead.

Edit :  Actually it might be this one : http://www.modthesims2.com/creator/showthread.php?t=120016  I think I recognize the Olive eyes in that set

I asked this stupid question before, in the Podium  :) and was told that townies will only get the default skins S1-S4.  I have some alternate (but normal) skins set at the same genetic value, and new townies don't seem to get those either.  The alternate skins only come into play in born-in-game sims.

There is a way to make townies generate with custom eyes.  Someone more Awesome may be able to elaborate on that.

Olive
GoldenGreen
OpalescentEyes
RichBlack
SoftCloud

These eyes are ones that I made into default replacement eyes.  That is why they are not included in my geneticized  eye pack. 

Here they are if anyone wants them.

Not sure if you heard but Enayla has been sick,  :( and her latest posts (Mar 8th or so) on MTS2 indicate she might not be up to snuff for a while yet.  Here's wishing her well!

seelindarun,

I think you would have to alter the internal numbers to fool the game into thinking that the alternate skins set to the s1, s2,s3,or s4 values were stock skins for the townies to use them... I'm not sure what that would do, actually.  I've heard that by changing the creator # in SimPE to all zeros that the game will remove the '*' symbol, but with skins there are only 4 main icons and without the custom flag those skins might not show. 

Eyes should work the same.  Set the creator number to all zeros in addition to the genetic tag.  They should still show up as options for CAS because there are more icons open for eyes. 

This is all theory, and I could be way off base.

Eh... check genesims!  Madam, hats off to you, I didn't even know you'd cracked this open.  ;D

An easier way would be to custom make your townies by making sims and then using the teleporter shrub to set them as townies.

I've made townie-friendly skins, but they don't show up in CAS/BodyShop. Now, someone over on MTS2 (wes_h?) figured out how to make a new collar show up in create-a-pet, and there may be a way to use that information to make townie-friendly skins show up with icons in BodyShop. However, I think we can all see how that is a new and terrible power that would probably explode your game. Or at least your interface.

What I ended up doing is just exporting/importing the skins I wanted in BodyShop. I then cracked open SimPE, set the creator to all zeros and set the genetics. As a result, I ended up with two skin files. One that I could select in CAS/BodyShop, and one that the game could select when spawning. :)

*yawn* Those went up at quarter to one this morning. I've been using them for a while but kept putting off uploading them. You have to set the creator to 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 and delete the 'version' and 'product' lines out of the XML Skin section where you already go to change the darkness value.

I'd appreciate you all letting me know if there are any problems with them. You know how it is, you think you are so careful and then you've left pieces out of the link or put the wrong link in entirely.

You must be on the ball Dewshine if you noticed them, they've only been up for just over 9 hours. I didn't think I was getting that kind of traffic - or were you checking to see if the new Enayla skins were done and up yet?

Me?  Look to see if the new skins were up?  LOL.  I didn't even realize there were new skins until I stopped over at genesims to look at what was going on.  I've been up to my eye balls in writing computer script for a TES4:Oblivion mod.  I spotted that Enayla had made face replacements for that game and thought, 'gee I wonder if she's making stuff for sims again?' but didn't spot anything at MTS2 and missed her post at Insim... gah.  I'm going blind!   :D

With the webpage I don't even have to look. Somebody always comes and asks, ever so politely, if I'm planning to do the new ones too. So then I know that there are new ones and I go and look for them.

The first time it happened I even had to ask the poster where she was posting now.

;)

Enayla just released 4 new fanasty skins.  I shall add them to my oneseries and post them at the top of the thread.  Madam, you already have permission to add them to your area at genesims.  I included individual pictures of the 3 skins in the .rar.

Wow, thanks for doing this Dewshine :)

I'm not entirely clear on what the normal sets will do in my game if I add them. I presume they'll be available as custom skins in CAS, except they'll be mixable with other tones when breeding Sims in-game right? Will these also appear on NPCs/Townies generated by the game, or will my default replacements have to suffice there?

Will you be adding the other normal Pixie tones that were released after you originally posted these (these ones (http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=39485)) to your 'normal' sets? Sorry if you already added those, I just didn't see a note saying you had :)

If you read farther up in the thread, all of your questions will be answered.  :)

Also, if you follow the link in Madame Mim's sig, you'll find NPC-/Townie- friendly versions of every skin published by Enayla.

Missing PixiePearl coming!  Will add the file and picture to the first post.

Well, not all of them, just the normals I think. I didn't really think anyone would want the unique skins turning up on townies. Although I have a waiter with Blue Midnight skin and that's fairly unique when most of my CAS sims tend to be in the pale tones.

And thanks for the extended permission. I shall get on to it now.

edit: Your pictures were a little dark, so I went and nicked them directly from Enayla's Insim page. But they're up (or, at least, I will upload the pages I just fixed after I post this).

 ;D

No worries... Stupid bodyshop pics I took aren't the best, lol.  I just couldn't be arsed to fire up the game at 5am when Enayla first posted the skins (or, err when I noticed them).

The page looks sweet.

I just replied to Shalu that she should come here and tell you this herself, and then I thought that maybe she wouldn't want to enroll here just to repeat herself, so I thought I'd post it myself.

I'm going to do it in my standard line. If you want me to remove it from the oneseries let me know.

Nah, I'll keep it as a Oneseries, and you can make it into a normal skin.  That way folks have their choice.  Personally it's just a shade too grey or something for my taste as a fully normal skin and I think it work well as a varation for the fanasty skins. Go ahead and take it down if you want. Or leave it up... Folks don't have to download it if they don't want to.

I have read the thread but I'm just not completely understanding it (never used this particular kind of custom content before), just a little yay or nay on my interpretation was all I was after :)

I took a look at Mim's stuff before making that post and my problem at the time was that it looks like on certain skins you have to choose which one you want, as say 2 different skins will have the same number in the scale. My problem is that I'm greedy and want them all available in my game separately :) I'll have to take another look and mix and match if need be.

And uh, if I'm wrong, please smack me, admittedly I'm sleep-deprived the past few days so I could just be missing obvious things!

Doltelme,
Actually, you can have as many skins in the game with the same value as you want.  You can have Madam Min's NPC skins alongside the genetic versions as well.  What you can't have is Enayla's original non-modded skins with the genetic versions as they are the same skin.  This was done on purpose so that folks switching from the non-modded skins to the genetic ones would not have sims reverting to maxis skintones.  Don't use my normal genetic skintones with Madam Min's normal genetic skintones! They are the same skins.  Pick one or the other.  My oneseries is similar.  Decide if you want a the pale skins as pale or oneseries.  The game will be confused if you use both because the internal data inside the .package file is the same.  (IE Min's PixieHunter, VampireGrace, FaeBlue, and PixieHaunt are the same skin as my oneseries versions just with different genetic values.  I thought they were too grey to be 'normal' skins.)  The same goes for any skin that she's done as normal and I've done as a oneseries.  Just pick which way you want the skin to show up in your game.  You can use the NPC versions of those skins though.

My genetic versions of the normal skintones are exactly like Min's.  The show up in CAS as custom skins and when using the make-a-baby feature they show up just like the maxis tones (IE, a dark skinned sim and a light skinned sim can produce a child with any tone between theirs).  They don't show up for NPCs. The game sees them as custom and playable sims are the only ones that get these skins.  If you want the NPCs to have these skin tones then you'll have to have the NPC versions...  They don't show up in CAS, but using the randomizing button you can still access them.  If you want to be able to pick specific skins you need both versions.

Now, what was the question again? :D

Sorry if I sounded cranky; I wasn't feeling that way.  Honest!  :D

Let me just give you an example of my setup.  I have roughly 35 custom skins geneticised in the normal range from 0.01 - 0.99.  Plus, the whole one series, another 15 skins or so.  Additionally I have 4 default replacements in the normal range, and 3 more for aliens, zombies and vampires.  My townies only spawn with the defaults mainly just because I like to keep my DL folder under control.  55 skins take up a lot of space!  Occasionally, I need to make a special sim in CAS so I like the whole spectrum available to me there.  If I wanted townies to be able to pick up the skins too, I'd have to have doubles and that's too much load for me.

Many of the skins have the same genetic value, but none of them are duplicates.  i.e. I happen to have 3 skins valued at 0.10, but I only have a single copy of any given skin.  I had a female sim with one of the custom skins = 0.10, and a townie with the default replacement, who spawned a baby boy with the third skin available at that value.  Variety is good!  ;D

I like having Pixie Ruby available in the one range, because one of the things I do is to 'sneak' in an almost-normal, unadorned sim into a normal suburban family.  Though I wouldn't want this to happen all the time, it's amusing when a boring, overachieving family spawns a red mutant!  :D

That looks like a really awful rash.

And that's a negative?

I should think that nasty rashes would pale next to your bile-drooling, brain-eating zombies!  :P

LOL.  Actually it is very nice in game.  ;D

seelindarun

A lot of your questions are answered on my site, although they are scattered around and about so you might not have seen them. I did tell everybody new to read the 'Technical Stuff' but very few people do, so I will add my explanation to Dewshines.

Skins come in three basic types Custom (what most people are producing), Genetic (Dewshine & I for example, although there are others) and NPC available. So lets pretend there are five skins you want to add to your game - Fred, 0.01_Fred_genetic, 1.01_Fred_oneSeries, 0.01_Fred_NPCAvailable and 0.01_Alice_genetic.

Now the first thre of those skins all have the same internal numbering. They are all the same skin and you shouldn't use more than one of them in the game or it will get confused. 0.01_Fred_NPCAvailable has the same internal numbering as the others, but is designed to be an add on. You can add it to a game that has 0.01_Fred_genetic and everything will work out fine. I wouldn't, personally, add it to a game with Fred or 1.01_Fred_oneSeries in it, because it doesn't have the same genetic number and I think the game would just get confused again. So out of those first four skins you should really add only one or two of them, depending on which of the first three you pick.

0.01_Alice_genetic has the same genetic number as 0.01_Fred_genetic, but they are different skins and have different internal numbers. It is absolutely fine to have them both in the game at the same time. You can have as many as you want. The real number of all custom skins is 0.00 and nobody tells you there's a limit on how many of those you can have, do they?

Alright, thanks everyone, took a while but I think I've got it at last. I appreciate you guys going through this for me :)

It's fa-NASTY!

Pixie Ruby is up in the standard series now, genetic and NPC Available

Thankie much, Madam.  I posted a link to your part of genesims in one of Enayla's threads over at Insim.  Hope that's okay.  Folks were asking about genetic versions so I thought I'd do you a favor...  ;D

Thankyou. I've been meaning to wander over there and have a read of it in any case - so I probably would have ended up doing exactly the same thing.

 ;D  Enayla has struck again!  There's a new pack of "eyes for the eyeless"  that I'll be adding as soon as I can get them sorted.  They are pretty nice eyes too.  I've been working on a website to teach myself how to do it (seeing as I didn't know anything as of yesterday I'm doing well I think.)  I'll blame that for not seeing the eye pack sooner *snicker*

It's off topic but anyone wanting to know the basics of doing a webpage should check out this site: http://www.pagetutor.com/
I was following the tutorial and had a full-scale working page in a few hours.  You can see the fruits of my labors at my site GM_Andy's (http://www.angelfire.com/planet/gm_andy/).  It's not a sims site, but one deciated to my Pitch Black addiction. 

But nevermind that... I'll get the eyes done and posted as soon as I can.

Let me know and I'll put a link up for your eyes - I don't have a lot of interest in doing eyes, but I do like downloading them.

As an aside I've had a problem pointed out to me with my NPC versions. I should have ones that actually work as intended (they were overwriting the standard genetics and making them unaccessable) due to some help from SaraMK and Theo

Ah, wonderful that you are getting help from these awesome folk, Min.  I don't have the NPC versions in my game so I'll wait to add them until they are working correctly. I looked at all the old eyes I've done by Enayla and realized that I was lacking pictures.  I went and snagged hers and added the value to them that I set the eyes to.  I think though that I need to really look at the odd eyes and make a decision as to place them at 3 (very recessive) or 4 (very very recessive).  I might change them, or not.  I guess it depends on what people want.

PS.  I missed the question about adding the new normal skitones to my 4shared links.  Er... I guess so.  Mim has done them so you can get them there, of course.  In fact other than renaming them that is what I did.  Oh, but they were broken, yeah?  Mim, I think I'll to an "all in one pack" of the newer pixie skins (Including PixieLovless, which came out today) once I get the new eyes done. 

Ah nuts.  It looks like I'm double posting but heck... The eyes are up.  Mim I do hope the pics are okay if you want to use them to expand the "enayla's eyes" section over at Genesims.  You may do so, of course.  If you want to keep your own eyes up I can change the picture and tack it on so that the values match.  I don't use the 4 value very much, so those demon eyes of mine are set to 3.

It'll be a while before I can touch any eyes. I've finally tracked down exactly how to make the NPC skins work as I want them to. For a while I deluded myself into thinking I could do it with smaller package sizes (making the NPC skins just a small attachment to the geneticised ones) but Theo finally got it through my thick head that it simply can't be done that way. I'm going to use a method suggested to me by SaraMK - cloning them in bodyshop with my own slight twist. It's only the family name that makes them unique. So if I change the family name in SimPE I should be able to get through them faster. I may even do your skins and the furries eventually. Until then it's going to be number changes and testing for me.

No problem.  Work on your NPC skins and folks can pick up the eyes here for now. I am excited that you got them to work even if it means lots of hacking for you.

I actually did her pixie moss skin as a default alien skin which really makes some beautiful aliens if anyone is interested in it just let me know.

Thanks.

It's not any hacking at all. I wanted to do them in SimPE - I thought I could just change the family name, but that doesn't work. I'll have to use bodyshop to export and import them back in. There must be some other identification number that I just can't see/alter. Then I just open them in SimPE and make the changes I described earlier in this thread. It's the bodyshop part that is time consuming.

I hate bodyshop. That and my complete lack of artistic talent is why I never went into making my own skins.

Oh, and sure, if I have to be in bodyshop anyway I may as well go through the whole lot and do furry's, normals even dewshine's skins as npcAvailable, but I actually have some real live cash work on at the moment, and it's my 35^th on Friday so (nothing personal ;)) I have better things to do than skins at this particular moment. I'll probably start them on Sunday and do them page by page. I'll post here as each page is completed.

imyourboy,
I used Jade as a alien default until I had to trouble-shoot Anomaly for someone who had the skin and matching eyes not work quite right.  I'm using PixieMoss as my Plantsim default.  If you want to offer your version, go right ahead.  I don't mind.


Madam Mim,
Ah, I understand.  So the way the NPC skins were they still confilcted with any other versions of the same skin because there's a hidden value that can't be changed in SimPE.

Bugger.

Someone could have used your old NPC skins if they only wanted that version except for the overriding they were doing on the default replacements, from what I gather.  What you want to do is to create a second version with internal numbers that don't conflict.  The only problem I see is that folks won't be able to just switch to them and not use any other version of those skins if the already have a sim in game using it, because the internal numbers would be different and thus the game won't recognize it at the same skin.

That makes things very complicated.  Too bad this seems to be a coded limit within the game itself.  Good luck with BodyShop.

I can tell you this: I have to use bodyshop when I make contacts.  Just copying the original package and changeing names/values/textures in SimPE doesn't work there either.  I feel your pain.  ;)

PS.  Happy Birthday, Madam.  Have a good one and eat lots of cake for everyone!

I'm very new to this sort of thing, so I hope you'll forgive me if I ask some stupid questions.  ::) I really did read the thread first, I swear...

If I download the set of rainbow-colored skins, and make a few sims with them, and have them interbreed... rather than the child always having the color of the mother or the father, the color could be one or the other, or any of the colors in the range inbetween. Is that right?

However, if I have this in my game and breed sims with the regular skin tones, there's no way those rainbow colors will show up in the children. Right? :)

What happens if, say, a deep blue faerie and a normal sim have a child?


Thanks!

Their child could end up any shade from the human parent's skin tone up to the darkest human norm or the lightest faerie tone up to the pixie parent's skin. (If I remember how dewshine numbered his skins...)

If I wanted my faeries (or demons) to interbreed with humans, I'd probably use the non-genetic version of the faerie skins so the children will have one parent or the other's skin.

Using the non-genetic versions of these skins will give you sims that always breed the dominant custom skintone. 

It's like this: An S1 and an S4 can have S1, S2, S3 and S4 offspring, yeah?  Any sims with modded genetic skins set within those ranges could also pop up  (so if theres an S1.5 value in there it would also have a chance of showing up.)

The oneseries skins are set above the S4+ value.  Or at 1.00+

Normal skins (S1-S4) are set at 0.10 to 0.90, just to clarify.

If you take a S1 sim and breed it with a "blue" sim and that blue skin is set to 1.5 (for example) then any skin from 0.10 to 1.5 could pop up.  So actually, MoonDragoness, you could have the odd skins show. 

My personal example was with an S3.25 valued skintone and PixieHunter as a oneseries.  The baby was PixieGuilt colored, or the darkish blue-gray tone.  I kinda let the sims decide who they liked themselves that time, and I think every child from that pair is going to be a different color!  At least I won't have problems telling them apart.

Yeah, you could get some interesting results, having very dark skintones that fall in the middle, or red, purple, or pale grayish white.  To me it makes sense, because you have no idea what type of pigments are in that blue skin to make it that way, do you?

But if you want to preserve the blue tones, you should try to breed it with another oneseries sim closer in value to it (like the green or the gray) as opposed to using the non-genetic versions which will always place the blue tone as dominant.

Hehe, I converted the Pixie Moss to alien as well and the Hedonistic eyes are my new alien eyes and I got an anime type pollinator so bring it on!!

I'd really love your geneticised eyes, but the links won't work for me, any reason for that? There's not a lot of them up at the Genemsims site and I'd really like the Eyeless ones *pout*

If you don't mind yahoo groups the same pack is posted there as well. 

Here's a link: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dewshine_recolors_for_sims2/ (http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dewshine_recolors_for_sims2/)

I just checked the links to 4shared and they are working.  However, the site is a bit wonky at times when there are too many people trying to download at the once. This is why I also put them up at my yahoo group.

Did I mention that I love you and want to have your babies?

Have I mentioned that offers like that are just WRONG?

I just hope they don't post pictures of the babies here!

How good are you with a turkey baster?

My sims aren't too discriminate with who they breed with, why should I be?  ;)


Now THAT is just wrong  :o

*snorts*  LOL  ;D

It must be the avie... 

Do I need to add that 'dewshine' is a girl?
In fact I have a sim here.  Want a pic?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/dewshine2003/Meinhatcustomeyes.jpg)
Here's a link: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,2172.0.html (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,2172.0.html)

But thanks for the offer, I love you too. *snicker*

(edit to add the s to dewshine)

That's all right. My sims aren't too picky about gender either, so again, why should I be?  ;)

If any one is interested my Enayla 'normals' and Dewshine's one series now have complimentary (or alternate) npc Available versions http://www.genensims.com/guest/MadameMim/skins.htm

Wow, custom genetics that actually function as genetics? I hafta get these when I get home! I'm tired of all the babies either having the mom or the dad's skintone. It just looks odd. I wants me some mocha children... etc. ;)

I really wish I could get to genensims from work. Darn diocese and it's banned sites. :(

I'm a little confused by the multiple possibilities...

If I want all the skins Dewshine has put in the "pixie" range, I need to use the NPC skins from Dewshine's page?

Just as an aside to be sure everybody understands each other, Enayla has used the term 'pixie' to denote shading and musculature of the skin, not colour, so normal-shaded skins in the usual maxis range can also bear the 'pixie' prefix in their names.

In any case, regardless of whether it's the normal or fantasy shades you want, if you want the skin available to newly generated townies/NPCs as well as born-in-game playables, you need the NPC Available version on Madame Mim's page.

Dewshine's pack at the top of this thread geneticises those same skins but only makes them available for born-in-game playables and in CAS.  Also, the specific genetic values differ a little bit. 

I have lost track so someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but if you want the skins available to NPCs, and also for yourself in CAS, I think you need both versions of each skin.

You have that about right...

To use the genetic skins in the normal Maxis range you are better off using Madam Mim's versions if you also want the NPC's to use those skins.

If you want my Oneseries versions then you can also get a NPC version.  You don't really need both unless you want NPCs that use the fanasty skintones. 

My normal skins have slightly different placement in the genetic scale and they work fine, but using them along side the NPC versions that Madam Mim has made is use at your own risk.  The genetic values differ and neither of us know if the game will be confused or not.

Now here's another possiblilty: say you don't make sims in CAS... you only want or need the skins to work for in game born sims and NPC generation.  In this case you can use only the NPC versions. (Or at least I believe that is how they work). They will only show up using the 'randomize' button in CAS but your sims will still have a chance of being born with the skins. Note: the NPC only skins won't be selectable as custom skintones!

I hope that helps.  I'm currently working on a Oblivion mod but as soon as I can get my head out of the script I'm working on I'll fire up SimPE and get the newest eyes and skins done.

PS: Mim... there are at lease 3 new skintones released last week with full sims. They are normal range tones.  One is very dark, like deep dark chocolate.  Quite striking... Two of those sims also have new eye colors.   

Three? I only saw two - Pixie Joyless and Pixie Shadow. Where's the other? ???

Pixie Loveless, it comes with Annita.  She also has eyes called Goldlight.  I'm still working on the skins but I'll be adding the eyes in the moring. Loveless is lighter than Joyless and doesn't have freckles.

Oh, I got confused because while the physical files are named properly, the thumbnails are both 'Pixie Loveless'. Silly me ::)

I really like the Enayla Blue Midnight skin but Mim has it under 'normal' dark and I don't see it under dewshine's skins (I may be blind) and since it is sooo dark I would like it under my fantasy skin range.

Is that something that you could do or could you tell me a way to do it?

Thanks, even if you can't/won't help me. You already did so much. :)

Love

~Kitty

Kitty, dear... I used it as a 'bridge' of sorts. 
It's actually set to .99 in my system.  If you want it at that value rather than .97 .98 where Mim has it then download my version found in this pack:
http://www.4shared.com/file/10060042/9872d363/skin-genetic-Mediumdark.html
Setting it at 1.0 would mess up Pixiesteel.

But... if you only want that skin I'll post a link just for you.
http://www.4shared.com/file/14706709/2de267bd/Enalya-BlueMidnightSkin-genetic-VeryDark.html
Notice that it does not say "oneseries" but occupies the 'VeryDark' area instead.  Again it's set to .99


Also, I'm adding the 3 new eyes to the first post as soon as I get the pic uploaded to photobucket.

Thanks for catering to a fuzzy noob's whims  :-*

 :D

How can I not when your Avi cracks me up everytime I look at it?  That cat is so cute by itself but it taking the 'picture broken' symbol is just too funny. 

I've gotten the newest normal skins done.  Many of my choices match Madam Mim's but not all of them.  I think some of the skins are darker than she does...  I've marked the ones that match.  My .rar file includes some older skins that upon taking another look I realized were in the wrong spot.  Sorry no pic of those, but they follow the older pictures better than they did before.  I'm going to add the new collage and link to the rar to the first post now.

Done!

I don't know if anyone else is having this problem, but when I tried to download the new eyes you uploaded today, it would take me to the 4shared page and then when I clicked the download button it tells me it can't find the server.  ???

Hmmm, it's happening to me too.  My browser thinks too many re-directs.  Too much traffic?  ???

yes, that's what it does when there are too many people trying to download at once.

Three things you can do: 

Wait and try later
~or~
Snag them from my Yahoo group...
~or~
bitch and whine and maybe I'll attach them here...  ;D

But don't think I'll do that for the skins.  LOL

Thanks for the heads up on the new skins. I'll add them in this weekend (hopefully).

Yes. NPC Available skins might be used by children born in the game. You really only need both versions if you want to make CAS Sims with the skins and have them available for NPC's.

As for Blue Midnight - I may call it 'normal' but it is outside the normal range (0.10 - 0.90).

Hmm - blocked servers - I'll think about updating my Tripod page, but I'd still be using Genensims as the repository for the files and pictures, so I don't know if it'd help. *thinking* - I'll put it on my list for this weekend and let you all know if it actually gets done - then you can tell me if it even works.

Ohh, thanks for teh eyelink. baaaaa.

I put all the new genetics in my game last night, made a new couple... got her preggers... so now I'm waiting to see what pops out. :D I hope the baby's a cool color. haha. XD Mom is very light... and dad is a dark golden tan.

I was holding off doing this but I think it's been long enough.

Please check out this (http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=43919) over at Insim.

You can help out by sending a letter to the site's webhost.  I put the info in my sig.  When the site removes the skins that have been stolen I'll remove the info. 

Stolen skins have been removed.  I still hate 2-f0r-u... 

Thanks to this Enayla is thinking about leaving the Sims 2 community.  :'(

Madame Mim, sorry to be a pain, but I'm a little confused about how best to use the npc-available skins. Am I supposed to download a genetic version AND an npc version or just the npc version?

If it is the latter, I'm still having trouble with the custom skins not showing up in cas except on the randomiser. If it's the former, just let me know & I'll go download the companion pieces.

And thanks for doing this - I cannot imaging how much work goes into this, but I do appreciate the results.

If you want the skins to be selectable, ie to show up as a custom skintone, you must have both the genetic version and the NPC version.

The NPC version does not show up as a selectable skintone. It is working correctly if you only have the NPC skins and there are no skins with a "*" to select.

Does that help?

Thankyou. It was 5.30am when I finished downloading, so I thought I'd doublecheck because I was pretty sure that I wasn't doing it right.

A quick way to check on npc Skins is to hid the random Sim button in CAS and see what comes up - or make a light and dark Sim in CAS and generate some babies. Either way you should see more than just the EA skins.

Oh no, I had no problems with the npc-available genetics showing up in CAS as something the game randomly rolled up - never a problem there, not even with the old versions. I just got confused about how the npc-available thing worked, mostly due to reading about how the npc-available skins weren't showing up under the custom button in CAS. When I downloaded the newly updated ones and they didn't show up, I assumed that if I'd got it right that they weren't working either and that you'd like to know.

Turns out I'd got it wrong and that they are working marvellously. I'm sorry for causing you concern, and I'm very grateful that both you & dewshine are both so incredibly helpful in sorting these things out, and that you did it in the first place.

 ;D

I'm always helpful for those with kitties in their avies, don't ya know.

Happy to help.

Guys, I really need some clarification from you regarding something I'd accidentally found.

The deal with decustomizing is, you remove version+product entries, change flag from -08 to -00, and the creator to "0000blablabla", right?

Okay, this is what I did, using five of Madame Mim's geneticized skins. I changed only the flags from -08 to -00.
Guess what? All five skins appeared in Bodyshop and CAS, and work exactly the same as having two versions method, as currently used now.
Since you're the resident experts in this, I'd like you to tell me just what the hell I did here. :-\

The normal genetic skins show up in CAS.

The NPC versions don't.

Changing the flag to 0x00000000 from 0x00000008 is an unknown to me.

What Madam Mim is doing with the NPC versions is fooling the game into reading them as if they were Maxis/EA made skins.  The flag set to 08 is what I think tells the game to use the texture on the body (while the face is set to 09) but I'm not entirely sure.  It's something I'm investigating right now. 

Maybe I'm not understanding you, though.

Did you take the NPC skins and change the flag to 00 from 08 and they showed up in CAS?  Or reverse?  I'll need to look at one of the NPC skins in that case and play around with it.

Perhaps Madam Mim will have a better grasp of what is going on.

That's what I meant, I took the genetic skins and changed the flags from -08 to -00. It shows up in CAS and Bodyshop, and works as if it was decustomized, meaning that townies and NPCs are spawning with it. I've made backups and done the same to all my skins, and they all work like so.
I even took a non-edited skin direct from Enayla's page and carefully edited the genetic entry and the flags only. Still comes up when the randomize button is mashed.
I am no programmer by any means, and like I said, I don't quite know what I just did.

ETA: Forgot to add they also work genetically. The five skins I tested before used Pixie Shadow at one end, and Pixie Fall at the other. Everything in between came up. Note I used random CAS sims.

Well, I'm not an expert either - I'm working off of methods discovered by Theo and SaraMK. I'll definately have a look at what you've discovered, but you might also want to try telling one of them. Or posting a thread of your own to attract their attention.

that's very interesting!.  I think I might test that a bit then re-release my oneseries skins if it works in my game the same way it works in yours, Mens Mortuus.  It's is certainly worth taking a look at.

 

Perhaps this is a stupid question, but are the eyes townie-friendly?  I have them in game, and I was rolling the dice in CAS, but the only custom eyes that showed up that way were alkaloid's.

If you have two sets of default replacement eyes, only one is going to show. Most likely Alkaloid named theirs with a filename that predecesses Enayla's.

Interesting...  These aren't default eyes I'm talking about, actually.  I removed the default eye replacements from both sets...  But thanks!

The eyes are genetic but not NPC ready.  If you would like these eyes that way and don't want to make them youself I will modify them so that they do work that way.  There's a lot of eyes here, so it may take me some time.

Oh, I understand now.  Thanks!  I'd love it if you could do that, but there's no rush.  :)

Sorry, this is probably a stupid question, but do I still need/can I still use defaults for vampire, zombie, alien, and plant skins if I've downloaded your geneticised fantasy skins, or are those included in this set? I don't see why they would be, but I'm slightly confused about this whole thing. ( :-[)

Oh and I don't need to have her skins already downloaded to use this set, right? I don't think so, but sometimes she packages makeup and stuff with her skins, is that included with the skins in your oneseries? Probably not, oh well..

Anyway, thank you very much for these, this sounds great, now I have an excuse to completely blow up my downloads folder with these lovely skins, so thanks! :)

Yes you can. Geneticised skins are extra's to fill in the gaps between other skins and do not overwrite anything.

I'm not including Enayla's makeup, no.  I do plan on converting it to costume makeup and making it layerable (although I noticed that someone else has already done it, lol).  The Oneseries skins do not impact the default skins at all.  If you want to use any of the default skins that use Enayla's textures made by others there is no conflict with these skins.

One thing to be aware of, you don't want Enayla's original skins in your game at the same time you use the ones I've modded.  The internal values are the same and they will conflict.

I don't especially like green aliens and would love to have light blue or lavender aliens.  Would you be willing to convert your fabulous geneticized versions of the blue and/or lavender Enayla fantasy skins to an alien default skin?

Whether you do it or not, thanks for these skins, and thanks for considering my request!

Lavender alien skins already exist, and they're quite nice: http://laverwinklesims.com/index.php?topic=17.0

LOL  I was going to suggest something a bit different.  Rensims has a beautiful alien default skintone.  It's not green. 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/dewshine2003/2v30w9k.jpg)

you can get it here: http://www.rensim.com/files.php?cat=30

If you still want one of Enayla's non green skintones as an alien default I'll need to know which one.  Note: I've got 3 new skins and 15 new eyes that Enayla made the last week of April to geneticize.  I'll get them done and added as soon as I can.

Oh, thank you!  I liked this so much, I went and got Baaaed at. :-)

I use that Rensim one myself, dewshine :) Really pretty in-game. I've decustomized and geneticized Rensim's human skins, too. This is getting to be almost an obsession :P

Tell me about it. The day I came across this thread I immediately went and learned how to de-customize things, and now every single hair, skin, eyes, and clothing package I have (which is saying something) is Townie/NPC enabled.

It took me nearly three straight days in SimPE to do it, but I'm glad I did. It really is like an obsession. D:

nice idea but i don't like it 'cause their bodies are hairless !! :D
i can't live w/out a skin with hairs :D

These are hairless, yes.  I'm working on cracking the body overlay problem   If I do then you'll have hairs that work like costume makeup.  That will make these hairless skins all the better... ;)

i've worked a bit on her skins to add some hairs to the body.. the resoult would be that :D

(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/148/ambvb9.jpg)

but it require alot of time, and i don't have it  :-\

I'm going to start working on this with my massive skin collection. I've got them organized in the order I want them, but I have a few questions before I begin.

I plan to set them up like this:

The smallest value would be the Ephemera BJD skins. I would love to get these on servos, but never plan to actually breed sims with these
Next would be vampire skins, it's doubtful I will use these for breeding either.

Now I'm not sure about this, but I thought I would put Asian skins next. I want them grouped together, they range from extra-pale to tan. I didn't want them interspersed with the other skins as I don't want a random asian sim popping up from other combinations.

Then I would put the normal skins from extra-pale to dark in the appropriate ranges.

Lastly, I have the fantasy skins: elvish/woodsy types and finally alien. I don't want aliens popping up in my medieval hood, but don't mind elvish in strangetown.

Does it sound workable?


I also have bunches of non-default skintones linked to different bodyshapes, geneticizing them won't affect anything will it?


Note:  If you want to add hair to skintones, just go to insim adult and get AllenABQ's overlays. They make it very easy. The overlays even work with Gimp if you don't have photoshop. They range from light to very hairy.

sound like a great project :)
i think that you have to made a default replacement in order to made the genetic works.

No, you don't. All you have to do is change the genetic value in SimPE.
That is, if all you care about is playables.
(Townies, as always, are another bag of nuts.)

Yeah, I knew that. I'm sure I can handle the Simpe part, I'm just wondering if it will work to put the Asian skintones at smaller than maxis values and I also want to make sure about the skintones linked to special bodyshapes.

EGADS! BUTT HAIR! :o

Hi! I created this account to post this question, but I may stick around.

Anyway, I've just downloaded a bunch of your geneticized Enayla normal skins. I did a little testing, and discovered something. I'm not sure if it is a bug, a feature or a coincidence.

What I did to test was create four Sims. An EA Dark male, an EA Light female, a Dusk female (the darkest skin I downloaded) and an Alabaster male (the lightest skin I downloaded).

I bred them together, with these results:

Dusk and EA Dark: Dusk
Alabaster and EA Light: Alabaster
EA Dark and EA Light: EA Olive
Dusk and Alabaster: Something different, looked like maybe Sweet Fall?

So, looking at this, it seems to me that when I breed EA skins together and when I breed a custom with an EA it treats it as it would if they weren't geneticized, but it works when I breed two customs together.

So, I'm just wondering if you know why this is.

Thank you!

Because of the way skins are geneticised (sized? meh), offspring have a range of possible skins.

If I let you choose a number, any whole number, between 1 and 5, and you chose 3, does that mean you couldn't get 1, 2, 4, or 5? No. You just didn't. That's simply the odds.

If I let you choose any whole number between 1 and 5000, the odds are even better that you won't pick any certain number.

When you have a range of sim skins, offspring can have any skintone between and including those the parents have. If the parents are numbers 3 and 5, your kids will have 3, 4, or 5. If the parents are 1 and 5000...

How many sprogs did you test? One sprog per couple won't show you the range, or the odds.

Hmm, okay. It just seems odd that all four children would follow the same pattern, especially since I have a lot of different skins. I guess I'll do some more testing.

Thanks for your post.

EDIT: I did a bit more testing, and it appears to have just been a coincidence. I feel dumb now! Oh, well.

What skins do you use for elvish/woodsy types, if you don't mind me asking?

I did it! Worked beautifully. I got both ends of the spectrum in CAS (that's the BJD skintone and the Klingon skintone) and everything came up as possible kids in CAS. This is great. Someone asked about the elvish woodsy so I'll throw out a run-down of what I put where if anyone is interested. I don't think anyone else could use the files though, since I've got various bodyshapes mixed in as well:

.01: Ephemera BJD skintones and vampire skintones (Enayla Pixie Haunt, Pixie Hunter and Porcelain Doll)
.03 to .07: Asian skintones by Chakaru, Ephemera and Enayla

The rest contain normal skintones by Enayla, Summersong86 and Oepu, some have Allen ABQ hair added, Bodybuilder, CPU, Fat, skinny all sorts of bodytypes mixed in

.08: Very pale skintones
.09 to .14: Maxis light
.3 to .33 : Maxis Medium
.6 to .64: Maxis Tan
.91 to .97: Maxis Dark, though the last few are much darker than Maxis

1.0 to 1.7: "Woodsy" These are my plantsim skintones, Enayla's Pixie Nymph, Glory, Moss, Ashes and Fiend
2.0 to 2.7: "Greys" Enayla Pixie Winter, Diamond, Dusk, Guilt, Incubi, Royal, Steel, ending with Sim Cribbing's Midnight
3.0 to 3.9: "Alien" Summersong 86 and my recolors of her FX alien, Enayla Pixie Anomaly, Serpent, Elven Ranger's Cardassian, and my recolors of Elven Ranger's Klingon skintone.

Yes, I have way too many skins. This was very easy though. The hardest part was tracking down all the skins.

Next, I'm going to learn how to attach non-default body shape meshes.

umm.. heh.. yes... the hairs come form http://www.hairysims.com/ (http://www.hairysims.com/)
the files are on http://www.insimadult.net/ (http://www.insimadult.net/forumdisplay.php?f=408) (need log in to view it)
there are also the psd file with layer so you can use you skin with AllenABQ's body-hair ........ made by AllenABQ  ;D

I used AllenABQs hair layers on my Enayla defaults. You can easily remove the hair you don't want from the layer(s)  ;) 

What would I do if I wanted to take these out of my game but I already created Sims with them? Would I need to delete those families first? I assume there's no way to change the geneticized skin to the same non-geneticized skin without SimPE. :(

If you delete the families, you could blow up your game. You've been warned.

Well, I know from experience that if you remove a custom skin, the affected sims will pick up the default Maxis S2 skin.  If you replace a geneticised custom skin with the same un-geneticised custom skin, I dunno.  :-\  Maybe the sim will keep the skin, but just end up having it as a dominant custom skin?  ???  Try it and find out.  If you don't like what you see, don't save before quitting.  And report back.  :)

I've noticed lately when you replace skin numbers on a sim in-game their bodies change, but their faces stick to the default S2 skin. Vamping and curing usually works.

As long as they have the same family numbers in the SkinTone XML, seelindarun's suggestion should work.  Dunno if the geneticizers changed this value while geneticizing, but I doubt it -- weren't there some warnings upthread about using the geneticized skins alongside their non-geneticized counterparts for just this reason?

I guess I'll just leave those sims in the bin, then. Oh, well. Thank you.

I was very careful to keep the internal numbers the same so that if someone was switching from Enayla's non-modded skins to these that the sims would retain their skins.  It should work the other way too.

I had theories that one could go above the 1.xx range.  Thanks to justmom to proving that.

My current project is attempting to take AllenABQ's photoshop layers and make costume makeup or eyebrow files that would show body hair, binned genetically so that blonde sims got blonde bodyhair and such.  I'm trying to lower the number of skintones that everyone has in their downloads with this.  But as it's something rather new and no-one else has done it, the project is taking time.

I'm glad that folks are finding this useful.

jmtmom: Not sure if you have come across it already, but I found this tutorial from Marvine was great for doing the non-default replacement body meshes - http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=89397 (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=89397).

I can confirm that this works.  I made a set of eyes, changed the genetic and flags lines only, and made a new neighborhood using a clean template.  I created random townies using the mailbox cheat, and about half of my walkbys had my new eyes.  Thanks, nice discovery.   :)
Check my signature to see the eyes and a couple of the scary-looking townies who got them.

 :) Cool, glad it's not just me, then. I was experimenting mostly because I really didn't want two versions of the same skin on my computer, which is why I steer clear of hairy skins and special mesh skins, as much as I would like them.
I hope creators will one day find a way to layer tattoos and hair onto skin (hint hint Dewshine ;D)

ETA: I'm a Blathering Buffoon now? Yay! A ripped lip!

Actually, I discovered an incredibly easy way to do this here: http://theos.chewbakkas.net/tutorials/tutorial-mesh-linking.html

It seems to have worked. I plan to post some skins I've linked at insim soon.

This may not be the best way to go about doing things, but I tried something a little different. Namely, I extracted the Skintone XML bit from the skintones I wanted to come up for townies. Then I put all of them in one file, and editted the XML files using the method Mens Mortus described on the XML files (changing the flags from 08 to 00 and keeping the creator ID the same, then putting in the number for the genetic range).
Then I named the file with the XML replacements something like "zzz_what-have-you", so that it would load after the real skintones' XML files.
It's working exactly as I wished it to: everything shows up in CAS, on newly generated townies, and on my Sim's newly generated offspring.

Is it actually a bad idea to have the real skintones and the XML replacements in? I don't think it would do any harm. I'm guessing that a worst-case scenario is the overwriting XML bits would be loaded first, and then they just wouldn't work.
But I have my skintones subfoldered, and the "zzz_what-have-you" package in the main downloads, so it's working just fine so far for me.

Yes, that should work, but it's not a very elegant solution.  Why have extra files that require a fiddly loading order when you can just edit the originals for the exact same result?

I will worship you above JMP if you manage this...

Have you seen this over at MTS2? http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=239851&c=1

yes I have, and that is a totally different approach than I was looking at taking.  If I must I'll use that method, but it is for seasons and above, and I'd love my solution to work in every game...  There's always more than one solution to every problem, no?  I think it's a genius of a hack though.

Great! I've downloaded all the "normal" skins and eyes and will add the fantasy ones when I get bored of the new addition.

I wanted, sheepishly but shamelessly to ask if anyone had the last Enayla eyes and skins, which were only available at her website for a short time (http://www.furiae.com/images2/monochrome/firstpage.html). PM me!  :-*

3 skins and 15 eyes yes?  or were there more? 

I think these skins and eyes are Enayla's last creations, yes, and members of her now offline forum also made recolours of them.

I'm in love with these, but I'll guess we'll have to be patient, I haven't seen them uploaded anywhere else so far!

You can find the skins and some of the eyes at sims file vault.

Thanks, there are quite a few unavailable Enayla skins there :).

The only thing they lack now is the Uncertain eye, and that's killing me, as it's my favorite one. *dies*

I tried downloading the geneticized normal pixie skins with the 4-shared link, but I keep getting a corrupted file. Could you post another one? Or, alternately, does anyone have the intact file?

Hmm? I'm not sure - but you could try here http://www.genensims.com/guest/MadameMim/skins.htm My numbering isn't exactly the same as Dewshine's in the 'normals' but I think I have all her skins.

I looked at that, but you seem to be missing one of the darkest pixie skins that I was really looking for. I don't know if I will use many of them out of the set since the plan would be to go through them in game and delete all but say, 5 of them, but I really want the geneticized dark tone... hang on, let me check it...

**edit**
It's the "pixie shadow" skin--maybe I'm just blind, but I didn't see it when I looked. I'm not looking for the fantasy skins, but for the normal ones.

I did download the "chocolate" and "hush" off your site, though, thank you :)

I think it should be me blushing and not you. I don't seem to have Pixie Shadow (or it's companion Pixie Joyless) on the site (or even on my PC). Give me 24 hours to decide where it goes in the scheme of things and convert it and I'll put it up on the site with a companion link here.

0.09 - Pixie Joyless geneticised - http://www.genensims.com/guest/MadameMim/downloads/skins/normals/enayla/pixieJoyless.rar
0.09 - Pixie Joyless npcAvailable - http://www.genensims.com/guest/MadameMim/downloads/skins/npcAvailable/enayla/pixieJoyless.rar
0.96 - Pixie Shadow geneticised - http://www.genensims.com/guest/MadameMim/downloads/skins/normals/enayla/pixieShadow.rar
0.96 - Pixie Shadow npcAvailable - http://www.genensims.com/guest/MadameMim/downloads/skins/npcAvailable/enayla/pixieShadow.rar

Baaah! Thanks a million!

Question: can I have both the NPC version as well as the regular geneticized version installed? I would like to see these skin tones showing up on NPCs occasionally, but I would also like to be able to select them in CAS. Will they conflict?

They will conflict. They have the same GUID (same one as the original too) so you can only have one in at a time.

Which reminds me that I was bodyshopping them out to change the GUID so that you could. Check back tomorrow again and I'll have  npcAvailable versions with different GUID's (to match the others on the site).

Right now I have to go scrub a duckpond/bathtub so that I can turn it into a fishpond/bathtub - Spring is here.

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Ahh, the joys of spring. Fishpond is scrubbed, has had it's enamel fixed, is levelled, plumbed and awaiting many many trips with buckets tomorrow - I hate hose bans.

0.09 - Pixie Joyless npcAvailable- http://www.genensims.com/guest/MadameMim/downloads/skins/npcAvailable/enayla/pixieJoyless_npcAvailable.rar
0.96 - Pixie Shadow npcAvailable - http://www.genensims.com/guest/MadameMim/downloads/skins/npcAvailable/enayla/pixieShadow_npcAvailable.rar

so... if i download only the stuff on this page, will it work ok?  i havent downloaded enayla's skins, but they all come in your packages anyway right?

Yes. The skin (graphic) files are in my downloads. But you'll have to go to the actual pages to download now as the above links will take you to my error page - I'm in the  middle of rearranging all my file links because I was getting so confused about what was where and what I had and hadn't uploaded. Just follow the link in my signature and go to the skin pages to get the files you want.

Which also has the added advantage of giving you a minor preview of the skins before you put them into your game.

I may be confused, but I have had Dewshine's NPC available and the ones that show up in CAS in my game for over a month. Did I bork something really badly? Or maybe you are just talking about the ones that you made and Dewshine's do actually have different GUIDs? I haven't noticed any problems with my game, what kind of problems should I be looking for?

No, you're fine. I borked on those last two - I didn't make them compatible with each other the first time round. Now they are. All the others have been compatible for quite a while now so you're fine.

Sorry-not enough time to read all posts.  Is there a tutorial on how to change the degree of resessiveness that you want on skin and eyes.  Example, I want aliens on the low end of the spectrum instead of the high and certain eyes to be very resessive.  Also, if I could get a quick little note on making skins the default skins (and since hair is genetic too, on how to bin colors with the correct color.  DIAL UP SUCKS?

Thank you

http://www.4shared.com/file/14721662/abf185d/EnaylaGeneticPixieSkins41907.html
the link is not working. Does anyone have a working link?

Try this thread. (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,2966.0.html) It includes a tutorial. You'll have to read to get it though, so I'll wish you luck with that.


If you read the first post, you'll see an alternate place to get the files.

I did read it, but http://www.genensims.com/ is not working.

Yes (as I discovered on Friday when a client wanted to see my webpage and I couldn't show it to her), but the problem is not Genensims, it's me. Well, it's the fact that Sidney Eileen has finally stopped her redirect from http://www.genensims.com to http://www.genensims2.com. So if you'll just try http://www.genensims2.com/guest/MadameMim/index.htm it'll work again - sorry.

Haha! I loved the necromancy warning, Beautiful :).

Anyway, I wanted to tell you talented peeps that Enayla has posted new items over at Insim, including a new skin set, and she's planning to update some more.

So, if any of you were interested in geneticizing them too... *hint hint* make my life complete  :P

Necromancy? Isn't that a Pescado warning?

Thanks for the heads up on the new Enayla skins. I've downloaded them but it may be a few days before I can do anything about them due to a very strange game FUBAR.

My other Enayla 'normals' have been updated to show the genetic value and skin name when you use the ingame cheat simDNA now, and the others will follow (including the DewShine I 'host') when things become a little more rational in my game.

Hee! yes, it's a Pescado warning not to update a long dead topic, but I thought this was a worthy update ;)

Thank you so much for working on it, using all your and dewshine's geneticized skins has really spiced up my game as the genetics aspect of the Sims 2 may be the only reason I'm still playing it!

I'm very happy that Enayla's back in the community, her work on the Pixie skins is exceptional, IMO :).

(/GASP!) Really?  thankyouthankyoubaaabaaabaaa!  :-*
Believe it or not, until now I've actually kept notes of those horrible hex strings to check on gene inheritance...  ::)

I believe you. I have a little list of them against their 'names' so that I can alter the skins of existing Sims when I want to.

Whoo! Let us know when you manage to upgrade them, Madame Mim. I eagerly await.

Pixie Hero, Pixie Endless and Pixie Delicate are now available as 'normal' geneticised and npc Available skins.

Thank you very much, Madam Mim, I'll be sure to download them :).

All available NPC skins have been converted (finally) using Mens Mortus's discovery and are stand alone skins. Dewshine's NPC available skins are currently down for conversion but should be up later today and cat skins will then be converted for offering as NPC available too.

Yay! I just discovered them, thank you for adding the values :-) I keep notes of hex strings too, hahaha, and even a list of the skins in a neat table form so there's no more than one or two skins per value. OCD much? :-[

I always said that I have the heart of a clerk - it may be boring but at least you can find things - at least I can on my HD, my house is usually a disaster.

DewShine's NPC Availables are going back up as I type.

I noticed that Enayla has a new/old set of eyes over at insim.

I know that geneticising eyes is one of the easiest things to do with SimPE but my mac is tool-deprived.  Has anyone done this task for themselves, and would you be willing to share?  Please?   :-*

"In lost my CC thread" I have a link to my geneticized eye sets.

All the skins on my page should now possess a genetic and NPC available version (both of which will display genetic value and skin name in responce to the ingame simDNA cheat).

Pixie Loveless has also been added at 0.05 because Linda wrote and told me I'd left it out (don't ask me how - I could have sworn it was in there already).

I could have sworn it was there, too.  I know I have the older version in my DL folder...  :-\

And to Jelenedra, thank you. :)  My game is a completely different world from what ships because of people like you who mod a little or a lot, and share freely.  You may be interested in this link, though you and I both have way too many eyes as it is:

http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=72996

Apparently, about half of them are new, though all but two of them are new to me.  :)

Is there a tutorial available on how to make NPC-available skins show up in CAS?



Does anyone have the eyes that were at this link? It's broke  :'(

NPC-available skins cannot show up in CAS.
You can, however, re-download the original non-genetic set and they'll work just fine. This way they'll show up just like regular custom content. I think that's right anyway, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.


This link is down as well, which is very unfortunate. I was looking forward to having someone else already have done the work for me. :D

OK, you're corrected. Due to some work by Mens Mortus last year it is now possible for skins to be both NPC available and show up in CAS (see earlier in thread).

As for the 4-shared link. I should have all of Dewshine's versions of Enayla's skins up on my page.

http://www.4shared.com/file/40777380/2ddd6ccf/newPixie4-19-7.html

New link.  Thanks for the email to Myth.  Sorry.  4shared lost my file and I've been busy writing not playing Sims.  I know, there's new skins and eyes... eeek. 

If anyone is interested I have uploaded three 'new' Enayla skins to page one of my genenticised skins today. They are actually older/hard to get skins.

Pixie Doll  0.03
Doll Face  0.04
Angelic    0.05

New Enayla skins posted @ http://www.genensims2.com/guest/MadameMim/index.htm

More new Enayla skins in the Dewshine pages.