More Awesome Than You!

Hi -- this is my first post here so let me start with fully admitting my anti-awesomeness  ;), and also feel free to call me an idiot if this is a stupid question.  However.....

Ever since I've installed a whole bunch of mods from here, my sims are unable to woohoo in cars.  I searched this site, found a thread mentioning this problem by others and in it Pescado directs a user to go to the ofb test directory for the fix, but I can't find it there.  I'm running OFB and am on a mac in case this is relevant.

Also, has anyone encountered the following problem (which is monumentally annoying) and if so, is there a fix?  My sim is on a date and one of her date's wants is, for example, slow dance or flirt, so she attemps it (whatever the want is) and is rejected!  is this normal? it makes no sense!  This has actually happened several times in my game.  ???

Any problems I've had with woohoo in cars have been fixed by re-buying the car.

Is your sim on a date with someone she knows well? I think that if they don't know each other very well then they are more likely to reject incoming flirts whether they want the flirt action or not.

Um...probably not.  She's pretty much a slut.   ;D  I just think it's pretty retarded that if a sim expressly wants to be flirted by or slow dance with another sim and this sim offers, she gets dissed.  I think it's VERY retarded that the game allows for sims to want things they don't really want.  Anyway, what ends up happening is that these wants never get fulfilled so there's really no chance to have a dream date.

Try: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/ffs/ofb/hacks

If you haven't found it already then I have to suggest twojeffs ACR hack (along with JMs romancemod)
http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,4691.0.html


ACR really spices things up  ;)

I think that's realistic enough.  Imagine having romantic daydreams about someone... sure, you'd love to make love to him under the moonlight, or whatever, but it's still pretty disillusioning when he turns to you and says, "So... wanna fuck?"

I don't understand. Did you, or didn't you, want that? Make up your mind already.

You don't understand Pescado because like a lot of men, making love and fucking are one and the same  ::)

I think you're just making up excuses for being indecisive and wishy-washy.

You mean there are men that don't think that making love and fucking are one and the same?? Generally, the former is a euphemism for the latter.

hey, i'm a girl and i think they're the same. i know quite a few woman who think that.

Well, I would never presume that all men (or women for that matter) think that they are both the same, lest I be shot down in flames for tarring all men with the same brush.

When he turns to you and says, "So... wanna fuck?"
The obvious reply is, "Well, of course I want to. I still do. But if you can't managed to be more arousing than 'wanna fuck?' then I will find someone else."

Passion is what is missing from mere fucking to <insert favorite euphemism here>. Without passion you may as well be doing something else with your time.

Well, you have to determine whether they WANT to first before you bother with anything else. Once they've confirmed, *THEN* you punch in the face and smash them over the head with a chair. THAT is when the passion comes in.

When I was in elementary school I had a crush on a classmate, but he doesn't, busy as he is with toy soldiers and stuff. That's why, attempting to seduce him, I started to beat him every day, punches and all, until he collapse so I could kiss him on cheek without wrestling too much. After some months he surrenders and starts to send me little cards with red hearts drawn, so somehow this technique works.

EDIT: drawn not drown ugh

That is actually perversion of a more ancient tradition, where warriors would deliver the hearts of their enemies to their women.

Hey, I agree with JM -- I'ma woman and I NEVER uses the term "make love" - I think it's icky and puritanical and if I'm on a date and have been day dreaming about him he were to ask me, "wanna make love?", I'd be totally turned off because chances are my daydream would have a whole helluva lot more to do with fucking than with "making love".  This being said, my husband ONLY uses the term "make love" (because he's a puritanical Englishman, whereas I am a passionate Latin American) so go figure.  In response to the passion argument, how anyone can say there is more passion in mnaking love than in fucking is way beyond me.

As for the game -- it doesn't make this distinction - and I still think it's unrealistic and retarded.  if the sim clearly wants a flirt or a slow dance on a date, he should accept it.

Oh, and about the car fix - miros directed me to the OFB hack index (which I looked through several times before posting) and either I'm blind (and stupid) or it's not there anymore....can someone tell me what the fix is called?  Also, i tried the re-buying the car thing and it didn't work.

Lastly, I have dled TJ's casual romance, and have been reading the posts about it, but I'm not quite sure that all in my game, if I am uderstanding it correctly and am not sure that I am :-\

and I'm not understanding what your trying to say *laughs* 

Did you download casual romance or autonomous casual romance?  anyway, you can ask any questions you have in the thread for which ever one you downloaded, we don't bite everyone   ;D

I have never heard an Englishman call it 'making love' except on TV, I'd imagine him calling it that has more to do with the puritanical bit rather than the being an Englishman bit. Every Englishman I've ever heard mention sex, even about their significant other has called it shagging, fucking, banging or some other unromantic term. If a man suggested we make love I'd run a mile.

Edited to add: Well, OK, I might not run away, it would depend on the man making the suggestion, because I'm shallow and if he was hot he could say anything at all to get me into bed and I wouldn't care. So I'm either desperate because of my recent dry spell, or I'm just a slut. 

I qualified the Englishman bit, I said he was a PURITANICAL Englishman, and actually, in behaviour he's not puritanical, just in the way he speaks. 

Anyway, Sleepycat -- sorry for the confusion, I forgot the verb in that sentence! I meant that I wasn't sure I wanted all of what TJ's casual romance offers in my game.  I'll reread the whole thing again and if I have questions, I'll post them there.

BTW, my sims can still woohoo in cars in community lots, but not at home, I just found out.  Can anyone just tell me the name of this fix so I can just search for it?  And, does anyone know why this error started only AFTER I installed stuff from here?

Er... I know you did, my point was that I didn't see what the fact he was an Englishman and you're Latin American had to do with it. I guess I just would have said 'my husband is puritanical in the way he speaks, while I'm passionate'. Saying it like that does imply that his being English is part of the reason, even if you didn't mean it to sound like that. My misunderstanding, sorry.

well, I guess I mentioned it because our cultural differences are always in the forefront.  I don't mean to generalise and I'm not saying that all Latinas are passionate and all Englishman are "proper" because that's just stupid, but culture does define us, the question is, to what extent.  One of my best friends growing up was a Latina prude, and I'm sure there are passionate Englishman out there (somewhere), but sociologically and anthropologically there is a rule just as there are exceptions.  In other words, I am sure that being English is a factor in my husband's behaviour, as is my being Latina is a huge factor in mine.

Are they unable to woohoo in cars ever on residential lots, or is it specifically couples with children? If it happens to be the latter, the hack you want is the sshack, but you will still get nanny pop-ups, you just have to hit the "Nevermind" button. Otherwise, sorry I couldn't be more help, all I can think of is do you use the Maxian cars or do you have custom ones? If they're custom, try switching with a regular car to see if that helps.

nope, my sims are all still single without children...but I am using custom cars.

The custom cars are most likely the problem.  I've ended up dumping just about all of them from my game because most cause some error or another eventually (usually stuck motor sounds, but I've had sims come home and the car vanished, or came home an hour after they did, and the didn't get credit for being at work).  Try replacing the car with a Maxis one and see if you still have the problem.

*grin*  I'm female and there is a difference between fucking and making love, and it ain't passion.
There is plenty of passion in both, in fact, I would argue that fucking is pure passion, done raw and "dirty" for the purposes of gratification, regardless of any emotional ties between the participants.  There can be, or may not be, depending on the circumstances.

Whereas "making love" has a whole bunch of emotional stuff rolled into it by the nature of the words.  A one-night stand is never "making love".  It's fucking.  However, a married couple may fuck or make love depending on their mood and their personal tastes.

Personally, I prefer fucking, even with my husband.  "Making love" conjures all these cheesy soft images of very vanilla and boring sex.

So long as a guy doesn't call it "woohoo", I really don't care what he calls it.

Ever notice how some men think of it as fucking, but don't really want to hear you say those words?  (Therefore, they don't call it that in your presence even though they might with others...)  Sims aren't the only silly ones.  ::)

BTW, not suggesting that has happened to anyone in this thread, just recalling one silly ex.  ;D

But as to why sims want to flirt or slow dance and then reject it, I interpret it as a wish to get to know you well enough to slow dance, flirt or whatever, rather than you know, let's get to it right now, right here under the bar...

I think if you tried ACR (+ the romancemod) you would find the game actually makes more sense in regards to romance.  It dosen't make all your sims into whores that will sleep with anything *laughs*

It's possible with ACR to have sims that will Not cheat on their spouse/lover and I can't think of any other hack that makes that possible, the game sure dosen't.


I started my blog about my hood because of a bug but because of ACR my hood and blog continues to entertain me and others. I have never played a hood for this long before! I always ended up restarting and never getting really attached to any of my sims because they didn't seem to really have any personality but now...it's so different I can't explain it other then to say it made my sims come alive to me, they are all different from each other now and they all have their little quirks. For the very first time I actually considered turning off aging  :o 

Yeah, my example could have been better phrased.  It's not what's said, so much as not knowing you well enough (having a high enough LTR) to know what you'd like to hear.  Here's the same set up from the other angle:
You're on a date with a guy who is totally smokin' hot.  You're looking around for a good place to have sex, wondering if you want to take him home or just get right to the good stuff and do him up against the nearest wall... and then he turns to you and says, "Oh snuggy-wuggums!  Let's make sweet, sweet luuuuuv together!"   :P

And here's one just for JMP:
You're on a date with woman who has a scowl like a thunderstorm on a cloudy day.  You've taken her to the local firing range to compare hand weapons, and you've been talking for hours about military hardware and explosives.  You really want to have sex with her, so you start your flirting with a playful little push that slams her into the nearest wall.  As she glares at you with the cracked plaster flaking off behind her head, you put yourself into a battle stance, certain that she's about to make that romantic lunge for your throat... but then she flutters her eyelashes and whimpers, "Oh yes, hurt me!  Make me your helpless little ragdoll!"
;D

You say it more eloquently than I do, using fewer words.   :-*

Ooh, a dirty trick. Obviously, she has correctly anticipated that I would be prepared for a conventional counter-attack and wishes to place me off-guard by forcing me to take the offensive again. But I am a step ahead. I will whip a heavy object at her head in a quick-follow-up move to a feint lunge. While my opponent is unbalanced by the unexpected projectile, I will use the opportunity to finish closing the gap and headbutt with my cranial ridge an attempt to crack her skull.

Sometimes they even want to do things they still can´t. I also interpred it as "they want to get to the point where they cant". But I gess the real fact is that sim´s are completely unaware of there wishes.
Ever told a sim to do something he was wishing for and he gave u that "What? are u serious??"-look?

Yes, there are no functions for a sim to actually identify what he wants and act on those. The reason why this is missing is utterly baffling, as it would seem to be a very trivial function to implement.

JM, your mating rituals remind me of Pierce Anthony's "Xanth" books - you could be a perfect Ogre lover. (except your intelligence would be seen as a default by ogresses)

Oh?  I can only picture Kling-ons.  Okay, so I think they're sexy.

I'm fairly certain this is normal Sim behavior.  I've had two siblings who both wanted to hug each other, but didn't have the relationship numbers to pull it off.  Didn't matter who initiated it, the interaction was always rejected even though they both wanted it to happen. 

I've also had a Sim on a date who wanted to lose his woohoo blossom to the Sim he was on a date with.  Trouble is that their LTR relationship was only at about 60, too low for a successful woohoo attempt.  Weirdly, he was also afraid of falling out of love with the Sim, even though he wasn't in love with her.  I just assume it was some wackiness with their being at a 3 bolt attraction level.

In conclusion: The Sims, they be crazy sometimes.

Obviously those mating rituals are based on my people and culture. Perhaps they are intended as mockery. Except unlike a Klingon, I wouldn't bother challenging someone to a duel over it.