More Awesome Than You!

I have been considering re-purchasing OFB for awhile now. With the Pets EP on the horizon it seems I should get it again sooner rather than later.

So...should I? Has it been fixed properly so that it is playable?

Or should I just save my money?

Well, I think it's up to you, but between the patches and the fixes here it works swimmingly for me.  Or at least, not any worse than it was before OFB.

I can only give you my experience. So far...knocks on wood...not counting the adventurous downtown travelling baby, I have not had problems with OFB and i have it patched. BUT I also have not played the biz side of that expansions very much but when I do, I will incorporate some of Pes' special biz hacks/fixes.

I haven't regretted buying OFB. And I bought it/installed it very soon after it came into stores here.

I like it - and love the snapdragons!

Yeah, that was my thing, I don't have a large interest in running a lot business, but I had fun with the hair salon my sim was running out of her living room. Even if it gave her no time for herself. =p

You know. You can just ignore the business feature all together really. I haven't been setting up any bisnesses except for one little home made bakery that Brandi Broke and her family runs to survive. All the other businesses I have are the ones already in game and I don't really play them at all yet.

And if you want the special items, like the snap dragons or the toys and robots you can download them of sites like MTS2.

I've only played it a little bit, but OFB does add a bit more value than NL. Not as much as Uni, but in any case the game is horribly bug-ridden and unplayable without Pescado's hacks, and you know he supports the latest OFB + patch.

See, I feel Nightlife added far more than OFB. But then, I have absolutely no interest in running a business on a separate lot. I like some of the stuff that came with OFB and have been having some of my sims work on the craft badges, but for the most part, I don't want to deal with having to maintain a business.

To the original poster, it's up to you if you want to get it. IF you're a completist, you may want to get it, but if you're not interested in the business end, the rest is fluff, of sorts.

Oh, and I despise the OFB related LTW.

I'm a completist. So I got it. I bought it after the second patch came out: I was waiting for the patch and JM to make the game playable. I didn't install NL until the same had been accomplished. I imagine I'll do the same with Pets. (*wishes the name was Pawprints; that's so much better*)

Yeah, I am a completist too. Unfortunately, I always get stuff as soon as it comes out so I got bad taste in my mouth with OFB because I had to nuke my downloads for it. =p

Why would you need to *RE* purchase it? Never *REPURCHASE* anything. Don't you already *HAVE* it? What did you DO with it? If your cheap CD simply broke, just download a new one. Don't give more money to the Man. Remember: Clearly, BlueSoup has failed us! You must not!

I would definitely say that it adds a great deal of enjoyment to my game, espcially now that there are available mods and fixes.

I'm surprised to hear that Dizzy thinks that Uni was the best EP - I personally find Uni to be a waste of time - I hate growing up kids now because I feel obligated to send them to university and hate actually doing it - I find it is so monotonous.

What does Soup have to do with giving money to the Man?

If you're deciding on buying Pets, then getting OFB's a no-brainer since it adds things that are actually useful to your "human" sims.  Despite it being only 1 disc, it's got as much content as NL but unfortunately it's lacking in objects.  I actually had no interest in this expansion until I got it, but now I tend to use OFB's features every time I play.

Yes, why do you need to Re-purchase the game? What happened to the original?  ???

I think you would like it if not only for the fact that you can have a Pet Store. ::)

NL is my favorite expansion and added the most to my game in terms of gameplay.  I never played community lots before because of load times.  There wasn't anything to do, and the only reason was to buy food, clothes, and cellphones.  So I got hacks to avoid having to make those trips (and save the $50 grocery delivery dance).  But with NL, I actually have a reason to get my sims out of the house now and then.  Even in Uni, I am starting to enjoy sending my YAs out and doing stuff rather than just College Rampage/skip to final/rinse/repeat.  I also love the chemistry element in NL.  I wasn't sure I'd like OFB, since I wasn't really interested in running a business.  But it is kinda fun and gives a new side of the game.  Mostly I like the features such as being able to stash food away and being able to supplement income with a home business on the side.  But that's just my 3 cents.  ;)

Uni is the best EP from a technical perspective because it introduced the engine-ary features that are most essential, and render it infeasible to support many things under pre-Uni: For instance, multilevel pie menus are a Uni feature, and cannot be backported in any form to the Original. Detecting "original" installs generally requires an extra line or two of code to pick up the legacy-version-tagging.

Just like Hot Date was the best expansion for TS1 due to the fact that it introduced community lots and LTR?  I believe that the engine upgrades from University were included in the expansions after it even though you didn't need them.  Of course, you probably couldn't get the 2 extra wants and jobs without Uni though.

Nightlife was an appendix, it wasn't really needed due to the fact we already had Downtown lots.  It did add a "family style" implementation of HD's dining and an incredibly easy dating system though.

Because BlueSoup is MATY's official symbol of clear failure, and thus you must not imitate her. Clearly, BlueSoup has failed us! You must not!

I agree.  Sure, it's a retread of Hot Date but it's a damn good one.  Out of the 3 (4 if you count that which shall get you trashcanned) eps, it's the one I couldn't play without.  The inventory, neighborhood view, cars, being able to jump from one lot to another, being able to go downtown with groups, the loads of new social interactions, it's the best ep yet.  I feel like it's the glue that holds all three eps together and without it, I wouldn't enjoy playing either of the other two as much.  I can't say that about Uni or OfB because the novelty of both wear off quickly due to repetition.  However, I do recognize that University probably added more integral features to the game than any other ep so far.

I wouldn't call myself a completist, I pretty much will buy any ep that sounds like something I would like and also to add something new to my game.  The idea of OfB definitely appealed to me, the execution of the game was a bit of a let-down but I have enjoyed it.  I can't say I've ever had any game-stopping bugs with it and don't have the second patch installed because my game is fine and I'm worried the patch will mess it up but my interest in running my own business is directly correlated to how aesthetically pleasing the business is.  I played the game for hours on end last weekend after downloading a gorgeous boutique set from MTS2.

I would definitely recommend buying/installing it again, there are enough peripheral, non-business related features to make it worth at least 15 dollars and then you can justify the other 15 by not indulging in a frill for the week.  :-\

Well, I believe that if your substandard CD got trashed for some reason, you'd be justified in "downloading" a copy.  After all, you did pay for the game, so why pay for it again?  If that bothers you, go to EA's website and order a replacement.  You have to send them the damaged disk and pay a fee for the replacement, but it's less than buying the whole thing again.

Copyright laws would still make it illegal to download a copy even though you purchased one, due to the fact that you only bought the license for that disk.  It's also illegal to install more than 1 copy with said disk.  However, supposedly you can't get in trouble for piracy if you don't distribute the product but the most common protocol for this, BitTorrent, makes you share the file.  Then again, you've only heard of pirates getting busted for actually selling pirated copies so you're probably in the clear as long as the ESA doesn't decide to be like the RIAA/MPAA.

I'm wondering how many of those features are in OFB, but everyone's just been slient about getting them.  I know the Attraction system was transferred, but I'm not sure what else was.  If you have a decent computer, being able to see bordering lots makes it quite a bit more realistic than being in the middle of nowhere.

EDIT:Post 300!  It seems that I've got another set of ripped lips, but I'm not sure I actually needed them.  What's the next milestone, 1000?

(check the FAQ, MisterPaper) ::)

Do you mean the next set of ripped lips or the next title?  You get another pair ripped off at 600 (Lipless Loser), but you become a Horrible Halfwit at 350 posts.

Thanks Elfie. ;)  I had already done the hard part when I saw your post.  :P

I knew I wouldn't remember the number, so I took the easy route. That's why you're a Senator and I'm not.  ;D Well, that and your obvious awesomeness of course.

All senators are awesome! More power to the Senate!

*looks around at the blank stares and puts her soapbox away*

LOL, Elfie.  :D  Your check is in the mail. 

P.S.  I'm only a senator because some awesome people nominated and voted for me.  :)

Well, I certainly didn't vote for you.

Titles were in the FAQ?  Hmm, I tend to even forget we even had a FAQ for some reason.  600 seems so low for the next set of ripped lips.

Avalikia, you aren't a senator. Therefore you aren't allowed to vote. Silly.

No matter how bored I get with Uni, it is probably the most used EP for me.  Every Sim goes.  But NL added the most enjoyment.  OFB, I played the businesses in Veronaville(that is the town I was in when it was released)but I have to say that now that I am in Pleasantview, I haven't played it once.  I still like it and would never uninstall it.  But, it is my least used EP.  

Not in the poll, and it doesn't count, but that doesn't mean I can't vote.

I'm not sure if the point of OFB would be that everyone would have their own businesses, a few would own them and hires would be the slaves that worked endlessly for very little pay.  Then, if your sim got rich enough they could tell some poor sim to watch over the business while you call in to rake in the dough.  In addition, you can make slackers which don't go to work and just rent out their lot 24/7.

Pets would be more of an appendix than Nightlife, assuming that you didn't use those furries.  We no longer need the 30 additional lots that Unleashed brought, Nightlife and OFB allow an almost infinite amount of them.  Even with the base game you had a respectable amount of lots.

I saw a single neighborhood once (one without sub-hoods) that had over 1,000 lots on it.  I'd say that's a respectable amount.

I have been satisfied with every purchase--some more than others--I don't have the holiday pack and I regret it.  My least favorite purchase was the family Fun Pack--they really could of done better.  I suppose if I didn't have Uni and NL, it would of been worth more.  It would of been nice to have the attraction system,ect..  I didn't think that I would want to have a PET EP but it does look like it would be fun.  The EP's work together,I think you should have all of them--even if you don't use them.

I agree with Process Denied; I am satisfied with all my purchases. However I am a Sims/Maxis Whore, I buy every pack regardless.
So, I'll also be buying Glamour, Pets and the rumored "new" Holiday pack. ::)

GROANS, stop talking about all these stuff. Surely you don't want to get trashcanned?

this must be the only sims site in the world that forbid simmers to talk about PETS  :-\ ??? ::)

I thought that I'd only get trashcanned if I started a new thread about *it*.
I was guilty of this, but that was before the warning in the newsbox.
If that's not the case then I'm sorry. :'(

I think you're ok as long as you don't start a new thread, but contain it to the existing threads.  Remeber, though, Pets doesn't actually exist yet, as JM likes to remind us often.

Thanks for the clarification Rainbow. I really didn't want to get trashcanned, not when I'm so close to getting my first set of ripped lips. ;)

Aw, don't worry about it.  You have to do something really really stupid to get trashcans.  Or post a new pets thread, like Avie did.  Avie knew he'd get canned when he did it, though.  :P

Umm, yeah, I saw that one. I was a little confused as to why he would want to do that. Oh well, whatever rocks his boat I suppose. ???

Well, I did. I regretted doing this to one of my favorite people, but Rainbow didn't mind having to become a senator. :D

And I value your vote very much, Veilchen.  :)

Sorry rainbow..I underlined that particular section of your quote, so as Avalikia wouldn't misunderstand what I was trying to point out ;)

Because Pescado carries the biggest and pointiest stick of all.   :D

I think the question was why Avie would do that.

Are you trying to imply that I am not awesome?  That's absurd!  I'm insulted!  But you're probably right.

To clear up some confusion:

I gave my copy of OFB to a friend who lives out state. So I will never see it again, even if I begged and pleaded to borrow the disks to install and then mail them back to her. This was something that caused me to be poked with a sharp stick by JM, as uninstalling OFB fubared my neighborhoods and caused me to have to do a clean reinstall.

MOI ?!   ;D  Nah...I like messin' around..

Dang!!!  I used the "P" word--a million apology's--In my defense--it was quite late and my graphic's card is giving me Hell.  I wasn't thinking clearly.

Aha. Oh my, that was...not good. Most certainly that's a VBT. I wonder if there's another way for you to get the game back without having to shell out more cash.

At the time I didn't regret it, c'est la vie and all that.