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TS2: Burnination => The Podium => Topic started by: pcgeekri on 2006 October 09, 18:53:22



Title: Autosocialize seems to need help, well sometimes
Post by: pcgeekri on 2006 October 09, 18:53:22
This has been going on for some time now and finally decided to type about it.  Strange things with autosocialize, playable sims getting stuck on topics the other sim doesn't want to talk about for example.  This mostly occurs when playable sim has been told to socialize - friendly on a townie or visiting playable sim with nuetral or unactracted attraction.  Playable sim gets stuck on topic that the other sim doesn't want to talk about.  Then once friends has occured the "friendly hug" happens too soon and there went 10 points worth of yaking down the tubes. 

When there is at least one lightining bolt or more the mod works flawlessly, instant 100 point friends (almost instant), very Awesome.

FYI have all Expansion packs installed including holiday, FFS, and Glamour.  Yes Maxis bit me pretty well. 

Thanks,

Pcgeekri




Title: Re: Autosocialize seems to need help, well sometimes
Post by: jsalemi on 2006 October 09, 19:01:51
When there is at least one lightning bolt or more the mod works flawlessly, instant 100 point friends (almost instant), very Awesome.

Well, not always -- I have a CAS YA that I'm intending to be a 'modified Legacy' (i.e., I won't give up my hacks :) ) founder, and he has 2 bolts with a girl in his dorm, but they almost never find a topic in common.  Autosoc pretty much is a waste of time with her.  He's got a pretty good relationship with a 1-bolter, so I don't really worry about it too much.  But it does fail on occasion if the two sims have maybe only one or two interests in common.


Title: Re: Autosocialize seems to need help, well sometimes
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 October 09, 19:11:54
Some people are just not meant to get along, and both manual operation and AutoSoc will just find it to be an uphill battle against them. Try the "Unfriendly" option instead, I'm sure it will work better. For factors not entirely obvious, some sims just refuse to get along, and trying to tune things to be ultra-conservative to account for these people results in AutoSoc being paralyizingly ineffective in the general case.


Title: Re: Autosocialize seems to need help, well sometimes
Post by: jsalemi on 2006 October 09, 19:14:23
Funny that they won't get along even with 2 bolts -- I would have thought the attraction system took interests into account.  But wait, this is Maxis -- what was I thinking? :)

I'll have to try the 'unfriendly' version next time I play that dorm and see what happens.  If nothing else, every Legacy house should have a 'mortal enemy' house....


Title: Re: Autosocialize seems to need help, well sometimes
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 October 09, 19:37:28
Funny that they won't get along even with 2 bolts -- I would have thought the attraction system took interests into account.  But wait, this is Maxis -- what was I thinking? :)
Bolts are only weakly, if at all, influenced by interests, and bolts have zero influence on the acceptance of talk/chat actions, which is determined purely by interests.


Title: Re: Autosocialize seems to need help, well sometimes
Post by: pcgeekri on 2006 October 09, 19:50:51
Cool, and yes some don't just get along,

Okay, I understand.  Well there's always Kicky Bag.  lol  Takes more time but it works. 

Thanks,

Pcgeekri


Title: Re: Autosocialize seems to need help, well sometimes
Post by: idtaminger on 2006 October 09, 21:05:35
Funny that they won't get along even with 2 bolts -- I would have thought the attraction system took interests into account.  But wait, this is Maxis -- what was I thinking? :)

You can be wildly attracted to people with whom you have nothing in common. After all, lust isn't dependent on conversation. ;)


Title: Re: Autosocialize seems to need help, well sometimes
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 October 09, 22:18:29
You can be wildly attracted to people with whom you have nothing in common. After all, lust isn't dependent on conversation. ;)
I really don't see the logical reason why you'd want to do something like that. Not to mention that "STFU" does not tend to make a very good conversational starter. Plus someone who's insipid blather fills me with homicidal rage is not someone I want anything to do with.


Title: Re: Autosocialize seems to need help, well sometimes
Post by: Sagana on 2006 October 09, 23:06:12
I thought you enjoy those homocidal rages


Title: Re: Autosocialize seems to need help, well sometimes
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 October 09, 23:14:59
I thought you enjoy those homocidal rages
No, I enjoy getting to indulge in them. There's a difference.


Title: Re: Autosocialize seems to need help, well sometimes
Post by: Sagana on 2006 October 09, 23:19:37
Well you gotta have them to indulge them. I mean, what fun would it be to come up with a homicidal opportunity, only to discover you'd been too good at avoiding insipidly blathering folk (that is to say, everyone) and thus weren't raging?