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I've got a dog that i made for a family and it's just a downright nuisance, it's bugging my sims endlessly for things and just being a general pest, and training doesn't seem to fix it.  So i was wondering is there any way to kill animals?  I know you can get them taken off you or they can run away but what i'm asking is can they be killed?  I already tried to burn the darn animal to death already but it proved to have a coat of fire resistant fur.

You sick puppy!! (pun intended)

I believe "Kick till candy comes out" should be added to take out a pet. Or set them on fire (I don't have the expansion, can they burn like sims?).

Unfortunately no they can't as i said in my first post.  Apparently their invaunerable to fire just like toddlers, i guess maxis didn't want us torching them.  Which is a pain since burning stuff is the easiest way to get rid of it.

Try enabling testing chests and adding a death token (shift+click, select kill for those who don't know). Save, exit, and reenter.

 I haven't tried this on a pet but it works on toddlers...
 8)

The only kind death that pets can have is old age.

Thanks guys, and thanks Astraled I'll give the death token thing a go when I can.

There are hacks from JMP and TwoJeffs that cut out most of the pet obsession.

Well there wasn't an option to add a death token but i spawned Rodney's Death Creator and it had the option die of old age for the pet so I did that then a moment later the Grim Reaper showed up to claim him.  The least Maxis could have done was make it so there's a Dog Grim Reaper, like there is in Family Guy.

Dang, old age is too kind for some of them. Stupid Maxis EA.

Doesn't it seem arbitrary who gets saved from disasters in this game? Why toddlers but not kids? Why pets at all? NO invulnerability, I say.

I second that. If Terry Pratchett can have a Death of Rats, I want a Death of Dogs/Cats!
I never liked the invulnerable toddlers anyway. That's no realism... though I did chuckle at that statue of the old lady where the description explains why toddlers can't be burned.

They can't even die in fires?
Unless I've been smoking bad crack again...couldn't you set them on fire in TS1?  Not that I went around setting my animals on fire...but you know if there was a fire...sometimes shit happened.  Why change it?  Why not let things just happen like it would in real life...dogs..cats...babies...they aren't fire resistant dammit.

can you starve them to death?  I remember getting rid of sims 1 pets that way...  but I guess animal control would just come and grab them now.

If you starve them I think the animal control comes and takes them away.

*aussieone sticks fingers in ears

Damn all you animal haters.

Just give it up for adoption, it's not like you have to keep it if you don't want it.

Although that is one way to get rid of an animal but when you REALLY want it gone and don't ever want to see it again the only way to get rid of it proper is so that it's 6 feet under.

I think if you starve them too long the animal control takes them away, I'm not entirely sure since I haven't tried it.

If animal control takes them away they go to the adoption pool, you're not getting rid of them you're just torturing them for your own pleasure before you give them away.  If you want to get rid of them get rid of them then have a character you don't like adopt them and then delete the lot.  You'll end up with shredded files but they'll be gone.  Once SimPE is offical for pets you can clean it up.

Well the adoption pool isn't the stray pool. You don't ever have to really see an animal put up for adoption again unless you call do adopt a pet and browse through the current list.

I've found that in my game strays are horribly behaved while the animals I made in CAS generally behaved quite well even prior to any praising/scolding or training. I guess it makes sense.

That's because everyone goes to the same place when they die so every human that enters those pearly gates gets a kicking from an extinct animal.  :D

If you kill it won't you be hounded (ugh) by his ghost? (unless of course you deleted it) Actually i'd love to see a ghostly sim dog or cat.  ;D

There are ghosts of pets.  I had a ghost cat after he died of old age but he never came in the house and roamed around - just the backyard (where his grave was). 

My Sim was outside cleaning up a puddle after the damn dog made a mess in the bath and the cat appeared in the puddle and did this really loud HISS and scared the piss (literally) out of my Sim.  Now THAT, I didn't know ghost pets could do. 

My friend's ghost dog scared one of her teenage sims to death. Now their ghosts are playing fetch together at night!

(Ghost doggie also digs holes. Sigh.)

That's because the strays (and half the premade families with pets) are "reverse trained" as in eat-Sim-food, sleep-on-beds, chew-the-furniture, etc.   I'd like to resurrect Tara Kat's mother and make her live with those spoiled brat cats!

I'm also annoyed with Maxis for not allowing two pets with opposite scores (genius/doofus, for example) to have offspring with a "normal" score in that trait.  Believe me, the doofus pets are going to the adoption agency, tootsweet!

I didn't realize pets don't come out when their in the adoption pool i'll have to remember that.


lol that's halarious.

That's kind of creepy. I thought it was fine ghosts could move things, but digging holes is a pain.

I sort of miss the wild and wooly Sims 1 days where you could decide to off something/someone without social workers and animal cruelty stepping in. Everything was frontier justice-stylee. Sometimes when I was running an eight person house, people would just randomly fight before I even knew they hated each other. It seemed more efficient than all this poking and fuming.

That was one thing that disappointed me...  Tara Kat has no family tree.  We know she's supposed to be the descendant of Ginia Kat, but...  nothing!

there is a food bowl that will let you kill pets, among other things.  i think its christianlov.

there is a super trainer too, looks like a bird.  i loved it, but this time i spawned the game (with new hacks) only a blank picture shows for it and it wont appear when you buy it.  im going to have to work with my hacks a bit...

im really missing the insimenator.

You can use my updated birthday cake.  You can age any sim or pet up to the next age any time, and take them over the edge into death from old age, all in minutes :)

Indeed.

At any rate...I don't really mind the strays in the game...yet anyways...although there have been a few that makes me wish a school bus would come run them over.

can u do it with moveobjects on and just delete the pet?  :P

if you delete the door when the pet is starving inside the room, can the police take it?

I'm with aussie on this one.


Sounds about the most humane way to do the deed, that I have heard so far. :)  All the other alternatives really suck!  Starving them.. ?!  :'(
(Yes, I know it's a game :P) 

OMG!  KILL your pets!

I'm gonna call PETA and report you!   ;D

People for Eating Tasty Animals

This just goes to show you that people like pets more then each other. It is perfectly acceptable to kill a sim which is a model of a human but you can't kill a sim pet. It happens in real life, too. The pets that were trapped in New Orleans after Katrina were flown first class to there owners and yet people were still stuck down there.

That's because nobody thinks pets are smart enough to sin.

That's a little flip, but it's true.  We don't attribute a sufficient degree of free will to animals to believe that they can do evil.  Even when wild animals kill humans, not many people would argue that malice is a motivation.  The same can't be said of humans.  No matter how helpless, no human is believed to be as thoroughly innocent as an animal.

I believe the reason is because humans are generally expected to be held to a higher standard than animals are.

That doesn't explain why fussy babies can't be BBQ'ed. what would be the best thing about ghost toddlers? they don't have the coding to come up stairs and haunt anyone. Outside in the cold night like the bastard child you are! MWHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Evil makes you feel all warm inside. It's the decomposing soul thing; gives off heat.  :P

I've always thought the same thing....that's why i like animals better than people!

well for me the thing is animals dont lie.  if you know how to read their body language, which ive always been pretty good at,  its all pretty clear.  i mean while most dogs and cats love me (obviously wild animals are different) there are some chiuauas (sp?) that dont like me.  but they growl and show their teeth and act all hostile.  you know, i can deal with that.  they dont pretend to like me when they dont just to have someone they can backstab.  and except for a few big carnivores, if you leave them alone, they leave you alone.

Heh, Chihuahuas are like that.  I have a friend who had about 5 of them, and they scared me more than big dogs! They would come at me snapping and growling, little ankle biters. LOL
There was one in particular that was extremely hostile, and while you were standing in the house, he'd just sit there staring at you and growling.  Then one day while I was babysitting their kids, the dog, while still growling at me, sat on my lap and made himself comfy.  I was afraid to move or touch him, lol, but I just kept talking to him in a soothing voice.  Then, after that, we were best friends forever!  Weird little pooches are the coolest in my opinion.  :)
Anyway, once you're a part of the "family" (assuming the dogs ever let you in) they are some of the sweetest dogs alive.
That is just something about the breed.

yeah, what i've been told is that they are extremely family (pack) protective.  aparently they are the only dogs the aztecs kept too!  so funny, when like say the japanese had different sized versions, the akita and the small sihiba uno are both spitz types, closely related..  and maxis messed up the shiba uno, its face looks just like a fox.. but the aztecs had only the tiny ones.  i have a friend now with two chihuahuanas that actually like me.  quite an experience.

back to the main thread, it is indeed christianlov that has a kill food bowl and a kill treat.   you dont have to think of it as killing the pet, its just zapping them to another pet dimmension where they live out...  maybe we should just remember its all digital and they DONT EXIST.  hm, am i into reality today or not.  should i just flip a coin?

You did.  It landed on the edge and rolled away.

i'm intrested in massive pet killing too  ;D
To be honest, i need to clean the hood, there are some way to remove the townies-pets ?
and maybe the townies too


i'm missing insiminator too :(

Dry your tears... it's been updated! (http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=269)  :)

If you really feel the need to expunge an animal from the game, you probably should try the Lot Debugger's deleter tool and the Deletion Tutorial first, not kill it, because killing sims of any kind does nothing to remove them.

I believe Death of Rats takes care of most animals on Discworld. But I do think Pratchett's Grim Reaper is more interesting than EA's. He rides a pale horse named Binky!

Well although that's true.  By simply killing it i can laugh at it's ghost whenever i want.

Just sell it to a townie you really hate.

damn!  that seems to happen a lot to me!  and they all end up where the lost paperclips and socks go.

Lol, where the paperclips and socks go?...You remind me a joke about cosmetics: one husband complaints to another one - "this cosmetic put one cucumber on my wife's left eye, another cucumber on  her right eye, and the third  - no one can find at all"...:).

sucks in cheeks on visual....    looks for another coin to flip!

you are my hero  ;D