More Awesome Than You!

Does the tip money from playing instruments, dj, free-style and barista, count towards this goal?

Any money they get counts, as long as they earn it.

The stupid thing is that money from selling businesses or community lots also counts.

So you could grab one small community lot and repeatedly buy and sell it and the LTW would be satisfied within minutes.

Stoopid maxis!

Shcolarships don't count, and neither does inheritance.
Everything else I've seen does.

Those $50,000 chance cards are yummy.

I never really thought about the scholarships not counting...  what on earth where they thinking! ARGH!!

Too early in the morning to deal with maxian incompetence!

It's because of that stupid selling a business thing that I've stopped running them.  It drove me totally crazy.  Can there not be a fix for this?  It's very badly needed.

The "earn 100K" is related to the fortune sims. In the basic TS2 it was an obssessive  want, now it is a life want.

If you don't have OFB, you can earn it only by writing a novel, and selling it. For this task, your sim has to have 10 creativity skills. Writing a novel takes long time (at least 14 sim days), and not each sell gets 100K.

I suggest you to use JMP's  clock, and change this awful LTW.

I can see that there is an argument either way for including inheritance money in money earned...  but to no include scholarships is just downright ludicrous!

If we're requesting fixes, that's one I'd like to see done if at all possible...  I guess it's probably due to the fact that the sim may earn the scholarships but not actually go to uni, so may never actually receive that money at all.  Is this because they can't count money that goes with the sim when they leave home as money earned?

Gali, it's not just money from selling novels, it includes money earned from employment and chance cards, and is actually a pretty easy LTW to achieve, even if it is one of the longer ones to do.

Umm, even on the twentieth or thirtieth novel my Sims have never got more than about $6,000 for a great novel. The rule seems to be that anything above $2,000 counts as a bestseller. I must be doing something wrong if novels can get to $100K!!!

The weirdness of fortune Sim wants also gets me with regard to selling a masterpiece... they don't have to paint it themselves for it to fulfill the want, which kind of makes it easy for teens to fulfill when their grannies live with them. The elders paint the pics, the youth get the AP bonus.

Awful? It's the quintessential free form Fortune LTW. One of the best ones in the game, too, as it can be satisfied hella-early, just like the Max All Skills LTW, even without using the real estate exploit.

Yeah, it's an easy want to satisfy. I never even really bother trying to earn it; I just make sure it's the fortune Sim who does any money tree harvesting, and let them get on with their fortune Sim things, and it comes along rather quickly. You can put them in any career you want, too. Great want. A lot better than the "reach golden anniversary" one, which can't be achieved until the Sims are elders.

Grilled Cheese is the tough one. But oh so tasty.  ;D

I don't get money trees. Do they yield more cash the older they get? They seem to only offer a little bit of cash at a time which makes it seem not worth it to me. The only way I've ever satisfied the 100k want is a lucky chance card and the buy/sell business exploit.

I haven't messed with them much myself for ages, but if I remember right, you get 1 measely simolean if you harvest while not gold or above, and 40 per tree if you are.

You pretty much have to have a whole grove of the damn things to make them worth bugging with, along with hacks in place (or locks) to keep everysim in the neighborhood from robbing the damn things.  I'm thinking Macrotastics also has a harvest the trees thing which would probably go a long way to making them less of a horrid little tedium and more almost worth placing on the lot too -unless I had another brain fart, which is always possible.  :P

-Kitt

If you harvest 25, that's 1000 each time you harvest. That's a pretty good day's work, I'd say.

If someone writes a novel and a different sim intercepts the phone call, who gets 'credit' for earning the money: the one who wrote the book or the one who "received" the call? I believe that someone gets credit for selling masterpieces that they haven't painted themselves.

@ dizzy -

I'm not saying money trees aren't worth getting, just that, without some hacks in place to help make them a bit less tedious and/or to prevent neigbor sims from looting them the first chance they get, they have too high an annoyance factor for me to bug with.

I may give them another go if they feel apropriate somewhere now that I'm using macrotastics and I'm pretty sure I've got the savethetrees hack in place, which would, as I said, decrease that annoyance greatly.


I believe the novel credit bug was fixed in the NL patch.

Maxoid Tom speaks. (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,561.msg20826.html#msg20826)

So, unless I'm mistaken, if you don't have a patched version of NL (or presumably a patched later EP one would think), then the sim who answers gets the credit, but if you do then the sim who wrote it should get their proper due.

And yes, anyone can sell a masterpiece -regardless of who painted it.

-Kitt

Novel Credit may be one of those "fixed but not fixed" bugs. No Plagiarism is apparently still listed as current....which means like many things Maxis claims to have fixed, they may have lied about it. I'll doublecheck it.

Masterpiece selling is not as specific to the sim doing the selling because there's no blurb text suggesting that the sim actually owns the masterpiece that is being sold. Publishing novels is somewhat different.

*Facepalm*  D'oh.

You're probably correct.  I knew it'd been fixed, and when I searched that was what came up so my brain decided yeah, it musta gotten fixed in NL.

Checking again however, I do play with the No Plagiarism hack in place, so it was probably still borked otherwise.  My bad.  Every now and then I momentarily forget about all the individual shiny and awesome things that make up the DC.  :P

-Kitt

I like that one for family sims.  Transition to elder in green (or lower) aspiration, throw an anniversary party as soon as practical and then I have happy elders who don't live quite as long.  Suits me great.

The drawback being they spend their teen and adult lives moody and sulking all the time, or annoying everyone else.

As most people in real life then.

I think it's because of the way scholarships are handed out.  Sims never actually get the money handed over with the kaching sound and all that, they just leave their childhood home and when they enter the college the money is theirs.  The money counter probably needs to hear the "kaching".

Last time they calimed to have fixed it, I naïvely took out noplagarism and promptly had a sim steal his grandfather's novel.  I was very annoyed.
I'm keeping noplagarism until Pescado tells me I can remove it.

although, there's a kaching with inheritances, but they aren't counted...

Yeah, I don't know why that doesn't count.
Ask someone more awesome.

Wow, I didn't know that the lifetime want could be fulfilled in one shot, by having some stupid townie purchase a lot priced at 100K!, silly Maxis...
I won't fulfill it that way though, to easy, at least not yet... ;)

You don't earn an inheritance. Well, unless it's a situation like a Caliente marrying Mortimer Goth or something.

Hey! Cowplants don't just drop from the sky, you know. Nor do swimming pool ladders disappear of their own accord. Damn straight they earn their inheritance.

Three cheers for the rubbish Sim cops.

You only get inheritances through deaths from old age - nothing else.

Damn! That's blown my pose as a hard-core maniac. Truth is, I have never actually killed a Sim before their time. Now you all know I'm just a big girl's blouse.  :-[

Well, you COULD have Mr. Big or The Diva move in, bring their millions with them, and then they have an, umm, 'accident'... :)

When I had one of my Sims marry The Diva, she didn't bring in a lot of money as I thought she would.   ::)

Or use Rodney's (?) Death Creator to old age them to death. But that's too easy.  :P

There used to be a bug that caused Mr. Big and the Diva (and maybe most downtownies) to bring in some rediculous amount of money.  I have a hack called 'no_lottery_movein_fix' that fixed that -- maybe it keeps Big and Diva from also bringing in the funds they're supposed to?  Check to see if you have that one.  I forget where I got it from....

jase did that one *uses it too*

I don´t think that is the case. I don´t have that fix in my game and the Diva still brought only about 70,000 with her.
But I am not sure how much she is supposed to bring with her, as I have never moved her or Mr. Big in before. Can anybody tell me how much they are supposed to bring with them?
Maybe it is random.

Well, 70k IS a lot more than the average townie brings in (usually between 1k and 18k if your sim is lucky).  It may be a random amount -- I haven't had any sims move in either of them yet, but I do have one who's on the hunt. :)

My guess is, borked ratio or altered in later releases after NL due to Maxians changing their mind based on field studies of real-life Divas and Mr. Bigs. :P

Does moving 'The Slobs' in come with benefits - dental plan, infestation or new life direction?

I think you get $19, which places you slightly shy of half a pizza.

I was under the impression that slobs carried Renuyu-chugs. Haven't moved one in to find out.  ;D

Slightly off-topic, but how much money does a sim need to be considered rich? I've never been able to fufill that want.

All nonplayable sims carry Renuyu chugs when moved in. To be rich, a sim needs to bring $50K, but it doesn't count for special sims like Big/Diva due to various bugginesses in coding.

if I remember correctly, the "rich" sim also has to wait to move in untill they marry, if moved in and then married it dosen't count

Me neither.  I even recently reloaded the game on my laptop and started with a fresh Pleasantview.  Dina Calliente got engaged and married to ol' Morti as he stood on the sidewalk, and even she didn't have the 'marry rich sim' want filled.  I did it for her... :)

I've had the memory appear when the married Sim has typically hit greater than 100k which was obtained through the Captain Hero chance card (50k sum).
The "Earned 100k" or "Earned Lots of Money" memory may have to be present to validate the 'Marry a Rich Sim' criteria.

I've got base game and OFB only.  Base game doesn't have LTWs, and this doesn't exist as a LTW in my game now I've added OFB.  I don't think I've seen it as a normal want either.  I think it came in with Uni. 

I've never got 100k for a novel sale either.


I have a notepad file quoting Pescado:

"Okay, the definitive requirements for "Marry a Rich Sim".

Your resident sim will satisfy this want if the following conditions are all met:
1. The sim being married into the family lives on another lot. The other sim must live on a DIFFERENT lot, and must not be in the fambly bin.
2. The sim moved in must bring at least $50K in cash. The amount of cash brought is equal to 10% of the original family's cash reserves, or the entire networth if that sim lives alone.

The sim moving in will satisfy the want if the following conditions are met:
1. The family that the sim is moving into has a networth of at least $50K, including the value of furnishing, home, and cash reserves.

Otherwise you fail. It has nothing to do with memories of how much money a sim has earned, etc., etc. This is it. It is purely determined by networth/money added to family, with aforementioned "must not be in the fambly bin" caveat. End of story.""

Ah. Then the reason that Dina didn't get the want fulfilled in my new game is that I played the Goth lot first, and did some things that dropped their worth below 500k.  So Mortie moved in with about 49k.

I have moved in a Mr. Big/Diva at least 3 times and each time they have brought 70,900 simoleans exactly, which as stated previously is much more than any other townie, downtownie, or NPC brings to the household.  I just assumed this was a fixed amount.

It may well be a fixed amount.  I have a sim that's very close to getting the Diva to move in with him -- I'll see what happens when she does.

I moved in the Diva a few days ago, she bought in about 70k.  If you add up all the other items which come in the inventory (telescopes, dj booth etc) then you could easily say it's over the 80k mark.

Very easily above the 80,000 mark... I married the Diva into a legacy (/me glad that /me doesn't count points) and I could upgrade that small shack to a large 2 story mansion deluxe plus two luxury cars plus various entertainment objects. The last thing was probably pretty dumb to do, as I bought almost the same items back that I had previously sold. Ahh well, who needs planning? :)

Just wondering - do servo's count as normal sims for financial calculations?  Like marry a rich sim and inherit from dead sims?

Gary, the romantic mechanical wizard made his fortune with a home business selling robots.  He initialised a servo to help him run the business and when I realised it was a romance servo :o, Gary made a second female servo to keep him satisfied.   If some gold-digging sim proposes to and marries Gary, he'd count as rich if he is living alone (ie if the servos don't count) because he's worth over 50k.  If the servos count, then he'll have to have 500,000k in cash in order to take 50k with him.  That's a big difference!  And it leaves the romance servos with 450k plus the assets!   

So are servo's real sims?  Do we want them to be?
I guess I can test it when I've finished chasing the sick bug around my 'hood again.  Sickness may not spread on community lots any more, but it sure spreads in home businesses! 

If servos count,  I guess she'll have to move in with him (but that requires him to take the lead on marriage and he's a romance sim!)  or I'll have to move the servo's out first to leave him alone - that's just annoying.

Yes, servos are treated just like any other playable sim, so if he moved out, he'd get his percentage, and the servos left behind would be very rich.

That figures, but boy does that suck!!!
right ..... plan B ..........  move the servos out so she can ask him to marry her and get all the dosh.  He's "working" up to woohoo with 10 sims so he isn't going to propose to her anytime soon.

Being a 'black widow' can be quite lucrative for a lazy sim who doesn't like to work, though it doesn't count toward LTW, as there is no actual earning of money. I have Brandi Broke moving in rich downtownies, killing them off almost immediately, and then selling their urnstones for $150 a pop. I may have to change her name, because she's not so 'broke' anymore. And with the 'no townie respawn' hack, I end up with fewer of those annoying townies, which is always a good thing. ;D

As far as I know, servos can't move out on their own. I've tried it, and it doesn't work. When you tell the servo to find its own place using the newspaper, it picks up the paper and sits down with it, as usual, but then just sets it down on the nearest surface.

Servos take on the characteristics of whoever initialises them, so if a knowledge sim with maxed skills initialises the servo, then the servo will be a knowledge servo with maxed skills.

Yup, servos take on the traits of the one who turned them on. This also includes personality.
Unfortunately, this doesn't include badges, or permaplat status for that matter.

I got that want by using Carrigons money tree. Worked like a charm and took less than 2 minutes. :)