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Been reading some on "The Sims2 Community" forums.  There's always someone there who gets the game early, and I wasn't disapointed.  But, according to some of them who have hacks installed, the blur hack does not work, and neither does the cheat code. 

I guess Jack Thompson got our game censored.  Asshole.    >:(

I'm sure that it will take some time for the hackers to update the hacks so they work with this ep,  that happens every time they put out an ep.   That's one of the reasons I'm telling my friends not to buy the EP until after JM and 2 jeffs and others get a chance to update the hacks.

I don't think the blur hack doesn't work as a result of Thompson. I think it doesn't work because the code in it is outdated. Even if they were trying to make the curren blur hacks not work, it wouldn't take too long for someone to figure out how to remove the blur again.

Yeh, last time I heard Sir Thompson  ::) dropped his case completly.

Ah, the War Against the Blur.   I think every Sims 1 EP required rewriting the censor patch.  Usually took about 24 hours. 

Bah, this is speculation. While I had a feeling this might happen, and I tend to be always right, there is no Nightlife. However, if this turns out to have any truth to it, well, I anticipated this outcome and can probably think of something.

Well I ain't buying it if it has that stupid blur thing on it.  I find it particularly offensive on babies.  The fact that they want to 'blur' a baby's nappy bothers me - bothers me a lot, actually.  There is something very unnatural about that.  And if it is that Jack Thompson pervertson, then hopefully it won't affect our game here because it's 7+ rating and our censorship laws are much less strict. 

Sticky censor can be easily fixed with a few well-placed global hacks. I know exactly which functions to change (and I suspect Pescado knows too).  ;D

Well, I figured that it was just a change in the globals for the hack to stop functioning.  That's just basic logic.  My concern was the the cheat code has also been disabled.   :(  But, I knew that you hacking geniuses here would fix my game for me right-quickly.   ;)

Poor censor, no one likes it.  I'll be your friend Mr Censor.  Keep your chin up little buddy.

The censor is pretty stupid anyway,
I seem to recall it blurring Sims on toilets... but why? It's not like they take their pants off to go. Didn't the censor on the toddlers and babies cover almost the entire child?

Here modders, is what Maxiod Tom said on The Sims 2 Community Forums.  It goes over my head.  so, without making this a big discussion in Jack Thompson and Politics and Perverts and whatever, can someone just explain to me the ignorant one what he's talking about, and it it's possible to fix this?

How about I post what I said and people can judge for themselves:

First post:
"A word of warning:

The two trees modified (669 and 670) in this hack have been changed in Nightlife to add more functionality (for Turn Ons/Offs). If any users decide to use this hack, the functionality for sims being turned on/off by a sim in a certain category of clothing (formal/swim/underwear/etc.) may not work--a bug which will probably later be blamed on Maxis, I'm sure.

This is because any hacks will override what shipped with the game.

Overriding global trees/functions may cause problems for future expansion packs. I strongly urge modders to take a look at what has changed in Nightlife (and for future expansion packs) in terms of global functions and what not--otherwise users may encounter problems with incompatible hacks and may not know the source of it all.

Things may *appear* to work within the limited context of the hack, but undoubtedly something Maxis added for new features or fixes will get lost in the shuffle."

Well, I was about to make some improvements that would have rendered what MaxoidTom said obsolete, but Delphy in his infinite wisdom decided to lock my thread. I'm so disgusted by all the ranting people were doing that I can't even blame Delphy for doing it.  >:(

I just found this bit of news at snootysims.com:


Darn.  I liked the cheat because it didn't have to modify the game files so you couldn't install patches, and theoretically, it would have been compatible with any future EPs.  But who would have guessed this would happen and they would take it out altogether?  I see no other reason for them to do this than because of that stupid Jack Thompson.  Makes me wonder what else they changed or disabled?

Meh.  I'm not especially fussed.  I guess it was only to be expected, but I usually keep the blur on anyways.  The one time I removed the blur it looked so strange I had to put it back on!

To me, it looks strange with the blur ON.  Very unrealistic, and annoying.  Slows the game down too.

Could someone point me to some info on this Jack Thompson issue. I seem to be a bit out of the loop on this one. Thanks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_(attorney)

I didn't know who he was until I got to the 2LiveCrew part. Then I said "Ohhhh, THAT asshole."

(Emphasis mine)

Was that a jab at those of us who have been bitching nonstop on the forums about a Uni patch?  That's sweet, Tom... really sweet.

Ooooh, poor Maxis! They're the innocent ones in this whole mess of patch demanding! They don't MEAN to make their games buggy! [/bullshit]

I, for one, am quite fond of the fact that the blur is gone. I am also quite fond of my males... err... added genitalia. I just don't think it'd be the same without it, so it is one of my many reasons why I am going to wait to get Nightlife.

This precisely the point: Blurring sims on the toilet is done precisely *BECAUSE* they don't and can't, and the blurring out attempts to cover up this and leave that part to your imagination because sims...well...can't.

This is basically meaningless, and simply states that global override hacks will have to be checked and updated at every expansion pack. Trivial and obvious, really. Don't use hacks for versions of the game they weren't intended for. Duh.

I understand - animations, different clothing styles etc.. and have no desire to see them doing so anyway.
My point simply being that because they don't, the blur is even more ridiculous.

Ah, as one person who invoked the, er, ranting, in the MTS2 thread, I should probably apologize.

It was wrong for me to offer $50 to someone who shoots Jack Thompson.  That price is far below market value for that kind of contract.  I hoped someone would take it on as a personal project.  :P

And, yes, I'm not really serious.  Maybe I shouldn't assume John/Jane Q. Simsfan will find assassination-related humor entertaining.

Actually, it is because we are blamed for practically everything.  Then again, it is probably all my fault.

Glad I could help.  Of course the context of the thread was that people were attempting to use a hack made for the base game or Uni in NL--just trying to point out the obvious, but what do I know?

AAWWW HatedMaxoid, it's probably not all your fault.  :-*

For example, there is no possible way you could have been responsible for the last ice age.

AH, but what everyone is failing to see is that his remark was aimed, not at the intelligent modders such as one finds here, but at the kind of people who are regularly given billing in Retardo land.   Maxis has to deal with the lowest common denominator, ie the user with the intelligence of a sea slug.

Now now, what have those poor sea slugs ever done to you  :P

I'm sure someone here could find a way to disagree with you. =)

yeah what have the sea slugs ever done to you, in fact by comparing the Average BBSheep to a sea slug, you are in fact degrading the whole Sea Slug community.

And, HatedMaxiod, we don't blame EVERYTHING on EA/Maxis.
EA/Maxis is not the most evil company out there.  There is still Disney afterall  ;)

I apologize in advance  if I am speaking incorrectly for the masses.

I feel, and guess that most here would agree to some extent, that Maxis/EA is not evil. We are all here because we enjoy playing the Sims games. The Sims (and TS2, of course) are amazing games and obviously are the result of much creativity and hard work.
We understand that in an undertaking of this magnitude bugs and/or glitches are inevitable. We do not curse you for this. We curse you for your unwillingness to fix them in a timely manner.

Expansion packs are great; they add dimensions to gameplay and modify the game so that it can remain in play longer without growing stale. However, do we really need a new EP every 6 months? I would suggest slowing down the releases so that the EPs can be more thoroughly beta-tested, and time can be found to create a patch for whatever problems have been found. Of course, no one asked for my suggestions. Ah, well...

I, for one, am going to stick to my earlier statement. I Will Not Buy Nightlife untill Uni has been patched and I have heard feedback from others on the extent of new bugs.

Now, for anyone I may have included in my collective we that cares to disagree, it is your turn to rant.

Well said, Kitiara.  I for one am in complete agreement with your statement.

Well, that's how customer service goes, and I say this as someone who had worked in customer service for several years. To all of us end users, as our point of contact, you are all of Electronics Arts and Maxis. It's nothing personal and obviously no one is mad at Tom because we don't know you. People are just frustrated with problems with a game they otherwise enjoy and would prefer to work without problems. :)

The internet is a magnet for drama and emotions run high. I know I've certainly got caught up in it on multiple occasions. :p I also admit to not having the best opinion of Electronic Arts or huge corporations in general and I kind of remember the good old days when some geek in a basement was making games because he loved doing it.

But no one hates you as a person. Okay well maybe Pescado does, but he hates everyone so it's nothing personal. ;)

you forgot Microsoft

No I didn't, not even I am so careless as to mock Microsoft on a machine that is running Windows.
Don't you know Microsoft is watching everything we do on our computers?

BTW I LOVE MICROSOFT YOU GUYS ARE GREAT  ;)

That is decidedly true, well said Kitiara and Motoki. Nobody hates the maxis employees personally, we resent being treated as if we were invisible. If we all but would be so fortunate as to hate the game, we could just chuck it into the dustbin, shrug it off as a learning experience, and forget all about ea/maxis and ' the sims'. But we do like the game, it is a wonderful concept, and the possibilities (if they were working correctly) are endless.

The resentment started a while ago, with me in any case, with the appearance of the dreadful 'jump bug' in the base game. When first reported we received the now standard: "uninstall, reinstall, uninstall, reinstall... ad infinitum", or the even better "it's all your fault, you don't know how to play the game right" (my personal favorite); another winner from customer service: "it's downloads and hacks" and not to forget "your computer is probably not up to it". When ea/maxis finally admitted that it was a genuine programming bug, MTS2 modders had already put out a fix for it, two month ahead of the company that reaped the benefits of our purchase of the game.

We then experienced a replay of the same scenario when the Uni bugs crawled out of the woodwork. Once again it took a long time for the company to even admit to the bugs' existence, and then we were treated to "we don't plan to put out a stand-alone patch for Uni". The screaming and yelling that unleashed changed the company's mind, supposedly. But other than a few strokes and pats, we haven't heard anything specific about a patch yet (officially, that is).

Our problem is therefore that we like the game. Without the talented people such as JM and twojeffs however, many of us would no longer be able to enjoy playing. The company that took our money seemingly abandoned us, that is the reason everyone is so upset with the corporation of ea/maxis, not with the individual employee.

So unless you are the one who made all these extremely unpopular decisions, no, no one hates you personally, just what you represent is looked at with a critical and, unfortunately, cynical eye by the consumer.

I don't hate Maxis/EA. I don't even hate Wal*Mart. But I do vehemently HATE that censor blur!

All discussions of Jack Thompson aside, you should try seeing that blur through the eyes of someone with...shall we say, certain "perceptual limitations" (I'm using that euphemism because some people don't believe attention deficit disorder exists, especially in adults). It's like a giant insect on the screen, twitching and vibrating its wings and drawing your already challenged attention to it and holding it like a glue-trap.

Since I simply CANNOT play the game with the censor blur activated, I will not be buying Nightlife until there is a way to deactivate it. And since I can't see helping a company profit that will not help me, I've shut down the Sims2 areas of my website until there's a way to deactivate the blur, so I can buy and play Nightlife.

~Hairfish
Mermaid Cove
www.mercosims2.com

I have very bad eyesight and I found that it actually hurt my eyes.  It sort of flashes and I know what you mean about your attention being drawn to it.  It's far too big as well.  I just feel that at the age of 51 (in my MIDDLE-AGE lifespan) I shouldn't be told I can't look at a man's willy.  It's not as if I haven't seen one before (although not for a while, I must admit.  Maybe I need to find a real one to look at ... sigh).

Bravo Veilchen, quite eloquent. And true. :'(

Or lacktherof ;) It's not like they actually have one once you remove the censor blur.

I still don't get why it's okay for kids to undress Barbie dolls (and every kid I have ever seen play with them does) and look at the plastic genital-free nudity and yet for a game like TS2 to be rated Teen, not G mind you, Teen, then that same sort of non-nudity nudity is not allowed. Sometimes ratings boards and American society in general just doesn't make any damned sense to me.

As a fellow MIDDLE-AGER (46), I'm on that bandwagon with you. In bifocals.

Motoki, I've argued that logic with others ~ who don't play the Sims, but have read Thompson's propaganda ~ and they just don't get it! Those who don't actually play the game believe what he says about pedophiles using naked Sim-children to practice their disgusting acts. Not only do they not believe me when I tell them there are no such animations in the game, that children can do no more than HUG an adult, or give a friendly family kiss, they don't seem to grasp the fact that, as the game is shipped, those actions can only occur while the Sims are both fully clothed, with no blur. And if anatomically correct and "invisible clothing" skins are used on a child (shame!), the only time the blur bothers to show up is in the tub or shower, or on the toilet. And Sims shower and pee alone. So what's the point?!?

It's like talking to a stump.

[Edited because I forgot toilet blur.]

woohoo & makeout are far more explicit sexually then a barbie doll in a shower. Bizarre

I know.  If I was a censor I would get rid of the woohoo option, especially that tacky cut-scene video.   I wouldn't bother with blurs as it just draws more attention to the naughty aspects of nudity instead of letting it look natural and innocent.

Funnily enough, since that Jack Thompson started fussing, a google search of The-Sims draws out pages and pages of matches containing the words "labia, genitals, penis, pubic hair", which it never did before.   If you have children googliing for things to do with their favourite game, that is going to expose them to far more of the subject he was hoping to avoid them seeing than ever before he piped up.

My beef with the blur is that it SLOWS THE GAME DOWN. I hate that aspect of it, therefore I kill it.

Same here, dizzy-two. I could live with the blur for the whole silly cartoony aspect of the game if it didn't slow my poor laptop down to the speed of a snail over broken glass with it on in, say, a dorm, where more than one sim may be showering/using the loo at once. It causes a major performance hit, so off it goes. I'm going to be preeeetty unhappy if I can't find a way to turn it off with NL.

Ditto for me. I think the whole woohoo thing is far more risque than someone taking a shower in the nude with plastic barbie doll non genitalia and no body hair. I mean gee two people get under a bed and roll around under the sheets and a woman can get pregnant from doing this. Gee, I wonder what they are doing.  ::)

I guess the ratings board feels the thinly veiled and heavily implied sex with giggles and fireworks and that can lead to pregnancy is more acceptable than non sexual, non explicit genitalia-less body hair-less nudity. That's pretty much saying anything is okay as long as there is no nudity under any circumstances, including infants and toddlers being bathed or having their diapers changed.

I think there's this underlying idea somehow in Western society and definitely it's heavy in American society, that nudity=sex. Having lived in Japan for a time, I can tell you there they have public baths and show bathing with nudity on television during the daytime. To them bathing is bathing, which you obviously do nude (duh) and sex is sex and they are two separate things.

As for people thinking pedophiles play the game to interact with children sexually that's just ignorance and willfull ignorance at that, but people do that kind of stuff all the time. How many times do people scream about how terrible some book or movie is when it turns out those people haven't even read or seen the damned thing and flat out refuse to do so.

Oh, please dear God I hope there is a way to remove the blur. I'm installing the game tonight, and I want to be able to see my beautiful custom skins!

If I lived in England, my son would be old enough to play the game. You said it was age 7, right, Inge? But Jamie happened to look at my laptop as two sims jumped under the covers, and he asked what they were doing. Now, he has Asperger's, and is extremely literal. If I would have told him what they were doing, he would walk around school talking about sex and going "honk! honk!". And I'd get yet another note from the teacher.  ;D

I, too, find it insulting that we apparently have to be shielded from barbie doll (or *gasp!* anatomically correct) nudity. Especially on the babies. What sicko thought we needed that? And we can't see them naked, but we have to make our sims woo hoo with 30 others. Or in public. It's crazy! So it's not the sex, it's the genitalia, apparently. Although calling sex "woohoo" is a weak attempt at protecting the kiddies from what is really going on under those covers .

So, I assume I shouldn't put the userStartup.cheat file back in when I install? Shouldn't typing "help" in the cheat box show the cheat for changing the censor grid, like it does in Uni, or did they leave it out altogether?

I am curious Brynne, what did you tell him?

From what they said on SnootySims.com, they have removed the cheat altogether.

Actually I think the issue of nudity has more to do with puritan efforts than an equation to sex. Nudity is bad, in fact in the Christian bible it was bad when Adam and Eve discovered they were nude, they were in fact ashamed because they were nude, it had nothing to do with procreation.  That's why nude beaches and nudist colonies are so taboo, not because anything goes on, but because of nudity. Which is rather odd when you consider the fact that Barbies can in fact be undressed to a state of nudity, it seems with all the anti nude obsessions that they would have painted underclothes since its not like they really sell underwear and bras for Barbies anyway…

You can be rest assured though that the censor blur will more than likely be the first mod for NL, from various creators.

nectare, I did have a few Barbies with painted on underwear - one must have been bought in '89, the other in '91, and a male doll way back in '83. I've also seen much older dolls that looked like they had painted on undies and bras, but the paint had long since flaked off.  It never ceased to weird me out, even when I was a little kid. And they do make underclothes for them every so often, although not so often I wasn't equally weirded out by the lack of them.

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hmm..I only had a couple of barbies as a kid and was always reprimanded if I undressed them by my father. They didnt have painted underclothes and nether did any of the ones I bought my daughter, I guess I just assumed they had always been that way.
We have such odd notions about nudity, at least in the US, I hear other countries, except Arab/middle Eastern countries, dont have quite the issues with nudity that we seem to.

ROTF Brynne!!  Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt.  ;)  When Allen was in 2nd grade, he drew a big stick figure, put two round circles on about where her shoulders should have been, and wrote "bobies."  His teacher was horrified.  I proudly put it in his babybook.  "Ahhh, look, Al's 1st porn, and his 1st dirty word." 

Apologies for hijacking this thread.  Carry on.   ;)

That's funny, my mom wouldn't let me have Barbies, so my grandpa gave me one that some of his buddies had given him as a joke decades before.
Don't know how old it is, but old enough to have real hair. It had some rather detailed 'adult parts' ... though I always realized this was probably part of the joke when they gave it to him and surely not 'factory installed' I've never seen a Barbie with underwear.

Zeljka, it could have been a German doll that the Barbie was supposedly based off of that was apparently a kind of adult joke gift as the doll was supposed to be a whore. Apparently the Barbie design was very similar to these dolls.

(I have no idea why my brain soaks up so much random stupid trivia, really.)

Glad I'm not the only one who feels like that.  When I first saw the censor blur on the babies, or toddlers in the bath, it just looked unnatural to me.  It's as if it's saying "This is dirty, filthy, obscene, how can you possibly want to look at this, you unnatural excuse for a human being" and I find that offensive.  Was I supposed to cover the private parts of my 5 kids when I bathed them and changed their nappies then?  Well, would you believe nobody ever told me I had to do that.  If they must leave the censor blur on the adults fair enough, but they really should remove it from the babies and toddlers.  It's incredibly insulting to the vast majority of people.

And I still hold by what I said before that I doubt there are any paedophiles or whatever getting their kicks from a game like this.  Even without the censor blur, the word "tame" is too ... well, tame.

My beef with the censor blur was that it made taking screenshots a pain - the blasted thing showed through walls and floors.

I agree with your description of the blur, Hairfish.  I played Sims 1 again the other day, and I was surprised that the censor blur really wasn't as bothersome as it is in Sims 2.  For one thing, the sims aren't as big, they were only 2-dimensional, and they aren't as detailed.  The blur wasn't "in your face" so much.  For someone with ADD tendencies, it is extremely distracting.  And it irritates the heck out of me when people say that ADD doesn't really exist or that you aren't trying hard enough or you're just lazy.  How can I try any harder???

Lazy?

You'd have to be blind to miss that blaring flickering blur. If anything, it actually drew my attention to the area.

It's so big it actually ruined many of the cutest baby/toddler animations in the game.

I agree, Zeljka.  Some of the cutest animations are with the babies and toddlers, especially on the potty.  When the toddler pats the potty, it's so cute my heart melts.  Also with the sim parent poofing powder on the baby's bottom.  Someone went to the trouble of programming those animations, and with the blur on, we wouldn't even be able to see them.  There is nothing sexual about it.  If someone is sick enough to get some kind of sexual gratification from that, I don't think they would be looking for it playing The Sims, they would be looking elsewhere.

Exactly, because there are so few things that toddlers can actually do, it seems a shame to miss any of it, and the same tenfold of babies.
The toddler patting the potty gets me every time too, as does the happy gurgling baby in the sink.

Now if you had to hold them down kicking and screaming to change their clothes and they started pulling socks off the second you put them down, it would add realism to the game. I don't expect this or particularly want to see it. I'm just saying that anyone who's had or seen a toddler knows they'd prefer to be naked at any given time. We're not asking to see them naked... just lose the flickering box that covers over 3/4 of them.

As for adult skins, why not? EA/Maxis can hardly be held responsible for what people put into their games. They've done what they felt was right. Probably crazy, but aren't my teen/adult/elder female Sims the only ones without nipples? This only draws my attention to the fact that they aren't there, if they had been, I'd barely have noticed it.

It's just weird, I don't think any of this would have been an issue anywhere but North America... home of the repressed and depraved :)

The censor blur seems silly as my 15 year old son pointed this out to me, He said that without the blur it they only look like naked barbie dolls if u have the maxis skins. So should we all kick up a stink towards the naked barbie dolls.

But it's only the player-entered cheat that's been taken out, isn't it?   It's not as if EA have done anything to stop hackers showing the Sims without their blur.   In fact the blur is applied specifically in the hacker-accessible code.  For instance, my doors that make Sims get naked as they went through them never applied the blur in the first place, so it didn't need removing by any cheat.   Those hackers who called the global undress function to undress their Sims will have had the blur applied, whereas those who called the primitive change-outfit directly would not.   It would be a free choice open to those doing the modding.

I have a feeling a lot of people are not understanding this issue fully.

The way I understand the issue is this: The blur removal code was taken out in Nightlife. This makes it harder for players like me, who are non-modders, to remove it when we wish. We now have to wait for some third party to come up with a solution that may or may not be satisfactory to our wants. Why we wish to remove the blur is a secondary issue, but for many of us it is because it causes very real gameplay problems. Making it so we cannot remove the blur on our own effectively hampers our gameplay experience.

I can't understand why so many players want the un-blur hack. I too wanted to see "what is it", and pasted it on my game.

Well, I was dissapointed: all I could see were naked DOLLS jumping here and there...:). There are not sex-organs to show - so what is the big deal? After half an hour I got bored and deleted the un-blur hack. I like my sims with the blur, it's more interesting and imaginative...:).

If the censor blur can't be removed with a simple cheat code, then it will be removed by a modification to the EXE file.  This will be done by thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of players.  And everyone with a modified EXE file will have to change the file back before installing a patch.  If they don't go back to the original EXE file the upgrade will fail.  Anyone wanna guess at the number of people who won't remember to do this, or won't know that they have to?

Smooth move, ExLax.

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Read, gali: It causes a massive slowdown problem for a lot of us, it causes a massive distraction problem for a lot of us because it is very big and obvious, and it shows through walls and floors, ruining picture taking attempts. This is aside from any irritation on the morality involved. The blur causes very real gameplay problems.

Well I know for sure it will drive me crazy, it always did.  I will try Nightlife out and play for a while, but then I will probably remove it until there is a new patch.  Apart from anything else, as our laws here are nowhere near as strict as American ones, the game should reflect this, but I know it won't.  And to the person who said all you can see is Barbie dolls - NOT in my game!  I see men with willies of various shapes, sizes and ... er ... stiffness, and women with varying top-half sizes (as in real-life).  I don't get turned-on by them (I would worry seriously about myself if I did), but I do find that they add realism to the game.  I have nudists walking about all over the place due to crammyboy's mod and I'm so used to this now it will seem very strange to see all my Sims in clothes.  That, however, will be infinitely preferable to seeing naked ones covered in silly little squares.  Oh, PLEASE someone sort that out ASAP. 

Inge: Tom said over at MTS2 that Nightlife also uses 2 of the globals that were used by the current non-cheat mode blur patches, which I believe would still work but you'd lose some of the new Nightlife features. AFAIK it's possible to create a new one that doesn't conflict with Nightlife, but I much prefer the cheat code way because it's much cleaner than modifying the exe.

Remember when the first patch came out and tons of people couldn't patch because the patcher program refused to patch the modified exe? I suppose the best thing to do is keep a backup of the original exe, and I always do if I use some patch that modifies it, but I'd still prefer the cheat code way and am rathered irked that some attention grabbing fool who had no idea what he was talking about caused it to get yanked.

I've just noticed something.  I got my Nightlife a few minutes ago and noticed that it said 12+ on the box.  I checked my Uni box, the same.  Yet the base game is 7+.  Now, is that because the expansions are 'naughtier', or because we've suddenly been subjected to US censorship laws over here?

You know Ancient Sim, I felt uneasy about the blur on the baby when I first saw it last year and then started using the patch so wasn't bothered by it again.  You made a similar comment to this recently on another thread (possibly on - whisper it - another board) and I thought about it for the first time in ages and I think you are exaclty right.  There is something definitely unhealthy and unpleasant about blurring a baby having it's nappy changed (not to mention the silly reaction you get from passing sims but that's perhaps another issue).  It's saying something like, 'there is something corrupt about your gaze on this pixellated representation of a baby.'  Ugh.  It makes my skin crawl.  A baby is just a baby and for that matter bodies are just bodies - to pretend there's something wrong with looking at them is not good.  I can understand that people don't want to look at adult bodies in the game and they should have the blur for that if they want it but blurring the babies is bordering on pathological.

Probably the latter  :P Having played it for a bit, I fail to see how anything in it is any worse than anything in the original game or university.

I told him to clean his room. ::)

You could have told him they were "wrestling"   :D

C

Then he would think you could have a baby by "wrestling".  ;D

Well I wasn't talking about modifying the exe either.  Ok it would be a LOT of work editing all the BHAVs anywhere that get your sim naked, compared to hacking the exe or using the cheat, but I am convinced it's doable.  For myself I am happy with a compromise where the standard objects apply the standard blur, but specially hacked objects will allow you to set up occasions or lots where you Sims can be nude and blur free.   Eg my door and that accompanying patch I made so they don't realise they are naked as soon as they idle.

Okey Dokey ... I tested Dizzy2's censor patch on MTS2 and it works perfectly for baths & showers, although not for the toilet.  I have nudes again!!!  You can get it here: http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?p=746842

Niko has also made one on Sims2Community, although his modifies the exe file and I haven't tried it (apparently it does work, though). You can find that one here: http://www.sims2community.com/showthread.php?p=210184#post210184

This one works fine, you just have to keep in mind that you will have to restore the original exe file before you can install any future patches/EPs.

Karen

There's nothing sick or perverted about wanting to remove the censor blur. I have custom anatomy on all my male sims, and they look good, dammit! It just adds realism to the game, like someone said. It's distracting to see a big blur while the sims are in the hottub.

Crammyboy has a new blur-removal hack that doesn't modify the .exe file at MTS2: http://modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=90125

Crammyboy's hack works well even on the toilet.

I just snorted so hard.

I've always wondered that myself. I love taking pictures with the uni career reward of babies getting bathed in the sink or toddlers getting a bath and hanging them up in the bathrooms for decoration.

Goddamn giant pixelated blob of insanity.

You know, now that I think about it, I never really understood why we needed a blur back when I first installed the original Sims.  I found the no censor patch back then and have been using them in one form or another ever since.  I was so glad that Maxis included an easy way to disable the sensor in Sims 2 without exe modification.  I thought it was an improvement!  Now we are going backwards.  At least Crammyboy's mod is a step in the right direction.

I caved and got Nightlife on the 14th. The animation I missed most when the blur was activated was when toddlers are put into the tub, and lift their feet as if hesitant to put them in the water. My kids used to do that...they're in their 20's now, and all that baby/toddler stuff brings back memories. And, of course, none of it is visible with the blur.  :-[

BUT, I downloaded Crammyboy's blur remover, and it works great. The only place I can't test it myself is on the University campus. I about had a seizure the one time a blurred streaker ran through. Worse than a strobe light!

Anyway, my site's open again.  ;D

I looked at some anatomically correct skins but most of the ones I saw looked silly, like something stuck on and not fitting, these were the male ones of course ;), the female ones all seemed to have gigantic breasts and shaved nether regions and I was more keen on a variety and some realism. The ones I saw were just caricatures really. The male skins with constant erections I felt sorry for...

So where's a good place for anatomically correct skins that look realistic in the game?

I got some nice skins from ParadiseSims (I think). Male bits are "asleep" and "subtle" if you get my drift.  ;)

I posted some skins on MTS2, some people seem to like them. I made them for myself to use with the various add-ons based off of Micl2u's male skin. Nothing bizzare, nethers arent shaved, more of a nice normal "landing strip". They come in the four basic colors with an option to download a second package to make them defaults, although you dont have to make them defaults. I am thinking about redoing the top half of the females though eventually, although I doubt I will repost them anywhere. I dont particuarly like sharing - or should I say I dont like answering a bazillion questions that are plainly answered in the original post. Either way I think they look fairly normal, some people think the nips are a little too big, but I say not every chick has tiny erect nips all the time...meh (I think I have said too much...)

As an aside I am trying like hell to break my nightlife and I havent been able to do it yet...I took out every single piece of custom content (houses, skins, hacks, objects, recolors everything) I had before installing and I had never played the base neighborhoods since the last install so I was playing as if it were a fresh install of all games. So I popped over to pleasantview and set out to wreck some havoc...I think I might be doing something wrong...lol

cheers, I'll check them both out.

I kind of want someplace to stash some of my crap too but don't want to deal with the inaneness, censorship and/or drama at most other places. I most people here more or less have sense, hell the front page alone is enough to confuse the hell out of most BBS types, maybe we should bug Pescado for a board to post our crap. ;)

I'd love to be able to share my anatomically correct skins somewhere other than MTS2 (for reasons already cited). I had to remove access to them from my site when my host instituted a bandwidth limit. They're realistic, non-erotic, very traditional looking ~ no mesh add-ons.  :) But they're BIG files, and were gobbling up my bandwidth at an unbelievable rate! I think people must like them... I tried to upload them to my Yahoo!Group, but it won't take such large files.

If there were space for them here, I'd upload them in a heartbeat.

I downloaded Crammyboy's patch from the link already posted above and it works just fine for me too.  :)  Yay!!!!  Ding-Dong, the blur is dead!!  ;)

How many hours did that take? Censor blur gone already.  Man, wish EA had that fast a turnaround.

EA can't afford that kind of turnaround. If EA could turn around that fast, employees would sue them for whiplash.

I've forgotten what one looks like too, dammit, so need to have gentle reminders hence nekkid sim lads. As to the rest of this post, I know I've come in rather late, but what a goddam twat! Unbelieveable nonsense...  ::)

As for MTS2 and sharing files, I have to say that there are some really ungrateful gits who aren't above bugging the bejeezus outa folk and slagging them down for creating the stuff they're going to use!  WTF ??? (On a bit of a line with them at the mo cos the damn forum is full of morons who can't debate and only like to abuse or flame.)  

Crammyboy has one on MTS2.

quaxi has one at MTS2 that works for me

I saw the one by Quaxi, but I haven't tried it.  I saw Dizzy2 has an updated version of his Freebob that also disables the censor.

I have been using Quaxi and it works well.