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Anyone else try for kids with the grim reaper? Right now I just have a pair of twins and they are only babies...but how have your's turned out as in terms of their looks? My two darlings have ruby eyes, fair skin, and black hair. Not sure if tehy will be ugly little monsters though...I'll have to wait until they are toddlers to see what they look like.

The Grim Reaper doesn't have any genetics, so the offspring usually end up being clones of the "mother."

The Grim Reaper's kids will look like clones of the Hula girls, as that's what the Grim Reaper looks like underneath his get-up.  Are they girls?  So far, all the kids to the Grim Reaper I've heard of are girls (clone syndrome, ala Brandi Broke).  (Ignore Nervous Subject, he was definitely NOT spawned by the Grim Reaper!).

When my simmie had her twins by the Grim Reaper they were boys and were very good looking. They had black hair and Blue eyes, the mother had blond hair and green eyes. This was in a neighborhood long gone and I havn't tried the Grim Reaper pregnancy thingy since.

No one's a girl and one's a boy... Cassidy and Cody. So far as babies they look identical but are different sexes of course. I'll upload pictures once I get a chance to get them up to the toddler stage  ;D

Whatever you do, don't have kids with the Therapist!! They'll be FUGLY  ;D

Do they have moustaches and big huge glasses and wild hair??

They've got that hair, and the most monstrous eyebrows in the world. Unfortunately, the twins by the Therapist were in the Camelot neighborhood which was destroyed long ago, and no pictures remain.

Don't you mean fortunately?  ;)

/me goes off to the Testing Grounds to try having spawn by the Therapist.  ;)

LOL  Yeah, I made that mistake...once.  :D

Sounds like a good idea for someone doing the Uglacy challenge if they aren't strictly following the rules.

The Grim Reaper doesn't have any facial structure data, so any offspring produced with him will have the default face (i.e. the first in the list.)  For females, it happens to be quite similar, but not identical to Hula Zombie (Hula's face is a bit shorter and rounder.) He does seem to acquire a SimDNA entry somehow, but it seems to vary from game to game and neighborhood to neighborhood. The offspring's genetics (skin, hair and eye color) will be as expected for normal breeding, but the face will be the default.  The Therapist and Hula have complete facial structure and DNA information (fugly and attractive respectively) so breeding with them goes more normally.  The remote control car has a similar result to the Reaper.  Other "special" NPCs like the social bunnies are regular mutant townie sims under their costumes and have no special results when breeding.

(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7599/worthlesson0.gif)


Hehe.  :D

Well, as babies, the Therapist's twin boys looked pretty normal.

(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8922/snapshotf1271a8ad1dc0aa9am5.jpg)

But as toddlers, they looked very strange.

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2154/snapshotf1271a8ad1dc0b43ta3.jpg)

(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1763/snapshotf1271a8a31dc0b4fgx4.jpg)

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2825/snapshotf1271a8a31dc0b08ia6.jpg)

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3821/snapshotf1271a8a51dc0b21gd3.jpg)

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2933/snapshotf1271a8ab1dc0b32vb2.jpg)

As children:

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5193/snapshotf1271a8af1dc0c08ql2.jpg)

As teens:

(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/885/snapshotf1271a8ab1dc0c3cxz3.jpg)

As adults:

(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8412/snapshotf1271a8ad1dc0c9aic7.jpg)

And elders:

(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9371/snapshotf1271a8a11dc0d1ewm4.jpg)

Check out those profiles!

(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9820/snapshotf1271a8af1dc0d7ayq6.jpg)

And now, the child of the Grim Reaper:

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8591/snapshotf1271a8a91dc0df9wq5.jpg)

As an adult:

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/575/snapshotf1271a8a51dc0eaell6.jpg)

Close up:

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2243/snapshotf1271a8a71dc0ed7oz6.jpg)

Hehehe, thanks for the pics Rainbow.

Damn, but those Therapists spawn are ugly buggers!!

The Grim Reapers boy on the other hand is quite handsome.

 :o wow what a schnoz and those chins  :-\ I'm not going spawning there :P

The large-eyed Therapist spawn is what both of my twins looked like. They had pale skin and blond hair, but the same facial structure. NASTY!

And, yes, I meant unfortunately....I wanted to share pics. :P

Okay, how do you have children with the Grim Reaper?
Can you just summon him with Inges' Teleporter bush thingy, or do you use "testingcheatsenabled"?

You can do it with the Tombstone of L&D spawned with testing cheats, but I used the InSimenator.

All babies look the same except alien babies...Alien babies will show their nose and eyes...So its no surprise that the therapist babies looked like a normal baby.

The simplest way is to summon the Grim Reaper with the shrub while the game is paused (he'll usually leave instantly if you unpause because there's no dead Sims on the lot), and use the Tombstone of Life and Death to impregnate a Sim.  You can also get him on the lot by killing a Sim, and plead for their life when he comes if you don't want them to die.  I've gotten a knowledge Sim to fulfill that "Saved from Death" want and impregnated another Sim in one fell swoop before.

Okay, thanks for that.
Slightly off topic question; can I use the shrub/bush to summon the Pollination Technician so that my alien babies can know both sets of parents? Or is this a "Bad Thing (tm)"?
Oh, and another one, are all alien babies pollinated by the same technician? If so, is there any way to add other Polli Techs?

Point and laugh / poke with sticks as appropriate

I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure it would be a Bad Thing.  All sims in the default family are a little iffy to be messing with too much.  All babies are "pollinated" by the same guy, (in fact, if a male adult alien born in your game gets abducted, they'll give birth to their "brother/child").  They have more of them on MTS2, and apparently adding them will make the game pick at *cough*"random"*cough*.

I take it by this that you are implying that it's "sadorandom" (is that the correct term?).
Does anyone have any experiance with these mods? Or, do people just not have alien babies?

Let's just say I'm rather fed up with the sadorandom generator lately.  It's been doing unkind things to me.  >:(  I haven't tried that mod, but it looks like it wouldn't be too hazardous.  Of course, it hasn't been officially tested by the creater since NL came out, so you might want to check things out in a safe manner first.  I'm pretty sure it would still work fine though.  There's two sets:  Here (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=70256) and Here (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=71852)

Hmmm, very nice but I think I'll wait until someone creates one that is confirmed to work with OFBp2. Or confirms that these work with OFBp2.
I don't personally like testing things myself, as I've had bad things happen in the past.

Thanks anyway Avalikia.

Fwiffo is here, he posted in this thread earlier.  Perhaps he can answer those questions.

Though I've never used it, I do like the general idea of the hack.  I've known some people who replaced their PT with something else, like an elf for example.  That way instead of the males coming back impregnated by an alien, something else could have got them.  If you had more than one then you could make your poor sims get kidnapped by all sorts of things.  In fact, I could possibly use that in this little project I'm working on.

The Reaper has no genetic data, so the result will be treated as self-pollination. Notice the close resemblance the reaper-child has with the mother. Therapist child on the left doesn't look so bad, though. I mean, sure, he's UGLY, but his features aren't completely mutated to totally inhuman proportions.

But my Sim has blue eyes.  The GR child has flat brown eyes.  I use default eye color replacements, so I could tell right away that his eyes weren't my defaults.  I believe it used the brown eye color from the default skin, which it falls back on when there is no genetic data for eye color.  You said something about this once, Pescado, when you were talking about children of half-aliens not being able to have human skin and alien eyes.  I had this happen in Pleasantview.

EDIT:  Actually, my sim is not the mother of that child.  I had another sim on the lot that has brown eyes.  My sim gave birth to the Therapist babies.  The other sim had the Grim Reaper child.  But it still seems strange that the eyes are the flat Maxis brown and not the custom defaults.

Wow Rainbow you are a babe for showing all those pictures!!!  :o

The Grimmie's kids sure look adorable compared to *puke*

How do you get pregnant with the therapist? Damn those kids are fugly and ugly at the same time lol :D

I used InSimenator, although it's not the only way.  After spawning the reproductive mod (looks like a microwave), I chose "Have twins with neighbor."  Then in the box that came up, I chose the Therapist.  He never even needed to come onto the lot.  I did the same with the Grim Reaper.  Also using the reproductive mod, I chose Accelerate pregnancy, which causes each trimester to last one sim hour, so each hour he/she gets a "bump" and delivers in about three hours.  Then I use the temporal mod to age them up. 

Oh, my! That one with the big head and eyes is priceless. He would make a great Uglacy founder.

I've only had a grimpregnation once, in the aforementioned Camelot.

Mom had med.dark skin, black hair, brown eyes and no recessive genes (or rather, both genes were the same). Three babies: all lighter skin than mom. One had brown eyes; two blue. All three had brown hair. I assumed therefore that Grimmy had pale skin, brown hair and blue eyes (although why the blue eyes showed up on the kids, I don't know.) If Grimmy doesn't have DNA, then WTF happened?

I have been told this more than once, yet. . . .

Baby 1:
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/callahfc/Tribulations%20of%20Brynne/Nestor01.jpg)

(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/callahfc/Tribulations%20of%20Brynne/Nestor03.jpg)


Baby 2:
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/callahfc/Bliss/Bliss04.jpg)


Baby 3:
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/callahfc/Rancho%20Reggikko/RR84.jpg)


Baby 4:
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/callahfc/Firefly/Firefly03.jpg)

Baby 3 clearly has her mother's mouth.

It looks like some of your sims have custom skins. The baby in #3 looks shiny, while the baby in #4 looks kinda pale shiny like the woman in the background.

I still like Baby #1. He's a cutie.

Hrm...not in my game.  Siblings from the same family may look similar, but never identical.  And babies which share different genes are way different from each other. 

Perhaps you need either more diverse genes or better graphics to notice the differences?

Love your babies Hegelian, they're all cuties :)

:) :) :)
Ivy

I do know that babies can't have the same level of deformities as other ages of sims. Some of the Ugly-Legacy stories have shown this. A baby sim will look -mostly- normal and then the deformities will show up in the toddlers. Like the therapists kids. :)

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2825/snapshotf1271a8a31dc0b08ia6.jpg)


Hey baby, want to go for a ride?  :P

Why does it look like SimBrynne is about to punch Baby #1?
Bad Mommy!

Brynne gave birth to Sim Elmer Fudd.  :D

Well, that one sure isn't a Bayfield!  ;D

No, I think the father was Phedge, from the original thread Hegelian posted over at Laverwinklesims.

Pst, rainbow, that was a comment about it's genetics. ;) Silly rainbow. ;D

I knew that.  Silly Elfie.  I knew I should've put a winky smiley, but my smiley finger got tired.  :P

silly rainbow. :D

Baby #3 is by Reggikko and Hegelian; sim-Reggikko has a Helaene skin. The "woman in the background" for Baby #4 is Liegenschonheit, one of the baby's parents. Sim-Liegen has a customized Louis skin made to be even more pale than the original.

Baby #2 is by Ignorant Bliss and Twojeffs (sorry Jeff, but with the gross imbalance between men and women in the MATY neighborhood, all the guys in my game are straight  :P ). Here she is as a toddler:

EDIT:  Doh! Baby #2 is actually Anita Bliss's baby brother.   :P

(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/callahfc/Bliss/Bliss03.jpg)



I just happened to pause the bathing animation with her hand in that position.   :)

Wow. Maybe all sim babies AREN'T the same. Because your sim-babies look especially vacuous compared to the ones in my game.

Well, in my game the babies are born as babies.  ;D

And these are all offspring of MATY self-sims. . . .

Yes, but yours have huge blank-eyed stares, mine at least show the beginning of a respectable scowl.

Every parent is entitled to their delusions about their children.

Ahem:



Baby #2, Byron Bliss:
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/callahfc/Bliss/Bliss08.jpg)

(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/callahfc/Bliss/Bliss07.jpg)

Anita Bliss:
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/callahfc/Bliss/Bliss10.jpg)

(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/callahfc/Bliss/Bliss12.jpg)

(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/callahfc/Bliss/Bliss13.jpg)

 ;D

Geez, that last one looks like a huge blue spider is on her hand.  I think I'd be grossed out too!  :D

The children of Ignorant Bliss and ??? JM? Poor Ignorant Bliss.

What is that blue spider icky thing?

I think it's something from the Surgery Dummy Medical career reward.  But it does look strange that close up, doesn't it?

Oh, surgical dummy parts! Now that makes sense.

Yep, absolutely a gross-out.

Er, no. IgnorantBliss and Twojeffs.   :)

re: grimpregnation

JM may be right as far as DNA (skin, hair and eye color) goes, but for the facial structure, it's definately not self-pregnation.  The offspring always have the default face.  Same for the remote control car.

re: My pollination technician hack

I don't have NL or OfB, which is why I haven't done anything with it.  I did get a lot of posts that indicated that it did work with NL.  The major issue people reported was that the pollination technician did not show up in the family tree, but this seems to be a new feature in NightLife to make it so that alien babies can have relations without it being incest (which I think my hack solves in a better way).  Alien abduction is so rare though that I can't see why that's important unless you're cheating to get lots of aliens.  It's possible that my hack interferes with that feature though, as a few people have said that the family tree relation didn't get disrupted.

If somebody would like to take over maintenance of the hack, be my guest.  It's actually very simple - just a couple objects (clones of PT with new DNA and face data), and an override of one global BHAV.  It's not written that well because I didn't have a good reference for simantics at the time.

Speaking of my hacks - if anybody wants to take over my ultra-gnome (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=68996), be my guest.

Errr....the kids have a bad scrowl.

Hence my confusion. Sorry, TwoJeffs, I didn't mean to assume they weren't yours. It's much better this way, I'm sure.

I think that's just the expression on their faces, not the way they are made, unlike Sim Pescado's kids.

Well, yeah.

Byron in a better mood (and different hair):


(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/callahfc/Bliss/Bliss06.jpg)

Aww, he's cute!!! 

Byron's very cute in that pic. He has cute jammies, too.

Genetic data comes from somewhere, though, because my only reaper kid isn't a clone of his mother.  His mother's a CAS redhead with custom skin and eyes.  The kid shows her skin and eyecolour but has black hair and recessive genes for light blue eyes (that strangely he had as a baby) and the second skin tone.  But his facial structure is very similar to his mother's.

I think you're right diamonde.  The Grim Reaper does not have a SDNA entry in the neighborhood, but he DOES have an "Age Data" entry in objects.package which describes hair, skin and eye color and is the same sort of thing you'd find in a regular saved bodyshop template.  The same is true of Pollination Technician (no SDNA, but there is an Age Data entry in objects.package).  In fact, my poli-tech hack consists mostly of bodyshop templates with a few things added.  Obviously Polli Tech does pass on his genes just fine.  If you have "boolprop testingcheatsenabled true" in your userstartup.cheat, you can use the SimDNA cheat on Grim Reaper or Hula Zombie or any of the other special NPCs if they are on your lot.

You call that a scowl, Hegelian? Those just look petulant. Mine, on the other hand, look ANGRY. So angry that Queen from the old #rentech channel nicknamed it "Angry Baby". I sold an angry baby clone to Reggikko...ask Reggikko about my angry babies.